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that's a little microphone tonight on the Fifth Estate an unprecedented moment in Canadian crime and justice as it took place it is seen by people who know what happens in the mind of a killer holy animal so I appreciate come in an investigation like this I'm sure you can appreciate it's been big news yeah she done fell away it started with the police interrogators version of small talk for fast-forwarding things that we might normally take our time with and that's why we're here on a Sunday afternoon work so again I appreciate it and I'm quite sure at that point it's in everybody's mind he's not walking out that door free pen for a while there was denial but you ever visited marie-france como at her residence no all right I'm sorry by positive there'd be no reason why your DNA Oviatt use those three locations now what he's doing is trying to figure out an explanation to give this guy because he knows man I am screwed I am so screwed it would come down to the two men in the room the commanding officer and the detective your vehicle drove what the cider Jessica Lewis house your boots walked to the back of Jessica Lloyd's house on the evening of the 28th between 8th of January you want discretion we need to have some honesty okay because this is this is getting out of control really fast Russell really really fast he was taught to be a commander he was taught to be a leader he was taught to segment take the emotion away put there but Colonel Russell Williams was about to learn that he was no longer the one in charge yes I know there's only one option when he what he what other option is there what's the ocean I don't think he wants a cold blooded psychopath option he's looking at him he knows he's just dropped the first ball this is the beginning of the end on this special commercial-free edition of the fifth to stay inside the interrogation room there's a huge search still underway and it will continue that will continue until her body's found that might even happen tonight for all I not we got you not pony up buddy now it's time to man up on this thing quit acting like a little girl and tell me what happened tell me rustling I mean anyways good evening I'm Bob McEwan welcome to the fifth estate the picture is not high-def the camera angles are a bit off the leading man sometimes wanders off screen but what takes place in the interrogation and confession is more gripping and real than anything ever seen on CSI or Law & Order when he walks into that room Colonel Russell Williams is commanding officer of CFB Trenton Canada's largest most important airbase a top pilot who prides himself on discipline and self-control ten hours later he's a confessed murderer and sexual predator how he goes from one to the other is a fascinating view of police tactics the power of persuasion and sheer evil we haven't seen anything like it and we think you likely haven't either the interrogation would take place here at police headquarters in Ottawa it was Sunday February 7th 2010 Russell Williams was spending the weekend at the new home in ottawa's West End that he and his wife had recently moved into in the early afternoon he got a phone call asking him to the police building to answer a few questions he reportedly said he'd be back for dinner we don't know what went through his mind as he drove downtown but there certainly was a lot for him to think about it had been 10 days earlier January 28 that a 27 year old woman named Jessica Lord returned from an evening out to her house on highway 37 a 20-minute drive from Russell Williams cottage in Tweed Ontario she sent a final text message to a friend before calling it a night according to her brother Andy it was said night night I believe it was it was just kind of saying that was it and assumed she was on her way to bed because it was 10:30 and she had to work it you know eight o'clock in the morning yeah so that was the last anybody heard from her was that a few hours later about 3:00 a.m. two local men drove along that same stretch of highway 37 they noticed an SUV parked in a field next to an isolated house they kept driving it would be a while before they understood exactly what that scene later that day Andy Lloyd got a phone call from his mother his sister Jessica had never arrived at work and he went right to her house that's what was so weird is because everything was there you know it's why we couldn't figure out what had happened because all of her identification and I mean her cell phone and her purse and things people don't leave home without were there the whole town was looking for Jessica family friends members of the public police forces even search and rescue from CFB Trenton word spread across Ontario and that's when the man who'd seen the SUV noticed emergency vehicles around a house on highway 37 it was Jessica Lloyd's house the same one that was next to the field where the SUV had been parked that's when the man went to the police officers found tire tracks in the field and boot prints near the house the Ontario provincial police set up roadblocks checking the tires of cars at highway 37 looking for a match on Thursday February 4 one of those they stopped was Colonel Russell Williams driving his SUV they checked his tires then let him go unbeknownst to Williams he was under police surveillance from then on at the same time as the OPP was investigating the disappearance of Jessica Lloyd they had three other unsolved cases in the same vicinity a murder and two sexual assaults all had possible links to Colonel Williams the assaults took place in his tweed neighborhood the murder victim was marie-france como a corporal at CFB Trenton in fact a military flight attendant who'd once flown with him but it's likely that investigators never put it all together until they stopped Williams at that roadblock and matched his SUV's tires to the track found in the field it is just before 3 p.m. on Sunday February 7th when Russell Williams arrives at Ottawa Police Headquarters inside he's assured into an interrogation room the OPP is borrowed for the day it's sparsely furnished two chairs a desk nothing mounted on the walls but two digital cameras one pointed at the investigator Detective Sergeant Jim Smith the other at Colonel Williams veteran US homicide interrogator Paul Ciolino know is how it all works everything is controlled from the minute you bring them in that room okay the where you're sitting where he's sitting you never want to put a desk between you and anybody okay never you never interview from across a desk you always want to get close you start out kind of far but as the interrogation goes on you move in closer because you want that physical you want that intimate touch with somebody that's a little microphone and make sure there's nice and clear this room's a videotape an audiotape check you're being interviewed by the police and I'm in a room like this before I've never been no no okay yes for her top secret clearance oh yeah but even mention of his top secret clearance have no effect today before it's over this interview will be the most important conversation Russell Williams will ever have it is about 3:00 p.m. on February 7th when Colonel Russell Williams enters the police interview room in Ottawa you're being interviewed by the police and I'm in a room like this before have never been no okay whatever he's told himself about why he's here today he appears relaxed about the invitation to answer questions he clearly knows it's about the disappearance of Jessica Lloyd you know I would say our approach to cases like this is that we don't give up on somebody being alive until you get evidence that they're not so because of that we're treating Jessica's case as an emergent situation obviously the interviewer is Detective Sergeant Jim Smith of the Ontario Provincial Police he's been preparing for this moment for days I have a simple rule when I talk to people it's I'm sure you're the same way I treat everybody with respect I don't know why I ask is you're the same for me so what we're going to do is we're going to start off by going through what your rights are okay okay just like everybody else okay Marc Mendelsohn is a former Toronto homicide detective and the man who interrogated Karla Homolka the investigator comes from the Behavioral Sciences unit of the OPP he's a trained polygraph technician so he's obviously an excellent interviewer to begin with but they sat down with their body of evidence and with the psychiatrist from the behavioral sciences unit sort of developing a profile of what Williams is and what he's most likely to do when certain questions are put to him so that if he answers a they follow this path of the answers be they'll follow this path so there's no surprises they it was all laid out long before he walked in there Smith reminds Williams he's not under arrest and is free to go at any time if there's anything that comes up and our interview today Russell that that you feel you want to talk to a lawyer boat you just you just let me know right now he could have called him Colonel Williams he could have called him Sir and what he did and you'll notice during the course of the interview he never calls him colonel because what that does and I would have done I think any other homicide would and the same thing is it puts him on a different level in a different plateau he's got to be rough soul from tweed he's got to be the guy that lives in tweed and you don't give him that respect don't give him that power of being called Colonel Williams jokes that the only kind of lawyer he needs is for real estate transactions do you have your own lawyer okay once Smith has Williams in the right mindset the conversation returns to Jessica Lloyd I want to explain to you exactly what's going on here okay Jessica Lloyd is is one of four cases that were currently investigating right but Williams must know the questions will also touch on other recent crimes around his lakefront cottage and cozy Cove Lane and tweed Ontario because he knows what the police don't that beginning in 2007 when he was at the cottage usually alone a multitude of crimes would follow dozens of bizarre break-ins women's lingerie and underwear stolen almost all in his neighborhood and on his streets including two sexual assaults these first two attacks happened not that far from my place between both the second one dude yeah we didn't even know the first one had happened but I understand that was reasonably close as well but the second one was was very close notice he used the pronoun we referring to his marriage and he reminds Smith he's cooperated with police so certainly at the time you'll compete at a door-to-door yeah probably the same okay yeah and I'm aware of that you know you've kind of almost hit the nail on the head about some of our issues that kind of make us want to talk to - Russell Williams okay because essentially there's a connection between you and all four of those cases would you agree geographus - yes it seems unlikely that Russell Williams knew much if anything but the soft-spoken man sitting opposite him Detective Sergeant Jim Smith is a veteran in the OU peepees Behavioral Sciences unit which applies such techniques as criminal profiling and forensic psychiatry to crime investigation it was Smith acting on a hunch who found the body of the missing eight-year-old Tori Stafford in Woodstock Ontario a year ago there are few better at interrogation as Colonel Williams was about to find out having sent the scene with broad strokes Smith now gets to specifics like where Williams was the day Jessica Lloyd never made it to work okay and Otto our tweet tweet in Tweed okay discussion turns to corporal marie-france como found murdered in her home three months before one day that week we're talking about it but obviously my young people gets killed it it's your attentions absolutely I very mature bevin coming and how did you know marie-france corner i don't let her once she was on a crew I was on the base in fact the 38 year old Como was an adventuresome military flight attendant at Trenton she'd recently been a member of the crew flying Prime Minister Stephen Harper on a state visit to the Far East her friend Elaine plan spoke with her when she got back she flew from Trenton over the Pacific to go to Japan and from there when they came back they flew over the Atlantic so she went around the world and I don't know many people who did that's what was I was curious and happy for her but because her dream was coming true three days later Maui France Como's body was discovered inside her house in Brighton Ontario the cause of death was asphyxiation Colonel Williams tells detective Smith he learned about it from the military police now you got that email notifying it is something that happened it's unclear what thoughts go through Williams mind but he seems to be grasping for something to say do you have any kind of a clear recollection as to how your schedule was going that week well I can't remember what again what day that the message came in just a second I can't really tell you today that we I'm just thinking it was a whole bunch of activity spun up as a result obviously I can't remember the day of the week Detective Sergeant Smith takes the bungled answer as an opportunity to set out in another direction challenging Williams to prove he's innocent so if we were to do a similar investigation your background sir sir anything you can think of that anybody may have misinterpreted or anything in your history that somebody might say Russell Williams did this no okay are you very boring what's that it would be very boring alright because essentially that's what I'm looking at is that you seem like a very intelligent person and I think you can see how a surprise like that would certainly have social some alarm bells investigation great okay Smith now gets to the point he needs more than words from Williams what would you be willing to give me today to help me move past you in this investigation what what you need well would you be willing to supply things like fingerprints blood samples like that yeah watch what happens next at the mention of footwear footwear impressions Williams looks at his feet he's wearing boots I think that's what we're gonna ask you to do all right detective Smith leaves the room to find the necessary personnel it's here that Russell Williams faces a crucial juncture he can give Smith what he wants and risk the consequences or he can change his mind and ask for a lawyer blame it on hubris or being a good soldier but Williams doesn't flinch he provides his fingerprints blood and DNA and he lets them take prints of the boots he's wearing afterwards the colonel is apprehensive about who might learn about it can I assume you're gonna be discreet it's possible yeah because you know this would have a very significant impact on the base if they thought you thought I did this well bottom line Russell that's one of the reasons we're here on a Sunday afternoon see how his arms are folded up now just tells the interrogator he's in trouble and he's nervous because when you fold your arms up your clothes and yourself up psychologically okay and look at he's looking down the whole time it's not making great eye contact and and the interrogator is when a great line in there he goes well that's why we're here on a Sunday because we wanted to be discreet that's ridiculous okay because we they don't care about being discreet at this point they care about getting on but that's a great comeback if you're an interrogator right now you're thinking this is a guilty guy this guy is guilty and I'm gonna get them there's certainly one of the things that went into our decision to to give you a call at home day and see if we could deal with this today okay okay it's tough to undo the rumor moments in history it appears that even after giving police all that evidence he still thinks he might somehow be able to walk away reputation intact but the commanding officer is not the one in charge here and his body language appears to show that he knows it that DNA is going to be significant in our investigation both you know quite possibly to help you quite possibly to help us I just I don't know yet result is you notice the quick smile have mention of DNA left behind at his crime scene when Smith asks about anything he may not want his wife to know he shifts in his seat and frequently sighs is there any contact you may have had with any of those four women that you may not want your wife to be aware of anything like that that we should know about to try and explain why if if your DNA is found that that help us understand why it may be there absolutely nice methodically Smith goes over it all one more time cementing Williams categorical denial have you ever visited marie-france como at her residence no okay all right so you're quite positive there'll be no reason why your DNA would be in use those three locations okay did you know Jessica Lloyd even in passing for any reason no I didn't hurt her hear her name so it was on the news what brought Colonel Russell Williams to the attention of the police in the first place was the SUV spotted from highway 37 tonight Jessica Lloyd disappeared and the tire tracks police discovered in the field when they stopped Williams in his SUV the tires were a match now detective Smith reveals to Williams that he knows coyote howling Palfinger I think I think Toyo Gillibrand or sorry the Bates sort of the make is - oh yeah read this off you see if it rings a bell the colonel sees it coming ever heard of does Toyo open country HTS yes Smith gets Williams to deny he had ever parked the SUV with the Toyo tires in the field adjacent to Jessica Lloyd's house do you have any recollection at all of being off that road bad move okay what he sued us said was impossible couldn't happen but see you could see what's happening here he's got his arms folded and he's nodding his body language is saying yes I was there what's coming out of his mouth isn't that convincing as well because he so he is so tore up inside right now because he's thinking where did I Drive what did I do that night where was I was on northen he's trying to think five steps ahead of this guy it's just not going to happen but his whole body is indicating man am I in trouble I have a serious problem now and his firm but quiet way Jim Smith is about to make the transition from good cop too bad I told you when I came in here that I know I treat you with respect and I've asked you to do the same for me we talked about the whole idea of how we've approached you here okay the trying to be as just free as possible okay but the problem is Russell is every time I walk out of this room there's another issue that comes up okay and it's not issues that point away from you it's issues that point at you okay and I want to I want you to see what I mean all right this is the footwear impression of the person who approached the rear of Jessica Lloyd's house on the evening of the 28th and 29th of January okay detective Smith now knows as the colonel does to the prints belong to boots owned by Russell Williams this is a photocopy of the boot that you took off your foot yeah just a little while ago okay they're the boots Williams wore on january 28th the very same boots he put on to come to Ottawa police headquarters today these are identical your vehicle drove up the side of Jessica Lloyd's house your boots walked to the back of Jessica Lloyd's house on the evening of the 28th and 29th of January okay you want discretion we need to have some honesty okay because this is this is getting out of control really fast Russell okay really really fast Paul Ciolino is a former US homicide investigator and interrogation expert this is what we call a confrontation and what's the kernel doing during this he's not he's going on his dad's not nothing down that's an involuntary reaction we call but that's indicator of what's going on internally and what he's not into his holy shit it's my boot my boot print he's thought Matt might have wear the same boots to the police station today this is getting beyond my control all right I came in here a few hours ago and I called you the way I caused your day because I wanted to give you the benefit mm-hmm but you and I both know you're at Jessica Lloyd's house and I need to know why William seems frozen unwilling or unable to speak he grabs the paperwork and he's got it right now what he's doing is trying to figure out an explanation to give this guy because he knows me and I am screwed I am so screwed he's buying time and we and we call us by in time now what the detective does though is is great because a lot of detectives they'll keep talking but silence is great okay because now it becomes very uncomfortable Smith tells Williams his window for explanation is about to slam shut Russell you know there's only one option what do you what do you what other option is there well it's the ocean well I don't think you want the cold blooded psychopath option I might be wrong because I don't get me wrong I've met guys who actually kind of enjoyed the notoriety got off on it got off on having that label Bernardo being one of them I don't see that in you if I saw that in you when you'd be back in your talking to you quite frankly but maybe I'm wrong maybe you got me fooled I don't know this is over and you can have a a bad ending where Jessica's parents continue to wonder where her daughter's line I don't know I mean obviously there's a huge search still underway and it will continue that'll continue until her body's found that might even happen tonight for all I know once that happens then I don't know whether cards you would have to play what are we gonna do Smith not only wants Williams to confess but perhaps even more pressing to direct them to the body of Jessica Lloyd the silence continues for half a minute then a glimmer of hope yes only rust please you you for three and a half hours Detective Sergeant Jim Smith has maneuvered Russell Williams into one very tight corner unknown offender ma'am Danny leave France Como's body it's going to be matched to you quite possibly before the evening is over it's late Sunday afternoon and something dramatic is happening here boots walk to the back of Jessica Lloyd's house Marc Mendelsohn is a former Toronto homicide detective now a private investigator for a moment oh yeah great well done Surgical and the way you did it if you want to talk yourself out of the tire tracks go ahead talk yourself out of the boot ID area we're gonna do blame it on the gardener who stole my truck and stole my boots it's not gonna happen and you can see there's no response other than he's he's actually acknowledging yeah you're right it is identical there's no way out yes mmm this is me for a second okay now the evidence comes in when that DNA match when that phone rings and somebody knocks on this door your credibility is gone okay because this is how credibility works all right and I know you're an intelligent person and you probably don't need to hear this explanation but I also know your minds racing right now okay because outside across a lot of people in your position over the years okay the bottom line is is that as soon as we get that that piece of evidence that solidifies it mmm DNA okay Smith keeps hammering home the message if Williams wants any say whatsoever he's got to show his hand now yes okay are we good here s and then it happens a tiny crack in the Colonel's armor it's just fit somewhere we can find her easily I guess it's something where I can make a call and tell somebody to go to a location they're gonna find her or something where we have to go and take a walk the awful reality his victims had known is now sinking in for Russell Williams himself which direction are we heading in here press maybe maybe this would help can you tell me what the issue is you're struggling with we've compressed Williams many pauses some almost a minute long what's this you're struggling with it's hard to believe this is not wise why is it hard to believe just by now detective Smith my sense he's getting close Russ is there anything you want from me is there anything you want me to explain there's something missing the earth struggling with that I can shed some light on for you and finally his determination pays off but I'm struggling with how upset my life is right now breasts what are you looking for Isis earned that they're tearing apart my wife's brand-new house so am i but if nobody tells them what's there what's not they don't have much choice watch how Jim Smith now is in lockstep with Williams each mirroring the others gestures so what am i doing rest I put my best foot forward here for you but I really have I don't I don't know what else to do to make you understand the impact of what's happening here did we talk I'm minimize the impact on my wife sort of why so do we do that well we start by telling the truth what follows is another half minute of silence okay then the most remarkable moments where is she four hours 40 minutes and 10 seconds after they sat down you should close to her should this I've got maps of that general area getting Williams to view a map of the location of Lloyd's body is the turning point says interrogation expert Paul Ciolino every detective sign in this case is watching this thing on tape a live feed and order I don't see any mirrors in there but there's a camera in there clearly so they're watching it and you want to know if they're doing yes yes yes go get I mean that's what's going on outside that room but right now there's a big celebration going on because they know they own this guy right now as we said before Canadians have never seen anything like it a police investigator at the peak of his powers interrogating someone so accomplished in their career let alone a top ranking military man especially someone responsible for a criminal trail of such willful cruelty so far it's been almost 5 hours of quiet intense intellectual combat forensic psychiatrist Duncan Scott of Queen's University has met with Russell Williams weekly since his arrest watching him on on tape in the confession once he's said get the map I'll show you where Jessica Loyd is his dumped he becomes very calm it seems mm-hmm and it's got an almost matter-of-fact way of describing these terrible things just as if he would have to get up in front of tell whole bunch of people about people that have just died under his under his command and how he would have to write a letter and how he would go and talk to the individuals and keep his emotions at bay that was something that he had learned to do quite well for detective Smith the priority now is fine Jessica Lloyd which town a senior why don't we start there I'm not sure if he a map of that covers caliber and the highway yeah no we're getting tweed sounds right you see what I got here I might have something is she inside those height with the search for Jessica ongoing Smith is equipped with maps of the area around tweed where am I going on there uh I'm here to get to her in this blonde hair okay so you're pointing to and deeds no map of that area don't say where she is okay she close to a road all right um this is something where is she is she buried or if she's somewhere where if you walked are you but you would fairly easily see her it's here how long has she been there for a little over a week was a fairly quick from the time she left it's frightening Friday night yeah so where was she between Thursday night Friday night and tweet with you yeah how long was she alive for almost 24 hours not going plus you know the right thing here again my interested he knows to this guy other than his military career his wife is everything what he's thinking I got 600 pairs of people's underwear in my house and my wife is gonna be out of her mind how do I want the TVs out in front of our house for the next two years do I want to destroy in and ripping up the house what can I do to make this better it's a horrific bargain belated consideration for his wife in exchange for information about where he dumped the body of a young woman he brutalized and killed almost matter-of-factly he then reveals where police can find the digital memory cards in which he keeps the photographs he takes of his victims while he tortures sexually assaults and kills them and whose images among those hurt I have erased them but I expect to be able to draw images of just don't worry there may be images on there as well and the tailor from September detective Smith comes back to the question of where to find Jessica William says she's exactly 0.7 kilometres from a certain intersection how far off the road is she forty feet should be if she covered with anything she's wrapped up in was on the surface just agree very the obvious question I'm gonna have for you is when they go there they'll be there shortly they're gonna find her early the next morning February 8th police recovered Jessica Lloyd 0.7 kilometers from the intersection exactly where Russell William said she would be for detective Jim Smith the hard part is over but now the really hard part begins the terrible litany of all that Williams has done I put tape on her mouth how the dancers can breathe it is Sunday evening February 7 in the interview room at Ottawa Police Headquarters the tension has broken Russell Williams now ready to confess what you're about to hear is sexual violent and could very well be disturbing well do you want to work forwards or backwards why don't we start with Jessica how does that start for you it happened ten days earlier whenever Colonel Williams went from CFB Trenton to his cottage in tweed he drove right by the house where Jessica Lloyd lived it recently caught sight of her working out as he passed by I saw her in her house what's genetics and I noticed she wasn't they're Thursday so you got a new house look around then and they left does she come home so I might pack him it's really back patio door while she was slippin so I woke her up didn't end in here here once Friday night while he assaulted Lloyd his SUV sat in the field next to her house his biggest mistake afterwards he drove her to his cottage in Tweed to continue the attack well so I raped her in in her house and then I took her to the car to her to treat and spent the day in Tweed and I hit her as we were walking she thought we were leaving here at the back William says the flashlight with which he hit her did more damage than he expected well I was surprised at her her skull gave way William says while Jessica Lloyd was unconscious he strangled her with a rope and left her body in his garage while he drove to Trenton van to Ottawa for a weekend with his wife he returned to the cottage on Tuesday and took Lloyd to the spot where she would be found the following week again his tone in describing a beautiful young woman in her final moments his stunningly matter-of-fact it's a similar story when he recounts the last night of Marie Frost Como's life at her home in Brighton Ontario she was under his command at CFB Trenton and apparently it caught Williams aye her house was 50 kilometers in the wrong direction from his cottage at tweed but it visited before when she was gone then came back entering through a basement window so when she spotted me and the same flashlight I subdued her tied up upstairs and strangled her later than one upstairs Williams also raped and photographed her though he was Como's commanding officer his head and face recovered and she didn't recognize he decided to kill her anyway did you take anything out of refrences house for Jessica Louise house yeah some of their okay detective Jim Smith seems surprised to learn how much of their underwear Williams took sixty pieces are some Hall limits 60 pieces of theirs of hoops of Jessica's and many friends so you took sixty pieces from between the toilet yeah okay next the detective moves on to the two sexual assaults in Williams neighborhood and tweed one victim lived just a few doors away from his cottage as she's described that she was asleep at home when she was surprised by an intruder he blindfolded tied her up cut off her clothes choked beat sexually assaulted and photographed for two and a half hours Williams recounts it somewhat differently I did have the flashlight subdued earth I would our foreclose took some pictures left he told much the same story about the other sexual assault like almost everyone else detective Smith searches for Williams motivation why do you think these things happen have you spent much time thinking about that about why yeah yeah but the answers and I'm pretty sure the answers don't matter I mean let me ask you this did you like or dislike these women I didn't know any of them that may be as close to truth as we can get that he had no feelings at all for the women he raped and murdered even Jessica Lloyd whom he held captive for the last day of her life can you tell me why you killed her right do you know why you killed it well I think I killed her because I knew that her story would be recognized her story would be recognized how do you mean well cause she knew I was taking pictures he says he worried Lloyd's case would be tied to the two assaults in Tweed Williams also took photographs as for corporal marie-france gloma he rationalized he had to kill her because she was stationed at CFB Trenton well I was pretty sure that you know she was serving military right and we've been difficult for investigators to ignore that connection for marie-france komal perhaps the ultimate obscenity is that after everything else when she took her last breath Williams recorded it on video as for Jessica Lloyd Williams bought her cooperation by promising if she did what he said she would get her freedom no no she just didn't profess did she try and negotiate with you at all what did she say well I told her that I would let her go there but after humiliating and raping her and recording it on video Williams murdered her too and how did you know she was dead she her body stopped doing it is after midnight now Monday February 8th when the door of interrogation room 216 closes behind Russell Williams for the last time in a few hours police would locate the body of Jessica Lloyd after that they would make their shocking announcement arrested Russell Williams 46 of tweed for first-degree murder he's a lousy lousy lousy adept at murdering people and and setting itself up I think that says this is a horrible forensic psychiatrist Duncan Scott of Queens University consults with the detention facility where Williams was held he's met with him since his arrest and he's not surprised the addiction to sex and murder led so far so fast miss spinning out of control and that's what I'm trying to say about being messy and what he was doing he wasn't really planning it was just going on it was if it happened in front of him it was kind of meant to be and the urges were so overwhelming and the rush knowing what he's going to be getting from that was again so overwhelming from that thirst unquenchable for him dr. Scott says as a murderer Williams is unique academia is out the window at this time there's no sample group of these types of individuals there's no FBI huge base rate that we can sample and find out whether where this goes back to or whether there's something in vitro here or in utero and and something happened doing is upbringing or some horrible trauma that occurred to him they're gonna be finding that but he says he does know one thing that if Williams hadn't been stopped he wouldn't have stopped himself after watching the confession Russell Williams longtime and loyal friend Jeff Farquhar is now also convinced of that it's just shocking is not a word that even comes close he is I've had a tough time understanding how he might be portrayed as a serial killer and a sexual predator but now I realized that he's the worst of the bunch and to try and understand that to try and put that in context with Russ who I've known for close to thirty years just as I said before it doesn't add up and not only does it not add up but he's a bigger monster than any buddy I've heard or read about and it's like I say shocking doesn't even begin to cover it it's disgusting at all what to say you know honestly I'm really at a loss for words and that's what scares me so much is that my god he really is maybe a psychopath chief OPP investigator Chris Nicholas it was an excellent piece of police work on behalf of Jim Smith who conducted this interview or the best interviews I've ever seen and it's it's a smart man being outsmarted by a smarter man it may be even better than that according to us interrogation expert Paul Ciolino because let me tell you what's going to happen this tape will be played in every interrogation course in the world English speaking one and probably the other ones as how to do it this guy is doing it this is classic before it ends one of detective Jim Smith's final questions to Russell Williams reveals exactly what was at stake this didn't come to the point it's out right now whatever reason you didn't up are on our radar so to speak do you think it would have happened again I was hoping not I can't you

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