Shooting down of Iran Air 655 (Pt 2 of 3)

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it was our<font color="#CCCCCC"> concern however</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that that</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Vincennes</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> was acting in an overly</font> aggressive<font color="#E5E5E5"> fashion or so it seemed and</font> that they were actually<font color="#E5E5E5"> pursuing these</font> boats<font color="#E5E5E5"> rather than being pursued by them</font> the IRGC were sort of a<font color="#E5E5E5"> ragamuffin band</font> if you will I mean<font color="#E5E5E5"> they were they were</font> not<font color="#CCCCCC"> very well coordinated</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and certainly</font> it wouldn't be too difficult<font color="#CCCCCC"> to scare</font> them I don't think into doing something<font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font> was foolhardy<font color="#E5E5E5"> if they saw a lot of</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">military machinery bearing down on them</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">that could easily become</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> frightening it</font> was<font color="#CCCCCC"> our business out there to defend</font> shipping against those guys but<font color="#E5E5E5"> not to</font> provoke them it was hammered home to us that that<font color="#CCCCCC"> we</font> were the neutrals that<font color="#CCCCCC"> we were in a very</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">difficult position that that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> restraint</font> was there but<font color="#E5E5E5"> if that if you needed to</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">have</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the use of the rules of engagement</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">so be it there they were there for</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> you</font> to protect<font color="#E5E5E5"> yourself</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and your crews in</font> support of<font color="#E5E5E5"> the Vincennes fighters were</font> launched from<font color="#CCCCCC"> a nearby carrier</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> enormous</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">firepower to deal with lightly armed</font> speedboats they look like you're closing one appears<font color="#E5E5E5"> to be</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> gonna have</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to start from</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">ones in the middle machine gun three</font> five<font color="#CCCCCC"> zeros inbound</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> refine zero relative</font> relative still inbound [Music] <font color="#E5E5E5">taking track</font> we're not<font color="#E5E5E5"> sure</font> the<font color="#CCCCCC"> Montgomery also opened fire</font> [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] during that engagement<font color="#E5E5E5"> with the small</font> boats<font color="#CCCCCC"> the aircraft lifts off from bond</font> robust and then proceeds<font color="#E5E5E5"> on course</font> essentially slightly off schedule as has <font color="#E5E5E5">been</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> noted I think they were 20 minutes</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">or so behind</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> schedule</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> climbing</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> on a</font> fixed<font color="#CCCCCC"> course using the proper iff and so</font> forth and<font color="#E5E5E5"> so on</font> every aircraft broadcasts its own unique identity<font color="#E5E5E5"> by transmitting an electronic</font> squawk code<font color="#E5E5E5"> iff</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> identification Friend or</font> Foe<font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Airbus continually broadcast its</font> civilian status<font color="#CCCCCC"> the aircraft</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> was</font> proceeding on a course<font color="#E5E5E5"> that would take</font> it directly<font color="#CCCCCC"> over</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the Vincennes position</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">recall</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> again that Vincennes was</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> in the</font> middle of a gun battle with<font color="#E5E5E5"> these small</font> boats<font color="#E5E5E5"> now perhaps a battle of its own</font> making but firing nonetheless<font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font> Vincennes till carried on firing<font color="#E5E5E5"> though</font> they were well inside Iranian territorial waters the Airbus was now<font color="#CCCCCC"> 24</font> kilometres<font color="#E5E5E5"> along the regular air route</font> to Dubai<font color="#E5E5E5"> it had already been wrongly</font> identified as hostile the Vincennes believed it to<font color="#CCCCCC"> be an Iranian f-14</font> fighter you are inundated with intelligence messages projecting the worst case scenario<font color="#CCCCCC"> possible</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> every day of the week</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">such that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> if anything happened</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">whatsoever they could go</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> back to the</font> file and pull out a<font color="#E5E5E5"> warning that said</font> well we've warned them<font color="#E5E5E5"> about that but</font> life in<font color="#CCCCCC"> the Gulf was business as usual</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">commerce continued airliners continued</font> to fly back and<font color="#CCCCCC"> forth</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> if you allowed</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">yourself to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> focus solely on those</font> intelligence reports without<font color="#E5E5E5"> going up on</font> deck<font color="#E5E5E5"> walking around and looking at the</font> reality<font color="#CCCCCC"> of life</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> in the Persian Gulf</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> you</font> could<font color="#E5E5E5"> become quite paranoid about</font> threats that didn't exist but<font color="#CCCCCC"> there had</font> already<font color="#E5E5E5"> been official concern that</font> tensions might affect military<font color="#CCCCCC"> judgment</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">when I briefed in with with the</font> commander of the Mideast force<font color="#E5E5E5"> I know</font> that<font color="#E5E5E5"> a very serious concern</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of his</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> as a</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">matter of fact he said dick the one</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">thing that I am concerned</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> about is</font> shooting down<font color="#CCCCCC"> a</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> civilian aircraft</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> if</font> Captain Rogers believed it was a <font color="#E5E5E5">military aircraft</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and if he believed as</font> we think<font color="#E5E5E5"> he did</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that it</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> was part of a</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">coordinated effort at that point a</font> coordinated attack<font color="#CCCCCC"> then then in his mind</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">he could see this as a threat at this</font> point<font color="#E5E5E5"> the Vincennes had already issued</font> the Airbus<font color="#E5E5E5"> three warnings two of these</font> could not<font color="#E5E5E5"> be received by the civilian</font> airliner<font color="#E5E5E5"> as they were broadcast on</font> military frequencies and the third warning<font color="#E5E5E5"> did not identify</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> aircraft as</font> it<font color="#E5E5E5"> failed to use any iff squawk code</font> I was told<font color="#E5E5E5"> that it was an f-14 I watched</font> it<font color="#CCCCCC"> I</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> took a look at its altitude and its</font> speed it was<font color="#E5E5E5"> climbing it was slow it was</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">in the middle of our missile envelope</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">the f-14</font> to my knowledge<font color="#E5E5E5"> had no significant</font> anti-surface warfare capability so<font color="#E5E5E5"> I</font> designated<font color="#CCCCCC"> this thing in my</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> own mind as</font> a non threat Captain Rogers on the<font color="#CCCCCC"> other</font> hand involved<font color="#E5E5E5"> with his gun battle at</font> that time announces that he is<font color="#E5E5E5"> intent</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> on</font> taking<font color="#CCCCCC"> that aircraft out at</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> 20 miles it</font> got tense it did<font color="#E5E5E5"> make the situation much</font> more complicated<font color="#CCCCCC"> both ships had</font> attempted<font color="#CCCCCC"> to communicate</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> with the</font> aircraft and<font color="#E5E5E5"> we were unsuccessful we got</font> no response<font color="#E5E5E5"> back we could hear the</font> challenges go out on military air distress and<font color="#E5E5E5"> this civilian version where</font> the<font color="#CCCCCC"> air distressed</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> channels so we were</font> aware<font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> they</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> were warning</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> an aircraft</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">an approaching aircraft</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> typically if you</font> could not communicate<font color="#E5E5E5"> with an</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Iranian</font> airplane military aircraft you illuminated them with your fire control radar<font color="#E5E5E5"> you let them know that you were</font> there<font color="#E5E5E5"> and they would</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> generally depart</font> the<font color="#E5E5E5"> area when we illuminated it with</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> our</font> fire control radar it didn't react<font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font> American<font color="#CCCCCC"> fighters launched earlier could</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">have</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> identified the airliner</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> as a</font> civilian flight but the carrier commander would not allow them to approach the area<font color="#E5E5E5"> fearing they might be</font> shot down by an overeager Vincennes<font color="#CCCCCC"> I</font> did not have the<font color="#CCCCCC"> capability to talk</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">directly to the commanding officer of</font> Vincennes<font color="#CCCCCC"> simply</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> because he</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> was engaged</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">on</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> a very personal basis in a fight and</font> I knew they were<font color="#E5E5E5"> about ready</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to pull the</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">trigger on a missile</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that could kill my</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">pilots</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and I wanted to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> make absolutely</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">certain that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> they didn't become the</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">victim</font> for<font color="#CCCCCC"> truth 21 miles the aircraft crosses</font> the<font color="#E5E5E5"> 20-mile mark and he doesn't shoot it</font> down<font color="#E5E5E5"> 18 so at that point I breathed a</font> sigh of relief thinking that<font color="#E5E5E5"> ah</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> okay he</font> has now seen<font color="#CCCCCC"> that it is a non threat but</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">I'm told transpired during that period</font> of time<font color="#E5E5E5"> afterwards</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> is that they</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> weren't</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">capable of getting the shot off in an</font> orderly<font color="#CCCCCC"> fashion</font> so although the intent was to<font color="#CCCCCC"> shoot it</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">down at 20 miles</font> they sort of bungled the operation while the<font color="#E5E5E5"> surface battle continued the crew</font> below struggled to fire their missiles <font color="#CCCCCC">before the aircraft came so close that a</font> successful<font color="#E5E5E5"> launch would be impossible</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> 27</font> unsuccessful attempts were made<font color="#E5E5E5"> before</font> the correct<font color="#E5E5E5"> launch code was</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> entered</font> [Music] <font color="#CCCCCC">you</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> created an uproar on</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the ship which</font> was quickly quieted down the Vincennes continued to pound the bog hammers we had individuals who were up in<font color="#E5E5E5"> places</font> where they could<font color="#CCCCCC"> see wreckage fall I</font> could see the<font color="#E5E5E5"> airplane coming down</font> it wasn't until sometime<font color="#CCCCCC"> later that they</font> described the wreckage in terms<font color="#E5E5E5"> that led</font> us to<font color="#CCCCCC"> believe</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that it was not a</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> military</font> aircraft<font color="#CCCCCC"> there was too much too large</font> and over the emergency<font color="#CCCCCC"> frequency they</font> heard a desperate Iranian appeal<font color="#E5E5E5"> shot</font> down an Iranian airliner<font color="#E5E5E5"> but critically</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">while in Iranian waters</font> please look for<font color="#CCCCCC"> survivors or wreckage I</font> can just only<font color="#E5E5E5"> recollect the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Nepal has</font> settled<font color="#CCCCCC"> over the entire force</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> when it</font> started to<font color="#CCCCCC"> become apparent that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> this was</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">an airliner that was involved</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> it was</font> just a<font color="#E5E5E5"> sickening</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> feeling for the entire</font> rest of<font color="#CCCCCC"> the day I can't ever</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> remember</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">being so dismayed so depressed</font> so<font color="#E5E5E5"> feeling for all of the people that</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">were involved</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> it wasn't it wasn't</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> a very</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">happy day</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> in the Gulf for us that's for</font> sure<font color="#E5E5E5"> the sides was dispatched to go</font> close to<font color="#E5E5E5"> the to Dubai</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to see if they</font> could<font color="#E5E5E5"> find wreckage and they spent a</font> considerable<font color="#E5E5E5"> amount of</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> time there was</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">nothing there</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> it's also fairly</font> ironic that the Vincennes<font color="#E5E5E5"> is the one</font> that<font color="#E5E5E5"> came</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> upon the wreckage</font> this was hardly surprising<font color="#E5E5E5"> as the Airbus</font> and<font color="#E5E5E5"> it's dead were an Iranian waters</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">only a few kilometers from where the</font> Vincennes had shot it down it was the<font color="#E5E5E5"> middle of the night when</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font> news was<font color="#CCCCCC"> sent to Washington a time</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">difference of 7 hours with the Gulf the</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">shoot-down was a major incident</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> with</font> enormous diplomatic implications<font color="#E5E5E5"> and so</font> the Navy had to prepare itself<font color="#CCCCCC"> for a</font> rough ride<font color="#E5E5E5"> Admiral William</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Crowell</font> chairman of<font color="#CCCCCC"> the Joint Chiefs of Staff</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">was sent out to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> face the press after</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">receiving further data and evaluating</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">information available from</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the Persian</font> Gulf<font color="#E5E5E5"> we believe</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that the cruiser USS</font> Vincennes<font color="#E5E5E5"> while actively engaged with</font> threatening Iranian surface<font color="#E5E5E5"> units and</font> protecting itself from<font color="#E5E5E5"> what was</font> concluded to be a<font color="#E5E5E5"> hostile</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> aircraft shot</font> down an Iranian airliner over<font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font> Straits of Hormuz<font color="#E5E5E5"> the US government</font> deeply regrets the<font color="#E5E5E5"> sense of it given the</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">threatening flight profile and the</font> decreasing range<font color="#E5E5E5"> the aircraft was</font> declared hostile<font color="#E5E5E5"> Vincennes prior to the</font> standard surface-to-air missiles at least one which range<font color="#E5E5E5"> six-month Admiral</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">Crowl presented the facts</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> as the</font> Vincennes had reported claiming the aircraft had been diving<font color="#E5E5E5"> in an attack</font> mode outside<font color="#E5E5E5"> its correct air lane and</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">that it had not responded</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to any</font> warnings this was the story that<font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">world and America first heard</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> United</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">States Navy of the US Central Command</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">within a day the Pentagon knew it had</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">another problem the version of the</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">incident reported to them by the USS</font> sides<font color="#CCCCCC"> it's climbing it's slow it doesn't</font> respond it's in the middle of the our missile envelope basically it's vulnerable<font color="#CCCCCC"> why would this aircraft</font> present a threat<font color="#CCCCCC"> it did</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> not meet any of</font> the threat parameters that were necessary for
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