'Should you trust the statements of Travis McMichael?' Ahmaud Arbery case prosecutor rebuttal

should you trust the statements of travis mcmichael now let's go ahead and first take a look at this he told you he's not going to chase or investigate someone who is armed and yet all he talked about was well he kept reaching in his pants he came into his pocket well did you think he was armed or not then what did he tell you this is what i was thinking mr aubrey may have run by maybe matt had seen him maybe yeah it's broken in maybe larry english is over at 2 20. i don't know maybe a mod aubry was caught maybe ahmad arbor is running from the police these are all maybes he doesn't know anything these are all the maybes he testified to he said he assumed he was committing a crime that's what he said understand remember i wrote it out you said you assumed he was committing a crime i went down there to see if it was him then he said i don't know i don't know what he did that day i don't know then he wanted to talk about his totality the circumstances and all that stuff that he knew that was going to allow him to do the citizens arrest what do you talk about well i've heard from my mom about the stuff stolen off the boat okay well can't arrest somebody on the unsupported gossip of someone else can't do that and then you know i saw him inside the house and i knew he was in there in a couple other days because i'd seen video on february you know on february you saw these videos okay well that's not having committed a crime in his immediate presence this is somebody showing you some stuff later and then you knew about the white couple oh yeah i knew there were other suspects for stealing the stuff and other suspects who had gone in the house the white couple okay and then he also said well yeah and then there was the shady looking guy under the bridge he was also kind of a suspect he said i want to talk to you i want to talk to you what happened down the road i was ordering him to stop what gives you the right to order a mod artery to stop [Applause] my impression was that he could be a threat because who knows what can happen oh my god self-defense you have to think you're in imminent danger of receiving serious bodily harm or death it's immediately happening i'm about to die my impression was that he couldn't be a threat yeah who knows what could happen who doesn't stand all right so what else do we got if greg called 9-1-1 he still would have been on the phone with 9-1-1 we know that that's how 9-1-1 works they stay on the phone with you he knew he wasn't on the phone with 9-1-1 he told you he didn't know what his father was saying to ahmad really do you does anybody believe that that he's in the car with his dad but he has no idea what it was that his father was actually saying to ahmad as well as what he was saying now what did he talk about he talked about that like continuum of the use of force and blah blah blah level two is commands okay i'm sorry how do police officers command people to do stuff how do they usually do that because police officers i mean are they yelling at you or are they politely saying stuff to you and they're commanding you do things do you believe for a minute he was talking softly to a moderate what's going on what are you doing please stop for me do you really believe that for one minute i'm going to ask you another question do you think this travis mcmichael who took the stand was the same travis mcmichael from february 23rd you think they're the same person or you think this is trial preparation what tone of voice do we have being used by the mcmichaels hello 911 uh i'm not here to kill the shores there's a black male running down the street to tell where where where at centaur shores i don't know what street we're all about [Music] sir hello ask yourself was that the tone of voice being used well yes we know it was he just said stop god damn it stop to mr arbory in that tone of voice hi use of force continuum presence did not have no badge no uniform no authority just some strange guys in a white pickup truck strangers verbal commands they don't have any authority to use verbal commands this is a fellow citizen this is another human being they're pulling up on him and they're commanding that he stop and talk to them and then of course he skipped level three level four level five and went right to deadly force boom someone's dead claims he didn't cut off a mod on burford did not get out with his shotgun i don't know you believe any of that told the police he got out of his car in holmes a few houses down and yelled at a mod to stop now he says that didn't happen and as convenient excuses i was really confused what do you say the coast guard goals were to not escalate to but to keep everyone calm and cool you don't want anything to escalate but then he tells you oh but you pull out a shotgun and point it at somebody to de-escalate a situation what are you talking about does this logic make any sense to anybody travis mcmichael never said the police i was making an arrest i was trying to arrest him for the crime of this wouldn't that be really really important hey i was trying to effectuate a citizen's arrest for this crime that i know he committed wouldn't that be something you tell the police never once never told mr armory he was under arrest never said i saw him commit the crime of blank today because he didn't he was sitting on his sofa never said i was afraid he was going to hurt my dad or pull him down never even mention being afraid for his dad not once anything about the english's boat or anything being stolen from 220. never mentioned it never talked about it two hour and 45 minute interview doesn't talk about any of this stuff assume the worst here's what he did so he stopped and i said hey just want to talk to you you know where where are you running from where are you going this is what he says he said he's asking ahmad about what he was doing that day that day because he didn't know what he'd done that day but he assumed the worst he must have committed some crime what's your emergency there's a black man running down the street what did agent seacrest tell you gbi agent i can't compel anyone to speak to me they knew better just like agent seacrest knows i can't compel anybody to talk to me

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Length: 8min 13sec (493 seconds)

Published: Tue Nov 23 2021