Should David Icke be judged for his Wogan appearance?

and indeed one of the most requested guests and one of the guests that some of you love to hate but some of you love to love is David Icke now the newspapers and I always say this at the beginning of podcast that we've done together and Lena David's listening to this on the Isle of Wight we're about to speak to him he's not gonna mind but the newspapers used to call David Icke of the potty prophet he was the man that the media loved to have a laugh at if he was wearing purple shell suits or whatever there'd be a photograph there if if somebody had claimed or he'd claimed that he was the son of Jesus that would make a headline and I think it did once he can confirm that but something's happened over the last I would say 10 maybe 15 years with David more and more people are starting to take David seriously and David's message has not really wavered by a quaver he's been there in a constant for pretty much quarter of a century or more I'm doing an awful lot of talking now and I want to get into this conversation with David Icke David thank you very much for coming on what did you make of anything I said there before of course because after 30 years you do but yeah I mean things things have changed and and I think one of the main things that has changed is that people are actually looking at what I'm saying rather than just getting their perception of me from one-liners in in the newspapers and you know people do themselves a great disservice and they they basically disrespect themselves if they make judgments about people and situations without actually checking it out and I was talking to a journalist this week who was interviewing me for a national newspaper a freelance and he'd pitched the story to another newspaper and the commissioning editor had said we're not having him in the paper he's mentally ill and of course what that guy sitting in his little bubble knew about me was only what he'd heard in the same industry or from the same industry that he works in so he's just had the same mantra for decades and he's believed it and what people are seeing now when they actually take the the trouble to see what what I'm saying and how I'm saying it and the evidence in the books that I have to support it he's hold on a minute this is making more sense than what I saw the world before so this this is this is the the process that's happening and you know we've talked a couple of times Howard since I started a world speaking tour in this summer of 2016 it's continuing now I'm going to Dublin next week or next Friday and then all across Europe and then across the UK before December and I've never seen anything like it all over the world literally Australia Europe the Balkans Scandinavia America Canada people are starting to look at concepts and information and possibilities that they would have weighed away with a wave of the hand but it's not a completely open door though is it one of the last times that we talked you were having trouble getting into Australia they were not going to let you in clearly that problem resolved itself but they had issues with you well a number of people have issues with me and in authority and and so here's a question Howard that these people are Ike's and Nutter should actually ask themselves why would authoritative a an apparent nutter who's talking nonsense from speaking in their country or entering their country why would they and by the way you know you we're talking here about the response to me by the media over the decades in in Britain but when I go to places for instance like Serbia or Slovakia or other countries in the Balkans and into your I'm interviewed on on their mainstream programs I was in Belgrade being interviewed for 25 minutes seriously about world events on their main to main breakfast listen I know this for a fact and I see some of these videos on YouTube the problem that you've got here and perhaps other alright for something about you know a program called the unexplained this is a very very important point I don't have a problem I am putting out information that people will not hear in the mainstream um I don't have a problem because I don't care how people receive it I care about the fact that it's circulating so if people have a problem with me I say to them well you might you've actually described it perfectly you have a problem with me I have no problem alright let's park the word problem and let's see the issue that maybe you have here and just hear me out at this point is that you have a back catalogue you have a history here people go back to that interview with Terry Wogan that you did the one that you did 20 years later was very different we have to say but they go back to that if they go back to you wearing shell suits they go back to headlines saying and I think you know I haven't got it with me right now but wasn't there some claim that somebody around you or you had said that you were visa nor a son of God or something like that and and all of that stuff of course pollutes the way that you're seen now when you go to places where they don't have that background with you of course in this day and age where people have more sources coming in to them and they might be a little more open-minded you're gonna get more of a hearing I would have thought and people can access that stuff but this is the question at that time you're talking about which it was a period of three months in sixty six years of my life I was going through a massive transformation it was like spending your life in a bubble a bubble of perception a bubble of possible a bubble of information and it's a big backstory to it how it came about and then someone burst the bubble and for three months I'm trying to I'm trying to to cope and process this information that that's hitting me from all angles on multiple levels is so long story it's a simple story that's a long story I'm and and so are people going to live and again this is not my problem it's theirs are they going to live their entire life in a time warp are they are they going to judge someone sixty six years from three months well if they are they have a problem I don't have a problem with it at all cuz I don't care but they have a problem because if their perception is that you judge a person for what happened thirty years ago for three months against sixty six years and all that I've said since and written census being proved to be true then what the heck else are they perceiving in the world about world events about people about everything that is coming from the same myopia and therefore how can they possibly from that way of perceiving the world and understand anything they can't and and you know that what is happening now is that people's perceptions of everything or being molded because from perception comes all human behavior and human perception comes from information received so if you can control the information that people receive you dictate their perceptions and therefore you dictate their behavior and what we're seeing now is this incessant censorship in all areas not least through the internet Giants in the devil's playground Silicon Valley but he's dictating what people see in here and thus what they perceive but how they me people would control him David I'm trying to break that and I I told me understand what you're saying you know that you and I have spoken many times before so I know what page you're on and you know we've been here before but the fact of the matter is that people are going and your shows your speaking engagements are pretty much a lot of the time sold out maybe all of the time sold out David so you can't say that people are controlled to that extent because they're coming to see you if they were totally controlled they wouldn't be coming to see you oh it's about numbers mate if if you could see the difference it makes in the way people start and start to see the world in a different way in a more expanded way and when they have access to this information compared with when they don't the more that this information circulates it says this is basically what's happened to me as the information as as circulated as best I can nothing like it circulates when it goes through the mainstream and the more people have changed their perception of me and changed their perception of the world and if we had a a mainstream media that would allow all information and perceptions and if you like our ways of looking at the world to be circulated then the world would be a very different place but you know it's a very very narrow band of possibility what I call the postage stamp consensus that the mainstream media overwhelmingly pour out and pound out to the world as news and information every day and the vast majority of people don't get access to this other information you look at you look at the education system that's the postage stamp consensus version of the world that's given to children from the earliest age throughout their formative years and if they don't repeat back what they've been told to believe in their exams they don't pass well we're gonna have some standards though David come on now you know you've got it I mean did you get your a-levels did you have you took a levels didn't you David I I never you do okay I shall research that that then you've actually by accident introduced a very interesting point a very important point I left school at 15 you could in those days to to go and play professional football I never took let alone passed a major exam apart from an end-of-year class exam in my life I did all my learning in my time on my watch on my terms I've now written something like 25 books I talked for 10 hours all day with no script and and I would have been considered at 15 an educational failure this this idea that you have to pass exams to to to to give a measure of your intelligence is absolute nonsense it's not I know everybody I mean I remember now of course you left school at 15 and you've achieved a massive amount of CAHSEE I mean in sport as a mainstream sports correspondent on the telly and all the great things that you did and all of this that you've done in the last 25 years whatever but the fact of the matter is that not everybody is gonna be as motivated as a David Icke so when you say that kids shouldn't be as trans in educating we had this debate on the last podcast we did but when you say kids shouldn't be as tramline by the education system as they are a lot of kids just don't have the motivation that some have I had it because I wanted to do this you had it because he wanted to do all the great things that you've done but you know we are a minority you've got to have some control haven't you so the next question that comes from that if what you say is true is why are there so many what you call unmotivated young people in the world why I mean I'll tell you one reason why the education system as it currently operates and as it's currently delivers its information is deeply deeply boring to most kids it doesn't inspire them and and when they leave school they are and all or wherever they leave their education they are so sick of being bored day after day and they therefore equate being bored with being educated and learning and they just stopped doing it for the rest of their lives and when really there's a vast vast amazing world beyond the myopic bounds of the postage-stamp consensus version of everything the mainstream everything to be explored and and we should be inspiring kids not boring them to death what are we doing for instance algebra right if you wanna if you want to learn how to read algebra then learn algebra when you need to learn algebra you've got kids who are sitting at desks look at this summer on on incredibly hot lovely days when they could be climbing trees when they could be pursuing their own interests and what are they doing they're sitting at a desk learning algebra what does X equal I don't care less you make it equal what you like whatever makes it happy but just leave me alone but my maths teachers website loads and detested algebra but my math teacher would have said to me the point of algebra is not doing those stupid sums with letters and numbers which you know a lot of people still have to do it's to teach you methodical thought if we are not educating kids in that way how are they going to thought I tell you the thought processes that are not taught critical thought critical thinking questioning everything to see if it stands up to scrutiny instead of accepting it and and and not questioning it because it's come for more authority because it's come from some academic with letters after his name because it's some come from some scientists to a little way down the road will be proved to be mistaken and it's critical thinking that we need once people question things once young people are are encouraged to question things they go through their life questioning things therefore when a politician says something instead of accepting it they question it what a scientist says something given the history that scientists have been saying things for for hundreds of years that have turned out to not to be true they question it this is what we need a critically thinking questioning population what any system of control doesn't want it's a critically thinking questioning population and what we what we have now Howard and it is it is coming in so fast every day is critical thinking and having alternatives opinions and questioning what authority tells you becoming more and more suppressed and oppressed and people being intimidated into not doing it alright let's target because we've got to take some commercials right now David so we're gonna plug in and when we've done the podcast we can run right through we're gonna take some commercials right now and I think we need a couple of minutes anyway just to refine our thoughts about that but the one thing and I'm talking my listener here now that David Icke lovers and David Icke haters can agree on I think is that the man we've got on here now is a man who made a lot of people start to question and put stuff out into the mainstream or the peripheries of the mainstream that while you may be outraged by it and not agree with it it made you think isn't that a good thing I'm not here saying it is because it's not my job to say it is or it's not I'm asking you to ask that question David Icke will be back so will I in just a second here on the unexplained to talk radio the unexplained to talk radio David Icke is in the middle of a big speaking tour it's Dublin next week but it's always somewhere else whether it's Australia they love him in the United States lots of fans there and of course here where he packs out theatres and venues up and down the country we talk David about this this idea of free speech do you agree with me that there are some ideas and notions the don't deserve the oxygen of free speech if you look for example at and I'm sure you know him and I'm not sure what you make of him he's been on this show a long time ago and all he did was shout at me but Alex Jones the so-called conspiracy theory broadcaster has made a string of outrageous and understand the substantiated claims that have brought him into conflict with an awful lot of people now and some aspects of the electronic media the modern media the social media are in the process of partly closing him down now for for some of those things um you know you understood agree with me that there are some notions and ideas that are perhaps beyond the pale I mean I'm not here sitting here saying that Alex Jones should be turned off that's a matter for other people you know he's he's doing his job and people are listening to him that's not what I'm saying but there are some ideas perhaps that don't deserve to be her then here you are saying free speech total free speech no I don't agree that anything shouldn't be heard if if you for instance have a situation where you are urging people to burn a house down or you're urging people to do something to do with terrorism there are laws against that there are laws against that incitement there are laws against inciting violence my point is this once you start censoring what people can say before the point of delivery you are by definition giving an authority the power to say what people can and cannot hear and if people have a problem with someone saying something then argue your point put out information to show that they're talking nonsense but once you start saying this is not acceptable therefore we're going to stop anyone hearing it that is a tyranny that is what the Nazis did when they burn the books what we have now is digital but burning through people like Google and Facebook I'm any tyranny that comes to power be it be it far left far right or far anything I'm immediately it has the power to do so once to close down all information that challenges its narrative all information that exposes the truth about what it's doing and what's behind it and therefore if we're going to have a free society and we going to talk about free speech then we have free speech because if anyone doesn't have free speech no one has it because what is left is only the freedom to conform not the freedom to speak your truth and any sane and also mature society should be at peace with having people say what they think whatever it is then arguing against it and of course having laws that say you cannot incite violence with your speech without consequence you cannot do this attack on this person with your speech to do them to encourage people to do them harm without consequence but once you start censoring speech before the point of delivery then you are going down a very dark road and what we're seeing how it now is what happens when you do that because you first of all say you cannot incite violence therefore we going to stop you doing that by by preventing you you're what you say circulating okay people then say well well in very large numbers say well that's fair enough yeah you yeah that's alright yeah but that's only the thin end of the wedge we've started now and then oh no you can't say that and then you can't say that and then you can't say that and we've now reached a point in this process which is always the process just read read the UM the the methodology of Joseph Goebbels the the Nazi propaganda minister and you'll see that what's playing out now is actually exactly the techniques that he advocated and pursued in Nazi Germany so we've reached the point now where you can't say this about this gender you can't say this about this group you can't say this about this can't say this about that and what's happening is they're being picked off and picked off and picked off which is exactly again the process described in 1984 by George Orwell but then the norms of society constantly change what is acceptable things that were said on things that were said on comic comedy shows let me finish the point and then we'll we'll get there but things that were said on comedy shows in the 1970s which I saw I was watching with my parents you quite rightly could not utter these days why because we're more enlightened we are constantly moving forward and you can't just have everything out there because you have a less enlightened society and hopefully we are becoming better I mean you know if you look back to the the Dark Ages in this country if you stole a loaf of bread they'd probably hang you we're a bit more enlightened than that these days you know things constantly change don't they we're talking about freedom of speech and freedom of expression we're not talking about you know putting someone in jail for stealing a loaf and if people don't want to hear it then they won't then the whole thing will die out anyway because no one will be interested and if it's nonsense then people can come along in the public arena and show with evidence and information that it's nonsense well III again once you cross this line of censorship before the point of delivery you are going down a very very dark dark road and we are going down that road now very very fast where there's less and less and less and less that you can actually say without a it doesn't circulate because the algorithms stopped it or the ghosts banning on the internet which I'm subject to where you can actually post it but their algorithms make sure it doesn't go anywhere you're going down this road of handing power over the information that people receive or don't receive to some Authority and that authorities getting smaller all the time but the beginning of this that there have to be some rules there are some things that you would consider to be beyond the pale and of course everybody would consider the car to pale so somebody has to make the rules ah the point live so in other words he's gonna put anything out there and it can subsequently somebody can take a look at it and adjudicate about it but it's got to get out there first that can't always work can it even I mean some stuff should not be seen quite rightly it's got to get out there first otherwise there's an authority be Saudia and what doesn't and that authority will do exactly what it's doing now which is pick off and pick off more and more things that we can't say and we can't see and we can't hear and that road leads to only one place tyranny because that's what tyrannies do that's the process they do and we know people need to be mature enough to accept that people will have opinions that they won't like and won't agree with and instead of censoring them they should argue their case and put out information to show that what's being said is not true people who are confident of their case don't want to censor anyone be cut with another view because they're confident of their case look at what's being thrown at me and the abuse and the lies that have been told about me in the last 30 years by the mainstream media and I'm the one saying they should not be censored from doing so because of this very clear point once you censor before the point of delivery you are putting power over what people see in here into the hands of an authority which will always and always as history shows abuse it I understand what you're saying but what happens if a point is put out there and you say it should be put out there and then countered with reasoned argument what happens if the other side you know forces in this world are very seldom perfectly balanced what happens if the other side the side perhaps putting the correct view or a different view review that might change that view that's just been put out the new said shouldn't be sent what happens if that side is not as strong doesn't have the same outlets the same money the same power what happens if if they they don't have that strength that you would want the counter-arguments to put somebody's got to do somebody's got to step in and balance things haven't they where's the balance now the official narrative is pounded what what the what officialdom what people might call the establishment whatever want people to believe he's pounded out on the mainstream media 24/7 where's the balance now now um why in Nazi Germany could that that evil grasp the minds of an entire nation not necessarily every last person but but massively an entire nation that led to the catastrophe that followed because other voices giving another fix another angle another version of what the Nazis were doing and why could not be heard why it was being censored before the point of delivery and and you know people can can argue against this as much as they'd like but don't tell me you believe in freedom of speech in its true sense if you believe that anything should be censored before the point of delivery do you feel that you are a man at the moment as we speak in 2018 when it seems to me that you've got more followers than that you've had more supporters the supporter support and interest oh I knew that were to be a problem that's so excise that women just say more support then you were multiple but you sound like a man who feels as if he's not under threat but you it sounds to me as if you're you're concerned you're concerned that somebody out there is trying to close you down oh no I'm concerned that everyone with another version of reality in whatever way shape or form is being closed down and this is not paranoia this is this is fat look you know this whole thing with Alex Jones was not about Alex Jones it's not about whether you love Alex Jones or whether you loathe him or whether you like me or or whatever it's about the freedom of expression and and if Alex Jones is talking nonsense in these areas then show him to be doing so with evidence with argument with debate but any which of course people did over the Sandy Hook massacre and and people tend not to say the things that you're saying I just I just want to one I'll prove him wrong then but why not what I'm going here where I'm going here is you've just said about there must be some balance and I made the point that there is no balance now you've got the mainstream media that it pounds out I mean there's another quote from Goebbels that said words to the effect of the idea with the media is to make it ostensibly seem to be varied while actually it's all the same and that's exactly what's going on now and and if if therefore you're looking at Alex Jones yes he has a biggish following but biggish when compared with what he's doing compared with the mainstream media his following is tiny therefore where's the balance there and what they're doing now is not creating balance okay well here this version of world events and to balance out what the mainstream media is telling you every day it's shutting down that alternative way of looking at the world and not everything not everything Alex Jones nothing like everything Alex Jones has said over the years has been nonsense you know I mean you know some of us have been talking about the fact that this whole Middle East series of regime changes was long planned before even the Iraq war it wasn't a real it wasn't a war it was a turkey shoot the Iraq invasion happened in 2003 now the evidence has come out to show that that is true but where is anyone in the mainstream saying actually these these people we call crazy they were right you know this is story well I suspect some of them would sir so I simply disagree with what you just said listen you talked a lot every time we spoke there were the bubbles they Lehman I mean they've got they've got no radar of anything all right but every time you smoking he's talked about a thing called the totalitarian two-step now I just want to say tiptoe sorry to step where do I get to step from the totalitarian tip time use all the times the totalitarian tiptoe and before we get to that though you've made a lot of references to Nazi Germany and Goebbels and all the rest eyes you know you don't honestly think that here in the West what we call the West we are heading towards something like Nazi Germany we are being controlled in that way is that what you think well of course that's where its leading that's what I've been writing about for nearly 30 years that the plan is to and has been so we rode any road any road freedom not least freedom of speech and to centralize and centralize and centralize power and decision-making to the point where we basically have a global version of Nazi Germany that's where it's meant meant to conclude and this is why the the propaganda techniques of Goebbels can be shown again and again and again to be the very basis of what is happening now in terms of the deletion of human freedom you know I could if if I was alive which I wasn't in the time of and I was German and living in the the time of Nazi Germany if I'd stood in the street and said I think Hitler is wrong and I hate the man somebody would have put a bullet through my head if I want to stand up and say I think the government's completely wrong they've got it wrong over everything that's my right so yeah that's not where we're at is it oh well you've just confused Howard where we're at now with what I said about where it was planned to go and this a totalitarian tiptoe the totalitarian tiptoe is a name I gave to a technique which is blatantly happening all the time whereby you're aiming to go to Z and you're at a and you know if you go from A to Z in massive leaps then the change in society will be so big that people might look up from the gameshow and and the sport and say hold on a minute what's happening so you go in as bigger step is shoot steps as you can but not so big that you will learn eat too many people to the fact that there's a pattern here people like me have spent the last thirty years studying and observing the pattern and that pattern has been to erode and erode in erode and erode more and more freedoms not least freedom of expression and freedom of opinion and the circulation of alternative information to the point where there is no alternative information circulating only what the official narratives are which is exactly what happened in Nazi Germany when they shut down everyone who wasn't parroting the Nazi line and that's where it's heading and you throw artificial intelligence in there with their plan as they are now openly speaking about of connecting the human mind to artificial intelligence and you see what the end game is it's the end if you go down that AI road of the human mind itself that's not supposed to be and I'm supposed to be Caliban one quick question before we have to get to more ads otherwise we're supposed to be it's not I mean believe me we have questioned that many terms including a lot of static on this show and we will continue to because you know those there are many and we can agree on that there are many unanswered questions about the use of AI many things have to be determined if we were marching towards or tiptoeing towards totalitarianism and a great big global super state or whatever it might be we voted for brexit well supposedly in the process of doing it and if there was no freedom or not as much freedom as there should be then we wouldn't have been free to do what we've done would we Oh blimey I'm a much time have you got because because I'll tell you this story right what why do we have bricks we had brexit because a whole area of a British society you might call it the urban working class has been ignored and abused by the political class in all its party affiliations left right and center for decades and decades and decades it didn't matter who you voted for the same things were happening and there's a reason for that that I can go into on another day and therefore this brexit vote which was a in out yes/no which didn't have to go through a political party was the perfect opportunity for that ignored abused a great area of the British population to have its voice heard but if he was so mind controlled vu they want they want more government would not know hold on a second I don't just you know I'm just putting it out there right that referendum was never meant to happen it was offered by Cameron to offset the the growth of UK and he thought that when he came to the next election he would be in another coalition with the Liberal Democrats who would block it and he'd say I won't I wanted a referendum really but the Liberal Democrats won't go into a government if we do that unfortunately for him ironically he did win outright and therefore was forced to have the referendum and and the vote went absolutely against the political class and they were shocked because they thought that no one would ever turn against them because all you have to do is frighten the unwashed masses to death with Godzilla will attack London the day after the Brits the public were afraid to do what they did I mean we can debate this round around it sounds like all there's a next stage this so yes because of a series of events they didn't expect to happen there was the opportunity of the brexit vote and within the first hour of that brexit result being announced I was sitting here in the same chair I wrote on the Internet this is just the start because their political class and the European dark suits who've never seen a ballot box in their life are not going to let this go quietly or easily and now we're seeing this coalition between the political class in Britain that don't want us to leave the European Union despite the referendum and the dark suit class in Brussels that wants the same outcome who are making it more and more and more difficult and now with wait we're coming to exactly what I said would happen the pressure for a second referendum to overturn it so um you know this whole European Union is something that goes back at least to the 1920s it goes back to the Warburg banking family it goes back to the the the aristocracy families of Europe like Otto von Habsburg this whole idea of creating a European centralised dictatorship to dictate from a central point to the entirety of your or indeed creating something and we don't have time we did we did go into this on the podcast but you know I it's my fault for starting it but you're all I can say is that you know looked at another way there are those who would say that it stopped us from having more conflict it's helped us to see the other person's point of view and it's oiled the wheels of trade two ways to look at everything you're hearing the views of David Icke you've got to take that break now you're on talk radio the unexplained with Howard Hughes back in a sec David Icke has a book out at the moment and he also is going on a big speaking to Dublin next week like we said and virtually everywhere else but I'll give you the address of david's website at the back end of this we won't trouble ourselves with that now so David you've been very good and said that you're going to try and tackle some of these questions that I've had in now look when I ask for questions on Twitter before we started doing this recording this obviously we got quite a lot of stuff like one saying was the Oise mister spoon in the suit dragon based on true events and is the moon really made of cheese which is one is david icke med is another one so you get and like I was saying at the top of this idiots man brain cells to rub together and they have absolutely no self-respect like they were thinking they would they would think that they have a sense of humor I think a lot of people would disagree with that freedom freedom of speech there's there's you freedom of speech for you and their right to say it but there any hold on war okay that's you know you said that and that's that's fine but what I'm illustrating here if I done that if we'd had Twitter if we add Facebook if we'd had social media for good bad or indifferent twenty years ago and we were able to do that and ask for questions then we'd have got a lot more frivolous questions like are you mad then we got tonight two-thirds of the questions actually make a lot of sense and let's get into them let's start here then do you think David still the global warming is a hoax as the sea ice disappears in the Arctic and billions of gallons of melted ice pour off Greenland along with the melting permafrost all over Siberia and Alaska releasing methane says Michael he has a point doesn't he well the answer that question is yes I do but to respond to it in any credible way would take a long long time but there's a there's a book just come out which I've been reading recently basically it's called the politically incorrect guide to global warming or climate change I do recommend that people read that because with enormous detail it takes the whole thing apart but yes I do I do believe that absolutely okay and despite the fact that we've had research released in this last week saying that temperatures are going to we've had a little bit of a blip but temperatures are going to inexorably rise in the in the coming years we're going hot Howard Howard in the 1970s they were saying we were going into a global cooling and we we've had scandal after scandal of revelations of the climate data being manipulated we've had clutter climate models which basic what's what's a computer model you put crap in you get crap out right so we've had it over and over and over and over my scientific friends would call that research Derek asked if you died information in you don't get an accurate outcome out and they've been proved wrong and again and again and again with what's happened since the turn of the of the millennium what they said was happened not nothing it's not happened to terms of temperature I hear you say even in the light as a massively hot summer with temperatures up to 38 degrees in the Southeast of England and potentially more hot weather to come but let's park so what happened in 1976 when we had that fantastic summer and they're still talking about global cooling what was about in 1959 when we had a fantastically hot summer you know the temperatures were hotter during the Medieval Warm Period about a thousand very years ago what I mean what caused that turbocharged handcarts I mean do the research that's what I say to people this is the whole thing about what we were talking earlier Howard let's put into the public arena and what the scientists the the mainstream scientists say the song sheet scientists as I call them and let's put into the public arena what increasing numbers of other scientists are saying which actually doesn't make sense and then people can make their own mind up but when you have people like the BBC saying some years ago the science is now settled so we're not going to have people on questioning it anymore then then you you are going down a very this dark road here people on questioning it I've had somebody on here only very recently questioned but we have to say that there are more people accepting what scientists around the world are saying there is a famous scientist in Texas if I had on the show talks about the weirding of our weather increasingly you know there are more of those people than people putting the other V but let's go to something else there are people and you must know that how do you know that when these other scientists don't get the ability to have their voices heard well they have access to all the same platforms that you have access to don't think they don't have access to the mainstream media where most people get their information from they don't okay let's move to something else it's not a people so you've interviewed someone but but I mean you're not that the BBC 10 o'clock news are you you're not news night it's these were really mainstream and I'm very pleased were not I wear that as a badge of honor David Icke let's let's move on to something else because I've got loads of questions here and I want to get to you know a measure of them Derek asks and one of the problems is that when you go into the fields that you've been into over the years people think that you are a repository of knowledge about all things but I'm gonna ask it anyway cuz it's a question that's worth asking whatever Derek asks can you ask David Icke what was the Great Pyramid of Giza true purpose now you know there's a lot of talk about that there's been a lot of research recently they discovered a new bit of it a new chamber of it it may be some kind of power generator they don't quite know but they're trying to find out have you ever had any thoughts about that quite a few people over the years who turned a lot of research into that hold Giza pyramid and what it was really there for I've been inside it the idea that it's it was built as a burial chamber is ludicrous to go to those lens for a burial chamber for one fair I mean just crazy but what I found interesting recently is that there was some scientific study came out pointing out the extraordinary electromagnetic properties inside the pyramid particularly because of the way it's structured inside and this would absolutely fit with what a number of people I've spoken to over the years who've really gone into this in great detail they believed it was some kind of power generator some kind of if you like transformer that could take atmospheric energy from the electromagnetic field of the planet and turned it in turn it into some kind of usable usable power a giant platter is what they've been saying we said that that's something like that and more is what I would go down because you see this is the point about history is that people believe that because this is what what's pounded out all the time is that the human race in its knowledge has only ever gone forward it's never been at a high level and then fallen from that level and I say to people today and if something happened if there was some catastrophe happened that meant we no longer had electricity or oil um what kind of society will we live in very very very quickly nothing like the one we live in now and it's very clear when you do study history that there have been periods when there's been very great knowledge and that knowledge has then been lost and therefore you know in some of these ancient societies where they built structures that we would struggle to build today you know and scientists and historians and all these people look at them and say how did they do that how did they move these stones over hundreds of tons and all the rest of it I saw a place in just above Cuzco Costco in Peru it's a very famous place sexy woman that is one way they pronounce it and there are these enormous absolutely enormous stones that are fitted together like a dry stone wall you cannot you can get a cigarette paper between them it's incredible how does these do that without the kind of technology that we have now and in fact a lot of the technology we have now is not capable of doing those things I mean you and I can agree on this that we have a lot to learn for the future history shows that knowledge is lost as well as gain but you know we're a bit more broad-minded these days and we're beginning to relearn some of this stuff I think and I hope from what I see Claire asks this and this is you must have thought about this I've when we asked you about this in the park because you've said a lot of things some of which could potentially have brought you lawsuits but they didn't but they brought you enemies Claire wants to know are you ever surprised that you haven't been bumped off and nobody's tried to well no I'm not for a number of reasons some of them deep and some of them less tea than the less deep one is that if something happened to me now given the information I've been putting out and given the if you like reputation I have for doing this then it would be terribly counterproductive I'm sitting here looking at about 20 books packed with with with information I mean they would be right in the public attention if anything happened to me well what was the guy saying and all this stuff so it would give a massive boost to the circulation of information and to get people to think well hold on a minute maybe he was saying something and so it's not it's it's counterproductive from that point of view so that you think that if anything happened to you you would be seen as a bit of a martyr well nothing's going to happen to me III what I want to do what what I want to do not be a martyr I don't want to statue I don't to be a martyr I don't want a round of applause I want to circulate information to the best of my ability for absolutely as long as I can but the the way that the authorities kind of respond to you is not to kill you because that for reasons I've described and others would be counterproductive it's to stop you being circulated and for a long time to have you the the center of public ridicule well that starting to die down now I mean you can only say someone's mad for so many times before it's no longer news and people are starting to listen so the only way they can respond to me now is to stop my information circulating as best they can correct but that's fiesel problem because that the genie is out of the bottle now and i going away quick final question from me and it's an important one and you know maybe I've just missed the answer to this so you can fill me in about it and run it please please feel free to you started your own alternative organization to counter the mainstream media which is what you've been telling me we need another voice against the MSM I think it was was it called the People's Voice what what happened - it didn't work it didn't work because a lot of people came through the door to make it not work and eventually you you couldn't get advertising for it advertisers didn't want to know and so it didn't work but a lot of good things were done there and so yeah but what what do you do do you give up no you you you try again and and you're gonna work towards something similar but from coming from a different angle which will be much more workable so you're relaunching but different no no no I'm not saying we're gonna relaunch up some we're working towards it with with with some people but where it goes is where it goes and and that was that was not me in the sense of it was my station whatever um I I was a part of it yeah but my work has always been what I do individually that's that's my well you feel you're failing classes David have you felt do you think you failed with that what's failure tell me what failure is God knows I've been asking myself for years I'm just what your thoughts are Michelle I'll give you one definition of failure not trying yeah no it's right we can agree with that a great sage once said I wish I could remember who it was that that failing is not going down but failing is staying down it wasn't about going down it's about having a go didn't work yeah we've got a massive amount of information out in the period that it was it was running but um you know you have a go and and but if the message was so strong it should have flown shouldn't well no not if you can't get advertising to pay the bills you can't I you know tell me how ITV would would would keep doing the 10 o'clock news and all its programs if he couldn't get advertised understood David we're out of time I'm afraid my producers shaking her fist at me now and you don't mess with casts so thank you very much David it's always a pleasure to talk with you it's David Icke comm isn't it it's David Icke calm yep the news from a different angle every day constantly updated I though I look I see David have a good night and good luck in Dublin with the next stage on your tool you take care thank you I'm looking forward to it see you soon bye take care David Icke

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Published: Mon Aug 20 2018