MILLEY STORY. JOINING US NOW TO TALK ABOUT IT, FORMER ENERGY SECRETARY RICK PERRY WHO IS A DEAR FRIEND. I REPEAT MR. PERRY WAS VERY INVOLVED IN NATIONAL SECURITY AS ANY ENERGY SECRETARY IS, A FORMER TEXAS GOVERNOR, A FORMER CAPTAIN IN THE AIR FORCE. ALSO A DEAR FRIEND. MR. SECRETARY, RICK, AS YOU KNOW GENERAL MILLEY IS DEFENDING HIMSELF. PRESIDENT BIDEN IS DEFENDING MILLEY. TAKE A LISTEN WHAT BIDEN HAD TO SAY. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. >> I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN GENERAL MILLEY. LARRY: SO THERE YOU HAVE IT. I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN GENERAL MILLEY, RICK PERRY, DO YOU, OR DO YOU THINK HE SHOULD RESIGN? >> WELL, JOE BIDEN HAS CONFIDENCE IN GENERAL MILLEY UNTIL HE DOESN'T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN GENERAL MILLEY. THAT IS A REALLY KEY POINT HERE. AS THIS, AS THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR 14 YEARS, I HAD A PRETTY SIMPLE SET OF RULES. IF I WERE ABOUT TO DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL, IMMORAL OR UNETHICAL, THEN IT WAS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU WORKED WITH ME OR FOR ME TO COME TO ME TO SIT DOWN SAY, SIR YOU CAN'T DO THIS FOR THESE REASONS. IF IT WAS NOT ILLEGAL OR IMMORAL, UNETHICAL, THEN YOU ONLY HAD TWO OTHER OPTIONS. YES, SIR, I DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR HERE IS MY LETTER OF RESIGNATION, I CAN WORK FOR YOU. I THINK SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, PARTICULARLY IN THIS CHAIN OF COMMAND WHERE THE CIVILIANS ARE IN CHARGE OF THE MILITARY GENERAL MILLEY HAS LOST HIS WAY. I LIKE GENERAL MILLEY. HIS DAUGHTER WORKED WITH ME WHEN HE WAS OVER AT FORT HOOD. I THINK SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY GENERAL MILLEY LOST HIS WAY. HE SHOULD HAVE TALKED TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. HE COULD HAVE COME AND SAT DOWN IF HE HAD ALL OF THESE CONCERNS. LISTEN, LARRY, I WAS SITTING IN A LOT OF THESE SECURITY BRIEFINGS. WE SAW THINGS GET BLOWN UP LIKE THE RUSSIAN DOSSIER. WE SAW THINGS GOT BLOWN UP LIKE THE UKRAINE ISSUE THAT I WAS THERE IN THE ROOM, I MIGHT ADD, AND I FOUND THEM ALL TO BE FABLES. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS IS A INSIDE THE BELTWAY WHERE PEOPLE SIT AROUND AND TALK TO EACH OTHER AND THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY IS TALKING TO THE MILITARY COMMUNITY AND IT IS DISENGAGED WITH REALITY BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THIS AND THIS IS SIMPLE, IF GENERAL MILLEY SAID HE DID WHAT HE SAID HE DID, THEN IT IS ONLY HONORABLE, IF HE BELIEVES IN THE CONSTITUTION AND THE STRUCTURE OF AMERICA, THAT HE TURN HIS LETTER OF RESIGNATION IN, OR IF JOE BIDEN CARES ABOUT HIS PRESIDENCY AT ALL, HAVING SOMEONE WHO BASICALLY SAID, HEY LOOK, I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK, I'M GOING TO DO WHAT I THINK AND WILL GO AROUND YOU AND TALK TO FOREIGN LEADERS WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE. UNACCEPTABLE, LARRY, UNACCEPTABLE. LARRY: SECRETARY, LET ME READ FROM OUR FORMER BOSS, PRESIDENT TRUMP, HAS MADE VERY TOUGH STATEMENTS LAST NIGHT AND TODAY. SO LET ME QUOTE FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP. IF IT IS EXACTLY TRUE, MEANING WHAT MILLEY HAS SAID, WHICH IS HARD TO BELIEVE HE WOULD HAVE CALLED CHINA AND DONE THESE THINGS, WAS WILLING TO ADVISE THEM OF AN ATTACK OR IN ADVANCE OF AN ATTACK, THAT'S TREASON. NOW PRESIDENT TRUMP ALSO WENT ON TO SAY IN A STATEMENT THAT PEOPLE THAT FABRICATED THE STORY ARE SICK AND DEMENTED AND PEOPLE WHO PRINT IT ARE JUST AS BAD. IN FACT I'M THE ONLY PRESIDENT IN DECADES WHO DIDN'T GET THE U.S. INTO A WAR. THAT IS A WELL-KNOWN FACT SELDOM REPORTED. RICK PERRY, LET ME JUST FOCUS ON THAT LAST POINT BECAUSE PART OF THE MYSTERY, AT LEAST FOR MEME AS SOMEONE A BIG AD MADER OF GENERAL MILLEY, WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A GREAT PATRIOT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS BUSINESS. DONALD TRUMP WOULD NOT HAVE BOMBED CHINA. DONALD TRUMP WOULD HAVE NOT BOMBED ANYBODY. DONALD TRUMP IS ESSENTIALLY A ANTIWAR PRESIDENT FOR HEAVENS SAKES. HE IS A STOOD UP FOR AMERICA, TAKE OUT TERRORISTS IF NECESSARY. HE WAS NOT A BOMBER, NOT AN INVADER. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS STUFF CAME FROM. RICK, IF TRUMP WAS TEED OFF AT CHINA HE WOULD HAVE PUT A LOT TARIFFS ON THEM BUT HE WOULDN'T HAVE DROPPED BOMBS. >> AS HE DID. AS HE DID. LARRY: AS HE DID. THAT WAS A GAME I WAS HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH. WHERE IS THIS MILLEY WARNING LI ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OR DON'T WORRY THERE WILL NOT BE ANY BOMBING, WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM? >> I DON'T KNOW. IT IS REALLY TROUBLING. IT US TROUBLING IN THE SENSE OF IF WE HAVE LEADERS IN OUR MILITARY WHO DO NOT RESPECT THE CHAIN OF COMMAND, IF THEY FEEL THAT THERE IS A, AN ISSUE AND THEY CAN'T COME AND TALK TO THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTRY THAT THEY WORK FOR, THEN THEY HAVE LOST THEIR WAY AND, AGAIN, I THINK THAT IS, WE AS A COUNTRY NEED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS NEEDS TO HAVE A DEEP, THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATION, IS THE WAY THAT WE ARE SELECTING OUR OFFICERS IN THE MILITARY THE PROPER WAY? I'VE HAD INDIVIDUALS WHO I GREW UP WITH, WORKED WITH, WHO WERE IN THE MILITARY FOR MULTIPLE DECADES, WHO BASICALLY SAID, SINCE VIETNAM, WE HAVE BEEN CHOOSING THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR MILITARY MORE FOCUSED ON DID THEY GO TO THE RIGHT SCHOOL? DID THEY KISS UP TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE? WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT WHAT WERE THE REAL QUALIFICATIONS THAT WE NEEDED IN OUR WARFIGHTERS? AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THAT IS WHO WE NEED TO BE SELECTING TO LEAD THIS COUNTRY, REAL WARFIGHTERS WHO HAD THAT RESPONSIBILITY, PARTICULARLY IN KEEPING AMERICA FREE AND TONIGHT POLITICIZE PROCESS OF CHOOSING OUR LEADERS, BY DID THEY GO TO THE RIGHT SCHOOLS? DID THEY KISS THE RIGHT PERSON'S BACKSIDE TO GET TO THAT PLACE OF LEADERSHIP IN THE UNITED STATES MILITARY. SO I THINK WE HAVE A DEEPER ISSUE HERE THAN JUST GENERAL MILLEY. WE HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR ABOUT HOW ARE WE PICKING THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR MILITARY AND ARE WE ON THE VERGE OF LOSING CONTROL OF IT? LARRY: WELL THOSE ARE KEY POINT, VERY KEY POINT, SECRETARY. LOOK I WANT TO FINISH THIS UP. REGETABLY, SOMEONE WHO RESPECTED GENERAL MILLEY AND ADMIRED HIM. HE USED TO COME UP TO MY OFFICE ON THE SECOND FLOOR. THAT IS HOW I GOT TO KNOW HIM. SEEMS TO ME WAS CONDUCTING HIS OWN MILITARY POLICY. LET ME QUOTE BRIEFLY, ACTING SECRETARY OF DEFENSE CHRIS MILLER, HE WAS THE LAST DEFENSE SECRETARY, HE SAYS QUOTE, HE, MEANING MILLER, DID NOT AND WOULD NOT EVER AUTHORIZE CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF, GENERAL MARK MILLEY TO HAVE SECRET CALLS WITH HIS CHINESE COUNTERPART, DESCRIBING THE ALLEGATIONS AS A DISGRACEFUL AND UNPRECEDENTED ACT OF INSUBORDINATION AND AND. >> Caller: ING ON HIM TO RESIGN IMMEDIATELY. MILLER WAS SECRETARY OF DEFENSE. OBVIOUSLY AFTER THE ELECTION AFTER MILLEY MADE THOSE POST-JANUARY 6th CALLS TO GENERAL LI OF CHINA. MILLER ESSENTIALLY AGREES WITH YOUR POINT OF VIEW. AS I POINTED OUT IN THE INTRO, YOU YOURSELF ARE A MILITARY MAN. YOU WERE A CAPTAIN IN THE AIR FORCE GOOD MANY YEARS. I BELIEVE YOU WENT TO TEXAS A&M, YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE NATIONAL SECURITY GAME FOR A LONG TIME SO YOU KNOW WHEREOF YOU SPEAK. THE THING IS, WHAT IF HE DOESN'T RESIGN? LAST QUESTION, SECRETARY PERRY? WHAT IF HE DOESN'T RESIGN? THIS HAS ANTI-TRUMP OVERTONES AND YOU TALKED ABOUT INSUBORDINATION WITH MILITARY LEADERS, WHAT IF HE DOESN'T RESIGN, WHAT IF HE STAYS THERE? >> THAT IS ON PRESIDENT BIDEN. IT IS ALL ON PRESIDENT BIDEN. AS A MATTER OF FACT THE AFGHAN WITHDRAWAL, THE OPEN BORDER WE HAVE IN TEXAS TODAY, ALL OF THESE ISSUES GO BACK TO JOE BIDEN. AT SOME POINT IN TIME, I THINK THE RESIDUAL EFFECT OF THIS THE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION THAT ARE DEMOCRATS TRYING TO PASS THESE MASSIVE BILLS, THEY'RE GOING TO START SEEING THE LOSS OF SUPPORT BACK HOME FOR THEIR AGENDA. AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME POINT IN TIME THE BIDEN AGENDA COMPLETELY CRUMBLES AND THIS IS A FAILED ADMINISTRATION AND CERTAINLY WILL BE A ONE-TERM ADMINISTRATION AND THE DEMOCRATS WILL LOSE CONTROL OF CONGRESS IN 2022. FRANKLY THEY SHOULD IF THIS IS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO RUN THIS COUNTRY. THIS IS A DEBACLE OF THE FIRST CLASS. LARRY: WELL, MR. SECRETARY, ORIGINALLY WE WERE GOING TO HAVE YOU ON ABOUT TAXING NATURAL GAS AND OVER RELIANCE ON WINDMILLS AND WIND POWER AND THE GREEN NEW DEAL BUT INSTEAD THIS CAME UP. SO YOU'RE TERRIFIC TO GIVE US, WEIGH IN ON THAT. I HOPE YOU COME BACK SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT ENERGY POLICY SOMETIME. >> WE SHOULD BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE FROM A NATIONAL SECURITY STANDPOINT THE RUSSIANS ARE LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK. LARRY: YEP.
