Refugee Highway (virtual mission trip)

all right so i want to go ahead and get us started here i'm sure some more people will trickle in but we're going to try to leave relatively on time um you might have asked yourself why did we choose such an unusual hour of the day to do this meeting and that's because we have uh jeremy talfero with us from uganda and so uh we love having the live element but that certainly put it on a saturday morning so i know we've lost several people to sports and whatnot that have now been uh getting uncanceled so that's both exciting and a little bit sad for us right now i'm gonna go ahead and post the handout the link to the handout here this has information on our speakers it has bible study notes you should have received this in the previous emails we have some coloring pages for kids and that kind of thing and some afghan recipes to try uh if you're interested in trying that i remember my first time having afghan food i had no idea what to expect now mind you the only things i had seen about afghanistan were coming across the news at that time and our military was in there so it's just pictures of fighting and i thought you know i know what indian food is i know a chinese food i know what all these other foods are but i've just never had a context it was some of the best food i've had and to date it's one of my favorite uh food regions um yeah so in this uh in this call uh i know we've got a lot of people in here but please keep your microphone on mute towards the end we will go into breakout rooms and we'll have some prayer time feel free to unmute and pray with your group i will post the prayer points into the chat so you'll be able to see them as well but they're also there in your handout if you have your handout with you also please don't hit your screen share button i have to enable that so our speakers can share their screens but but don't do that i will de-plane you if that happens also if you have questions feel free to type them into the chat bubble we will have time for q a at the end and so if you've typed them in that will just give us some advance on so whoever the speaker is um you know just type the speaker's name and put a question there and we'll try to we'll try to get to that at the end and then in the packet if you click that link or you've printed the packet on the last page there's a grid and that grid is going to be used right here this is going to be used for one of the exercises that our houston welcomes refugee folks are going to do for us i also wanted to talk about one of the uh one of the coloring pages i realized we don't have any kids on the call this morning but if you have kids in your family or kids around i'm sure this is something hwr would appreciate this page is something that they use correct me if i'm giving bad information cindy but but children who color this in this gets shared with a refugee family that's moving into houston that's correct okay cool so uh if you want to have your kids or grandkid or if you want to colored in yourself you know adult coloring is is a thing now and so if you want to color it in yourself uh you know just paint this a pretty picture and get it into me and i'll share it with uh with our hwr friends so um our first thing that that we do on a mission trip is we want to have a biblical perspective and so if you ever come on a willcrest trip um early on in the trip people really get angsty about how much training i put them through until they get thrown in the deep end and then they realize this was for a reason and they're really grateful that they went through it and i have a thick enough skin i can weather the discomfort of people's opinions and so we always like to start with what does the bible say about what we're doing what is the right heart that we should have and so i want to share a short uh kind of devotional with you this morning and this is coming out of psalm 107 1-8 i'm aware that this is a fairly dicey time in our country for any number of reasons uh kovid there's a lot of racial tension happening now there's protests and counter protests there's riots but election years in general people tend to really try to speak to their base and to use inflammatory language to to hit their base and [Music] immigration always becomes a hot topic and this isn't a i know a lot of times it gets portrayed as being a republican or conservative issue but um this is a right and left issue built both presidents on both sides in the last you know three or four administrations have had lots of things to say and have done lots of things there's actually a netflix uh documentary right now called immigration nation and if you get past the first episode they actually start talking about some of the other administrations but it's quite fascinating to see how different presidents have handled this um but i know for myself working cross-culturally here in houston election season there's always a time i try to keep my head down uh because we get shot at a lot because um i've done a lot of work with muslims and with refugees and so uh it can be this is texas it can get dicey fast but god's heart is different from our heart so psalm 107 1-8 says oh give thanks to the lord for he is good his steadfast love endures forever let the redeemed of the lord say so whom he has redeemed from trouble and gathered in from the lands from the east from the west from the north from the south some wandered in desert wastes finding no way to dwell in a city hungry and thirsty their soul fainted within them they cried to the lord in their trouble and he delivered them in their distress he led them by a straight way till they reached a city to dwell in let them thank the lord for his steadfast love for his wondrous works to the children of man so the first i have some fill in the blank things there in the handout the first thing it says god has blank for refugees i didn't want to give it away in my main point so my central idea was god has keen love and purpose for those who are refugees i don't want to give that away but the the biblical word for that is steadfast love and this is such a central concept to the entire old testament is god's steadfast love and so he's chosen a people he's called them out from abraham through the old testament to demonstrate his steadfast love in fact if we were to walk through the psalms certain psalms like psalm 115 and 87 and probably just about every other psalm is mentioning god's steadfast love to the degree that i remember writing a note in the margin of my bible saying mission in the old testament is the public declaration of god's steadfast love to his people and so this is something that god wants to show to the refugees and so the the next blank is god has a uh a purpose for his steadfast love and that purpose is that he redeems um and so we see this you know first one let let uh give thanks lord he's good at steadfast loving jewish forever let the redeemed of the lord say so he has redeemed them from trouble and so god is looking for people who are in trouble to redeem them but this redemption isn't i mean in our minds we hear redeeming we're thinking future salvation not here and now uh life transformation or situation transformation and so in redeeming the refugees this point number three god shows his sovereignty and he names these directions over the east the west the north the south we say jesus is lord and we use this term as a term of endearment sort of like jesus is you know god is my grandpa or he's pappy or he's it's almost like we use like an abba father kind of statement but when we say lord um this is he is he's the dominant one he has rule he has control and so here in this psalm he's mentioning the places that he's gathered them and so the whole old testament is the story of dispersion and gathering dispersion and gathering so you have adam and eve who are dispersed um you know tower of babel this was a wrongful gathering because they're supposed to be being dispersed and filling going out and filling the world we see his people gathering in the land of israel then being dispersed we see the church gathering we see in mission the church being scattered and so there's this constant gathering and scattering but the places that he gathers from them from the lands verse 3 is the east the west the north and the south and so this is showing god's total lordship over the whole world and we see this in psalm 2 that he makes the earth his footstool and now we see the kind of people that god has concerned for god cares for uh the wanderer the hungry the weak the troubled um all of this is is coming out of verse five hungry and thirsty their soul fainted with them they cried to the lord their trouble he delivered them from their distress uh i think for us in our world there's so much media that we are being inundated with uh that shows problems throughout the whole world that it's very easy to get fatigued and to kind of put everything on mute um i know i did this during covid right during cove early in covet and i'm following all the numbers tracking everything trying to see where it's going at a certain point like you know i haven't checked the news on kovid and i think the last time i saw was president trump has coveted now um but he'd been maybe a month and i just i just stopped watching i couldn't i couldn't deal with it but god is actually looking for those people and the final thought is he brings the refugee to a city um and this comes by seven verse seven he led them by a straight way till they reach the city to dwell in and so this is part of our urban missions class that we did from last year but there's a purpose for cities and i see a city like ours or if you see a refugee camp to a degree that's a bit of a makeshift uh city that's probably being stretched this at the seams but all through scripture from the beginning to the end we see that god has a heart for the foreigner for the people who are vulnerable leviticus 19 34 he tells his people you shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you you shall love him as yourself for you were strangers in the land of egypt i am the lord your god and so he's reminding them of their own their own narrative of being wanderers which i think for many of us we have forgotten um i know with my last name you say it a bear even though it looks like hebert that's because it's french right so for us it's really hard to forget um my grandmother was the last one speaking a different language and this was educated out in the government schools here so it's a little bit harder for us to forget it's it's a closer memory for us but i think it's easy to just forget oh yeah we just live here we belong here but god is reminding his people hey you were wandering in the desert and i picked you up and carried you over here and so that's what i want you to do uh deuteronomy 27 19 cursed be anyone who perverts the justice due to the sojourner the fatherless and the widow and so god is putting certain people in a category where they are vulnerable and susceptible to exploitation and this is an actual curse against them but we see god's purpose isn't uh you know people getting this debate on is it social care or is it gospel care and i don't see the bible making that distinction so a lot of those statements were about you know their hunger their place to stay all of those kinds of things but uh acts 17 26 27 says he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth having determined allotted periods and boundaries and their dwelling place that they should seek god and feel their way towards him and find him and so when i look at uh internationals in houston when i look at what god is doing through the global diaspora we'll call it so so not every person who leaves their country is a refugee though that is a certain particular group but god is mixing the nations right now and we can lean into that with fear and go oh my gosh they're coming here what are we going to do or we can look with god's purpose and go well what is god's purpose in allowing the world to be changing like it is right now and acts 17 would say it's so that they can feel their way like they're in the dark groping for the for the the light switch and so that they'll find him and so this is god's heart for the wanderers he has a special place for them he has a special concern for them and it's a way for him to show his steadfast love in most not biblical like they're they're right but biblical time period pagan religions people want to show favor and preference to those who can help them and this makes me look good if i have someone of note to my house this makes me look good because i'm able to have an honorable person to my house no one wants to have a refugee over no one wants to have a stranger over a poor person over and yet here in this psalm we see that god's heart is looking for the people who who don't bring him honor uh per se it's not about that person's honor it's about god's honor okay so without further ado uh we're going to move right along to jeremy and so jeremy why don't you share with us well it's a pleasure to be with you guys today some of you may have met me before and some of you may have it but willcrest is one of my absolute favorite churches in the whole planet i actually speak about you guys a lot um i've written about you and so my books and um i just feel like you guys have a really special place in my heart part of that is because of the multicultural nature of the church but i must admit another part has to do with you know jonathan williams who was one of my missionaries whenever we were um on the field in peru and you know he's like we're very close with jonathan and we love him a lot and uh are just really proud of the way that he leads will crest and um the vision that he that he sets forth for you guys and so it's always a pleasure to be with you guys and to hang out and to talk and uh unfortunately today it's over thousands of miles but maybe sometime in the next couple years i'll be able to be with you in the flesh again sometime um but i'm gonna i think the last time i spoke at willcrest i wasn't doing refugee work so some of you may be confused when did jay start doing refugee work well i'll kind of give you a little bit of the narrative and get you up to speed tell you some stories about what god's doing and kind of where we're at right now um so i was leading um our region for the imb uh for a few years and during that time was whenever the war was going on in south sudan you know there had been a lot of fighting in the sudan in the northern part uh but there the war had kind of started to break out in 2013 in south sudan people were starting to trickle over the border and so we began to kind of develop a strategy in our heads for how will we be able to address these issues but at that point i was doing it from a distance i wasn't personally involved with it i was trying to build a strategy for a future team to address that issue and so um but between 2013 and 2016 things got increasingly worse and we were less and less able to travel within the country of south sudan and so basically we had missionaries in two locations but they couldn't travel anywhere outside with maybe a 10-mile radius of their homes because of landmines and fighting and ambushes and those types of things and so it became really restrictive now at the time there were about 52 unreached people groups in the country of south sudan but we couldn't get access to almost any of them because of the conditions in the country and so as a leader who my job was the strategy developing strategy for how we reach these tribes was really frustrating because there was not a lot that we could do and you know we prayed through that a lot just tried to find you know seek out ideas and those types of things whenever i was back in the states in 2016 for our furlough things got really bad in um south sudan and people we started we had to start pulling our people out and it was during 2016 that things got when things were getting so bad that the refugees began to flood over about between 3 000 and 4 000 every day we're crossing the border into uganda and so um overnight these pretty good-sized cities of refugees you know basically popped up there here on the border and um basically what happened the long story short is i was asked to kind of head up that task because it's really out of the box task like it's not the type of thing that the imb does on the day-to-day basis and if you guys know me you know i'm kind of i've never been in the box i've never met a box and so i kind of hang out outside the box and so it was really a good match for me but having been a church planter for almost two decades it was a huge shift because this involved humanitarian aid and a lot of things so we had to develop an ngo and a platform and all those things that i've never done before and so you know we had to walk through that process and figure out some new things and the lord was really gracious and opened our eyes to a lot of opportunities around us and we began to meet some refugees thankfully some of the missionaries that we had trained in south sudan uh ended up being refugees just about an hour from our house and so we started gathering with them we planted a church nearby where they were staying and uh began to meet with some of those folks well those people weren't from south sudan those ones were from sudan primarily from the darfur region and the nuba mountains region which if you know anything about sudan those are both very very strong muslim areas but also areas that have been persecuted for decades and so we came across quite a few people from there that we started to spend time with and there were a handful that were believers there were others that became believers and i'm going to tell you a story about a guy named salah he is my dear friend and i met him through one of the missionaries that we trained but i want to tell you his story so that you can kind of see i i i think brian's right you know these things are really politicized but all of the refugees that i know they don't have any desire to go to america they want to go back home like that's their desire and i think the politicization of everything just gives the the wrong impression and so i wanted to share about salah salah whenever i met him he was a muslim and he was the halal butcher in that area of the camp and so the the uh the muslims would only buy meat from him because he was the only one who was allowed to to uh butcher meat for muslims and so he was very highly esteemed in that area and one of the things that he told me whenever he shared his testimony with me was that he noticed that whenever the humanitarian aid things were happening in the camp that the muslim organizations would come in and they would help muslims they would give food to muslims they would give clothes to muslims they would give benefits to muslims but they wouldn't help christians and he said and i noticed whenever the christians came they helped everybody they didn't care what country you were from what color you were they didn't care what religion you were they helped everybody and he said that was the first seed of doubt that entered my heart because i knew in my heart something's not right about that like why would they just help people like them that doesn't seem right and so he started spending more time with christians in the camp because you know they're in uganda and the same restrictions that they had in sudan were not there because they couldn't be shunned because they were speaking to to um christians so he began to build some friendships with some christians and he didn't want he wanted to learn more but he didn't want to expose himself to the community um that he was interested in christianity and so he did something really interesting there was uh there have been a lot of little um bible schools and seminaries that have actually popped up in the refugee camps here in uganda um which is really fascinating but he thought the best place for me to learn about christianity is at a seminary and there was a baptist church in fact one that we planted that was kind of like a center where people were coming together and filling out applications so they could go to this seminary and he had one of his christian friends smuggle him out now you were supposed to go in fill it out and give it to the pastor he had one of his friends smuggle out an application he filled it out at home and he had his friend smuggle it back into the stack and he was a muslim he was not a christian at all but he got help filling it out and he got accepted to go to the seminary which was about an hour and a half uh drive from his home here in in rhino camp he went up to beatty camp and while he was there he heard very clearly the gospel over about a six week period while he was living there and he became a christian and so he came back and began instead of being the halal butcher and he just began preaching in the streets and proclaiming gospel and they were like wait a minute like you're a muslim and he was like i was a muslim but i'm not a muslim anymore and let me share with you why and salah because he was so well respected people were listening to him he became one of the elders fairly quickly within the church that we planted and a really a very dear friend of mine now i'm going to come back to sallah here in a few minutes but i want to share with you kind of what god has done with this crisis in south sudan um as i shared with you in 2016 whenever the war started breaking out previous to that we weren't able to get to these people groups um but whenever the war broke out and everybody started flooding into the country every one of those people groups crossed the border every one of them and so of the 52 people groups every single one of them are represented within two hour drive of my house right now every single one of them and many of them are in in places of need where we can help by building them a house or by drilling a water well nearby them or by providing clothes for some of their children or trauma healing classes for for those who've undergone severe trauma and so yeah to me it's just fascinating how god takes the disasters that happened in the world and redeems them and he literally brought every one of those people groups that we right now we can't go into south sudan and travel even today but yet i can drive between one and two hours from my house and i can have contact with every one of those people groups sharing the gospel and meeting needs um and we've seen lots of people come to christ we've seen churches pop up all over um to return back to salah the the areas of sudan that we saw really a lot of movement of the holy spirit were people who were from darfur people who were from the mountains and it just seemed that whenever they came to christ there was just this passion in this fire in them uh because they what they would share was like i have been deceived my whole life and it disturbed them they lost sleep because they are concerned about their mothers and their fathers and their brothers and sisters who are still back in sudan who yet to hear the gospel and so many of them started coming to me and saying hey we're praying about going back home we need help can you train us can you prepare us and so we began that process i guess about a year ago um and that continues even now salah came to me um this is probably in january maybe december or january um i i don't know if you guys pay any attention but sudan had some major changes and there was basically a revolution that happened in khartoum and all of the military presence that had been in these two areas of darfur and mountains to basically control these tribes uh was called up to come and help in the capital and whenever that happened and all of that kind of military presence dispersed the gospel just broke loose and uh salah came to me in january of this year and he said jay i have to go back to nuba mountains and you know he is a dear friend of mine and i'm like well okay like why we got to go right now you know what's what's going on and he said i got word from my hometown uh on the telephone this week that 752 people came to christ in my home village this week he said jay i can't sit here surrounded by christians in a refugee camp whenever people in my home village are coming to christ he said i have to be a part of this and so he did he went back i haven't heard from him for a couple of months the first few months he stayed in fairly good contact but i think that communication has been difficult since then uh but i'm in contact with about 15 guys who are all planning on going back to um darfur and nuba mountain specifically not not because they specifically just want to go home but because they want to go home to share the gospel with people who haven't heard and i know too i know salah and another friend of mine whose name is nasser who have both returned and are very excited about what god's doing there so i see this as as i explain it to others like what our situation is is right now we have a very small window in which to invest into these future missionaries uh that are going to go places that we are not able to go uh they will be returning and there's no question there are people i know right now that are packing they have their backs packed they're ready to go um but like we have a few years maybe to prepare them to disciple them to mentor them to get them both physically and emotionally prepared to return home many of them have undergone severe trauma and so we're providing for them trauma healing helping them to find purpose in the suffering and the hardship that they have gone through um some of them have absolutely no biblical training uh and so we're providing theological education for them there in the camps um we had a group come out early this year i'm going to say it was january that they came and we have bought a bunch of study bibles and we're training pastors how to use the study bible and that sounds so elementary to people from america but most of these pastors they have had zero training they don't have any commentaries they don't have any access to anything and i know several pastors who don't even own a bible and so how exactly are they supposed to lead a church and so we've been given we've been donated a bunch of these um study bibles and so we'll go in and we'll do a one-day training uh on how to use a study bible and in the morning we'll train them how to to you know utilize cross-references and all the notes and those types of things but in the afternoon of the training we teach them how to prepare a teaching or sermon and it's a one day thing but it has absolutely revolutionized everything because many of the churches that we have they've gone from basically a pastor getting up there and kicking the dirt with his hands in those pockets trying to come up with something to say to actually understanding and being able to share a good gospel message with his congregation on sundays and so they're able to grow and we're empowering the the nationals to do the work uh rather than us stepping in and doing it for them because they're obviously more capable in so many different ways uh just a couple things that i've learned through the process um i think that having been a church planter in remote places for most of my career i had the privilege of actually going in and just doing that planning churches we would meet some small needs here and there but it wasn't a big push of what we did in the early part of our career as missionaries but in moving into this role one of the things that i have i guess recognized i was a little bit late to this game but as you read in the gospels it seems like jesus always has something in each hand um in one hand he brings help whether it's food for the hungry uh whether it's healing for the sick he brings some kind of physical practical help and then he follows that up with spiritual nourishment and as i started reading through the gospels again moving into this task i was like how have i not seen this all along that jesus carried both of those things all the time it seems that most of my career i have just carried um you know gospel truth and teachings but i have failed to really put a whole lot of focus on the humanitarian needs of the people that that we've been working with and so we've just basically developed our strategy around that we're going to bring physical help and we're also going to bring spiritual help and it's transformed everything that we've done because it's given us access to people um that we would have never had access to and uh they listened to us because first we feel we we fill their bellies and we build homes for them and we do you know we provide water for them and all doing all those things help us to be able to share the gospel in a way that actually goes beyond just the words because they have they've felt the love that we have for them the christian charity that we have shared with them so yeah i guess that's a nutshell i know that i don't think have i gone over yet no i'm still within time right uh you're you're right at it all right jeremy uh we really appreciate it uh so we're going we're going to have a couple people share some shorter stories these are folks who are working here in houston uh the first of these is going to be by video if you can't hear make some kind of sound so i know to turn it off and we'll uh we'll move on with something else but um yeah here we go this is the first one these are the kiwis hi everyone my name is randy keaney and this is my wife brooke we have four kids as well ages 10 through 5. um we just want to thank brian for the opportunity to share with y'all a little bit about how our family has been able to get connected with and serve and love families in our area that have come from iraq and afghanistan and other war-torn areas families who have endured much suffering and you know been we believe sovereignly selected by god to come to this nation you know ultimately for an opportunity to hear the gospel and to believe in jesus and to go and take that message of salvation back to to friends and families back home and some of the hardest to reach nations uh on earth so we just viewed as a great strategic opportunity a way to disciple our kids and to help them understand god's heart for the nations that he desires to be loved and worshiped by people from every tongue try the nation to faithfully be praying for these families and just calling out to god for for them for him to bring salvation to their household so it's just been a wonderful blessing to our family and a lot of great friendships have been made as we've just been been you know faithfully uh going about in this ministry for the last couple of years so with that i'm going to let brooke share a little bit more about some of those families yeah i just wanted to share a few personal stories just about some families that we've been able to connect with over the last couple of years and to befriend and um just wanted to encourage everyone that this is something you can do this is something you can do with your kid our youngest son is five years old and when he was i think two and a half or three he was coming along with us and he was playing games and tag and hide and seek and running around with the other kids and it didn't matter if they spoke dari and he spoke english or arabic or um they were able to just play and to connect and to have fun and it was just such a blessing to us just to see the families with their faces lit up you know you think about them coming here they don't have anything they usually come sometimes with just a plastic bag or even nothing if they've been living in a refugee camp and they're starting a completely new life here with a different culture and a different um way of doing things and a lot of times they don't meet any american families for a really long time and so um it's just been really neat to be able to just go through life with some of these families just like we do with our church families and just to introduce them to this is how the school system works here's how the grocery store is this is how you get a driver's license and just um just see them discovering new things as they um acclimate to american culture and then um you know just as they see us with our family and they come over to our homes and they see scripture on the wall and they know that we go to church and um they've invited them to christmas christmas eve services we've given bibles in their language and as we've developed friendships with them and they trust us and we have a relationship with them it's really opened up an opportunity to really share with them the truth of the gospel and almost i think i've been in a lot of foreign countries and i almost feel like it's easier here when the they they come here to our country because they're really actually wanting american friends they don't think we're suspicious and they don't think we have some other you know ulterior agenda but they really want to know what do you believe and what makes you do this and i remember getting a text from one of our afghan friends and she said i don't understand why your family is so kind to us it was like she set us up to share um to share the gospel with them and um it's just really it's a humbling privilege to be able to meet people from countries where there's no church there's no gospel maybe they've never met another christian and i told my kids that i'm like you made me the first christian kid that they've ever met um and there's a great weighty responsibility with that but also a joy that god allows us to be a part of his kingdom work and sharing his good news of jesus to these people that may have never heard it if they had stayed in their home country um and so we're just you know thankful for the opportunity to do that thankful to do that with um with our kids and you know we do honestly get pushed back from the kids because they would and myself too because honestly i don't always want to give up two hours on a saturday or give my free time maybe when my kids are at school to go take someone to lunch or to just listen to them and have a cup of tea sometimes it is easier to just write a check or to like fill a box with food um but you know when you invest in the relationship and the friendship it just makes such a difference and it forges the ties with the families especially coming from cultures where relationships and family and community is so important and maybe something we're lacking here in the states um a little bit and so um we've actually learned so much about hospitality and friendship from a lot of our refugee family friends i remember the one afghan family and he said my home is your home my home is your home you are always welcome here always welcome here and i had to think to myself could i say that back like is someone always welcome in my home or are there times that are that are inconvenient he i think he honestly met any time day or night if we needed something their home and what they had even though it was so small was available available to us and um i just have seen so many opportunities to just share god's love and seeing um that opportunity to share the gospel with with the different families as we've as we've built these relationships so um we have so many other stories we could we could share with you and just different experiences and um just there's facts and statistics and all these things about um refugees that i know you'll learn today as well but if you remember that behind every one of those facts and statistics is a soul and is a person and a family that's in need in the image of god and we have the opportunity to introduce them um to the best news they could possibly hear which is better news than getting resettled in america there's better news than getting out of a workforce country their best news and the best hope they have in their true refuge is in jesus and um anyways that's that's what our family we feel has been called to do during this season and we're very grateful for the opportunity we would love to answer any other questions that anyone has um text us email us come on for dinner let's grab a cup of coffee um hop along with us to to come and visit some of these families and we know that you'll be blessed as you see god at work um among the refugees in houston thank you all god bless you all right our next story is going to come from melody okay and i'll be i'll be pretty quick um so uh you know it it's a little challenging when brian first asked me this because i was like well i've worked with houston welcomes refugees and i've been on welcome teams and i've done that but i don't really mine haven't necessarily been the success stories um as far as like really building the solid relationships like bikinis were just talking about and um but it has been it has been really humbling um so i was on a welcome team most recently with a family from afghanistan it was a mom and her her teenage son who came and uh and so just now we weren't able to we weren't able to have the whole time our full commitment with that family because of covid and just some other struggles with getting in touch with them but um but it was really humbling to hear their stories and to know that like the mom especially like she put her life at risk every single day trying to get the opportunity to come here and um and so you know she was able to come here but then it was heartbreaking because they had to leave part of their family behind and they didn't really want to be here but we're here because you know because it wasn't safe for them where they are and then they come here and you know and this is you know i think there are just a lot of attitudes in this country where you know they're they're not necessarily welcomed you know and just and and so just realizing that like i get to have a small role in showing them that they're loved and showing them that they are welcomed here they are wanted here um has just been really humbling um really humbling and really exciting for me and you know while i wish that things had turned out differently with this family and you know that we'd had more of that connection you know i am grateful for the little bit of time i was able to spend with them and um and yeah just to to learn more about more about their stories and just recognizing that like the things that they put themselves through just to to come here and i wanted to read something i recently read a book called um it's called beautiful resistance uh written by john tyson and you know and i think over the last several years god has um has been moving in my heart and showing me more of his heart for the marginalized and um and putting that hard in me and giving me greater empathy and um so there's something i read recently that i wanted to share um as far as you know when it comes to what is god's heart for the outsider it says the reason god calls us to um well it talks so he's talking about hospitality and the importance of showing hospitality to um to the foreigner um and love for the other and he says the reason god calls us to this kind of love is that this is the way he has loved us we often forget what our lives were like before god saved us we project ourselves into the story of salvation in distorted ways misreading scripture as though we were the insider group we we read as if jesus came to reaffirm our belonging and acceptance but nothing could be further from the truth paul described our condition before christ as outsiders in ephesians 2 he wrote remember that formerly you who are gentiles by birth and called uncircumcised were separate from christ excluded from citizenship in israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise without hope and without god in the world separate excluded foreigners hopeless in the story of redemption we are the strangers we are the outsiders we are the other and so i think that just you know that was very challenging and very humbling for me because yeah i think you know as the american church particularly we do tend to put our place in you know we assume like we are the chosen people and we're not we were outsiders too and god welcomed the sin through jesus and so um and so yeah those are the things he's been teaching me about the way i should love the outsider and love the foreigner because that's what i was and what i would be with christ challenging words uh okay and now we have uh our guest on this side of the pond we've already dealt with uh the opposite the the other side and so we have houston welcomes refugees that's going to share with us about refugee work here thank you brian good morning everyone it's great to be on this call with you my name is cindy wu and i am the program manager refugees i'm gonna have a couple of us who are with the houston welcomes team introduce themselves real quick i'm gonna start off with molly good morning everyone my name is molly rainey and i am the executive director of houston welcomes refugees and also we have a board member um john yes hello everyone i'm john sullivan and uh pleased to be a board member for houston welcomes refugees and then um someone on this call becca gilmore she is our administrative coordinator so i just want to encourage those of you who have maybe turned off your video if you are presentable would you please turn your video on as our orientation is interactive so i'm going to turn it over to molly who will introduce you to our mission wonderful all right everyone and so the mission of houston welcomes refugees is is really to help ease that initial burden of resettlement for refugees and we do that by mobilizing volunteers really from churches all over houston um as jeremy and some others alluded to you know we are living in a time and really in a place in a city where the lord is is this conflict is happening and the lord is bringing so many people into our neighborhoods into our city who um are either fleeing religious persecution or maybe haven't even met someone who's a follower of christ we work with people who who know christ and people who don't um and and how unique that that god has each one of us living here in houston in this time and it's in its um a weighty responsibility but a really neat opportunity for us to get to respond to that and to serve and so that's really why houston welcomes refugees is here we were founded back in 2016. we are a 501c3 nonprofit working to mobilize the church we are not affiliated with any single church rather our leadership and our volunteers represent a number of different churches around houston which is really fun it's really fun to see the body of christ across such a large city coming together for this one purpose um we are not a resettlement agency either rather we partner with a local resettlement agency and that's how we receive our refugees and then we play this unique role of connecting you the volunteer from the church with a newly arrived refugee family um we all believe as leaders that that um our call is to respond to the needs of the foreigners in our city with the overflow of love that we receive from christ and so since we got started we've been able to mobilize over 1900 volunteers from over 115 different churches across houston and that's allowed us to serve over 850 refugees that represent 16 different nationalities around the world so praise god for that this this is his work his project and we're just doing our best to be humble and faithful servants of that so we're going to start off um and share with you guys some just some facts and figures about the refugee crisis cindy is going to lead us through some really frequently asked questions hopefully you guys will learn something new okay so um for this portion just follow along but remember that there is a grid at the on the last page of the packet and you're going to be referring to that in about five minutes so go ahead and prepare that if you have it available otherwise you can just use a sheet of paper and if you want to jot down some notes as we go along right now on that sheet of paper you can do that as well so my first question is what is the difference between a refugee and an immigrant this is a question that we get a lot and when you think about the word immigrant it's usually someone who willfully traveled to another country whereas a refugee is someone who is forced to flee home because of war persecution or violence the united nations has a technical definition for refugee they are a person who has a well-founded fear of persecution for reasons of race religion nationality political opinion or membership in a particular social group technically refugees are a subset of immigrants but colloquially we distinguish them by whether or not they had a choice to move second question we often get asked is how many refugees are there in the world right now so i want you to either write down or put a number in your head okay how many refugees are there in the world well it's important to get a grasp on how many forcibly displaced persons there are globally so that we get an understanding of the scope of the issue a displaced person is anyone who is forced from their home okay so as of today an unprecedented 79.5 million people around the world have been forced from their home and among them are over 26 million refugees the vast majority of inter forcibly displaced persons are internally displaced meaning they are still within the borders of their home country but 26 million are outside of the borders of their home country that's roughly the entire population of the state of texas and once you are outside of the borders of your home country you're more vulnerable because you lose any of the rights of citizenship that you had when you were in your home country so out of that 26 million guess how many are children now i want you to put a percentage in your head over half of all refugees are under the age of 18. many of these kids don't get to go to school and when they come to the states they have to work really hard to learn english to catch up with their education what percentage of refugees are eventually resettled into a new country they can officially call home okay so like we said there's 26 million refugees in the world today and despite the need less than one percent of all refugees around the world in any given year are ever resettled resettlement is the careful selection by governments like the united states of the most vulnerable refugees who can neither return to their home country nor safely live in their current host country resettlement is a legal process that provides a life-saving alternative for refugees as jimmy mentioned earlier most refugees actually want to go home and the other option but that's kind of a difficult option if they live in a place that has a lot of conflict and some refugees just flee somewhere and they try to make a life there but a very small percentage will be resettled into a third country and one category of refugee that we want you guys to know about are people who come on a special immigrant visa these are primarily afghans and iraqis who have aided the u.s military in some form their lives were threatened by their assistance to our government and so when they come here they are often supported by the veteran community another question that we get asked a lot is what's the difference between a refugee versus an asylum seeker a lot of people think these are the same thing a refugee before they come to the states they are actually processed in their host country and they must be recognized by the united nations program these people are processed over there and legally accepted to come to the united states before they even set foot on a plane asylum seekers are people who are also known as asylees they are processed at or within the border of the country they are fleeing too so in our context when you think of a lot of the migrants coming from central and south america many of those are asylum seekers so i just want to share that so that we know the difference okay how can we be confident that refugees are safe meaning not a threat to come to america well refugees go through a very stringent vetting process that includes eight government agencies like the state department the department of homeland security they go through multiple background checks multiple in-person interviews and then health screenings to prevent contagious diseases from entering the us and this is all part of a recurring process which is conducted in host countries before refugees ever come on average it takes 18 months to two years to complete this process and we often see this taking longer due to increased security measures so just know that refugees are the most vetted immigrant group and the absolute hardest way to get into the united states is as a refugee you might be wondering what state in the u.s resettled the most refugees over the past year okay i'm going to give you a hint it's the best state you're right it is texas we resettled 3646 refugees in last fiscal year with houston taking in about one-third of that number other states that received the most refugees were california new york and washington state here's a question for you what factors are important in deciding where refugees are placed so when the united states decides you know where should a refugee live they're going to think about the different resources and the type of environment that is good not only for refugees but also for the welcoming city so houston happens to be one of the top resettlement cities in the entire country we are very diverse we have a welcoming environment we have an affordable cost of living a world-class medical center for many of the refugees that have medical issues and a strong economy so that refugees can find jobs oftentimes refugees will go to diverse cities like houston or you know los angeles but some some cities that don't have a lot of diversity will also welcome refugees in order to diversify an interesting fact five years ago if harris county had been a country we would have ranked fifth in the world for refugee resettlement the last question is what are the top nationalities of refugees coming to houston in recent years so we receive many that are congolese many afghans and iraqis who come in on those special immigrant visas that we mentioned um burmese many of them historically have been part of minority christian groups although in more recent years we're receiving rohingya who are muslim we have refugees from eritrea which is an eastern african nation and then i put the map of syria there because one quarter of all refugees today is syrian but we actually don't receive a ton of syrians as you might think and that's because of concerns over isis have put in place additional vetting procedures houston welcomes refugees has also welcomed people from bhutan colombia iran el salvador the sudan and refugees that we've met come from all over the world all walks of life education levels religious backgrounds and levels of crises and it's super important to remember that refugees are not all the same in your packet there is a link to this this sheet it's a fact sheet created by the united nations high commissioner for refugees and it has additional information about refugees that we would love for you guys to take a look at it's really important to us as an organization that our volunteers are not only kind and compassionate people but that they're also educated about refugees about refugees because there are so many myths and misconceptions around the crisis so um just wave your hand at me if you learned one new thing from this or from this diagnostic quiz okay awesome i'm gonna turn it over now to molly who's gonna take us through an activity wonderful okay this is an interactive portion of our virtual mission trip today you're going to be using that grid that was included in the packet or that you've hopefully drawn on a piece of paper it's going to be 16 squares and i want you to make sure that it's numbered 1 through 16 so that every box in your grid has a number assigned to it once you get your grid with the numbers if you could just give me a little thumbs up i'll give you guys about a minute to get that ready all right jones got hers holly's got hers all right all right so you've got your grid with 16 squares now what i'm going to do is i'm going to give you instructions on what to write in each one of these boxes you're just going to be writing one thing in each box boxes one through four i want you to write down the names of four people that you love just think of four people that come to the front of your mind that you love and i want you to write their names in each box do one name per box i'm gonna do this with you four people that you love okay for the next four boxes boxes five through eight i want you to write down four activities that you enjoy doing four activities that you enjoy so maybe reading or walking dinner with friends back in the good old days before corona four activities okay so you've got four people that you love four activities that you enjoy now i want you to write down four possessions that you value four material possessions material things that that you have that are of great value to you so maybe a family heirloom or a special book or maybe your smartphone for all being honest with ourselves four possessions that you value okay in the last four boxes i want you to write down four titles that you hold titles that you hold so maybe it's mother or brother teacher engineer friend four titles that you hold all right so you've got four people that you love four possessions that you value four activities that you enjoy not in that order um and then four titles that you hold so if you guys could just real quick wave your grid up on the screen so i can see if you're finished all right okay so i'd like you to take your pin that you have in hand and i want you to pick two of the items on your grid any two items and i want you to draw a heart in that box so pick pick two items two boxes and draw a heart around the item in that box any two items i want you just to take a moment to look at those items and just reflect on maybe how grateful you are that god has given you those maybe it's a person that you love or an activity that you really enjoy doing something special that god has given you to enjoy now i'd like you to take that same pin in those boxes where you drew your heart and i want you to draw a large x across those boxes a large x it's going to look something like that these represent in this scenario items that are no longer a part of your life okay so you've got two boxes with big x's in them let's see barbara could you do me a favor and just hold up a number between 1 and 10 on the screen is that six okay i want everybody to cross out box number six so go ahead and cross out box number six if you already had box number six crossed out lucky you you don't lose anything extra box number six okay i want all of the men to cross out box number 12. so if you're a man cross out box number 12 and if you are a woman please cross out box number 13. box number 13. okay everyone with brown hair i want you to cross out box number three number three and everyone who was born in the united states if you were born here in the united states i want you to cross out box number nine okay miss joan i would like you to cross out box number four and let's see john i would like you to cross out box number 10 if it's not already crossed out all right so you've got a grid that has a bunch of x's across it right probably x's through the names of people that you love things that you value greatly um take just a moment look down at your box and see see what you're left with see what you've lost see what you're left with and just take a moment to reflect on what it might actually be like to lose these things in real life i'd love to hear some of the emotions that maybe you have as you're reflecting on this if you'd like to unmute yourself or just type in the chat box what are some of the feelings that you have as you're looking down at your grid right now at what you've lost and what you have left do you want what we've got left how do you feel about what you have left how is this how are you feeling looking down at what you have i don't know whether i understood the question down at the the last group of squares but i've got peace down you have what ace peace that you have some items left some things that are not crossed out that's a very positive way to look at it okay i like that i'll i'll i'll be the opposite i'll say a sense of loss um you know like with the family and kids and a lot of like the important like i started important to less important of my favorites of all of these and so i'm left basically with camping which is good because apparently i'm a refugee so i still have my camping gear uh but i don't have any kids or wife to camp with yeah i feel sadness yum she lost me so my husband's not there anymore yeah yeah yeah marilyn said she crossed out her mom it breaks her heart to think about losing her family barbara lost two sons in the title of mother which would be devastating to lose that yeah these are all um just i think very normal emotions to feel if you think about um this scenario and it potentially being real um and just think about think about it for a moment you know this is an imaginary exercise it's a piece of paper you know more than likely you can pick up that phone and call one of these one of the people that you have on your list but the reality is that for so many of the families that we've served um they've lost things they've lost people that they care about they've lost they've certainly lost their homes they they lose um pieces of what can feel like their identity and it wasn't a choice for them it was taken from them for some of them it was taken very quickly there's a couple stories that we like to share one of families that we've met and worked with one was an iraqi family of five that resettled here in houston and the the father of the family had been an engineer the mother had been a scientist back in iraq and as orthodox christians they had fled religious persecution there upon resettlement here in houston the father took a job in a bakery at walmart and the mom was working in child care at a local church both of them so grateful to have jobs that they could do here but if you think about um how much dignity there is in in work and being able to do the work that you feel like god called and designed you to do whether that's in the home or out of the home and to have have lost that it feels for them like they've lost a part of their identity there was another family and that we've met it was a syrian family and they had four kids um they were at home in their village in syria when they received word that isis was about to show up in their village their two older kids were at elementary school and they were at home with their two youngest kids and they had to make an instantaneous decision do we stay here at home wait for our older children to come home from school risk our lives and the lives of our babies or do we flee with our younger kids and just pray that someone will take our older ones and the decision that they made was to flee um and that's that was the reality for them the reality that they might not see those two older kids and these stories are not sensationalized they're real stories from real people and we go through this exercise and we share some of these stories because it really can be easy to get lost in the media and in the reporting of numbers and in the misrepresentation of facts and we can start to think of people really just as numbers as these these um distant people who um who are so far from us but they're just people like us made in the image of god and and they've lost um people and things that they care about and we have this beautiful opportunity just to come alongside them um in a time of great transition and to love them and to show them that they're cared for in a new place and in a challenging time so this time you can go ahead and put your grid away you can throw it away that'll make you feel better we're going to transition and cindy's going to share about just specifically what houston welcomes refugees volunteers do to to help ease the burden of resettlement for our families thanks molly so there's a video that we like to share i'm not going to share it today in the interest of time but this is linked into the packet and i highly encourage you to watch it it just tells a bit of the impact of houston welcomes on two of our refugee families but today i do want to talk about our different programs um first we do partner with a local agency it's the ymca international services which is part of the greater y of the houston area a lot of people think of the y is just gym and swim but they also do immigration services and so this is how we learn about refugees coming to houston we have three main programs welcome kids move-in teams and welcome teams after today's orientation you'll be equipped to do welcome kits or move-in teams if you want to serve on a welcome team there's additional training which i'll explain so welcome kids are essentials that every refugee family needs to start life over in america we all know how expensive it is to furnish a home and so these welcome kits are a blessing to the families but also empower them to spend their federal welcome money on other things besides sponges and trash bags so welcome kids can be put together by your church your small group your family we have regular collection dates at our office in the heights and we provide information for you what goes into the kits as well as a toolkit if you want to organize a drive for your own group move-in teams show up on the day of an arrival and they go to the apartment they take the kids from our office and drive them to the apartment one person will go grocery shopping one person will pick up a hot meal from afghan village really awesome afghan food and believe it or not it takes less than an hour to set up an entire apartment you turn an empty place into a home and it's so fun because you just imagine when you're praying at the very end that the next people who step foot into this apartment are travel weary refugees who aren't expecting anything and they walk into an apartment that has the beds made and the curtains hung up for them each of the welcome team volunteers has a specific role which will be communicated to you when you sign up so we're going to give you a chance at the end of the orientation to indicate your area of interest and if you select move-in teams you'll be added to an email list and then whenever we have a move in you can sign up for one of these roles we do ask that if you serve on a move-in team that you will dress modestly because we work in immigrant communities just be mindful that many of our families are muslim their neighbors are muslim and so we just want to honor their culture we do most of our move-ins in the middle of the day to accommodate work schedules so if you want to take an hour off of your lunch break to go help out with a move-in you can do that and most of our refugee families live in southwest houston finally we have welcome teams and this is really the heartbeat of houston welcomes refugees welcome teams support and love refugee families you don't take over the job of the caseworker you don't have to find refugees a job you don't have to apply for social security for them but you can greet them at the airport bake with them have picnics with them and take them to cultural events many of our families come not expecting to have any friends not expecting to meet americans right away and so they're often very surprised and very grateful when they have an american friend who can serve as a support and a cultural broker for them if you want to serve on a welcome team there is an additional training so when you indicate your interest at the end of the orientation you'll receive a follow-up email which will have a link to an application then you'll complete a 15 minute phone interview with me and then attend an online welcome team training our next one is going to be on october 27th so if the idea of befriending refugees appeals to you please note that date october 27th due to covid right now arrivals are kind of slow but we would love to get you trained up and ready to go when refugees do start to come we do ask that move in and welcome team volunteers do the ymca's required background check in online child abuse training this is required by the y and so this is our website again this is posted in the welcome packet and so i really want to encourage you guys to check out our website if you want some more information about houston welcomes refugees and i'm going to go ahead and post right now in the chat area a link where you can fill out your response in the areas that you're interested in and that link is also included in the packet of course so that concludes our orientation i'm going to turn it back over to brian and we're going to go into a time of prayer but if you have any questions from the orientation like facts about refugees or questions about our programs molly and i will be hanging on after the entire program is over to answer any lingering questions thank you yeah so before we go to breakout rooms uh i just want to say a big thank you to to jeremy uh and tamale and cindy uh for for taking time to share all of this uh information with us and i appreciate all of you joining our call and being part we are going to do have a little short time of prayer uh these prayer requests i'm gonna go ahead and post them here into the chat but these prayer requests um were also in the handout so if you've clicked that link or opened it up they should be there we've updated a couple for our uganda team there but anyway we'll take 10 minutes so you'll see a countdown timer and it it will automatically dump you back in the main room when we're done and if you have any questions or want to hang out and chat with uh either uh jeremy or the hwr team uh you're welcome to do so so i'm gonna go ahead and put those in um don't linger in prayer i know that sounds weird but uh if you're long-winded maybe limit yourself to one of the requests just so other people get a chance to pray as well all right uh well now we have time we have a few minutes for like it's actually we're right at 11 30. but if you want to hang out for a few minutes um you can ask uh jeremy questions or uh cindy and molly questions about uh ministry here in houston so just unmute and fire away or you can wave goodbye either way so just this is tom i just had a quick question i had heard recently that the number of refugees that were a lot being allowed to come into the united states went from 18 000 to 15 000 and is is that like a done deal or what's the scoop on that or and does that affect the number of refugees that are going to be coming to houston next year i can take that i think the last article that we saw on it it was uh the proposal that came from the president so he'll work in conjunction with congress to make the final decision so we're still cindy not shake your head if i'm saying this wrong but i haven't seen that the final number will be 15 000. um so we're still hopeful that um that maybe it could bounce back up we'll have to see as far as affecting houston you know we tend to be pretty confident in the numbers that come to houston because we found that a lot of the families that are coming are actually being reunited with family members that have already resettled and because houston has been a leader for so long we've got a lot of families here who are waiting on family members to come we also have five local agencies and all those things that cindy went through that make us just a really great resettlement city so we still expect that no matter what the numbers are for houston to continue to be a leader for the nation great question any other questions so you're you're muted you're still muted i'll try to lip read if you talk really big sir sorry brian ahead john yeah brian i got a question for for jeremy so the uh the story and i'm sorry i forget the name of the uh the butcher in the refugee is it jeremy do you remember or can you remember his name yeah so salam you know got news at his village there were you know a huge number of christian converts so what what was the uh the cause of the great conversion in his village so previous to that the military basically enforced a no conversion law that sudan has hey daniel don't do that he they enforced that and so if there was any kind of sharing of the gospel um you could be put in jail or killed stoned and whenever so whenever the military moved to khartoum to basically try to get things back in order there all those rules both are poor as well as there were some some christians that were kind of underground that began to speak up just kind of testing the waters and the lord had just prepared the hearts of people and they just started to come to faith and mass and it's still going on right now in both places um in darfur and in in newport mountains that is so cool yeah it's pretty awesome how god does what he does how he uses conflict to grow the kingdom of god yes it reminds me of the isaiah verse i think it's 55 or 58 that says you know as the rain comes down and nourishes the crops to my word will you know will not return without you know i'm butchering this obviously but without incredible produce yeah yeah we're in the process right now i've got 2 000 arabic new testaments that are sitting in a storeroom in my at my office that i'm trying to get up there because you know our thoughts are is that with these people coming to christ they have no background in the christian faith if we could just get them the scriptures it'll be like throwing gasoline on the fire you know that's already burning so i'm sorry what's i missed the first part again i'm sorry what's the name of your organization uh i'm with the international mission board the southern baptist um missions agency but we also have an ngo here called borderlands that kind of we we do most of our humanitarian aid through it so it's not to bring undue attention to the organization and as far as bibles getting bibles to where they're needed most is there a way to to do that yeah we we're actually working we're partnering right now with we're working on a partnership with um four other organizations samaritan's purse african inland mission um and then what's the other one was it wow yeah why wham um and so basically all of us trying to figure out how can we help each other daniel stop it how can we all kind of pitch in with what we're good at um to be able to get these bibles up there and we're going to be doing some training of some national brothers up just right on the border between south sudan and sudan that's cool well i have a question for hwr uh if you were to i mean i know you probably have tons of needs but what would you say are like your top one or two needs right now during covid you want me to go um i mean we when we look at how we want to grow as an organization really welcome team volunteers and that's even now during covid before covet and probably after covid um so we're partnered with one of the five local agencies here through that partnership last year we were able to serve 30 percent of the total number of refugees that came to houston so we still have a lot of room to grow and that's really um just contingent upon getting enough volunteers for every family that's coming we saw about 1 000 refugees that came to houston last year and so expecting that houston will still continue to be a leader even into the future as long as refugees are coming then that's going to continue to be our our greatest need and so with that even word of mouth so if you've got friends either at willcrest or friends in other circles that you think might be interested in this work just connecting them with us and would just be wonderful yeah i'll just add that in during the time of covid some people who want to serve on a welcome team might feel hesitant to do so because of covid and so welcome kids would also be something that people can do that's socially distanced yeah with with my position at hbu i'm helping them design intercultural studies program admissions program and i'm trying to incorporate some required uh kind of mission outreach activity hours as part of their thing because i am connected to a lot of people like hwr and prestige and some other groups like that in town that probably use uh some fresh some fresh blood yeah that'd be really neat we were actually supposed to do i think was it an orientation cindy at hbu this spring um it was going to be our first one and then covet happen so it'd be nice to still have a connection there we're supposed to do an orientation and a move in with the bsm oh nice so that that's going bsm cool yeah yeah he's a good guy all right any other pressing questions all right well um i want to just thank everybody for coming and i want to encourage you to look through the packet there's some extra resources and some links and such that go to the various ministries there's a free couple free pdfs in there that are informational um and there's some recommended books in the resource setting i would highly recommend the the recipe section if you've never had afghan food it is quite delicious uh or go to afghan village it's a favorite of mine and has been for a long time um people always ask me because i had a food blog on international food in houston for a while they always say well what's your favorite food and i said well it's a region and it starts in western china and just goes across all the way through afghanistan everything on that that road right there that's where i could just retire so anyway thank you very much for coming on the call thank you thank you thank you thank you all right thanks for putting thank you thank you thanks jeremy god bless you thank you jeremy thanks everybody say bye bye bye bye

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Keywords: virtual mission trip, refugee ministry, diaspora ministry, diaspora, brian Hébert

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Length: 84min 10sec (5050 seconds)

Published: Sat Oct 03 2020