Session 2: Amish Values and Culture | Samuel Girod

glenn you look pretty tired did you get plenty of sleep i only got like four hours of sleep too so but i'm ready to go i'm ready to go so so phil you didn't put a curse on this new technology stuff did you so because uh i like the old-fashioned way too but i like the new technology stuff too so we're gonna be uh in session two um talking about the amish culture and values and i've taught this several times and so i know somewhat about this stuff here um that first session was is really really tough for me to do because number one i'll admit it i don't know that much about history and so because it's my fault i don't read that much about it and all that i wish i would but don't get time to take the time to do it so this session here i'm very familiar with and it's a session that i can relate to and so much with that so what we're going to do is we're going to go to about 12 o'clock i know the time is on the schedule to be off at 12 15 but i'm going to try to cut it at 12 o'clock if i can and then uh we're going to eat lunch and just fellowship we got food out there i know someone probably has to leave after a while then after lunch they're going to play music out here and that's the cue to get out here to get ready to go and we're going to have a little bit of preaching and uh glenn yoder from missouri the great state of show me state right show me state he's out there in cahokia missouri preaches that bible baptist church independent fundamental baptist church and uh he's the one that uh took polly in him and ida took paulie and they've been such a great blessing to us but i'll give you a little bit more of that in the introduction when i bring them up here so we're going to get into session two on culture and the values of the amish birth early childhood happens this is early childhood amish families have an average of seven children per family although it goes up to it's not uncommon for a family to have 13 children to have 19 children i know a family that had 20 20 children from the same father and mother there's just big family it's not uncommon for a family to have that many and then there's uh but the average usually is around seven children per family we're getting ready to have our seventh child and people wonder if we're still amish or not no we're not amish we left the amish but and so we um we don't believe in birth control i still don't and the amish that's one thing too they don't they don't believe in birth control either children are often born at home in the amish families and in birthing centers for the following reasons like such as midwives this stuff like that i know my mom had me in a hospital in hicksville ohio and then she had 11 more children they were all in a birthing center which was just at a midwife facility so mom had him away from home at a birthing center and the youngest one amos he's just turned 16 in july he was born in a hospital as well so the firstborn and the youngest were born in hospital in my family so it's not uncommon for them to to have home birth or to have a birthing centers they do not carry medical insurance since most have seven to 16 children hospital bills can be quite expensive so they don't have insurance so getting quite expensive for that but you know today i noticed i know that today i come from a sector of amish people that didn't have insurance but there's many sects of amazing people communities that have insurance and it's a a nationwide sort of insurance that the amish hold within themselves i just talked to my cousins about a month ago down in owensville kentucky their barn burned down last year well they had insurance which shocked me well it was amish aid insurance it's on its insurance amongst the amish to have insurance which i think is a pretty good thing and then comfort the reason they have the uh birth at home is for comfort the home environment offers more comfortable flexibility and and and i can ex and i can vouch for that too because our first three were born in the hospital and you're so much under pressure and you have you're a number at a hospital and so our last three and our fourth one the last three and then the seventh one is going to be born at home and so it's so much more relaxing that's why they did it too that's one reason is for comfort and then the amish is also for care amish lean more towards midwives and doctors who are used to helping them and better understand amish culture than nurses and doctors in stressful and routine hospital settings so those are three reasons mostly why they have is cost comfort and care that they have in pregnancies and where babies come from are in most are in most cases only discussed between the adults the father and the mother usually discuss with that with about the babies or to their married siblings they don't discuss it with their children for example polly she never her she never knew which end the baby comes out to be quite frank with you on that until i married her and i had to teach her from what i knew because she didn't know how it goes about even to make a baby and so the amish young girls are not taught how the how that takes place and how god created that and uh how beautiful that is and so and the sad part of it is my wife's uh mother was a midwife paulie's mom was a midwife and polly didn't know nothing and she was 27 years old when she married me and glenn is still unhappy about that but anyways glenn married us and polly lived with glenn's and glenn's adopted her as her daughter pretty much their daughter but anyways when the young children turn five years old they begin to give work responsibilities such as carrying out firewood mowing grass and helping with the fire farm chores and that's exactly right i was um seven years old when i was scraping out hog pins with 40 hogs in the pen seven years old with my five-year-old brother shoving us and putting us down in two inches of manure two inches of manure and and we had to scrape these these floors were um uh sloped and we had to scrape this all out and everything we were taught to work at a young age i had back problems at eight years old because i was carrying two five gallon buckets of slop to the hogs and i had back problems at a young age because we were taught to work i remember milking my cow for the first time i was seven years old remembered as clear as day when i went out to milk at seven years old and we got a cow right now and she's gonna be fresh any time and is rebecca's to be seven this week so i'm thinking about that but anyways uh amish schooling amish schoolhouse is typically one large open classroom with a basement to a house to to house a furnace and firewood basement usually one section of the basement a lot of times housed the firewood and the the stove that brought heat up now in my case where i came from i had a one room schoolhouse with one floor and then we had a curtain right down the middle of the school room and we taught grade one and four one side and grade five to eight on the other side we only had eighth grade education that was the school setting in that in the classroom of children split in two sections like one to fourth grade or five to eight like explained in some cases amish send their children to public schools for various reasons they uh some this is more common in communities in hometown and ohio and northern indiana some of them send their special needs children a lot of times to to public schools but it's uh my grandfather he was raised he was lived in adams county indiana he moved out in 1954 that's what i remember but before night he was 15 years old so he went to an english school this is kind of before the amish became uh parochial schools and before they came separate so they went to english schools a lot of time but later on i don't know if it's in this session or session tomorrow i'll explain a little bit how the school separated from the amish but in some cases i'm sending their kids to public schools i shared that and some amish homeschool their children some homeschool children education community got community involvement oftentimes an amish farmer in the community will allow the schoolhouse to be building a property without charge my uncle for example he had several acres and so he lotted off like two acres and he's sold it he didn't really charge anything to the community to the church and we fenced it off we built a schoolhouse on and that's where it is in most amish settlements like that the community pays for pays for and maintains the cost for the schoolhouse and so each family is charged for uh school bills they've got a school building they gotta have to pay for pay for the teacher then you've got education students start school at age of six and graduate with equivalent about fifth grade education i know when i left the amish i went to do ged classes and so i only had an eighth grade education i graduated school right when i turned 15. and i know when i went to do gd class after i uh after i left the amish i wanted to get my ged i didn't finish it i didn't get it but i know they graded me they graded me on my equivalent of education i don't know what you would say but on some subjects i had as much as 9th grade education and summer heads as much as fifth grade education i forget what my fifth grade education was but i i just that's how they engaged me to see what i needed to finish my ged and i was fifth grade and the highest was ninth grade so but i didn't pursue it on because i had my own business and i didn't feel like i need a ged to do my own business and i'm doing quite well by the grace of god so i thank god for that by the time a student reaches the second grade he or she is required to speak the english language at all times while school is in session those who get caught speaking to mother tongue are disciplined i remember we were not allowed to speak our mother tongue which was swiss or pennsylvania dutch we were supposed to speak english and we were not really taught english until we went to school i know i learned how to speak english somewhat before i went to school at seven years old because dad would always have english people come over and i would learn how to speak that's how a lot of them learn how to speak english but our mother tongue was either pennsylvania dutch or some form of german in other words student lessons are graded with a letter grade of a b c or f too many ads in a school year will fail the student required a student to take the same grade second time i remember if you got 5s you flunk you went down to the next grade the next year it was just that simple so we worked hard not to get an f and some of them didn't work hard i know that i had several kids in my grade that had flunked twice and were in my grade and went down below me so that happens all the time it's not education is not so uh like it is today in the public course i don't like the way the public teaches they they teach weird stuff anyways but in today's age the way we teach in homeschooling the biblical way of homeschooling like for example our rebecca r malachi malakai and rebecca rebecca has been getting up with me every morning for the last two months before i go to work she makes sure to get up i don't wake her up she gets up she's not even seven yet she'll be seven the seventh of this month she gets up every morning with me she reads the bible with me very clearly she knows how to read she knew how to read when she was four years old because we kept materials in front of her malachi he wants to now get up and uh he wants to do it so he's been starting to do it now every the last week and it's uh it's it's uh it's just amazing to listen to them uh uh read and i'm trying to think what word did he use it started with the ex in the bible and he related it to an excavator there's no excavator in the bible but he said excavator and he went on reading but it's so interesting dude i don't criticize him i just say no this is what it says you know i just be patient with him let him read but i can't explain to you the joy that it puts inside of me to listen to my children read i just it just it just excites me to listen to them read i just just i i love it and then when the education differences between them and what we are putting before them is amazing at the level that they know and that's the way it is with a lot of bible-believing families that have children and what i'm the reason i'm saying this is last year we went to an amish auction just down the road from us and my family was there matter of fact my nieces and nephews were there that were same age as my children and they are same age as rebecca and malachi but you could tell the biggest difference they're not taught what my children taught they don't they they acted like three-year-olds they acted like three-year-olds it was just amazing i seen it firsthand it was just amazing and so they don't send their children to school until they're about six or seven years old the amish school day is divided into periods covering the various subjects such as lunch two recess periods for um i mean to cover various subjects then they have lunch for recess two recesses periods for playing outside games such as volleyball and kick and kick can goose andy over and all that stuff the school usually averages from 15 to 40 students usually when it got to 30 or more they would split the room and make it so it's two two two rooms and two teachers two reasons for eighth grade education and then also teachers i didn't share about the teacher one teacher typically handles all eighth grade sometimes she is provided with an assistant and in most cases teachers are female and single sometimes having graduated from the school that year i know i had eight sisters and every one of my sisters taught school right after they got out of school they taught school they only had an eighth grade education so just taught school and every one of them taught eight sisters taught a teacher is selected for showing good and moral character christian values and for having an interest in teaching and some of my sisters had interest some of them didn't on a rare occasion a new community might hire a non-amish teacher until they have one of their own to take over and i know a lady that uh goes to church in a community baptist church in uh uh la pierre or uh cross man i can't think of the name of that talent up in michigan lady that goes up to a baptist up we did a conference up there one time she's an older lady and she taught in an amish school and she was english and she was a bible believer she thought i'm school until they heard that she shared the gospel with some of the children she got kicked out she got kicked out but two reasons for eighth grade education is number one reason is practicality amish believed that eight years of classroom training provides a child with enough schooling to survive and make a decent living in the amish career now i don't know who always heard about this but in 1972 it was the state of wisconsin versus yoder i don't know that much history about it but i know the public wanted to get those amish to go to the public school and so they went it went all the way to the supreme court am i not right about that glenn it went all the way to the supreme court about this they finally ruled it out that the amish could have their own schools and so they because they the public wanted them to get 12th grade education and honestly they only needed eight years of education amish recognized that they and the world as a whole need doctors bankers lawyers law enforcement other professionals that college and universities produce however they do not need they do not see a need for such learning and career aspiration in their own culture i know growing up i often played cops and robbers when i was a child and i always made a wooden cb out a piece of wood block of wood and a wooden gun i always desired to be a cop i always loved love love law enforcement desire to be a cotton never figured i could be a cop and but because it was like you don't amish don't do that you only do farming carpentry homemaking whatever that's just a few things that you do you don't even think about being a cop but i remember doing that but i had the privilege after i left to run for sheriff in our county so that was interesting in itself even though i lost but it was still interesting in itself and reason number two is religion the amish feel higher education can lead a person away from their religious upbringing and the community and i can go on and on sharing testimony upon testimony on how the amish when they leave you get accused of knowing too much about the bible how can you know too much about the bible but because you read the bible and understand the bible when you ex you and amish get saved and they understand and they find freedom in the word of god then they say that's too much bible it's too much learning of the bible is what they say and then religion is not offered or taught in school religious teaching is typically left as a matter for the church in the home so when you're amish we separated god and work as today as believers everything is one right everything is from god in other words what i mean by that is i'm i thank god that i have work i am blessed that i have work but the army separated that on sundays it was god monday tuesday wednesday thursday and friday and saturday was just work and was just worldly it wasn't it wasn't it was like they didn't really appreciate that they had to work on sunday or to work and all that stuff whereas today if it wouldn't be for god it wouldn't have nothing it wouldn't be for god if it wouldn't be for what christ jesus did i wouldn't have anything and so that's what they felt like at that time it's offered and then it's not taught our doctrine is necessarily not taught in school what we're taught in school was how to speak german how to read german we spoke swiss we spoke pennsylvania dutch but we had to learn how to read german that's the only thing that we were taught and the only thing i really knew about the bible before i got saved is i knew and and this is weird that in corinthians chapter 13 is the love church the second and first corinthians second corinthians chapter 13 is the love chapter first christian scene there you go first corinthians is a love trap that's all i knew it's a love chapter it's just a charity about charity and so i didn't know anything i didn't even know about john 3 16 until i left the amish and so religious not is not offered to talk in school anyways let's go on here teenagers at home between ages 14 17 young men are taught their father's trades young women are mentored and taught how to grade cook clean do laundry and make mules and in that church the teenagers must join the youth group until the age of 16 or 17 at the young age amish are considered old enough to start to dating we dated when we were amish and after the age of 17 youth usually got get baptized and join a church church and this age varies from different communities depending on where you go but by the time you got baptized we had to follow the eight we had learned 18 articles of faith some communities um they did confirmation or whatever you would say uh for six months the swiss did it for a year and so we would sit under the the preachers uh in a separate room at every church service and then they would make us say the article that day of that sunday so we had somebody had to take turn of that there might be five there might be six uh youth that were what they would call following church or whatever and then we would sit in a room and we would say our articles and then we there's another saying that we would say that was german and had some kind of religious thing to it on sunday evenings the youth meet at the same house in which church services were held during the day to sing german songs this service is called is singing so we always look forward to go to the sing when we were 16 or 17 years old that was the highlight of our life and so there were just several things that were a highlight of our lives when we were young and that is first we were getting to baptize we can become a member of church second thing i looked forward to was getting married and so there was a two main things that we look forward to as an amish young teenager is that getting becoming baptized and then becoming married as a young man dating in marriage is that marriage are not put together by parents or the church although some believe that that is the case but it's not partners have to marry within the same fellowship for example a member of the old order amish is forbidden to marry a member of the new order church do no order amish i know part of my testimonies in 2009 i got uh got to talking to a girl in davis county that we were not really in fellowship with and we were not fellowship with him matter of fact and so i tried to date her and we did for about a month or so but the church had a problem with it they said that they because they have modern things they have um hanging cabinets which we were not allowed to have they had indoor plumbing which were not allowed to have and then they had gas lamps which were not allowed to have and they read the bible every morning which we never did and so therefore they're too modern and they had air which was in davis county you guys were from davis county and so that's that was i was so i had the church came to me and said i have to break up with her and i ain't going to work but thank god that happened because i wouldn't be here today with paul if that wouldn't be the case amen to that and then weddings um weddings is before a person can get married he or she has to be baptized remember the church and that is true we had to be baptized in order to get married sometimes young teenagers 16 and 17 years old would have uh sex and so they couldn't get married they had to get married but in order to get married they had to baptize them sometimes there was incidents where they baptized them that day and married them the same day but they could not get married unless they were baptized just because they got had a wedlock so they had to get married that was to deal with that they had to do that weddings usually take place in springtime or the fall are traditionally held on a tuesday or thursday and there's just so much more there that you could read in your book there if you wanted to funeral services and burials during the time that a diseased body is in the home until the time of the funeral the amish will not leave the body unattended at least three men will stay up all night until the body's in the ground now i'm not familiar with the three men i'm familiar with the youth staying up all night with the body they stayed up all night with a body then another group would stay up the next night while the other group went resting until the day of the funeral nobody would be not everybody would be sleeping somebody had to stay up with the body for some odd reason i'm not exactly sure why that was like that that was a tradition that we had that we always held funerals are held in amish homes sometimes it's in big pool barns in the summertime a large funeral can sometimes bring as many as five to eight hundred people it's up to up to a thousand people sometimes and then the women always wear black and funerals they always wear black and sometimes if it's a family member that died or close family member they wear black and they wear black for six months sometimes a year sometimes for a couple years in honor of that person that died for example even when amish leave when a family member leaves the amish they wear black to this day my mom is still wearing black because i left the amish on sundays and church is where they were black not necessarily at work day at home or anywhere they go but three days before the funeral takes place relatives of friends will gather at the home and this and the disease of the home of the deceased during that time people hardly talk and when they do it is in a whispering voice only and i and how true that is we always just whispered and during the time with the funeral when the funeral took place before when after after everybody ran out after everybody walked through the casket and went out the family would gather around the casket and they would just bawl and i mean whale and just cry and just cry and i always hated those times because it was such a sad time and it just freaked me out as a young man doing that i mean it was be for 15 minutes to 20 minutes sometimes it would just bawl and cry like that and then burials caskets are made out of wood and the vault's usually made out of wood as well family members and friends gather around the open grave while four pallbearers lower the cask into the hole and fill in the dirt and you know that's one thing that i think is a good thing from the amish uh in my opinion is that when they bury somebody they bury them down and they stay there and they cover them up in the english world as you go into the you go to the funeral you go to the grave site and you have your services there and you leave and then they bury you well i experienced with joanna is that when we left our kids were saying what happened with joanna when we were leaving it just broke my heart we went and i called the funeral director and i said look uh can you just before you cover her up can we come back and he said yeah so we went back and we watched him put her down and so we watched him put her down and so that gave us closer that gave us closure and and i didn't realize it at the time but that gave us closer and i think that's the one thing that the amish do that when they do that they do that kind of in a right way in my mind in my opinion it gives you a closure when they bring them and we we went did that we went back there and they they gave us closer and it gave the children closure they never asked anything more after that so i was blessed about that the bible speaks of jesus appearing in the east and they bury the body with the feet pointed to the east and their head to the west because it speaks of them appearing in the it speaks of jesus appearing in eat so they always made sure the heads are pointed to the west and those and i remember going past english graveyards and i'm wondering why don't they have them all pointing to the west you know but because it doesn't matter those who pass away communicated from the church are buried outside the cemetery fence without a headstone now that is true for a lot of sex they take the ones that leave the ammunition when they die and when they get when they get buried back into the amish cemetery they bury them outside the fence i don't know that is the case with us i'm not going to get buried in that cemetery anyways i'm going to get buried in an english cemetery it's going to be in the dirt it doesn't mean anything but what i wanted to say is we're going to have a guy here supposedly tomorrow ex-amish guy i'm going to have him share his testimony and his dad had left the amish died and they buried him at amish cemetery and they buried him way away from the actual cemetery on the cemetery and put him way over there in the corner and his dad got saved right before he died and so this guy got saved too radically changed and his name is eli yoder so i'm hoping he's gonna be here tomorrow i thought he's going to be here today but i'm going to have him share that story as well because it's real the burial sites is amish have their own cemeteries usually located in an open corner hayfield a short distance from the main road the area of the cemetery is donated by the amish farmer usually is what happens now we're going to get into mentorship here yeah this glitch thing is not working again if i wait too long it doesn't work mentorship father to son relationship father works with her son at the young age in order to teach them to work ethic fathers teach son their teachers sons their work trade by the time son reaches the age of leaving home and getting married they have for the most part learn how to run their own business and support a family for example it was encouraged for us to wait to get married until we were 21 and my dad in his era in the 70s when they got married in 70s and early 80s my dad my dad's dad which was my grandfather if you got married under 21 you had to stay home until you're 21. my dad got married at 19 years old and he had to stay home in a little in a little house and he had to work there until he was 21 years old and he had to milk the cow's dead and grandpa had 20-25 cows they had the meal dad had to stay there with his young wife which is my mom and me as a young baby i remember we lived in a 12 but i don't remember that but i uh know that we had to live in a 12 by 16 little shack that grandpa had on the fleece during the dead had to stay there until he was 21. and a few few trays that are very common among the amish include dairy farming sawmills blacksmith shops woodworking shops and carpet that's all we knew cabinetry all that stuff then a mother to daughter uh um mentorship was a mother will work with daughters and teach them daily duties at the house by the time the daughters reach the age of getting married there for the most part know how to do things and run a home on her own mothers teach their daughters how to bake cook and clean and they're just several things there the amish involvement in the world is that voting is very rare in the amish community i know growing up we never voted it was never thought of as voting that's for the english people that's for the heathens that's for the lost people that's how we looked at it as but uh only around 10 to 15 of the amish people cast balance in presidential elections now i have several uncles that moved out of my community went down to owensville there's now like 80-100 families in owensville kentucky and i heard when i went down and visited my uncle a couple weeks ago they they vote for the local um uh local government i noticed and and it says here amish are more apt to vote when it involves issues that will affect them for for example zoning they got bad roads there and they got tired of the bad routes so they started voting out and voting in people that they want to vote that would take care of those which was unheard of on my era but there is amish that do that and the reasons why amish generally don't vote is they view the view the world as a material kingdom and not to and do not want to conform to it in any way because amish do not enter public office or take positions in government positions they have less drive to vote amish rarely accept government handouts i know we never accepted government handouts um i heard now in the last five six years that there's several amish communities that are taking government handouts such as food they take food they take food from the government that government has to offer like snap and all that stuff amish do not go to war i almost believe that by resisting violence and avoiding service in the war they are following christ's example by not going to war they believe that jesus accepted the beating on the cross calvary without resisting and humiliate emulate this same attitude towards world conflicts they live by the role of turning the other cheek rather than killing in war is what they live by by law amish must register at 18 at age 18. and so there's this goes on if you want to read in your book there then taxes amish are required to pay taxes just like any other united states citizens now i know we grew up paying property taxes but i know that my dad got by with income taxes for many years but it make the federal government crack down so much now that you have to pay federal income taxes and you have to pay that so dad them a lot of amish did they did the social security thing they believed a lot of amish did pay the federal income taxes but they didn't receive the benefits because they didn't believe that they need to receive the benefits men's hobbies is amish auctions and horse seals they love i went too far there auctions and horses one of the highlights of the amish men and the boys was going to horse seals they love to go to horseshoe they love to go to auctions they love to go to barn raises we'd have to get togethers and raise barns and build houses and all that stuff and hunting and trapping was a big thing also in the amish settlements that they that they like doing women's hobbies quilting amish women pour hours into their quilts in order to show love to family and friends i know my mom she made a living off well she bought most of our groceries with her quilts that she sold she always bought and sold quilts i made quilts and sold it my whole life that's all i remember is her doing quilts sometimes they would get together the women would get together and they would have quiltings and and all that stuff and then the one of the things that the women get together too is noodle making they like noodle making or some sort of baking or whatever they'd get together all the time for that and then cleaning whoever would have church at their house the week before that the family would usually go like for example my aunt if she would have church if they're gonna have church one sunday the sunday before that my mom and her girls my sisters would go there they would just clean the whole house inside and out get everything ready for church they would call that rich for which risk for church or whatever get ready for church so it's not uncommon for mother and daughter or daughter to get together every month to help each other clean house and do catch-up work these gatherings are called gluckings or cluckings or whatever that means so that we know that they would get together and and do that and quilt all the time and and help one another that's the thing that the amish women don't do they don't necessarily have jobs in restaurants or any places they were homemakers they had to stay home they taught their children how to do that and i know that when i married polly is that we had that freedom now she could have had a job if she wanted to and she said that she would if she says no babe we're not as long as i can work and god blesses his work you can stay home and you can be with the children and that's her place and she said that's fine that's what i'll do and you know what god has blessed him god has blessed it without a shadow of a doubt god has blessed him there's this is some myth about the amish amish and the questions that we get asked all the time um amish mafia is it a real organization yes i was the head of it no i'm just kidding but anyways most of the stars on the television shows about amish mafia are from an amish background thus they know and understand the culture how to act out their past lifestyle under the setting they are instructed to do so under before there was even an amish mafia tv show i was going around telling people before i left yamiche that i'm part of the amish mafia soon after i left i heard about the amish mafia show i didn't even know that so they took my show and made that made money off of my show but anyways myth number two amish don't pay taxes they say homies don't pay taxes we've heard when we moved in here that we brought money and buy the suitcases on the trains is what what we were being told by the english people around here that we came in with trains with suitcases of money in it i wish that were true because i probably wouldn't be here no i'm just kidding it wouldn't be true it's not all about money but anyways rome springer third myth is rome spring is the age when parents encourage your children to go into the world and so they're wild oats and then when done come back and settle down now i don't know who always heard about rome springer the translation of roman spring is running around simply running around and the tv industry has taken that and has made that room springer such a word that it's a bad thing to do bad thing to do so i got asked so many times when i was amish so are you roman spring do you ever do that roma springer thing so we're talking about roman springer and it's like and because it was on tv and so i said no because we were taught that and there was a community up in ohio and in indiana they would let their children leave the amish go out and drive and they would do the drugs and they would come back and so they would accept and come back they finally were so um i don't know what word to use but they were okay with it at that point we never were we never were okay without the swiss the old old order amish they never were allowed to do that we never were allowed to do that it was not even thought of doing that are amish marriages are they arranged do we get asked no i've never experienced that i've never seen that although it could have happened i don't know i don't know of any amish that has been managed young people are encouraged to find their own life partner as long as they marry within the same fellowship of believers and same-sex army sect you know being a believer today i believe that we need to uh be evenly yoked not even unevenly yoked and i believe all that and i think they take that and they take it out of context you know and all that stuff and what they believe because i don't i don't want my daughter just going and marrying a mormon or going marrying a catholic or whatever i just don't i wouldn't want that to happen i wouldn't encourage you not to and all that amish do they use the banking system yes they use the banking system but although there's groups that don't um there's a group in orange county amish there the old order amish there was a guy there that i had went out there and reached out to when i went out to see joseph and mary we went out and saw this guy in orange county they don't use banks he said they don't use banks they just don't these banks it's kind of the first i've heard that but some of them do we grew up using bank system all the time we had to use it or else we would have been able to get by necessarily they barely get by then myth number seven is or number six is uh the amish are slowly dying out and becoming extinct no they aren't they're not slowly dying out and becoming extinct on average of 80 to 90 of teens choose to be baptized and remain in the amish life in addition because of large family sizes their population decreases on a consistent basis and you saw me earlier in the earlier presentation that it doubles every 20 years this is what it is it doubles every 20 years and it's by physical birth not by conversions number seven if you're born outside the culture you cannot join the amish church yeah it's hard to they do it but you're never fully accepted you're never accepted i don't care how good you speak their language i don't care how good you try to act like them and have that accent like brother phil have it doesn't work you're never fully accepted and so over the years quite a few have joined the amish community matter of fact my great great grandfather his name was sam gerard back in the turn of the century in 1900 he was a catholic gentleman and he worked for the highway department and he was working in adams county indiana in that area somewhere there and they slept mostly in amish homes wherever they could while they were working on the road it was mutuals were very scarce and he saw this amish girl and he fell in love with her mary swords i think was her name i fell in love with her and he converted over to the amish back in that day they didn't have a motorized vehicle so everybody had a horse and buggy so it wasn't that much of a difference so he converted to the arms and let his beard grow out and became an amish man his name was sam gerard and so 100 years later another same drought leaves the amish which is me thank god so anyways uh number eight is amish most amish people are saved they're just not evangelistic outside their own circle no it is true that about maybe maybe we speculate about five to ten percent of the amish understand salvation and have a clear testimony maybe if that that's just speculating we don't know for sure however the majority believe that those who are born within the amish culture must stay with the church in order to please god and gain salvation at death that's the only time that we think that we can be born again or saved is when we finally meet god when we die on that day on that day is there any questions that's the end of that session we're going to go to lunch after this any questions yes amen amen amen well if that's it i think the women got yes amen amen so true um i've uh over the years i've talked to a lot of people and a lot of people have not understood a lot of things and figured out like that's the way it is with the amish you know they're just a cult just like with any other religion until i came here talking to jeremiah and phil they've enlightened so much to me knowing that because that is so true and they've seen it more than anything and so there is people out there i know that see that and i'm blessed by that and i found comfort in that knowing that if you're a true born-again believer and you're saved you're to go out and you know that but it's sad that there's a lot of them out there that don't really know they just don't know they don't know that and so that's ultimately why we're here today and i just want to thank you guys for coming yes jeremiah

Channel: Hope Baptist Church | Dillsboro, IN

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Keywords: Amish Culture and Values, amish, amish awareness conference, learn about amish values, learn about amish culture, samuel girod, MAP ministries, hbcofdillsboro, hope baptist church, hope baptist church dillsboro Indiana

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Length: 38min 33sec (2313 seconds)

Published: Mon Oct 12 2020