Rio Ferdinand | Full Address & Q&A | Oxford Union

all right I don't think it how you do very good very good well I you like to talk fast about leadership or would like to start off with our with questions yeah I'll start off if you want that's no problem in fact first of all thank you very much for forever me here so it's a huge honor privilege to have been invited to such a place a kid on his state a Cassidy state could never imagine being been invited to as you start to be honest the last since I was asked to come I've kind of a I've been up at various times of the night worrying very nervous thinking about what can I speak to what can I speak to you guys about what kind of what bits of information can I give you guys and I was thinking but nothing was coming to me I'm from an estate young guy done done fairly well in in the profession I took up what can well come with where can we go enough it just come to me while about two days ago I just thought the only bit of common ground that we've we've got with each other is being the elite so now I can walk in there and confidence add a little bounce on the way in a little swagger because I felt comfortable because we are dearly i was the elite in my in my profession you guys the elite deliver what you're doing where you are in education and so for me I always knew from a young age that I wanted to be the best I wanted to be at the best place Maggie night was the best club and I wanted to get there and it was about setting myself targets that's all I ever done as a kid from when I was probably 13 14 years old was set targets and our work number was set to August during a season if I attained them targets early I've set new ones straight away because I had a fear of complacency at a fear of failure a fear of complacency a fear of people saying RV's he's got to his limit he's got to that's as far as he's gonna go so I set the target and then it was all about having clarity about how to get there what am I going to do and when I used to go into a change room I'd really kind of pick out and find that I try and work out who the best trainers were he would have the most efficient in what they'd done and I've done that all my all my food stages of growing up and it was it was weird I went to lead United from West Dam for a small amount of money and then I became the captain within a couple of months a big Club leads in Yorkshire and I was in that change room the other players looked to you is that the captain you take the bull by the horns and then I went to the World Cup in Japan played ok so Alex Ferguson's decided he wanted to to take me to Manchester United which was part of a dream really because my dream not wasn't necessary playing for Man United my dream was to be successful was to win I wasn't worried about I didn't start playing football for money I didn't start playing football for the lavish lifestyle all the stuff that we have now on social media with the access to see what these sport stars or celebrities can can amass on the way to being superstars we didn't have that I had videotapes of players and it was all about what they'd done on the pitch and so that's what that's where my inspirations were and that's what I wanted to be I wanted to be that guy on the pitch so I signed form a knighted and I've gone from a captain of Leeds United running that dressing room to go into Manchester United and it's all about working out what you need to be great so if I go into Manchester United dressing room from Leeds I became a student straightaway I became a listener a sponge to them other players who have one who know how to win I didn't know how to win I have no trophies at that point so I walked into that dressing room like all my moralist naked because I felt embarrassed at times I looked around and thought he's got more than me Ryan Giggs has got five lead medals on my gosh can't look at him Beck's has got four skulls he's got three or four Roy Keynes got four or five Ravana store as a great plugin for twenty odd million said over on a world superstar from from Argentina played in Italy and great teams and I was looking around and just thinking for nerves it went to right how is he got there how's he got there and how is he got it and what am I going to do to get past them so then it's all about sacrifice I'm getting him before him Sir Alex Ferguson he was in London in a training training training round before anyone everyday he was in there 7:30 on the dot every day he's nowhere again at 7:30 we didn't start till 10:00 so no everything that would've been a bit too busy but I was getting there one of the first two or three people in that training ground and making sure that I was going to be out working any rival was had in my position in that team let any other players know I'm serious and then once I was in there it was about your work ethic also been it in what you do doing the right thing you're not just in the units are I'm here I'm just enjoying it enjoying the moment a lot of players at Maine United like here and in the next phase of your career you can get into there to the place that you dreamed of you can get there it's great getting there but how do you stay there as you maintain levels how do you mean consider consistency that's what it's all about it's not about getting it again there's not the easy part but the easier part getting to my United I had a good World Cup played okay the manager saw me right he's going to spend X amount of money to buy you I've seen it with 10 20 30 players and time wasn't Maine United they turn up and they go where I was right now the fight starts and I say you gotta being all to laugh you can't just get to where you want to think you're going to be on that roller coaster and stay on there and that's it you've got to earn the right to stay there and believe there were times when I was I was kind of just sat there and thinking wow this is hard work at the beginning my first year who won the league the first year and that's like you get to the top of the mountain and you think wow what an achievement that is but then we have three years where we want nothing and I had to believe in the manager he said to me listen trust me is this a transition period trust me stay on the stay with stay with it we'll get back and you need to trust a leader at some times he's earned the right to have that trust which we did but at the same time after that we continue winning we go to Moscow and this little story it's kind of about like am i weird or a bit of a lunatic I don't know but I think when you get to the top to maintain and stay he's got to be an element of madness a little bit but you've got to be a person that's driven completely all the time eaten you get to a certain area you win the biggest thing which is a Champions League that's the big that was the holy grail for me how am I ever going to win this I got not time to semies quarters so close we should have won this should have won that never happened I was beginning to think is this team never going to do it because Ronaldo is looking it's in the papers he's looking to leave if we lose him we're getting to the final again maybe all them questions go around in your head we finally won it crazy emotions if you could bottle that that's it billionaires the hitters it's crazy but I remember going into the change into the change room celebrate and enjoying get back to the banqueting-hall we've got a banquet in Romania in Moscow all the families are there all the friends are there who's travelled dem journeys with you and the CEO at a time David Gill and the coach Carlos Carroll's came up to me congratulating me Hayden what do you think the first thing I said to him would you think any idea enough that would have been one of them it wouldn't have been said like that but yeah but yeah definitely was tired but no the first thing I said to him was like mr. Gildea blah blah who we signing makes season who'll be getting I need to know who were getting before I can enjoy this pie and he looked at me to say what was wrong with you I mean but I only look back now looking back and think that's because I was so driven about next season I needed that comfort in that room to know that listen these guys are serious about going on to the next level I didn't want to win it once I wanted to get back to the final again we got back to the final the next two years three years on the spin we wanted to leave back to back for four years you can't do that without having driven players in your team with desire who make sacrifices and I think any any level of any business any sport you got a squad of people a group of people knitted together like that they were going to sacrifice for each other and I mean along the way you find different different types of leaders I'm a type of person who would identify people for a change room I would have sat there and watch people and are looking to work out individuals traits had had a responder to being gripped up a bit and and shouted out and being aggressive with God there are players that don't mind that Christiano Ronaldo used to want to be tested all the time used to used to we used to have him in a changing week because he could wind him up so easy because he was so intent on being the best and that me and a couple of other guys used to having a bit of string on a regular basis in the chain Germany he was obviously the number seven came in and wore number 7 shirt which takes big yeah to do that club that man United and I remember saying to him a few times like we just wind him up with her and we could he know he's in the year shot so he'd be saying up that Beck's was like the proper number seven when he's like the real he's the real deal like them the model and stuff like that he was the man and you'd see him in the College of blowing up were you talking about but that was like and he began that was he stimulant almost to be going out and training harder and working harder not just that that's just one kind of thing or usually saying that Beck's textbook the best free kicks in the world at the moment and you it'd be at free kick free kick free kick but he was them but that's what I'm saying that to get to a level of in the top in any form of sport or business I think you need that drive and determination and that will will to win but yeah I would be able to put quite personal Cajal one if someone is screaming out I was quite willing to do that within the changer and more out on the pitch or listen come on sort yourself out calm calm calm collected small bit sound bytes of information so they went out onto the pitch really really focused and understanding what to do because I wasn't really a believer yet sometimes especially my younger days of England so you going with England as a kid and it's the pressure you think I'm playing for England it all kind of gets you you don't have to deal with pressure at a time and you've got a manager in the change room given you on a board ridiculous amount of information where to be on free kicks corners where you want you to be on the pitch when the balls in that position where you want you to be on a pitch when the balls here there's so much information and go into four pitch let alone worrying about your nerves I used to go on there frazzled thinking world's house used to think if I'm going to be captain or whatever I'm telling people small bits of clear advice quick clear stuff they can go out do sometimes maybe a couple of words and I see it like for instance Wayne I should just shake his on every game shoot on sight shoot on sight and then in the game if he try to do some little bit of mad skill and lost the boy didn't you I'll be screaming behind and I could I've see him these hedges guy and red eggs bro he want to just hammer me but and there was other types of leaders he had working he was very volatile and it just depended some days on the Moody was in he could come in and you'd walk past him and be blah Hyder what's kind of big the center of all of other jokes and stuff like that and other days it just more partial and in other days he'd call a meet and say listen you I'm working hard enough dis on so there you're not working off what you think you're doing or for instance on the first one of the first days are trained that United I've come in the balls come to me I pass the ball out to Gary Neville with a rap back it was on my team for yet first pass the transition good quite nervous is my new club 30 million pana just spent on me by the way and then I passed the ball to a teammate carries on going and then working standing there just like God well yeah screaming at me I'm stood there gone what are you talking about I've possible - Gary Neville my teammate that's what I meant to do you went you're not a Leeds or West am now at May night we take risks you want to be a winning you take risks but not like those calm ears out obviously so he went he was going screaming I went away for a couple of weeks I swear it took me a couple of weeks to digest it I was thinking you don't like me he's mad long enough to have her out with him and then it dawned on me that he was right at a top level with details in the final third throughout the team you've got to take risks to win the big tournaments to be the best you've got to take an element of risk and then you had the likes of David Beckham as a leader in a change room rarely said anything but led by example on the pitch you to get to the World Cup he put in a performance against Greece Old Trafford for England was up there one of the best individual performances I played alongside from England probably the best it was phenomenal he was he was all over the pitch the amount of energy that he left out and that pitch was phenomenal but he wasn't a talker he wouldn't come around changing training grand order to change rooms and grab you and say listen come on we're going to get over win this game today or anything like that it was more about making sure he was right and then everybody's seen his example on the training pitch or on the pitch itself and then you have Fergie who was a we had the hairdryers true it was quite explosive at times and I was I was at the end of it a few times I have my hair dried but he was um he was great at actually seeing people he was great are actually looking at you and identifying what makes you tick for instance myself I was me and Emmanuel sit for four hours in the steam room together sounds funny but we would sit we would sit together and just chill and just talk over stuff and and center-backs it's like that the senate falls a lot of pop stars ask defenders are the one that put the hard yards in and get no credit right and so we sit down and go I can't believe that Fergie does all these interviews and lat he's boosting up Christiano he's boosting up Wayne and Carlos Tevez etc and like that we've kept about 15 clean sheets in the last lap 20 games what's going on he's not even mentioned us but we are sitting it went on Eataly left and he looked back and I realized and speaking to him simply to say listen if I give you if I've given you the kind of adulation and the respect and the credit in the media your personality was that of someone who could come in and kind of think that they've made it and it's done which was when I look back now was probably true not true I would have still had that kind of inner personal pride to perform but I could have made we let things slip a little bit thinking that the manager respects me no wrong about I'm cool I can go work as hard in in some training sessions and linear level drops so he always had me on my toes wanting to prove him wrong approve him that I was capable and I was the best and so that's just him identifying something in someone's personality as a leader to make him tick and he's done that all through the team I mean when I first got there he was a lunatic he used to kill people Giggsy no matter who it was he had a hammer him but as the time went on while I was there for 12 years at the time went on he became a little bit more Placid and he's like it's like I look at my dad with my little sisters I got younger sisters were 12 and stuff and he's so much more plastic with them but times change and I think to myself in a change room my dad would dig must with my sisters and in a change in with Fergie I think I would never have got away with that but because times changing the environment now is different there's a lot of foreigners especially in change under now because and they've been brought up a different way of different cultures to us England in England some of us are use over here to being showered out and drilled or as over there they're kind of brought up a little bit differently and he's actor and that's a sign of a great leader he'd been able to adapt two different generations two different people from different cultures and he was dowser one of he's one of his best best traits but also since he left when david moyes came it was a big time for me to be able to look at different leaders and how they work on how they react in situations and it wasn't until Sir Alex Ferguson left that you could really underlies these stuff because when you're playing under a manager like that he is so intense he keeps you in a bubble and you don't really look outside so winning Manchester United and applying yourself every day and having that work ethic to come in every day and really really really put yourself for it and improve everyday was almost like autopilot in the end because we had it that way and so when David Moyes came in you could see was left left there kind of weighing it up who's doing this bear who's doing that bear and I think delegating was one of the biggest differences and one of the biggest things that he was great at so Alex Ferguson in that he allowed people to work in their area within the club that he was running he gave them that responsibility to be able to go and run your sports science area you go and run the sports and conditioning area you go and run the kitchen you gone and Manchester United the commercial department is like a juggle the training Granick Carentan turns into like a media compound for the day after training for about five or six hours and all the players have to go there and do all of the commercial activities with the different sponsors he didn't have a partner you would never know it but he just used to say to my feeling I don't want to know what's going on all I want to know is when we're training and when we're not you take care of all of that wasn't david moyes came in and I'm not sure many people would have done it with any different but he took all around he took the responsibilities of the commercial activity and I remember on Tory went this is unbelievable the size of this you'd never know really until you're in in the walls of million right how big it is then you're talking about doing all the meetings about the opposing opponents of the week and you're talking about doing the analysis you're talking about looking at the sports science area coaching out on the pitch preparing the coaches looking at the earth the coaching sessions after the videos there's a lot to do and for a manager to do that was one of david moyes biggest problems and problem mistakes and I'm sure he would probably be a first person to hold his hand up to that and I don't blame him for it because it's difficult coming into a huge place like Manchester United to deal with that but that's where I sort of strengthened Sir Alex Ferguson in an in debt delegating and making sure that people were given responsibility and the confidence to go ahead them and do stuff make mistakes but learn but still have the same mentality of going forward and direction to win because everything was built around around success so I think I've spoken for a long time again I really would really say thank you very much for having me if you've got any more questions you want to elaborate on and anything that you've seen over the years hit me well thank you very much for you I'll [ __ ] off for the few patience thank you very much I'll start with a few and then we'll first open to the audience to carry on I don't take my coat off easily seriously I've never been this nervous in my life I've played in stage and lots of people but this has killed it so and you mentioned a few times your transfer from Leeds to Manchester United which at the time made you the most expensive defender in the world I believe was 34 million including add-ons from Lisa Mona its years something like that so with the Addams it would have gone up because we won a lot so I guess my first question is and we're you worth that much yeah now listen is really if I think we all know that understanding in football there's so much money nowadays it's a billion-dollar industry and the players who are part of that entertainment are going to get paid handsomely for it the club's earn a lot of money therefore the players they can earn a lot of money and we we understand that as players we enjoy it obviously but it's a it is just part and parcel of that industry that you're in very fortunate that we chose that fortunate other industry to play in the a who you can't say who is he worth that my own money in the going rate in in football yeah I was more than worth it I'd say and as a Man City fan and a more than enough about how much money it has a I don't know I've actually ended up I can't get out of the car and come into Oxford University that Endermen City fan greeted me other you almost want in the boot but you think it's a shame how much influence money does have in the modern game do you think there should be any sort of limits or controls on the amount of money clubs can spend yeah I think if you look at the world today the amount of money that's going through football is crazy but at the same time the football clubs like I said a running crazy money the Premier League rights for the TV rights have just gone for over it or more or less a billion pounds and it's just it's phenomenal really but I think we all see Aaron say some firemen policemen nurses etc are much more worthy of earning that type of money but again you you can't get away from the fact that this is an industry that this pays great money but having a cap on it yeah I think young the especially the young generation the young kids that come through at football clubs when I came through slammer first whiteysd which now they call it a scholar I was on twenty nine pound a week plus expenses and them expenses went a long way but it was it wasn't until probably I was two years after that when I would have made me nineteen years old where I started learning into the thousands a week but nowadays a sixteen seventeen year-old is into the thousands before they've even kicked a ball for the first team and you see kids at Chelsea there's kids at Chelsea that have not played more than two or three games some even played in the first team 125 grand a week had you actually have a kid who's on 25 grand a week at 17 years old how'd you actually get that kid to go out there every day and training and try and improve and try and better himself he's a millionaire more less already he say it's him and his family up he needs to have that drive and determination some kids just haven't got it in them and if you give it to him too early they're never going to have it so there needs to be an element of still reaching to get to that area the end of the rainbow type thing because I just think the kids nowadays there's too much too soon again they're in cotton wool it's a different environment they're brought up in but the hard the hard not saying had a hard life growing up in a football club but there was a lot more men in them training grounds who were allowed to run a dressing room whereas now I'm a United for instance if I said to her kidness and go and get my boots they're in the boot room I need my boots please he looked me up and down like I was a Martian they would because they pardon I'm on 25 grand a week mate don't know what to do that's the way these kids are taught act now whereas when I was a kid I was actually a boot boy and I sound like an old man here talking down to the next generation based of fact I was that was a part of my respect that's part of my I wanted to be out at the boot room I didn't want to ask Tony Cottee Westown striker he was like the main man at West Ham I was his boot boy and I member been in the training round on one of my space and all our housings I've got clean these boots that buff these boots up they were shining I was on heat on the peg in the boot room and the first team would go into the into the boot room and actually get their boots and then go out and I heard him screaming my name where's 13 and fat man guy and now into the into the lunch area so I've walked out young 17 year old yeah and he went where's my boots I thought to wear but he said where's my boots where's my training kit with my tracksuit I said was your boots hanging out where they all the other people's boots are he said no every day from now on I want my boots underneath my spot where I'll get changed I said no I'm in he just started screaming again from that day he's boots and his training kit was under his peg but that's respect that you have to earn you have to get by doing things for the older players they run that dressing room you call just walk into a change when back then you couldn't just go into the change room and think that you can go and sit down or get a drink out of the first team change room you got on the right to gain that change of mastery performance that's through training hard that's making games in the reserves and in getting in the first team and incoming the change room and in the acceptor now they don't need the acceptance they don't need it so it's difficult when I think in a long run it makes it harder for them because they're not and they're not used to the bumpy roads they're not they don't have Mumby roads growing up as a as a kid they're feral about there's coaches that go to each school pick him up and take him to training I don't understand that ice to finish training I'd hang around in my mates for 20 minutes but then I knew it was a bus out to go on I just gone 4 o'clock I had to get that bus because if I didn't get that bus I've missed my next one which would put me late for my next tube and then my other tube and then the Train and then my next two buses at the other end diets again which would take me two hours if I done it if I done it right and I never missed them buses but that was part of getting me ready efficiency getting me ready punch all four first-team football and obviously to get to the top level you do have to start training at such a young age and you know sacrifice often academic work sacrifice other activities and do you think it's ethical to kind of hunt out and train young kids from such an early age then pigeonhole them into a certain career where it might not end up working out they might get injured they might just not be picked I never left without her an option from here but that's why I think education is a huge part of football which they could integrate a lot more I think I was lucky my dad said to me in my last year at school if you don't get minimum five ATC's you ain't going football and so I was scared obviously I had to revise that to do to work a bit harder by I was always well aware that education that to be a part of it and isn't in the end of the day there's kids out there they're going to say to himself my little boys play football now and I know there's kids within their team to say I don't care about school maybe at Foot blah that's the hunger and desire that they've got by standing to the parents to educate him so there's more there's more to it than injuries that they could get they might not get picked this such a small percentage of players actually get picked to play football that elite we were talking about before so you've got to prepare yourself to actually go into the next phase of your life and to be able to do something different I mean that's why when I was at a Manchester United when I hit about 26 27 years old and I was comfortable and I knew exactly what I needed to do on during that wig to be ready for a Saturday's game ie my training schedule my training regime what I eat physically being ready mentally being ready for a game on this Saturday that by that time when I realized that I needed to do it then points to get there that was the only point I actually started thinking about things outside of football like opening a restaurant like my digital magazine like the fashion brand like my foundation until I got to that point I was scared to look outside of football I was scared too because I used to think if people start thinking I'm doing everything doing those of things off the pitch I'm not concentrating on football think people will use that stick to beat me with in the media etc and I didn't want people to be allowed to do that so I made sure football was right my bread and butter but then that's when I started to look because I didn't want to be pigeonholed like you said that was my biggest fear of being pigeon-holed is just he's a footballer it's like the next stage of my career I wanted to set things up so that when I did retire like I have I had avenues to go down and I wasn't to be told where I was going I set things up that I could actually make decisions and choices based on that foundations are delayed through later stages of my career and which of your business ventures are you most proud of I think all in different ways I think the my foundation is I've always been someone who's wanted to Hallock help and give back as if cliche but it's just it's true I used to sit on my estate who I grew up with my mates and till late at night on on the stairs and stuff and I'll never leave him Peckham would you say she was tough when your kid you knew you're gonna you're going to eventually move in and do different things but I was always of the mind of being able to come back and help people and that's all my foundations about it's getting kids back onto it fell out of Education has given him a qualifications to get back into work workplaces and we've got links with different companies like BT BBC etc that they get those work placements that after they qualifying on our courses they can go into there and and start on that ladder but but yeah that's with the foundation and the digital magazine has been a real interesting part for me because I like that space that digital and technology side of things and when my team new area look after me were saying artists will do a magazine and stuff and I was like yeah I like that lifestyle I love music I love fashion I love food I love sport and stuff like that this package it up and it was I just always really expensive and I can't expect someone just to go out and buy that off of me and I've never done a magazine in my life so we decided to do a digital one online and make it free for everyone to buy it what sort of one to get so when it was free that was a big incentive for me to do it and it's been going for another five years now and voted the best lifestyle magazine up on and iTunes and stuff and won various awards and it's been good but the most interesting part has been the actual how to monetize it how to have a magazine it no one pays for but they're monetizing it through advertising and stuff like that and just seeing how the advertising worlds kind of evolving from print to digital and how that dynamic works and the trust from people who had always been print a bit old-school and now obviously the new new ages come in and how they kind of evolved into that I get into that and the trust element from it and obviously there's no experience of it so there's no history to it to look back and go out well Astor there's a case study they're free so we'll kind of just touch and feel and work it out as we go along so it's been interesting but really really good enough for that we've managed to do a fashion line off of it so a lot of caps and we're doing some more clothing now so it's been exciting I enjoy it and I enjoy doing different things I mean as a kid I've done ballet so essential School of Ballet don't laugh but um but but that was different no one would expect me to have done that and I'm I was comfortable doing that the kid I was always been quite a confident kid so I've done it really just to kind of go and meet new new girls and stuff like that initially but either I did enjoy it and about it for about three or four years of a scholarship which was really good and you've also become a highly successful pundit do something and in light of and John Terry's kind of beef with Robbie Savage about him not being qualified to comment and do you think that modern-day pundits need to have successful careers in the game before they can then go on to join sky or BT or whatever it may be no I mean I just look at things like that from when I was a player when I played criticism is just part and parcel especially with social media now if you've got to say if you're on social media as a sportsman or someone in the public eye you bear a thick skin because you're going to get hammered because there's people from other clubs tribalism etc we're going to be on your case all the time and you've got to accept there's going to be other element of crais's them now my only problem comes is when it's personal if it's personal that was my whole point on getting on social media five or every year six years ago when it was is that I wanted to have a voice a platform where I could actually show people the real me because before that it was obviously just print media and it was a guy behind a desk like this who wanted to have you had an opinion on me and he they were more or less shaping my image they didn't know me they were saying I was this guy was always in red carpets always in nightclubs always doing this with diamonds everywhere etc when nineteen ninety-five percent of that wasn't me but he was having the ability to do that where social media gave me another voice and to be able to show people this is actually what I do this is where I'm at this is how I do things and so that way you can shut down a lot of kind of rubbish but at the same time I I understand John Terry you get upset you are but I use that as fuel there were times and I wanted to come out and say listen what you're talking about blah blah blah and if it was ever personal I've got two people a reporter and I'd say listen what are you talking about explain yourself and ever one-to-one with someone but when you did publicly it kind of looks like sour grapes a bit bitter and when you are coming to that stage you can really read more more more criticism I had that when I was at QPR I had that in my last couple years I'm a knight but the only way you can shut people out up is by winning being successful being consistent and that was my way when I was at Maine I had my last at under year on the fergie the year before people written me off and said you were finished and then we won the lead the next year and I didn't have to speak that was my that was my voice when will the United next win the league you said that quite smugly days first month they've got a chance this year I think a lot has been said about the way they play and it's not as good to watch as in previous years but said many times now on TV accepted it I think as a man United fan going to all trafford and what or watching on a TV you have to re-educate yourself as a fan to watch men hired you're not going to get the lung busting lay out last-minute goals the third the ridiculous Flair the flamboyance that was once there before it's a different type of football so different philosophies the team now a very pedestrian very precise in the way they play football so you've got expect different things of just may nya team if they win I'm sure we'll all be happy well I went before you living um and Weavin was something entirely different and soul Campbell has claimed that he wasn't made England captain and because of his race because he was black and do you think that's true do you think there is a problem with racism in football if there is what steps you think we can take to try and tackle it listen I'd be lyin if I didn't think there was elements of racism moving football I think that there is where it is is the where there's a gray aware people have opinions I mean if soul thinks that the nest as his opinion was Beck's made captain at that point I think if he I mean I said Beck for the global superstar you can see the angle that the FA were going for someone who inspires others inspired inspired this last generation really and so to argue if that would be a quite a different difficult argument so campbell year was would have been a top contender within that squad to be the captain but i think if someone lesser someone with less experience or hadn't won as much or with that without the exposure that he would eat gave to the England squad I got it and I think souls argument would've been a lot stronger but it takes me to the Rooney Rule do you got you familiar with a renewal yeah and I fingers I was the first thinking out if I was a manager and you only really always where they've got give you an interview as a person of color so I was like I don't want to go into an interview room just based on my color I want to go in there because I am the man to be in there I'm the right man and then it's down to me then to sell myself or so my vision for the club to that chairman and I didn't want to do it based on color and I thought that's what the Rooney will was leaning towards but again and the other argument I've got when I'm sitting there thinking about is that football like a lot of industries is like a mate's game it's who you know and at the moment there aren't many black managers on that merry-go-round this guy around and you as you seen in the Premier League in the Football League you see oh the same managers really on that merry-go-round getting jobs they lose one six months later I'm even short they get another one and it goes on and on on and that merry-go-round has got to be infiltrated with a few more people or sprinkled with fewer people of color because at a moment the chairmen are being able to meet potential managers of color because they're not on that merry-go-round and sort of the Chairman or the people that make the decisions within these clubs don't then know what a person of color is thinking about their Football Club can they sell me a dream are they the right people to articulate what I want from my club can they carry out my needs and what I want for my club so they never like they never know so because it's such a closed environment there's no black people really are people of color in that in that space that's the thing that's got to change and the problem is the question is really will ruin you will change that and I think if you a managers forced to bring people of color within that interview process he's going to then get a better idea and understanding that or you will see that there are people out there capable thank you and again to open up to questions from the audience now can we start off with the question from the gentleman in the shirt on the aisle near the back of the room during the successful time like the Golden Age of Manchester United when you were playing there you were winning one after the other you had a lot of strong characters in the team a lot of big leaders during the same time in the English team there were big leaders however on the field the intensity wasn't the same that was shown by Manchester United team what was the difference according to you manager it's true I mean we should speak to order form that in our team Seba firaon root vanish Roy Roy Keane etc and it's how you talk about the best players on paper in Europe in the world if maybe at that time the golden generation we were named but it doesn't matter how good your team is or a good the individuals life they're not put together as a collective in the right way that you can't you can't be successful and we had in our midfield probably the best midfielders in the world we had sculls Gerard Lampard Beckham all set midfielders really Beck's on the right but scholars are playing left midfield I don't see chavvy plane left me filled for for Spain so I mean you put your best players in their best positions and the most influential players playing their best position scrolls is the best player naturally gifted player played of ever and he's being forced to play left we filled and that's down to me from maybe manager not being able to say to certain players who are big big names listen take a seat on the bench please because this is going to be my team building it around the best players the best player therefore in that position the most effective player so I don't know is I think the money that listen you can't comparing in them and Manchester United is a total different men United teams are together 24/7 England teams come together every now and again and so it's going to be it's going to be different but it's just we weren't good enough at the end of the day as individuals as a team and I do think is down to being put together in the right way and we was never done that was never our case Rea all right obviously you've won everything there is to win in the game so on that note would you like to play for the braised eight seconds against Lincoln tomorrow afternoon at 2 o'clock did you say ii ii really it's a huge local derby it's a really good game there's the answer there when you say seconds i can't be involved I'm sorry good luck anyway go to the the gentleman in the white shirt on the second a really I mean um yeah you said a couple of times at the start 2000 Sea World Cup you thought you were okay I thought you were England's best player in that tournament I'll just you said what would you say you're quite a self-critical person there's that potentially why you felt yeah I had that down in my notes actually to speak about I didn't but I think anyone who's at a top level whether you're playing top level or you're leading the team or your manager you criticize yourself more than anyone else if I'm going to be able to if I'm gonna go to changing them and I'm going to dig someone out which was which happened on occasions if I'm going to dig someone out on a training pitch or in a training ground alright or in the match I need to know that my own in order am i training hard harder than anyone else is my work ethic right in my punch reality right and why am i performing even if I'm not performing in the game I couldn't accept that if I'm not performing because it's not for the one of trying and not for what being professional but if I'm going to go at someone I need to know that as I said my stuffs right so but after a game before I even speak to anyone I I come off that pitch knowing what I've done right what I've done wrong and where I'm going to work on it and then I can go in there with full confidence when I dig someone out you can't come back at me of anything he can't come back at me if that I've not tried hard enough he can't come back to me that and I haven't prepared because I'm in a training ground before you so be quiet just the way I was when I was when I played can we go to the and gentleman in the glasses about half way back on the right hand side so earlier we spoke about arm Sol Campbell being overlooked for the captaincy our England captaincy did you have a few that at Manchester United you were overlooked for the captaincy and you do a few year ago so Alex for the position of captain or vice captain yeah I think when it was my time to be captain Gary Neville was injured and the manager was expecting Gary to come back and he took him a year a year and a half he never really came back so I was kind of sharing it with Giggsy at a time when we won the Champions League and stuff and then once he was going to make a decision on the captaincy I was starting to get injuries with my back had a few problems veida was obviously a bit younger more than worthy candidate to be captain and the fact the managers comments at the time was I want someone who's going to be on the pitch all the time because he had the problem were going over before and I think that kind of went against me disappointed of course listen you don't want to be captain lifting trophies leading your team at a responsibility that's the stuff up front and that's what I wanted you know I didn't plater to to just be one of the eleven I wanted to be the best I wanted to be the person that people look to I wanted that added responsibility but even without the armband that was my attitude as multiple issue but the armband was something as a kid you look at any age it just filled you with immense pride when you wore it and it was a maybe ego fingers or if I'm being honest but it was just uh it was almost it just caps off everything and you just think right now let's go even again Jan I mean base we're going to eat I'm not bit I don't get me wrong I'm not being at all but being mine United and England captain wearing the armband when I did was just special stuff were you in village the best centre-back partnership at the premier league's ever seen what do you think as a city phone I had how to disagree but girl who you've includes them I think I think Vincent Kompany and and - I'm - thank you thank you very much and who well I'm Angola and Demi shadow so they're working on I might be biased they're moving on can we please go to the question about halfway back to in from the bookshelf um I'm just wondering whether you for given more time and Man United David Moyes would have been able to succeed and if you don't think that at what stage in his reign did you start to realize that maybe it wasn't a good fit for the club hmm filming this hmm so it was the first big I'm sorry I'm being serious tough where do you think given more time you would not have to succeed it's difficult offer how can you kind of make a judgment on that I think the club made a decision and we as players you stick by it I just think it's it's such a big job I think the biggest one of the big problems as well for David Moyes which I think anybody would have had with the struggled with was it wasn't just feeling so Alex Ferguson issues it was that he had to fill a CEO David Gill as well who changed at the time he had to fill it out then then she was out to be filled so you've got two huge players at the club you made the decisions and were part of a huge period of successor Club just gone out of club a new manager comes in he wouldn't manage that a level level before and a new CEO comes in and then that dynamic they got formal a relationship as well as retain success we won the league by what eleven or twelve points a year before and that'sthat's huge it's a huge void to fill in a club so he made it poison chalice at the load not a poison chalice but I think it was a difficult place to come into to be successful and like I said I don't think so that David Moyes realized the enormity of the job of the place until he was in in in the club and then it's hard to turn it around once you're in that bubble it's hard to really sit go to the question right at the back next to you hasn't high Rio if you were Manchester United manager right now and Edward would give you a blank check to sign any player who would you sign and why I would have to say I was screaming last year to buy a bell the fans were on his case and I fought a perfect time to go on game Real Madrid he's 24 25 years old primetime peak of his powers physically knows how to win now so it's been a real Madrid you get six years out of him now I finger money well spent do you agree cool the gentleman in the pink shirt on the second day will we ever see another episode of Rio's world clock wind ups I didn't expect to hear that here maybe yeah well boobies speaking about it it's something that we've been asked to do a few times since it was funny I did enjoy winding people up back in the day and um I should bring it back again there's a good few people are glad to get now yeah I mean it's a exciting project so um maybe and it was part like then give it to the family just just in funny yeah um you've cleared me for some very difficult defeats in your time you mentioned the Champions League semi-final earlier how'd you get through that I'm also like going back into the dressing room well probably been the drunkest I've ever been after both during finals against Barcelona so that's one way night is it's the same as winning it's just again looking to get back on them we lost the first one we were embarrassed really against Barcelona in Rome and I remember the manager saying in this in the check in the change rooms after listen look look like the whole changing was obviously devastated and everyone was down and just on their hunches like that and remember the manager saying this and everyone getting heads up look at me now I said we'll be back here next year get back here and that was the mindset of the players will get back there with OB again but we will get back and I think that said even you put into perspective we won four titles back-to-back free Champions League finals within that period that up I find it hard to see that being repeated you could man City paint won back-to-back titles yet they find it too hard they even got past the group stages really of a Champions League and they've been the best team in this country for a couple of years Chelsea they finished fifth I think when they won a Champions League I didn't win the league it's a difficult thing to do so to find a team that capable of doing that he's going to be difficult key thanks again for coming race privilege to have you here and without any particular teams that you really enjoyed playing against or really enjoyed beating and there's some really good goals you score Leon to Liverpool I really enjoyed beautiful beautiful don't take me back please no listen the rival I didn't realize the rivalry between man united new report that I got there and it was like the week before the game I'm taking my kids to school I've got Nan's granddad's kids coming up to you don't you lose that game what a weekend don't lose that and the pressure starts mount and you start thinking yourself especially the first couple years doesn't that what I've never known anything like it you go into the Baker's the Baker's in their movies hair not on screaming at you I'll make sure you don't lose to these boy blues bah bah bah and it was just like you didn't I didn't realize that the magnitude of city would just get taken over by the derbies um inviter sorry bye little games and then all of a sudden man City started with a little bit of money and a few more fans came out the woodwork and and then so this the city became more of a rival with them and so you see you'd walk down in Manchester on a high street and you'd have people shiny you're not just about Louisville waiting Batman City then and so it became really really really enjoyable when we did win I'm a Robin van Persie's gold against Man City was just beautiful we want for free I've got a client to remember it when those hit with a coin from one of the city fans but but he was a great shot but that game deliver pool games the one that I scored in Old Trafford and a shirt for the end is a lovely touch came like the sky left foot into the top corner Reina had no chance that one but to be honest they're some of the games our didn't score in or we been shady John O'Shea scored at Anfield there's no better place to win a hand filled it's unbelievable last minute he scored one last minute I think Toby scored another one and we went to went on to win the league after Shady's won by always just our to celebrate Anfield and walk off and walk down a tunnel just eyes beautiful stuff so can we go to the question from gentleman about half way back on the right hand side in the Brillion jumper yeah yeah you said you spoke a lot about the influence of media and sorry media so yeah two question you spoke a lot about the influence of media in sports and we see a lot you know England not winning the World Cup perhaps is that a bad thing and my second question is will Island win tonight and qualify for France I hope they do I want to see the home countries go to the tournament I think they add something with the fans and stuff and I've got a lot mate to play for very all the home country so I'd like to see that the media was you mean affecting the English team winning yeah because when you go to with England everything gets magnified hundreds of times more the whole country's eyes are on you and I think a job of a manager as well her team is to kind of protect the players from that magnifying glass and for the attention and when you go over and kind of take the pressure off the players because you've got especially when you're young and obviously this is like the Holy Grail play of wringing the spot every kid dreams of and so you go down and all that pressure from from them years of wanting to play for England on your shoulders when you get there and you need a manager to be able to take that away and let you go out there and just play with a free kind of spirit and I mean that's what Ferguson was great at it was all about going out there and expressing yourself and enjoying it and letting the attacking players just play and with England we I just never felt we had that kind of freedom we never felt free never felt that fluidity toward to the way we played football as individuals and as a collective and so often at the media as well play a huge part in that in terms of D expectations that they put up on the players shoulders now you get people to say are you paid X amount of money to be able to deal with that listen we're all human and people have to deal with emotions and managing emotions are a real big and huge part of in any walk of life being able to manage your emotions especially in pressure situations and that separates the good from the great time for couple questions can we go to the question right at the back hi do so there's a sense among the fans that towards the end of Sir Alex Ferguson's tenure he laid the problems in center midfield linger for a little too long where did you and some of the other senior players anything think in the team think about that in theory Mott saw the problems in the central midfield we're about towards the end of Sir Alex Ferguson's career where did you end some of the other senior players in the team thing about that do you think there was enough in the midfield or did you think there was serious need for reinforcements we had Marco Carrick left it with OSes left mark Erik Anderson cleverly Fletcher you're a fan who know your stuff yeah but listen sir in Sir Alex Ferguson is last year you won the league by 11 points it couldn't be in that bad I think that's the argument that you would have if I'll say any issues I'd say 11 points excuse me with all due respect I've just left you with a team of 1 by 11 points please take that on that's what I'll be saying but I understand injuries Fletcher sculls retired cleverly was a young player Anderson a lot of injuries but in us down to the next manager them to go and reinforced at midfield he he went and bought fellaini he was a player that he chose one motto he bought so he was reinforcing the team but then it's all about who you buy a do they fit into your team etc then the managers got to take that on and then make it his own team and then I'm sorry I don't think so Alex Ferguson can be accused of leaving the team and substandard not when you've won the league by that in my appointment to ask a Bruce Lee honest question from you um how old do you think England are going to do next summer I hope they do a lot better than last tournament because I thought with a big disappointment but the players are a more experienced now you'd like to think they'll be improvement the problem is is the group they've qualified from I don't give it I don't think gives us any bearing on if there's an improvement or not I think we saw against Spain the other day and totally outclassed really so when you're coming up against the Spain's the France we're going to be at home a tournament the Germany's a thing we'll still we left one in if I'm honest and then finally on the on the second row please they've done here hi really he said poor scores was most naturally get to play he played with and I just wanted to know which team and which player did you least like to play against the Chelsea team when Mourinho was first there was a hard team to play against their pace in wide areas Robin Duff Drogba strong powerful Lampard hitting 20 goals a season John Terry in Kavala at the back Makelele in front of the back for the best holding player in the world at the time they were hard team to play against really difficult strong powerful team we had great games against them really them I'd say obviously Barcelona I mean in Rome they just had been buried I remember me and Giggsy and skulls you were sat stood on the hitch even I think was at Wembley now was it remember di Roma but they both moved into one actually that bad I remember was all stood there watching Barcelona walk up the steps and was all stood there and you see flowers now doing that don't you still are talking to each other to stop the lip-readers seeing what they're talking about and was glad how embarrassing was up it's just that was that made you feel just felt like you should have been on the pitch and then and you got to live without over a summer so that's what I mean so we won the league that year vote for me as we lost elite lost a Champions League final which is devastating but we want to leave both years in the Premier League so more or less dampen the win in the league so you're on holiday and everyone's gone out what a season you've had blah blah blah yes you're the first thing you can think about is I've just got destroyed by Barcelona so you can't even enjoy it really is kind of a weird a weird feeling we've got we've done it away coming here next week rude and eager good Gert is the one question you think we should ask him why he didn't score that got a web Lima or million of stadium he was under the bar he was the more less underneath the crossbar and he missed I can't believe it we lost it well it was against Arsenal I still yeah that that was yeah just tell him man I still have nightmares over day it kills me and he was a brilliant plant man he was unbelievable he's the most devastating strike over played with like the ball drops in the box and bang so go be a really good really good striker great guys well funny guy good guy and that's all we have time for today I'm afraid it was have a couple more questions I see a few people look disappointed if we got come on a couple more question come on it okay umm-hmm the owner a question assassin Gordon family as an ex England player what do you think about the the fact that it appears that the next two venues for the World Cup have been fixed by corruption and probably two previous to that I think as a I don't know why we carried on it and as a player you totally put that to one side and don't think about it because all you're worried about is getting to a tournament and taking part and then trying to win the tournament as a professional as an ex player now obviously you get time to think and see these type of things that are happening it's funny I've just come back from Qatar and then I went to look at one of the stadium just being built and I've had a lot of stories given to me and and I digested a lot from the media but I went when I went to the stadium the level of professionalism I saw 3000 people on site working the safety I couldn't pick a fault if I'm being totally honest in that respect whether they put on a show for me I don't know but when I saw it like that I made me start thinking well if Pete if I've seen a different story in terms of the way the stadium's are being built at the one I mean I only went to one side I'm gonna be wrong how many more things it may be different than being given in the media I think you're some obviously getting this game to selectively yeah that's a different story I mean if you're talking about that side of it at the moment it doesn't look good I think I think when a winner I mean presidents and prime ministers don't stay in power that long as Sepp Blatter has done ahead of a union the way he has around us I think he's unheard of and so automatically you start thinking negatively how and why is he still in that position the World Cup going to Qatar year listen at the time of year the heat and stuff but I think they didn't do things to accommodate that will it work or not remains to be seen but yet in terms of thinking about is there is there been any underhand goings-on within FIFA at the moment because you've not been told anything but if you're looking at it just from the outside I'd find it hard not to think that there is something until that's gone on you know in if not recent but many years the question in the third ray hariya that's coming um if you could with things like diving etc going on in the game if as an X probe like diving executive like Tom Daley over on the pitch if you could as an ex-pro you could change two or three laws to make it a better game what would you do I'd have sin bins I want - in Ben I think it's exciting I think adds to it are you playing with any and it will stop people from mouthing off and being disrespectful to the magnet to the referees rugby do it very well I wouldn't bring in technology like gold on technology I think adds to the to the madness of the game it adds to the chat after on radios on TV and magazine I think if it becomes too clinical like that I don't like it this isn't a stop-start sport this is a continuous sport that you like to keep ticking over so then to add to that I'd look at the question from gentlemen did the blue jumper how did that with the hair cope with the pressure there was like placed on him when he like when he joined first join man United and all the mistakes that you made in his first couple of seasons my pep talks probably not really I'm joking I'm no he's a listen when he first came in he was a young for any player but a goalkeeper when you're that age is very very young goalkeepers tend to hit their best form mid to late-20s and then get better even with age then he came is like a 19 20 year old and to come into into the sticks that Monty United especially after someone like Abram and the Tsar's been there is a huge huge huge thing to try and do and I think he was physically he wasn't ready at a time he probably had to build himself up he went for a process of doing a lot of gym eating the right things and just mentally he had to really really toughen up and he did is a different game listen he come from Spain where I don't really cross the boy near everything on the floor here he's having to fight off people like Kevin Davis and people like that big monsters so it's a different different type of football together not only data from a different culture so there were so many things that were kind of against him they eat the manager stick stuck with him offering credit to sorry folks and he's sticking with him and now for me I think he's the best keeper on the planet hi Rio um during your career how did you deal with being injured you got crutches I can see yeah your crutches oh yeah well for probably four or five years I'd niggling back injury which was my week would run like we'd play sadi and I'd get out of my car on the way home and I'd walk I'd have to get out and I'd walk in like this no laughs where I'm walking like this and then I'd get home I just lay down straight away then all week I'd have to go into training like this and I would gradually get up as Wednesday Thursday comes I'm up and then I might train fuzzy place train Saturday Friday and then play again sadly and that was all assisted by working on me physically with the physios and the sports scientists and taking lots of tablets too and iam flam's etc it's like a walking chemist and for a period of time that's hard in itself but the mental side of it I mean Jamie part of our management management seemed there he was with me along the way I'd say that was in terms of football one of the most difficult periods of my sport in life being able to deal with that mentally so you go through so many different emotions so I've gone from playing every week week in week out to even in a warm-up I don't know if I'm going to make it for a warm-up let alone a match Stoke away five minutes into the warm-up my back goes after walking now dealing with that embarrassment letting your teammates down in a change room they come in after the warm-up we what's wrong you're not playing up my back's gone and you're looking in these eyes and you're thinking I would have been thinking your backs gone you winding me up come on get out but played you've got the game that that's the way I used to think about certain players if it wasn't a break or it wasn't like a cruciate is to think you can get along with it come and take a tablet would get out there so you got a deal with that thinking what people are thinking about yeah I was having to go in a changing room because I won't train in a week I still want the team to go out to train then come in so I've not got to see no one walking do my work and try and go out before they finish because I was embarrassed my pride was dented I weren't being able to go out and play in front of the crisis often I'd wanted to and then when I was out on the pitch I wasn't being able to play it to my full capabilities because I was being held back by an injury so you got all them things flying around and that's about soul searching and finding a way first the root of problems of you injury which I managed to get to and then managing your injury managing yourself and then building yourself esteem back up again to go out there and play it's not easy but you've got to remain positive at all times if you can it's difficult there's dark base those days he'll tell you when I was sitting there going I don't know if I can come back no one knew this people think you're indestructible as a sportsman or as a player people think that your emotions don't take a batter and you just deal with it you just go so eyes on under grand a week you can deal with this you have to deal with it you undergunned a week I want my being injured a hundred grand a week but I want to play football I want to win more trophies are to be recognized as the best so to do that I need to be fit so then you end up putting pressure on yourself so it's like almost ask just it's just keeps going round and round and until you get an idea of managing all them things together then you can actually start making steps forward to go out there and perform again at the highest level will go for one final question but VA will be joining us in the bar laughs where to do come and continue the conversation yeah and can we go to the question in the aisle on the third way I did you have any sort of pre-match routines or superstitions or any songs that you listen to well we could be here for a long time I was so superstitious because I was so scared of not winning like my asshole's just give you an idea of my day of match day so I would so that before I would do my mental I'd think about who are so for instance I'm playing against Thierry Henry what's he good at so before my hates to pillow for a minute or so I began what's he good at he's right footed likes to go on the left-hand side doesn't really like me when I physical with him tries to stay over that side away from me the first tackle the first challenge we have the first planning to the channel the first term we do I was going through all of that playing I'm on mine for the next day wake up in the morning go through that for 30 seconds again just brush through it then I'd wake up and I'd wake up at about quarter rate go down for breakfast have porridge with some currants on it jam on toast and sometimes I'll ever nom lit any yogurt and a banana and then I go back to bed ever sleep wake up at about quarter to 12:00 go down for the for the pre-match meal a premature video of the opposing team do that what's the game what sort of to detail go into lunch and your pre match meal and I'd have pasta with chicken breast and broccoli lemon on it with Parmesan cheese yogurt with honey in it a banana a coffee all of us I'd order a coffee in the whole table go yep yep arms up like I'm one bomb that dominoes we will have a coffee one sugar and then we'd leave and now during that time I'd have a couple of liters of water I have to get through before the game then I get to the game and I go and get my left foot strapped my left ankle straps didn't need a shot him but I had to then music was a big thing so in the mornings in much in my room I'd have my ipod and I have my speakers and I'd be playing tunes dadís up from the book of during the week and I've certain songs I put on bit of hip hop of old house and garage be evolved Greg a bit of rock and then I'll go to the ground to get a strap and obviously like I said sorry then me and Scalzi would always play to touch so that I'd be here in the changing like bearing in mind some of these changes a really small but mean skulls you have to find an area and I'll go here and he's where you are and so I'll start buying two touches you play it back two touches and then by the end of it he's like smashing the boy into me and we're flying about a change room getting a sweat on and everyone's going to come and you've got people in there bearing in mind you were sitting there trying to get ready for a game lighting quiet in silence and in their own zone and it's balls flying past their head and stuff so Scalzi beat me once I think in in a way eight years yeah no no I didn't he was good but so we would do that and then I'll always have to go out if I wasn't the captain I'd go see you at first it wasn't the captain I'd always have to go out behind the goalkeeper third that no one could go in that position I wasn't happening if people tried to stand there and I'd be like the straight on get back and then as I leave the changing it might have to sprinkle my head before and then I get out and change them before I got to the white line I've smashed the bottle of water over my head and then I'd have to jump as I go over the white line and then I have to run to the corner I swear to son believe that used to keep key with it and then I'd have to run to the corner if anyone who went to Old Trafford for any Matt time would know that I ran to that corner where we were going to be facing the other way where my goalkeeper will be a ghost opposite corner fiddle with my shorts spin round and do a little it will lash up should I move me like that just to know I'm on the game and then then I was in then I was in match mode like you couldn't you couldn't talk to me it's unbelievable and so I used to be in a tunnel and my mates obviously played of England and stuff like that and they'll be coming out everyone shaking hands in a ton of ways to hate it I still think the ways that pk we played against asked or something and he was shaking hands with fàbregas hugging kissing the lot and after I was gone what you doing like we're planning its arsenal what are you doing like shaking hands cutting in like friendly with these guys we were to go out there and play again sometime on or you'd say like oh look at him with his mates so you make them feel bad so you are I didn't like between people like that you know Fletcher and how people shine at people saying what you're doing talking to him but being a tunnel and I love lemon but you made the foam over people come up to me saying yes we are doing that trying to shake hands on just standing like that and then I'm gonna become a lady hearts me of England one time so we have why is it when I'm when I wear the tunnel you're just trying to go an all serious all the time I said what you want me to do like how do you and so I can't do this but I got there and playing with a kicky right so people do it differently but yeah that's my rituals please join me in thanking we've had you

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Length: 74min 26sec (4466 seconds)

Published: Wed Dec 09 2015