Rescue Horse Is TERRIFIED Of It's Shelter

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because if she can get her head under here she could tear all this out just tap her with the end of the lead rope I feel like it's hitting her butt it is so you are touching her okay now we can see she's a little bit nervous you have to put enough pressure out there to create the effect of relief in here I have never put as much pressure on a horse as what another horse would do so we just got here in uh Sarah called us and said have some trouble with one of the horses staying in a stall if you kind of tell us a little bit about why you asked me to come on give you a hand here today well she is a rescue that I've had since about June and um we built the back side of the barn so we'd have enough room for all three of them but I find the two geldings in this front barn and they come in and out of the paddock all night long but they're blocked in there work great but she insists on being on the other side but has to be able to come over she can see them through the barn but I swear and she she can see them through the barn through the hay but that doesn't matter and she looks so what's the problem you're trying to put her by herself and just trying to put her in there just because the ceiling in this side is so short okay the other two would be they're fine in here so this is the and you're like locking them in and I'm locking them in at night it's like night time at night time I do and this but then when you lock her in she doesn't want to stay in no well when she's in the store by herself she looks like she's about to jump over the two by fours to get into the hay area and get to the boys so she's worked up and she's rolling around I think and I give her a minute and then I quit going open the door because I don't because she has jumped over the stall I mean over the uh trough so we had to put that piece of wood there okay she yep and then she hurts herself so so the main thing is we want her to get a little more self-confidence to be able to be in that pen by herself yeah let's just we'll take her over there okay um and put her in there and we'll see see how we go my plan is right now just to take her in there oh back up pick up good boy good girl that's cool hey hey let's relax so she's already getting a little something different yeah going in there but um you know and she likes she goes in and eats but I mean normally when I bring her in she wouldn't ever halt her on or anything she'd just be coming in from her field she'd start eating and while she was eating I would take her I would just close up the door so do you want me to try to do it um but you'd want to be inside you're saying she tries to jump out she tries to jump I mean and I don't know if she would jump I didn't take the chance yeah okay hey would you guys like to see more detailed training videos that show you step by step how to train your horse and work through common issues we have a huge video library on my patreon page as well as dropping new videos every week you can also send me a message on there and get questions answered by your horse you can even send videos for me to coach so it's a really great value at just ten dollars a month next January it's going to go up to 20 a month for all that so if you want to get in now for ten dollars make sure you get signed up and I'll look forward to seeing you on there so yeah I was just worried because she was able to jump over the trough so easy she's jumped over a side of the fence there which cut up her legs this last time I'm just I'm thinking that's nothing for her to jump over my husband put that one up but I want him to put another one up on the other side and even more in the middle like above my head so that I can still come in and out I I would I would add another one here as well and maybe even here because if she can get her head under here I bet she could tear all this down so I'll hold her I'm gonna get rid of that nut I might work with her a little bit and then I'll have you put the other two away oh yeah I'll take that out actually um it wouldn't be bad to to have some hay in here something that she could munch on okay so Sarah is getting organized here and in a perfect world so the the main outcome that we need is for the horse to find relief in the pen and be comfortable there so that the storm comes or bad weather we can Tucker away in her stall here now there's a couple of situations here um the horse is going to think that direction towards the other two now because of the setup over there I can't bring her that way and make it uncomfortable and then release her back here I have to come out this direction that's not ideal so what I'm going to do is I'm going to have Sarah stand on that side outside the fence with the flag and if the horse thinks over Sarah I'm going to have you work the flag kind of in her face not touch you don't even probably don't even need to touch her but just noisy enough that she yields away like ideally looks away okay and then I'll come back in um grab her again put her to work a little bit and then release her in here so the premise is hot lava out here relief in here okay so we're going to start that process and um I don't know if you want to look in here or come in and out the door however you want to do it so you can see what I'm doing but because you might need to set this up a couple of days in a row yep to get this fully settled and doing this at feeding time when you can release her in there with feed it'll be just fine so all I'm going to do you know when we talk about making it uncomfortable or hot lava somewhere else it's not as much about the work it's about me being noisy and putting pressure on her over here that's that's what it's about you know so you have to bring your life up and put a little pressure on here and then is this door free to swing shut yes okay it's got it does have a little bit of lock because gravity will close it yeah okay so I'm gonna go ahead and bring her in now and then all we're going to do is come in here and we're going to settle we'll see if she wants see she's already kind of thinking she wants out so I'm gonna let her go out and now we're going to run into a little pressure here okay so it doesn't have to take very long it doesn't have to be a lot and then we're going to come right back in but you can already see by her response she doesn't she doesn't think very highly of coming in here yet so we're not going to take her offline until she gets a little bit more willing but again if she wants oh she made a good choice there yeah but if she wants to head out she can head out there's a lick and chew so there she found relief in here oh look at you you got some hay over here you could eat too if you wanted now those of you watching this video don't get too excited about the hay part because it's more about you know you can you can make something positive but at the end of the day if you want to build depth of understanding you have to have a horse um that sees both sides of the equation there's pressure out here which makes it sweeter in here if all we relied on was feeding her in here and making it sweet that may not be enough foreign she didn't go as far to the door that time can you see how there's a little bit of progress already and um I think what I'll start to do now is play with closing this oh and she step on the Rope there she just wrecked I was like what happened there yeah she's a little flight engine yeah okay and there's a light on the other end as well so if she can see the boys better but she should be able to see them foreign so you can see when that door starts to shut she starts thinking about leaving town yeah and so so you can see we about the problem before we even uh I'm just gonna take her take her off wine yep I'll probably I'll probably have you step out okay um each time okay yeah so that was a much better response that time to closing this so we're kind of okay here but she's not as settled right now she's she's kind of whipping her head around um being a little bit nervous she'd kind of like to come out so if I open this door I bet she's gonna kind of want to think and we're gonna have to up the Annie out here make it just a little bit less fun because she's really blowing out there like she's very committed now I could restrain her from coming out but that wouldn't fix anything there she made a good choice but I can I can definitely see where your problem is yeah this issues there we go now I would like to address her head issue of whipping her head around yeah um because she that tells me just based on how she's doing that that that's an area that we need to be moving not just our hindquarters okay now we can see she's a little bit nervous but you're definitely going to have to work on her yielding her head a bit she's so pushy and flinging that around everywhere that it's it you're going to be careful to not get like whacked by her head uh moving around oh that was a little better deal see now I'm going to ask her to come out with me and again we have to make it uncomfortable out here and I have to be a little bit bigger out here because of how much she doesn't want to be in there okay and in order to be effective with it now she Bops her head around a lot in there and so I'm going to work on getting a little bit of control here over her head good come all back in oh she's not trying to jump over what at least she's not trying to jump over no well and what's interesting I actually like the fact that she's thinking out that door right now she's not thinking about over there as much but she's not settled in here yet and so we're just gonna we're gonna keep working at this until we get her settled but you're gonna probably gonna have to do this again tomorrow and you can see even by her uh defecating there that she's she's nervous in here you know and this is where she's supposed to relax and get her feed foreign oh you don't want to blow out of there huh I mean we had to be careful because I was like at the door halfway open and she was ready to to take off out of there so you're getting more hesitant coming out here because we're making it pressure out here again you're not out there for a long time just put a little bit of pressure make it uncomfortable so that it makes this look more like relief now now I can't come over here um every day and do this but if I could what I would do is I would today leave her online I would just do this online so my recommendation for you is to just do this with the halter and Lead rope honor for a few days um now I am going to start experimenting here like just at night when I'm putting her to you know when I'm putting her in for the night whatever you're doing currently I would keep doing that and not just try to leave her in here until you've gone through the pattern that I'm going to kind of lay out for you here so again right now I unclipped her so she's kind of for all intensive purposes she's she's uh loose but what I what I'm saying though is I would like to stay at this stage longer I don't where I'm kind of having to move forward here so I can show you all phases of this uh progression of the pattern that we're trying to create here um now be ready with your your stick over there okay I'm just gonna watch from outside here all right good job foreign I didn't know you had so much poop in you so I'm just kind of observing her here again and I'm recommending to Sarah that she sticks with the program that I was doing online several days before going to this okay and she got more nervous with me leaving oh you don't want to come out see it's good she is clever though she does she is figuring this out as we go here can you see that yes yes um I'm going to do that with her one more time and then I'm going to have you come in and do what I'm okay what I'm doing here we'll switch positions okay but you got to put a little bit of pressure on her out here I can't just bring her out here and walk her around because she is bothered about being in here and so I have to make this look like relief so you're gonna come in and you're gonna immediately close this door and then you're just gonna hang out here with her and we're just helping her get settled and then after you do this a few times then we'll start to turn turn or loose more and more and if you were by yourself what you would probably have to do next is you would uncla and again when you're in the training stage you're just going to unclip the lead rope I don't it takes too long to re-halter her and that sort of thing yep so you're just going to unclip that and then you can come step out over here and help her get comfortable this way so this would be the next next progression and you keep building okay you eventually get where you come and you stand you know further over here and again hopefully you have those boards up at that point where you can uh trust her a little bit more not to jump out go ahead and put pressure there good so even if it's just her nose yeah see because you're just saying it's uncomfortable here your relief is in that pen right there inside it yeah luckily I I get the impression from her that she's pretty reasonable she she definitely didn't want to be in there but she's thinking through this process she's not totally kind of losing it um and so I feel really option pressure pressure keep pressuring pressure do you see how she got in a worried mindset there and the Winnie kind of gave it away um is this better than yesterday oh yeah so you know that was a little softer yeah so now I want to come back in here and you'll come in with me and this time I'm going to have you take her outside go ahead and leave your tool in here okay so you're gonna take her now okay come stand over on the side and let her come all the way out give her room now Drive the hindquarters just like you saw me do pressure just the end of the the end of the lead rope and it doesn't have to be fast but just tap her with the end of the lead rope touch her with it I like to do more of an overhand swing and you actually touch her with it yep touch her with it good I never like that back into the stall I've never like hit her yeah I feel like it's hitting her butt it is so you are touching her but it's it's to put enough pressure on again to make it relief in here I'm gonna come in here with you and we'll kind of explain trying to hold her too much try to just let her settle because again she was so worried about being in here and trying to blow out of here so much when this door started closing that you have to put enough pressure out there to create the effect of relief in here does that make sense yes let's say let's give it a number and this is really important for you to understand this this concept that I'm about to share so most people don't want to be firm with the horses right and I I have to explain this to people there's so many different ways to explain it and I'm not going to get into all the details but if you if you haven't already go back and watch the video of how much pressure is too much pressure we have that video it's a it's an audio talk that we did explaining the more depth of what I'm about to share with you let's say a scale of pressure zero is no pressure 10 is like oh my gosh you just like did is there's no more pressure that you could possibly put on a horse okay that's 10. she felt pressure by being in here by herself that's why she wanted to jump out so let's give that a number okay and what it was today because I would say today was probably less than when she thought about jumping out yes I'd say it was like a six today yeah okay so then we gotta make it a nine you gotta make it a six point one at least oh right right does that make sense right in order to make this look better right so in order to make that look like hot lava and this looked like relief we have to put more pressure on out there which is why I needed you to actually tap her and put a little bit of pressure on you know more than just swinging it at her in order to create this effect and you can see she's getting more and more relaxed you can see by how much she went to the bathroom in here that she was very nervous but she's getting more and more settled like now she's rubbing yeah she probably could eat now yeah um this sort of thing so this was a big deal to help her get more settled um and you were pressuring her at like a nine though out there at first because you were realizing how upset she was getting the amount of pressure I was putting on there I would probably give it a six and a half oh really okay okay yeah you're lucky yeah there could be more it could be more um and I'm just being honest and a lot of one of the things that I make imagine if every horse could get trained with patience Thyme and cookies like there would be no need there would be you know I'd be able to work around a job because there's plenty of people that could have time patients cookies and you could get a horse settled but the psychology of the way horse is working if you just watch how they interact with each other and how much pressure they put on I have never put as much pressure on a horse as what another horse would do never gone there have you seen I've been watching as I've had all three of them here now I mean they can I mean they can be really vicious with each other over a pile of hay right you know and so us putting a little pressure on it seems like like tapping her with that that seems like a lot to you that's like another horse just doing a little nip I mean it's not because I heard it once and I was gonna ask you did you actually hit her but yeah I tapped her I know you know what you're doing yeah yeah I did I tapped it preferably out there because she was trying to blow through the door and at that moment she was like a seven or an eight in here and so I went to a seven or an eight out there and that was really the one that was the most effective yeah you know your horses can learn through repetition but they also need in order to be effective with a horse you have to be effective pressure causes the relief to be effective yeah that makes sense that makes sense and again I wish in some ways I wish this wasn't true because I don't I don't want to put pressure on him either I'd rather just come and pet him but the truth is the horses would be so drainable if that's all it took and it takes a little bit more than that you know and this is where you know you know there's times where I see how troubled a horse is about something and I might go this isn't worth it to do to try to work through that like we we have to find a workaround we can't we can't fix this you know and and so I use my experience of training thousands of horses to determine what level is fair to that horse and and you know given the horse's age and given how important it is to do what we're ever we're doing and that sort of thing um so there's a lot of there's a lot of thought and method that goes into understanding when is it okay to put a pressure on a horse and being fair about that but I am very convinced she is more settled and more comfortable right now than at any point when I've been here and even when I unhooked her the number one gift we can give horses is helping them feel comfortable yeah and so by putting pressure on her out there we've allowed this horse to feel more comfortable in here and that's at the end of the day that's what we're here to do is help her get comfortable in here you can see her taking a breath She's Not Afraid of us you know it's like again here's here's a little proof if I walk over here you know is she super afraid of me moving is she jumpy is she spooking you know no and no it's because I did it in a way that she understood it so what's what what one of the most important things is helping horses understand pressure horses are usually troubled not because of pressure they're troubled when they don't understand it she didn't understand the shelter with the door being closed that felt like pressure her she didn't have a good reason to be bothered you can see how much she's letting down in here now so let's go ahead and unclip her here and just see let's go ahead and go full send let's see what we got here because she's really settled right now with all the yawning she's having a big dopamine release right now coming off of a little bit of cortisol and and adrenaline let's just see how she does I'll see her jumping out and the other horses are Winnie into her so is this a different deal than what you've done okay yeah yeah and again I get why people don't want to put pressure on their horses and touch them and be effective with the tools but the little bit of tapping that we did out there to me definitely just was justified compared to the amount of relief that this horse is getting in here I want to be warmer all winter yeah she'll be more comfortable it's like but she and it was just that she didn't understand yeah that's what it was you know it wasn't that the shelter was bad it was that she didn't understand that she could be comfortable and settled in here yes so tonight in the next few days I'll start um like through the weekend I'll do what we were doing I'll keep her on the halter yeah and Lead Road it's been taught it's taught to her you can see how settled she is now so this the lesson has been learned now you need to do a few more repetitions of it so that if a week or two goes by that she's not really in here it's good weather and then one day you're like oh it's Storm's going we got to put you in here and she doesn't understand that she'll she'll be okay with it because of the prep work that we did and that's the other one of my big things is trying to do this when things are going well so the best time to practice this is when you don't have to lock her in right now you know and tonight though because it's going to be I think it's supposed to be like 29 or something tonight maybe it's not supposed to be that cold but the next few days supposed to be that cold yeah I'll just keep practicing it but not leave her in here with the door closed yet until she until you're getting this consistently or even right away where she can and a good good way to tell that would be can she come in here and start eating right away right so when you're doing this I would definitely have her food in here and let her eat yeah but when you're practicing she may be better about not trying to bolt out of there right away and so you can go ahead and take her out of there and then again when she gets this settled you can start off by unclipping the snap you can see the natural progression and all the way to taking the halter off because I actually fluff up her hay because otherwise she grabs the leaf and drags it outside and it's like well we're wasting I mean it's very I hope this video comes through to you guys watching how obvious it was that she didn't want to be in here um it was pretty clear and we've helped her get a lot more settled and yes we did put some pressure on her amazing that that little bit of meanness but it wasn't mean it was the issue being the head horse yeah exactly you have to do this if that's mean then you got to look at any natural behavior to a horse ends up being mean because that's how horses communicate with each other it's not mean we think of it like that but that's not how they think about it you know have you seen two have you ever seen are you guys watching if you've ever and somebody watching may not own horses but two horses will go at it double barrel on each other kicking and kicking and kicking and then go stand right next to each other eating a hay pile grooming each other like they don't see that they actually feel more comfortable through that leadership you know you could say that if you see a parent disciplining a child oh they're mean no right they're they're they love them and they're giving them boundaries and Leadership so that they can have confidence to know what's right and what's not appropriate behavior and um you know this is getting into philosophical and some people are going to disagree with me and that's okay um but you guys can determine the results that you're looking for yourself she was uh pinning her ears back every once in a while or she'd lift a back leg when I'd go to feed her I said I'd put her food down but then I'd set her Mash down and so I started from one of your videos I thought it was one of yours I started keeping her away from the food just for like two minutes excellent and then she doesn't do it anymore yeah it's like wow she's getting a little bit dominant yeah so she she was anxious because she was running the show a little bit this is wonderful yeah I feel good I know what should I do now pretty cool huh yep really really cool so tell us what you're doing what are your takeaways from this just to keep practicing get having her halter on her lead rope bring her outside you know seeing how she is bringing her in have food here for her and as soon as she starts getting wound up a little bit take her outside and one of the things I would really like to compliment you on is the first time that I let you go do that or let you but the first time you tried it yourself you did it you put enough pressure on her that we've gotten this result this was after you did this and so you were effective right away with what I was showing you some people have a really hard time putting that bringing their life up and meaning what they're saying and you did it right away so it's really good appreciate that yep because I feel like with the three of them I am starting at Ground Zero and I I'm just learning from watching you guys awesome do you feel like you have a better understanding of how to make this shelter relief compared to uh outside yes all right good deal well thanks for calling us now I'm just come out keep practicing and I think you'll have a horse I'll be very happy and content in her shoulder [Music]
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Channel: Ryan Rose
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Length: 26min 35sec (1595 seconds)
Published: Tue Nov 22 2022
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