GIVEN SOMETHING BEFORE THEN. MARIA: MEANWHILE, A NEW FOX NEWS POLL SHOWS BIDEN -- TRUMP LEADING BIDEN BY 3 POINTS WITH ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR. IN THIRD PLACE. BIDEN IS REFUSING TO ALLOW KENNEDY ON THE DEBATE STAGE OR REFUSING TO GIVE HIM ANY SECRET SERVICE PROTECTION PROVIDED TO MAJOR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES ALL OF THIS TIME KENNEDY HAS NOT BEEN OFFERED SUCH A SERVICE. THIS DESPITE THE TRAGIC HISTORY OF THE KENNEDY FAMILY THAT SAW THE ASSASSINATION OF TO BOTH HIS FATHER, ROBERT F. KENNEDY, AND HIS UNCLE, PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY. JOINING ME IN THIS "SUNDAY MORNING FUTURES" EXCLUSIVE IS PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR. WITH. MR. KENNEDY, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR JOINING ME THIS MORNING. >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME, MARIA. MARIA: SO YOUR REACTION TO YOU NOT BEING OFFERED THIS POSITION. HAVE YOU HEARD FROM THE CAMPAIGNS OR FROM CNN OR A ABC TO ASK YOUR, YOUR PLAUSIBILITY OF BEING ON THAT DEBATE STAGE? >> WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH CNN. CNN PUBLISHED A LIST OF FOUR CRITERIA FOR CANDIDATES GETTING IN THE DEBATE WITH, AND WE HAVE SHOWN CNN THAT WE MEET ALL OF THOSE CRITERIA AND THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND PRESIDENT BIDEN CANNOT MEET THOSE CRITERIA. THE KEY, ONE OF THE WHO TWO SORT OF KEY PIECE OF, KEY CRITERION IS THAT EVERY CANDIDATE HAS TO HAVE, IF ON THE BALLOTS IN ENOUGH STATES TO GET 270 ELECTORAL VOTES BY JUNE 20TH, AND WE WILL BE, WE WILL QUALIFY FOR THAT. PRESIDENT TRUMP AND PRESIDENT BIDEN CANNOT QUALIFY FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ELECTORAL VOTES AT THIS TIME. THEY ARE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEES FOR THEIR PARTY, BUT THEY THEMSELVES ARE NOT ON THE BALLOT. I WILL BE THE ONLY ONE ON THE BALLOT. THE OTHER CRITERION IS FOUR POLLS THAT HAVE ME AT 15%, NATIONAL POLLS X THEY LISTED THE POLLING FIRMS THAT THEY WOULD TAKE THOSE POLLS FROM, AND WE'VE GIVEN THEM FIVE NATIONAL POLLS THAT HOE ME, INCLUDING THE CNN, THE MOST RECENT CNN POLL THAT HAS ME AT 15. HARVARD-HARRIS POLL, THE MONMOUTH POLL, THE QUINNIPIAC POLL. THEY ALL HAVE ME AT 15% OR MORE. SO I QUALIFY FOR THE DEBATES. THEY HAVE NOW MADE -- THEY MADE A PUBLIC OFFER. WE CONSIDER THAT A CONTRACT. AND WE'RE IN DISCUSSION WITH CNN NOW. MARIA: SO WHY DO YOU HAVE THIS ASSURANCE THAT YOU THINK YOU'LL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE 2700 ELECTORAL VOTES -- 2700 ELECTORAL VOTES BY JUNE 20TH. YOU THINK YOU'LL GET THEM BUT BY JUNE 20TH? >> YEAH, OR WE'LL BE ON THE BALLOT -- WE ALREADY HAVE, WE HAVE ENOUGH SIGNATURES TODAY FOR 200 ELECTORAL VOTES. BY THE END OF THE MONTH, WE'LL BE AT A 340. MARIA: OKAY. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY'RE KEEPING YOU OFF THE DEBATE STAGE? >> I THINK THEY DON'T WANT THE TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES NEITHER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOR PRESIDENT BIDEN ARE COMFORTABLE TALKING ABOUT. THESE TWO PRESIDENTS RAN UP THE BIGGEST DEFICIT IN HISTORY THAT'S NOW DRIVING THE INFLATION THEIR CYCLE IN THIS COUNTRY. PRESIDENT TRUMP IN FOUR SHORT YEARS RAN UP $8 THE TRILLION IN DEBT. IT'S MORE DEBT, MORE MONEY SPENT THAN EVERY PRESIDENT COME INBINDED FROM GEORGE WASHINGTON TO GEORGE W. BUSH, AND PRESIDENT BIDEN IS RUSHING TO KEEP UP WITH HIM. THE TWO OF THEM SHUT DOWN OUR COUNTRY, SHUT DOWN 3.3 MILLION BUSINESSES WITH WITH NO DUE PROCESS, NO JUST COMPENSATION, NO SCIENTIFIC CITATION. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE FEEDING THE TOXIC POLARIZATION THAT IS TEARING OUR COUNTRY APART. BOTH OF THESE CANDIDATES SAY THAT THEY WANT TO END THE POLARIZATION, BUT THEY HAVE NO WAY TO DO THAT. THEY ARE ACTUALLY FEEDING INTO IT. THEY ARE THE PRODUCT OF THAT POLARIZATION. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY, WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT EACH OVER AS AMERICANS AGAIN. MARIA: YEAH. >> AND STOP HATING ON EACH OTHER. THEY ARE, BOTH OF THESE CANDIDATES HAVE FED IF THIS, YOU KNOW, THE FOREVER WARS. PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID THAT HE WAS GOING TO END UP, THEN, YOU KNOW, HE AGAIN SUPPORTED LAST WEEK $63 BILLION MORE TO UKRAINE. SO ALL OF THESE ISSUES ARE ISSUES THAT NEITHER OF THEM WANT TO TALK ABOUT, AND I'M GOING TO THE MAKE THEM TALK ABOUT IT, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO DO THAT. MARIA: LET'S TALK A LITTLE ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW SO OUR VIEWERS UNDERSTAND CLEARLY WHERE YOU ARE ON THESE ISSUES. NUMBER ONE, IMMIGRATION AND THE WIDE OPEN BORDER. WOULD YOU MOVE TO DEPORT THE 10 MILLION ILLEGALS IN THIS COUNTRY UNDER JOE BIDENS' WATCH? >> I WOULD SHUT DOWN THE BORDER OVERNIGHT, AND I'VE BEEN TO THE BORDER. EVERYBODY THERE IS CONFIDENT -- I'VE SPOKEN TO BORDER PATROL, LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE, PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER, LOCAL HOSPITALS AND LOCAL OFFICIALS, AND EVERYBODY IS CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN SHUT THIS BORDER OVERNIGHT WHICH IS DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY. MARIA: WOULD YOU DEPORT THE ILLEGALS THAT ARE ALREADY HERE? IF. >> WE WOULD DEPORT A LOT OF THEM. I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO TEAR APART FAMILIES. PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THIS COUNTRY, WHO HAVE BEEN IN THIS COUNTRY FOR A LONG TIME AND ARE PAYING TAXES, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT POPULATION. AND I'M NOT MAKING ANY POLICY COMMITMENTS ON THAT UNTIL THE BORDER IS SHUT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK AMERICANS WILL PUT UP WITH IT. MARIA: SECOND ISSUE, INFLATION RISING TO 40-YEAR HIGHS LARGELY BECAUSE OF $7 TRILLION IN OR BORROWING AND SPENDING BY THE DEMOCRATS. HOW WOULD YOU REIN IN INFLATION? >> WELL, I MEAN, WE NEED TO STOP THE SPENDING. AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE NEED TO WIND DOWN THE WAR MACHINE WHICH NEITHER CANDIDATE IS ABLE TO DO. WE NEED TO END THE CHRONIC DISEASE EPIDEMIC WHICH THESE TWO CANDIDATES HAVE PRESIDED OVER WHICH IS COSTING US $4.3 TRILLION A YEAR. THAT'S FIVE TIME OUR MILITARY BUDGET. IT'S THE SINGLE BIGGEST COST IN OUR ENTIRE BUDGET. WE NEED -- AND ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE THINGS THAT NEITHER PRESIDENT TRUMP OR PRESIDENT BIDEN IS EVEN TALKING ABOUT DOING. MARIA: OKAY. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP PROMISED THAT HE WOULD, THAT HE WOULD BALANCE THE BUDGET WITH, AND INSTEAD HE RAN UP THE BIGGEST DEFICIT IN HISTORY. AND PRESIDENT BIDEN'S DOING THE SAME THING. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE $4 MILK AND $4 BREAD AND $6 GASOLINE. AND OUR HOUSES ARE NOWEN A-- CAN NOW UNAFFORDABLE. WE HAVE A WHOLE GENERATION OF KIDS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO GET INTO HOME, AND WE NEED TO SOLVE THAT HOUSING CRISIS AS WELL. MARIA: MR. KENNEDY, LET ME ASK YOU YOUR THOUGHTS ON ABORTION WITH. DO YOU BELIEVE A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE AN ABORTION EVEN IN HER NINTH MONTH? >> WHAT I'VE SAID IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS AN INTEREST IN REGULAR RATING ABORTION -- REGULATING ABORTION WITH WHEN THE BABY REACHES VIABILITY. BEFORE THAT A WOMAN HAS ABSOLUTE RIGHT OVER BODILY AUTONOMYINGS, AND I'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR -- AWE ON THE AUTONOMY, AND I'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR MEDICAL FREEDOM PROBABLY A HARDER THAN ANYBODY IN THIS COUNTRY OVER THE A PAST 20 YEARS. BUT AT SOME POINT WHEN THE BABY, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS WHEN THE BABY REACHES VIABILITY, THE GOVERNMENT HAS AN INTEREST IN PROTECTING THAT CHILD. MARIA: MR. KENNEDY, I WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE ON WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE IN TERMS OF YOUR BATTLE WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN IN TERMS OF SECRET AND SERVICE PROTECTION. SECRET SERVICE PROTECTION. HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO GET SECRET SERVICE PROTECTION? I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN ASKING. I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING YOU ON SOCIAL MEDIA. WHY IS PRESIDENT BIDEN REFUSING TO ALLOW YOU TO HAVE SECURITY? >> I'M THE FIRST CANDIDATE IN, WELL, YOU KNOW, CANDIDATES BECAME ELIGIBLE AFTER ME FATHER'S ASSASSINATION IN 1968. I'M THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DATE IN ALL OF THAT TIME WHO HAS -- CANDIDATE IN ALL OF THAT TIME WHO HAS REQUESTED SECRET SERVICE PROTECTION AND HAS NOT GOTTEN IT. THE SECRET SERVICE THEMSELVES HAVE MADE AN ASSESSMENT AND HAVE FOUND THAT I AM AT ELEVATED RISK. I'VE HAD SEVERAL VERY WORRYING INCIDENCES SINCE I DECLEARED MY FINISH -- DECLARED MY CANDIDACY INCLUDING A MAN SHOWING UP DEMANDING TO SEE ME IN MY GREEN ROOM AT A RALLY IN LOS ANGELES. WHICH HOLSTERS, MANY GUNS ON HIM, LOADED WEAPONS AND FAKE FEDERAL ID. I MADE SIX APPLICATIONS TO THE WHITE HOUSE TO GET SECRET SERVICE PROTECTION. PRESIDENT BIDEN IS NOT ALLOWING ME TO GET IT. SO I THINK PROBABLY, I CAN'T REALLY LOOK INTO WITH HIS HEAD AND SPECULATE AS TO WHY HE'S MADE THIS DECISION. HE HAS -- MARIA: YEAH. >> HE WAS -- HE HAS A POSTER OF MY DAD BEHIND HIM AT THE OVAL OFFICE. HE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED TO MY YOU ARE FATHER. I THINK THE RISKS ARE CLEAR. I THINK THAT THE THEY PROBABLY FEEL THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO FORCE ME THE PAY FOR MY OWN SECURITY AND THAT THEY'D RATHER ME SPEND THAT MONEY ON SECURITY THAN ON ADVERTISING OR ORGANIZATION. MARIA: WOW. LOOK, THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT YOU DESERVE SECURITY, FOR SURE. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE THAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT. BUT LET ME GET YOUR TAKE ON THIS, YOU HEARD WHAT GREG MURPHY SAID AT THE TOP TO HAVE SHOW. MR. KENNEDY, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN SHOULD TAKE A DRUG TEST BEFORE THE DEBATE? [LAUGHTER] >> YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT, I JUST THINK THAT HE SHOULD HAVE IS ARE TO DEBATE. -- HE SHOULD HAVE TO DEBATE. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOOD FOR DEMOCRACY IF WE DON'T HAVE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE WITHS, AND I THINK THAT THE CANDIDATES OUGHT TO DEBATE. THEY OUGHT TO DEBATE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, WHO MEET THE CRITERIA -- MARIA: INCLUDING YOURSELF, YEAH. >> YEAH. MARIA: AND SO YOU DON'T WANT TO TOUCH THAT IN TERMS OF A DRUG TEST? >> NO, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THERE. MARIA: OKAY. >> I JUST WANT THEM ON THE DEBATE STAGE. MARIA: LOOK, YOUR FAMILY HAS BEEN ASSOCIATED IN POLITICS, YOU'VE GROWN UP IN POLITICS. WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED FROM THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, SIR? >> WELL, I THINK, MARIA, ONE OF THE REASONS I GOT INTO THE RACE WAS BECAUSE MY FEEL THING THAT WE'RE LOSING TOUCH WITH THIS VISION OF WHAT AMERICA'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE, THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A MORAL AUTHORITY AROUND THE WORLD AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE, E 'EM PLAYER DEMOCRACY -- EXEMPLARY DEMOCRACY. PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY OUGHT TO BE LIVING THE AMERICAN DREAM, YOU KNOW? THE CENTRAL PROMISE OF THE AMERICAN DREAM WHEN I WAS A KID WAS THAT IF YOU WORKED HARD, IF YOU PLAYED BY THE RULES, YOU COULD FINANCE A HOME, YOU COULD TAKE A SUMMER VACATION, YOU COULD PUT SOMETHING ASIDE IF FOR YOUR RETIREMENT. THERE'S NOBODY IN THIS GENERATION OF KIDS WHO ARE COMING UP NOW WHO BELIEVE THAT THAT PROMISE APPLIES TO THEM, AND I WANT TO MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE AMERICAN DREAM AS WELL. NEITHER OF THESE CANDIDATES ARE EXPLAINING HOW THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. MARIA: ARE YOU PLANNING ON DOUBLING DOWN ON THE CLIMATE CHANGE AGENDA IN TERMS OF THE ENVIRONMENTALISM, MR. KENNEDY? I WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CRITICISM ABOUT PRESIDENT BIDEN'S CLIMATE CHANGE AGENDA PARTICULARLY FOR BUSINESS. HE'S INSERTED LOT OF NEW RULES ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE AND THE IMPACT THERE. WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS THERE, SIR? >> I'VE BEEN CRITICAL OF PRESIDENT BIDEN'S CLIMATE -- FIRST OF ALL, I BELIEVE THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS EXIST TEN OR,. EXISTENTIAL. I DON'T BELIEVE, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S -- I DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE THAT. I BELIEVE THAT. I FOCUS ON OTHER ISSUES, ON ISSUES THAT ARE, ALL THE THINGS WE NEEDED TO DO TO SOLVE CLIMATE CHANGE WE OUGHT TO BE DOING ANYWAY. I THINK PRESIDENT BIDEN'S APPROACH WHICH IS AN APPROACH OF VERY, VERY HEAVY THE TOP-DOWN CONTROLS AND OF SUBSIDIES TO INDUSTRY FOR CARBON CAPTURE TECHNOLOGIES -- MARIA: RIGHT. >> -- THAT THAT IS A BAD APPROACH. WE OUGHT TO BE TALKING ABOUT HABITAT PROTECTION, WE OUGHT TO BE TALKING ABOUT REDUCING TOXINS IN OUR ENVIRONMENT. WE OUGHT A TO BE TALKING ABOUT REBUILDING OUR I SOILS. OUR SOILS. WE OUGHT TO BE TALKING ABOUT PROTECTING OUR CHILDREN FROM AIR POLLUTION, WATER POLLUTION. THIS IS WHAT I'VE DONE FOR 40 YEARS. I'VE BEEN A CHAMPION OF THOSE ISSUES, AND IF WE DO THOSE ISSUES RIGHT, THE CLIMATE'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ITSELF. MARIA: MR. KENNEDY, WE'D HIKE TO KEEP IN TOUCH WITH YOU TO SEE WHERE THESE NEGOTIATIONS GO WITH CNN, WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT ON THAT A DEBATE STAGE OR -
