Ruger American Vs Savage Axis | Which is Better and WHY?

hello there and welcome back to bulgebucks my name is steven bresnaugh and today we're going to do savage access versus ruger american which one is better let's find out so 200 yards beautiful at the rear so the recoil pad on the savage access ah it's stiff it's got holes or venting in it um it's stiff it's not too firm but it's not too smushy either it's kind of in between now let's go to the ruger american i real smushy real smushy um you know i just like the feel and the softness of the ruger american better and having shot both which we will show here in a little bit on this video in the field i feel like this one the ruger americans reduces recoil a bit more moving forward you have a polymer stock feels hollow here in the back let's try and see now i do have a cheek rest on this one but there's a tie there as far as the polymer involved i don't feel one polymer is better than the other with these they both are very very close and very similar in that way um both just cheap polymer stocks moving forward to the trigger guard um it is plastic and it is a separate piece from the stock on the savage so i guess if it broke you could replace just the uh trigger guard possibly on the savage which might be better um yeah on the ruger it's just plastic built into one piece into the stock but both are plastic so pretty much the same thing there now moving forward to the magazine let's go back to the savage access now this has a polymer bottom but stamped metal sides on the savage axis it has like a push button release design here it's pretty robust but it is plastic um and it looks like it has a plastic follower um you know having used it it works fine it's it's a staggered stacking but and it's not rotary it's not bad and it works so nothing really bad to say there let's see how it goes in and out okay so it takes a little bit of like thought to put this in it's like it's it's pretty intuitive it's pretty easy um but it's not quite probably as easy as a ruger let's check it out here in a second it does lock firmly in place and it doesn't have a lot of wiggle on it it looks nice now let's go to the ruger american alright so this one's a little bit more flush it does stick out just a little bit on the rear looks like it is a rotary very small compact magazine now one thing that i like is this one holds four and this ruger or excuse me in this savage only holds three so this is actually 270 and the savage is a 6'5 creedmoor and this ruger american actually holds one more round in the mag the downside is too this tab is really chintzy and flimsy i'm not sure how that would hold up in the long run but it seems to work fine so far in testing it has all plastic components except for looks like metal springs so um i would like to see more metal in this but at the same time it works beautifully i haven't had any issues yet so it does seem to go into place just a touch easier it's it's a little harder to get your finger on the tab to release it so i would say putting it in places is just it feels so natural it feels so good it's so easy to put this in it just it just seems to want to go in it's crazy um probably because the rotary design and how it's curved to just slide right in place getting it out maybe just a touch harder than the savage but i i i gotta say overall i actually do like the the design and the fact that it can hold four rounds um better than the uh savage design on the axis now let's take a look at the forend of these stocks here i mean they're so similar um they're both free-floated quite a bit of wiggle though if you put any kind of pressure on the forend of this stock it makes contact with the barrel let's see i don't have a bipod on this so it's a little harder okay so i would say it's a little bit slightly more rigid on the ruger american not a lot but i would say the foreign slightly more rigid than on the savage axis now let's go ahead and take a look at the safety both have a tang safety right here at the rear um this one feels really cheap it doesn't really stick out it's it's easy to use it has a red dot to indicate that it's on fire at the rear but it's just kind of i don't know if you can hear that if there's a lot of slop in it and let's go back to the ruger american now this safety is raised here so you can catch it with your finger a lot easier and not slip off of it has a red f at the back to say that it's on it has a red f here to indicate that it's on fire unsafe it has a black s stamped into the metal here um it does seem like it has metal underneath the button itself is plastic but there's no wiggle there's no slop in it it's a little bit louder but you can manipulate it slow definitely feel like the safety um itself as far as the button you can call it uh is is better so the tank safety on the ruger american just seems to have a higher quality than on the savage axis um one thing you'll note here is on the savage access which i've already made sure this is empty multiple times as there when this metal piece is out it's indicating that the firing pin is is ready to go it's loaded it's cocked when you release the trigger that goes forward so it has a [ __ ] indicator built into the rear of the bolt double check and make sure that one's empty one more time here on the savage there is a piece of metal that sticks out directly out of the back of the bolt and so you can use that as a [ __ ] indicator but it's a little bit harder to see especially in low light coming forward to the receiver um the receiver is milled flat on the side of the or at least on this side of the receivers to shed weight which is nice it's held in with a barrel nut so it's easy to change out the barrels it has a lot of machining marks on the outside of it but let's see here and compare it to the ruger american um you know this one has machining marks too i just feel like when you look at it you just if it feels and looks like this it feels it looks like the one that is on the savage is like a piece of bar stock that was machined whereas this one's forged it just has better lines to it and seems a little bit thicker and more robust it's like a more robust looking receiver looks a little bit higher quality but really i would say you know they both function just fine now let's take a look at the actual bolt to release the bolt on the uh savage you have to depress a little tab here on the side of the stock and the bolt and excuse me and depress the trigger and then the bolt comes out just like that on the ruger american it has a bolt release on this side of the receiver let me see if i can show you it better right here you depress that and the bolt comes right out the bolt release on the ruger american just has the feel of being higher quality it's less complicated you don't have to press the trigger and this bolt release tab down and it just it's just better okay let's just say it in my opinion is is far better um in in simpler and better design than the savage axis now let's take a look at the bolt on the savage axis um it is two lug design has a extractor and plunger ejector um the extractor is built into the lug on the bolt and it has a free-floating bolt head which can can contribute to a rifle being more accurate coming it is a 90 degree bolt throw by the way on the savage coming to the ruger wow i mean look at the size difference and this is a 270. so the ruger american bolt is just a massive hunk of badass i mean this thing is heavy duty it's rugged it doesn't look like it would ever break it does have an extractor built into the recoil lug but it has three excuse me into the bolt log it has three lugs and those three logs allow this bolt to only need 70 degrees of lift to be manipulated so you only have to manipulate this 70 degrees and the savage is 90. so if you have a very low mounted scope or if you want to just have a little bit tiny easier manipulation of the bolt or maybe a little bit faster this one should inherently do that for you it has less bolt lift required to operate the bolt um like i said the biggest advantage is going to be if you have a scope that's mounted really low with a big objective um or eye box the savage may hit it the bolt handle may hit it whereas on the ruger it shouldn't so i would say the quality of the bolt is better on the ruger american both have machining marks i would say the machining the finished job of machining on the savage is better and it does have this cool little you know savage on it um it's it definitely seems cleaner like they they've polished it and it's just much cleaner machining job though than on the ruger american it kind of has a zipper uh machining marks on it the bolt shroud on the ruger american is plastic and the way this in the bolt handle is one piece it goes all the way through the other side the bowl handle is very heavy duty well made but i hate the way the firing pin comes out of the ruger american it's very complicated it's some it you can do without special tools but it's a lot easier with special tools it's definitely harder than a howa 1500 it's definitely however than a remington 700 um it's definitely harder than a tikka so kind of a pain to take apart the bolt on the river american it's it's a little bit easier on a savage but once again it's not great let's see how they run running it comes up very easily it hits a really hard wall and then it unlocks comes back wow that's really smooth i gotta say man savages run really smooth as far as back and forth in the receiver that is for a sub 400 rifle that's smooth i mean it catches a little bit but that is pretty smooth um i would say the lift right there it's i call it the savage secondary catch it's like you lift and then most bolt actions have that but it's just not as noticeable now let's go through the ruger american here a lot less lift and i would say it's easier to lift it's a lot louder though come back ooh i mean significantly louder and just a little bit more gritty feeling let's see if it can pass the glide test barely not really it doesn't really want to slide back unless you really get a good jerk so i mean it operates just fine the bolt lift is definitely better being 70 versus 90 degrees the bolt uh unlocks up or comes out of battery easier but the actual sliding back and forth is definitely smoother on the savage axis the ruger american barrel this one happens to be 22 inches if you get the predator version it's also 22 inches but it's a heavier contour it's i believe this is a contour number two and it's a cold hammer forge it's very accurate so ruger americans are known for being very accurate for their price point um i believe the savage is button rifled if i'm correct and um so they're both very accurate just one is different than the other i'm not going to get into which one's better than the other you there you know there's pluses minuses to both now let's go ahead and take the uh barreled actions out of the receivers and actually see what the difference is in batting and how they work so this is the savage axis and much like a tikka t3x we have a piece of metal in the stock here that acts as the recoil lug against the receiver of the rifle now it also does have metal pillar bedding in here so as metal pillar bedding and a metal recoil lug that is separate from the receiver i personally do not like that i i like having the recoil lug be part of the receiver but you just don't see that on these cheaper rifles usually now you'll see the reinforcing in the uh savage is kind of just a crossways this way and crossways this way it's not like an x like it is on the ruger american which you'll see in a second the stock flexes quite a bit of course it comes with a front rear swivel sling stud as well as the ruger american does that kind of goes without saying now let's take a look at the ruger american stock all right so you have x reinforcement here and it is more rigid bedding that ruger advertises it's basically a v bedding um it looks like aluminum goes through all this metal all the way through where the action screws go and that butts up right against the receiver in the front in the rear um definitely a lot better betting system than the savage access more consistent more repeatable less chances of it being shifted or moved like in this thing if this comes loose or if this shifts that can uh cause huge accuracy issues in your rifle whereas if you have two pieces like this embedded in there and they are just a lot bigger and heftier and they go right into the action screw area i just think that's a lot better bedding system let's take a look and i'll show you here this is where those v bedding aluminum blocks go on the ruger american they tuck right into those grooves on the receiver holding it firmly in place on the savage that one recoil lug so essentially the ruger america has two recoil lugs built into where the action screws go on the ruger american on the savage access excuse me you have uh basically just this bar stock receiver where it's milled out um and you can actually see the threads of the barrel for the barrel threads inside there and that's where the recoil looks sits quite shallowly so just not a not a great system there so now let's take a look at the triggers you have the trigger on the savage access now this is not the accu trigger really the only big difference is that it has a blade in it and the accu trigger and a little bit different mechanism and is of course adjustable on the savage access it has this big spring at the rear and so on so forth i do not care at all this is held on with a pen and i just do not care at all how this triggers design it works fine but it's very open there's lots of areas for dust and dirt and things to go wrong but we'll talk more about how they actually feel compared to each other here in a second now the ruger american comes with an adjustable trigger um that adjusts i think three to six pounds now i try to adjust this much many many times and i couldn't adjust below three and a quarter pounds it looks you know has the middle blade it's a single stage trigger um the housing on this is incredible it's it's much more robust than even the accu trigger um and just the design and materials user i i feel higher quality than the accu trigger however the actual functionality and how it feels is not any better than the accu trigger has an adjustable set screw here in the front the savage axis which is what i have not the xs2 which really the only difference is going to be the accu trigger is a single stage trigger as well but it it comes from the factory about four pounds and you can't really adjust it unless you uh reduce the spring which i do not recommend so now that we've gone over that let's go ahead put them back in the stock and like i was saying earlier the trigger guard is a separate piece on the savage axis which if you look right here this has to take your recoil right here and it's a very thin flimsy spot i could see this definitely being an easy spot for this this stock to break um so is it nice that you could replace the trigger guard if it broke and not have to replace the whole stock yes but i feel like you're taking chances with the uh integrity of the stock with you have that separate piece there all right so let's go over and see how these triggers actually feel compared to each other although make sure to confirm this is empty i already did that off camera before the season started okay all right a noticeable amount of creep and a little bit of grip before it goes off um barely any over travel though i i really like the heat that there's not a lot of over travel but it does have a pretty noticeable creep um like i said uh after adjustment it broke at three and a quarter pounds before adjustment it broke at three and a half pounds now let's try this savage access now i understand that you can get the savage axis too for probably the same price point as the ruger american so take this for what it is let's make sure it's empty i'm going to put a trigger gauge on this one because i don't know for sure where it's going to break three and a half pounds so uh three and a half pounds on the savage axis and three and a quarter pounds on the river american a lot of creep a lot way more creep on the savage access now the accutrigger no i would say the savage accu trigger and the ruger marksman trigger are are equal but the regular axis trigger i would say has way more creeping over travel and grit than the river american both come in now now that we've gone over all of the feel and so on uh the finishes on both are matte black i mean they both seem resistant to rust and corrosion about equally um you know they come in tons of different calibers um you got uh plenty to choose from different types of models as well so different models and calibers there's lots of combinations out there the savage access comes in at a weight of 6.3 pounds and the ruger american comes in at weight at 6.2 pounds so really close there um the mega capacity is four on the ruger american and three on the savage access the overall length is 42.5 inches on the savage axis and it's 42.5 inches on the ruger american they are very similar rifles i just feel like ruger does a little thing a couple things better the the materials used and uh design i feel like are just better on the ruger american and the fact that they just shoot lights out they do a great job um but you know what they're both great rifles the the savage axis ii uh and the ruger american are both great rifles just remember if you get the regular savage access it won't have the accutrigger hope you enjoy this video i look forward to hearing back from you in the comment section you

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Length: 22min 56sec (1376 seconds)

Published: Sat Nov 21 2020