Real Gangster Is About To Get A Reality Check

it seemed like everyone in the courtroom today almost gasped when 21-year-old Dorian Lucas read his letter the judge later said it vividly showed he had no remorse for his deadly crimes and sentenced Lucas to 25 years in prison earlier this month Lucas pleaded guilty to four charges steming from three separate crimes in October 2010 he was running from police when he hit Natasha lawet she died 6 weeks after the accident police were still investigating the fatal crash in April 2011 when Lucas shot and killed his friend Jamal Moore inside a West Grand View apartment this video contains the interview of a man who shot and killed another gang member Dorian L Lucas had a long history of violence in his juvenile record this pattern continued into adulthood as he became more entrenched with the Dayton view Hustlers a local gang Lucas had avoided arrest for various charges including vehicular homicide but his criminal run ended when he was brought in for the shooting of Jamal Moore Lucas and Moore had been arguing and as the fight became more heated guns were pulled Lucas shot Moore seven times and several of the shots were in Moore's back as he tried to flee Moore lived for 9 minutes after the shooting as he attempted to crawl from the apartment um this was just that you saw me write the information wrote the date time and then all the information um that I just asked you I'm going to interview you in regards to the crime of murder before we ask you any questions I want to make sure you understand you're right can you read WR number one out loud to me the detective doesn't waste any time dancing around the issue Lucas knows why he has been brought in so she is going to start with the direct approach rather than leading up to the accusation gradually I think you know what this is about Okay so let's kind of get through the form and we'll start talking okay I I don't know nothing about no murder me okay well um I know you've already went through your rights with Detective daughtery but I want to make sure you understand them before I talk to you so we'll get through this and we'll start talking okay so read um read number one out loud to me you had the right to remain silence you do not have to make any statements or answer any questions okay you understand that okay okay I want you to put your initials next to the number one and that means you understand what you just read and go ahead with number two any anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law okay you understand that okay I need a yes or no you understand that okay okay go ahead with three hold on hold on anything you say can will be us so you do not have to make right uh you have the right to talk to a lawyer for advice before you ask before we ask you any questions and to have a la with you during question you understand that okay yes ma'am okay if you do not have the money to hire a lawyer a lawyer appointed by the court or a law lawyer from the public defender office will be provide provided to you before and during questionings without any cost to you you understand that okay yes ma'am if you if you decide to answer questions no now without a lawyer present you will still have the right to stop answering at any time you also have the right to stop answering at any time until you talk to a lawyer you understand that okay yes ma'am okay now this little paragraph is called your waiver of Rights can you read that for us the above statement of Rights has been read to me I understand what my rights are I'm willing to make a statement and answer questions I do not want a lawyer at this time I understand and know what I'm doing no promise promises promises or threats have been made to me and no pressures or concerns of any kind has been used against me okay this word is coercion do you know what coercion means yeah the was trying to explain it I me the gun threaten say something right I'm not threatening you or um making you try to say something so when it says no promises or threats have been made to me and no pressure or coercion or trickiness of any kind has been used against me understand that okay okay how many years of school have you completed 10 did you stop in the 11th grade or did you stop in the 10th grade well life skills um they really don't have grades do they okay so let's go ahead and put 10 here since you've completed 10 years and go ahead and sign and that just means you understand everything you read okay okay Doran you got really nervous when I came in here and detective daughtery said it was from dating okay and who I want to talk to you is about Molly Jamal Moore okay I know you guys were like friends forever you guys grow up together okay I've talked to a lot of people who you talk to and I think some things that you need to tell me what happened that day Lucas has given the news that the detective has already talked to other people he has no way of knowing what was said and whether or not he will be able to get away with lying cuz I think somebody else was involved with this shooting with him like Jason Sher specifically okay it was serious they really thought I did that now I know you did it Dorian I know because you told a lot of people and all these people have come forward I've got the gun it matches this is something you just you need to talk about and get off your chest and be truthful with okay I ain't I ain't kill him I didn't kill him you need to tell me what happened in that apartment that apartment was our spot I Ain I swear to God I ain't came home miss I no okay I know was called the spot that's that's where we was trapping at um it was it been it been me and Molly we we did grow up together we everybody in the house did me and him we used to have little arguments and disagreements and we used to be getting into it because he used to aim his gun at me he used to always aiming at me and threatening me and he did that a couple weeks before he was killed didn't he he was doing that even he was doing that almost every day even though I was stupid and still coming around cuz you don't do that to people you love or anything so I was taking him serious then um sh sh and Rocky Rob Shar and Rocky Rob Rocky Rob he the dude he he got killed in Hamilton he got killed in Hamilton like Rocky Rob yeah he his real name Rob or something he grown he grown he just died in helmon he got shot up okay um Molly we all used to not work for him but we used to trap for him like he was like the plug tell me what trap is I don't know what that means hustling trying to get some money okay were you selling drugs for sure um I was not selling drugs for Sharon I was not selling drugs for nobody I was selling for yourself when I was selling okay and I stopped selling cuz i i i c of charged that I ain't I even was not even selling at the time even though I was selling and they caught me but I ain't have nothing but they were saying they found drugs on me so I stopped selling to beat my charge but I was going to court and they told me it was not me so I left um but Shar and Rocky Rob they used to I don't know if they used to joke with Mary but they used to always say we got money on your head we going to get you mer we going to get you mer then they used to try to tell me about it like cuz we used to be arguing and they be saying it to me like bro when you going to take him serious you know he kill Lonzo when you going to take him serious no you talking about Molly taking him serious no they telling me yeah Tak him Molly serious know he killed Alonzo and he shot the dude BG that's um TR or travor he just he killed the boy on popey and on the news it said he beat it for selfdefense but he killed D he was trying to rob D and he killed him but they I guess he told the story that dude tried to Rob him but no mly popped him so they telling me like he already killed Lonzo he killed he popped BG just couple weeks ago what you going to do you going to take him serious and I kept saying like he ain't serious he the B got me I don't keep no strap he had the B got me so um we just arguing then one day um I think Easter we get the arguing we get the arguing and he aimed his gun at me then R and Jimmy and know they bought guns L he bought a gun and Shar he had two guns he had a 38 and a 45 Molly had a 45 it was a it was a tech and the M90 it was a couple guns but I'm the only one that had no gun that's why I was getting distorted Lucas's words pour out like a waterfall he can't seem to tell his story fast enough the detective takes as many notes as possible so she can check for discrepancies more thoroughly when he's done right now on my patreon page you can watch the interrogation of a suspect who killed a man and then tried to run over a police officer while trying to escape watch him burst into tears during his interrogation thinking it may help him get away with it watch this video and many more right now at patreon.com stranger stories plus I never said that word to nobody cuz I felt like a [ __ ] a little bit but um I remember the last time I seen my when we got into it he aimed his gun at me and I left I left then Thursday Thursday night he called me he called me and he tell was telling me he gonna mer me on on his daddy heal he talked to Shar well we call Shar nater saying um he talked to nater and they got something in store for me they got something planned for me and everything and um later and them I know everything about Shar that's we calling ner his mama all don't know me all that and I'm the one one that usually put up everything so um I put up the straps I put up the straps it was it was a it was a n 45 I think another 45 and it's 32 or something I put them up in the spot cuz I was going to school but I'm waiting on Shar that morning Friday morning I'm waiting on Shar I put the straps up put the straps up in the apartment yes ma'am okay put the straps up cuz you can lift the carpet up put the straps up then um Molly he supposed to he got his own cars on rims but it was with Shar when Shar pull up so I get in the car Molly threatened me again but he waited till I gave Shar my money get Shar some money he up strapped on me and start talking [ __ ] then he touched my hips and was telling me he was going to kill me then you feel me Shar he start laughing about it then he told Shar feel me if anything get said or anything when when [ __ ] do happen he was going to get him too then he was telling me like yeah we about to pull up if you still here I'mma kill you I'mma kill you so like and he fooling fooling mhm I go to school went to school then um and this is Friday morning right this Friday like 11 or 12 okay I go to school then my [ __ ] Kenny he called me like yeah I'm going come pick you up from school then I'm like all right I'm about to leave he like where you about to go I'm like [ __ ] I'm about to go out of town but everybody knew I was going out of town this been my biggest thing I was telling everybody about I'm about to go to Georgia to go to school I was they was telling me I couldn't leave cuz I was going to court but after I started going to court and they was telling me it was not me cuz I was signing myself in there's a place downtown you got to go in a big building go upstairs and get in a drug program and they was telling me go to school go to the job center get food stamps all that so you know I did all that they they a say out nothing so you feel me it's the weekend I'm already planning to leave that's why I never taking nobody serious I'm just thinking they getting mad at me cuz I'm getting at getting out I'm telling I don't want part I'm cool but I changed my life around so so that's when Kenny dropped me off at our apartment on Maine I get dropped off then I go to Georgia then I don't even think Saturday morning I was getting phone calls Molly de Molly de is you all right cuz you be in the spot with him I'm like yeah I'm cool Molly dead like how how he just died he just was talking [ __ ] you feel me they like d Molly did they somebody ran in there and killed him like what hell no so I'm like boy I'm about to come back for the funeral but not even hour two all the C is different ain't no cars worried about me no more or worried about my telling me you killed Molly we going to kill you better not come to the funeral don't come back to the city all this so I always been thinking what was going on like damn what what happened I can't go to the funeral cuz everybody already said they gonna kill me I can't go to the funeral then I just stayed down there for a couple like a month or two then I came back I ran into I ran into Rocky Rob and and Sh and I was asking them what's up but Shar he he was not like the same no more he he even tried to kill me I had to take off running Lucas is trying to convince the detective that his life was in danger this was true at least to some extent just because of the nature of being involved in a gang he was not even the same cuz he kept on when I seen sh I'm like damn bro why everybody think that was me who did that to mahol cuz Mah got popped 15 times before but I never I'm not knowing somebody about to kill me or it was playn cuz I start hearing stories you feel me it was planned for for me to die then they end up doing Molly that's that's why I See Molly I'm just looking what no I a't I a't I never knew it was people was actually really thinking it was me cuz Okay Doran let's go back to Friday morning K he picks you up from school right from life skills and where do you go you go to the spot nah I didn't go to the spot it was no point Molly told me if I come back here it's gonna kill me I'm calling Shar but you thought that Molly he was just talking because he he'd been threatening you for a couple weeks hadn't he couple couple months yeah pulling a gun out on you storting me taking getting money taking your money from you and that's cuz and you were mad you said you felt like a [ __ ] right and you need that's that's after everything now cuz my baby mama house got shut up and everything so it's like a little anger getting built up cuz I ain't had nothing to do with Molly swear to God if anything was happen it could have been happen cuz it was happening that it was straps everywhere you feel me all that and M I was never taken him serious only reason I took him serious this morning that I left him I wanted to go to school cuz he was putting on his dead daddy was going to kill me and usually I still talk [ __ ] to him like bro you got me [ __ ] up I a hearing you that [ __ ] de you feel me I'm still staying in the spot but he put on his dead daddy so what do you mean he I don't understand what you mean he put on his dead daddy on my daddy I'mma kill you oh when we come back he was telling me I can't come to the Trap no more I can't make no money no more none of that then that's why I was never taking any serious cuz it seemed like they hating on me I'm telling them about court and they keep on asking like boy what happened in court like [ __ ] they said it ain't even me feel me even sh told me I was the police since they told me it was not me he was telling me that before he C this little body and but you put the guns in the spot right you said the 32 a 45 and a 9 is that right it was it was a couple more straps in there couple more in there too okay cuz I was Thursday I was the last one in there and that's when I went back to our apartment then we all supposed to meet up but Molly CAU meing to me then and he said he was putting it on his daddy right yes ma'am okay so I went to school I went to school because Sharon and know said they G to pull right back up but that's when he gave me when we pull up my daddy I'mma kill you so don't be here so I went to school to give him time to to clear TR to chill out a little bit okay then we went to the apartment me and Kenny we went to our apartment we went to the apartment I'm calling Shar like bro come you got to come to me I'm not coming over here I'm cool you got to come to me he keep saying I'mma Be Here I'mma Be there and that's one of my little [ __ ] Anisha she was telling me she was could still on her way to come get me cuz I was coming down there to go to school then I left okay you know what I think happened I think you went to the spot and then Molly pulled out a gun and he was threatening you and then you shot him in self-defense that's what I think happened rather than accuse Lucas of murder outright the detective gives him a chance for a partial admission by saying it was self defense that would make sense that makes a lot more sense than what you're trying to tell me don't you agree cuz you knew there were guns there and Molly's been picking on you and picking on you and picking on you for the last couple weeks I think that's what happened Dorian Doran we've talked earlier about being honest and everything and how it'll make you feel a lot better and that sounds is a lot more logical than what I've just listened to okay look at me I know you're really scared and this is horrible and you didn't mean for it to happen but I think it is bre I never it's like I'm always the bad guy man I don't think you were the bad guy in this okay I think I think Molly's the one that that pulled out the gun first I really do and things just went crazy didn't they and I know you you're a caring individual because this is upsetting you and I know you'll feel better once you get it off your chest okay cuz you told a lot of people what happened and I know you didn't mean for it to happen but it did so you need to tell me exactly what happened from your side of the story it's okay we'll get through this okay this has been a heavy load for you for six seven months hasn't it oh my it's been a heavy heavy load I wish I could see somebody just is that it's okay it's been waiting on you for a long time Dorian I know you didn't mean for anything to happen it just thank you [Music] brother Molly Molly he was like like Superman or anything he don't must treat nobody like that he was making it hard for you wasn't he [ __ ] it's okay you just let it out it's been weighing on you for a long time what the [ __ ] Molly was making her life hard for wasn't he thought Molly was going to kill me I know you did I know you did I to protect myself I'm sorry but you knew there was a gun inside the apartment didn't you it was do everywhere okay it was not like I planted or nothing I know you didn't I know you didn't plan it it just happened did Molly pull a gun out on you was it a 3-2 or do you know he had his M five he had his four five and you got a four five sh had a 45 he had a 4 five okay l or Jimmy had a 32 and the other nine and it was it was a couple guns in there Thursday [ __ ] well tell me about Friday afternoon when you got there was Molly starting to ride you again threatening you again tell me what happened when you walked in the door Lucas struggles to tell his story but the detective is patient and carefully CES him to continue I ain't going to never get out h no I I think there's two sides to every story Dorian I really do but they ain't going never look at it like that just look like it now that's why we're here for that's why we're here I want to know I want to know what you happened you are this is hurting you this is Weighing on your heart isn't it it's been weighing on your heart for eight months cuz Molly was your friend but I think you said it you're not supposed to treat people like that like he was treating you I could even go to the police oright that I wish you would have called me cuz you know I was talking to your sister who your sister who that Tasha did she try to have you come in and talk to me but everybody's making like me like I'm just a monster and I'm not you're not a monster Dorian you're not a monster at all monsters don't get upset like you are I mean it h nobody that night either they ain't going to show me no mercy but Molly he callused that B I swear to God I I do nothing I just to be love my mom used to kick me out house when I was younger all I had was D [ __ ] and they all show me the most love I was always in out the system right so I couldn't go to the police they would not to believe me or take me serious man then na got killed regardless I know you had a rough life growing up toha told me that had a rough life but you need to you need to tell us what happened so I can tell your side of the story cuz I don't think you're a monster detective da I know doesn't think you're a monster but you need to tell us what happened everything I told you is true besides leaving school well let's go back Kenny picks you up from school right and you drive over to the spot yeah go to the spot yet okay where'd you go before the spot went to the apartment on Main Street okay then after that we went to Maya Westwood made a couple runs okay the whole time calling sh he he answering but he was trying to get dude to kill me like he he was there for for one of us to go right for he you are Molly right he kind of wanted you guys to fight it out between yourselves right cuz remember the dude Rock gr when I was telling you about Molly stole some spanks from him that's uh ounces Heron he stole some of them and him and Sharon had money on his head but they also had it on my head too cuzz I I mostly be with Molly see sh I think he he had all that set up when we come back sh he he he was not trying to come but I he was there though I know he was there but he wasn't inside the apartment but you know he was around he was there he was in the apartment okay who else was in the apartment L San Antonio Jimmy Jimmy okay Jimmy Johnson Kenny Kenny Adams M okay sh was not he was he was he was in front of the apartment he came in after everything I think I I don't know okay when you go to the apartment do you go in through like that Courtyard area or do you go to the side and come up the back I came through the front I came through the front Okay that's that's it don't got no handles on the door or nothing right I come through the front Okay so where the two couches are not Jesus okay so you coming through that door because the back door is a one with the kitchen right okay so what happens when you come in you and Kenny come in through the front door it's it's a strap on the couch strap on the table and it was a strap by me where where where I sat at and it was one in the back room okay where did you sit at when you came in I sat on the red couch on the red couch green couch there's no evidence to say whether or not Moore pulled a weapon first but as long as it remains a possibility Lucas feels as if he might be looking at lesser charges green couch okay sit down Molly capping up he's capping up drugs he was at the table in like the where the table was okay where was Kenny at s on the other couch okay Molly I don't think he noticed me at first cuz I was behind candy so when I sat down I don't think he noticed me then he did notice me he had to talk a [ __ ] saying what was he saying to you what you doing here then you already know what it is I already I already told you when I see you you think [ __ ] playing hit me I just he punched you did he come over and punch you where you were sitting down yeah he was standing over top of me okay punched me then he keep talking he keep talking to me while I'm still sitting down so now I'm getting a little mad and upset so I try to get up and pushing that's when it was two it was two it was two nines the silver one and the black one sit on the couch he he picked him up turned around aimed him at me so I'm just looking at him had one in both both hands M okay aimed them at me then I'm just s sitting there well I'm standing up now then we just talking but I'm not saying nothing so that's how I usually thr the aim guns at me I'm not saying nothing so I I sit back on the couch now I got the the 45 where' you get the 45 from it was on the couch okay was it like underneath the cushions or just laying okay so I pick it up they like uh look go look that mean go check the go check the things but I don't know what type of gun go check what thing the window look out the window oh see how right out there okay man I don't know what kind of gun that was cuz I only pull the trigger two or three times and it was no more bullets but everybody said it was a lot of shots but I only pulled that gun two or three times okay where were you when you first shot Molly were you in that back room or you yeah that's telling you okay so I go back there but I'm holding that gun now cuz I don't know what he on so I go look it it's a remember I said said it was it was another 45 but I guess it was not one in the neck or something cuz he shot me but I never was bleeding or nothing but I I turned around looking here he in there in the room and picked it up and it was talking more [ __ ] and he aimed it at me clicked it probably clicked it twice he clicked it and that made me get the click in the gun I had like oh fell I'm still clicking it but Molly fell so I'm just still clicking it or I just know it scared me cuz he aiming it like this so I get to doing it then I just look at everybody like oh [ __ ] the [ __ ] what what just happened and they just everybody just was quiet just then I leave I leave leave and I left the strap I ain't get in the car I walked up the street okay stop right there I I ain't getting no car we've got the gun in the car but I ain't leave I ain't getting no car I I walked up the street did Kenny come pick you up n he he we got there just only last time I seen Kenny okay baby okay you're doing really good let's not try to save Kenny cuz I've already talked to Kenny okay we got the guns from the car so don't don't start saving people now just go on with the truth I know you and Kenny left in the car okay right okay don't try to save him cuz I've already talked to him as soon as the detective knows Lucas is starting to lie she jumps in to get him back on track it's okay can't I've already talked to Kenny but I don't know cuz everybody was in the house when I was at school and it seemed like it was set up for me to get killed when I when even when I walked in there I'm just waiting to get my money for Shar okay let let's go you leave the apartment does anybody go with you and I'm want to ask you this question I already know the answer does anybody get in the car with you and Kenny no no okay and you drive for a little bit but then you stop cuz you know you're hot right and I it [ __ ] me up I ain't going to lie I know it did hey I'm going to ask you another question I know the answer too okay can you call somebody to come pick you up right calls a cousin Molly it's Molly B it to itself I ain't trying to sound like a to say that about Molly it going to happen not like about me but somebody he was you don't treat nobody like that I a I thought I was dead you thought you were dead hey let me ask you some questions okay I did this stuff that came out the house cuz I was hearing about that cuz that's why I ran Ma I I was not going to leave until when they said they ain't find nothing in the house cuz I ain't take nothing from Molly I love Molly I love all that daughter so I ain't take nothing Molly has a lot of money on jewelry I didn't take none of that just leave it for his mama to bury me right I don't think you took anything out either I think somebody else did that they cover it up okay we can't mark on this but I'm going to show you this is the apartment okay these are the two this would be the front door that you came in right and these would be the couches and then this this is the dining area this would be the table is this right okay and then back here is the bedroom this is a reclining chair and where these like two little other chairs or like little love seats or something is this all right yes okay so when you came in which what are these these are just numbers of stuff that was there little pieces of Ed which couch were you on were you on this one or this one you were on this one were you here closer to this end or closer to this end right here so you were kind of in the middle then and then Molly you said was at the dining room table cuz he was doing whatever he was doing with his hair on or crack or Coke whatever is over there is that right okay so Molly walks over here and while you're sitting down he punches you cuz he walk over he W he walked over like he came over and he was standing on top of me like this but he when he arguing with me he like then I tell you don't come back I'm still still throwing him mouth like that [ __ ] dead you feel me I went to school he still he still what is he mad over why is he at me okay then that's when he cuz I'm standing like this so he standing like this so you were standing by the time he punches you no I'm still you're still sitting I'm standing this way Lucas moves around the room to re act what happened which also helps him burn off some of his nervous energy feel me cuz when you come in there it's couch you come like this so he's saying my couch right here but I'm putting the couch like it's right here okay so I'm sing like this looking at me standing over me it's when he hit me then he still talking [ __ ] talking that killing [ __ ] then I finally end up getting up that's why I'm still facing him like this but he picked up the two straps that was on that couch the red couch mhm that's that couch okay that's that okay and I'm just looking at him then I Ain I'm not saying nothing cuz I know he about to do it cuz he killed Alonzo and I'm just looking at him then that's when loc like but y need to chill out y'all need to chill out whatever it is it it ain't all that it ain't all that and who tells you to go out and look out the window Lo okay and and lo is Antonio Taylor he's an older guy right is that his real name or do you know his real name I know him by L you know him byone and tone okay so they tell you and do you go to this bedroom here to look out the window or this one this one first you go to this one first no cuz there a window you can look down okay then this room it looks down that way okay but when I get in here so you go to this room first and then you come to this one then that's one mly walk in with me well he behind me while I'm at the window okay so you're here I mean kind of show me you would be right around here yeah cuz it's it's a window window and it's a window okay yeah I'm right I'm like came in right here well this one I noticed Molly was in the room when I was right here okay and that's when he up that ratchet and he kept talking talking so he had a gun and then you picked up the 45 from out here on the I'm sorry out here on the couch right okay and you said that Molly shot at you first but it didn't go off it just clicked yeah it had to okay CU eyes not popped I I ain't get hit that's how that's why I guess I blacked out but I don't know cuz I know when and they clicked it I start clicking I thought I'm wet I'm thinking it's over okay so as soon as he starts clicking it then you start shooting it and you said and this probably wasn't set up cuz they probably it was it was a 45 in here M and and it was a 45 right here mhm cuz this gun didn't click and I'm the one that this like my couch when we sleep there I'm sleeping on that couch and everything mhm they probably had the wrong gun switched up cuz his gun didn't click like it didn't pop me now did it go off I don't I don't know I just know you know you didn't get shot right that's what I know and the gun was aimed at me okay but and then you shot you said two or three times okay where was Molly at when you shot him in the room yeah he was in the room okay where in the room when you first come in cuz this is doorway when you come in there a window right here I'm at this window like you said there a couch right here this is a clining chair right here yeah okay was he sitting in the chair no was he close to the chair or was he more over here think because I I just want to make sure cuz this chair was turned over so I know at some point he probably sat down was it maybe after he was stunned from getting shot I don't remember I don't remember I don't remember I thought I was dead I know I'm sure that was you scared I I don't I I I just remember when he came in the room he was still talking to aing the gun like this just still talking then he get to clicking it so I start clicking it cuz I'm thinking I'm wet and I know it just clicked I don't know that it bow I just I I know and but you didn't hear a a gunshot did you no you just heard the gun I think I heard I I just know you know I know he actually pulled that trigger when he aimed at me unlike many other gang members Lucas does not seem to have the hardened shell that is used to cover up any type of fear most brag about threats and acts of violence against him and boast how they took care of the problem this is not the first death Lucas has been involved in but he doesn't have the stomach to stay in the business or the guts necessary to make the decision to get out that's what made me just black out or F I think I fa and everything okay how many times you think you pulled the trigger and be honest because I know how many times you were shot like two or three times two or three times I think it was more than that but it it it could have been more cuz is like when he was clicking it on me I start clicking okay now who left the room first you or Molly I left the whole house okay well now there were some bullet casings out here from your gun so when you were leaving did you like turn back and shoot into the room cuz that would kind of make sense if you were scared he was coming after you could you have turned around and shot him because the same bullet casings from the gun were out here and this little I don't want to say it's a hallway but it's you know that little area before you go into all the bedrooms do you remember doing that I just I probably was still shooting when I'm ran out the room okay but okay now this is a big question I'm going to ask you okay this is the kitchen okay did you did you do any shooting in this kitchen no okay okay I know that's a truthful answer we didn't find any bullet casings there Molly was shot in the ass three times okay so that means he he either was running from you and you shot at him or that's probably when I said when I when I fell in the room MH when I thought I was shot and I just went out shooting and he probably moved or anything cuz I a't get pop him I would cuz you weren't injured at all right yeah that's how I know I ain't get pop iide and I was not bleeding mhm okay what if I told you that Molly was shot about seven times do you think you could have done that all in that room honestly you just shot and shot and shot and shot right probably till the gun went empty didn't you I thought I was dead okay did Molly ever sit in this chair at all do you remember him falling over the chair no okay but you pretty you do you think would it be a fair statement to say you shot until the gun went empty cut no it's not fair it wouldn't be a fair statement oh okay it was like like you know how you got couple seconds before you die right I was never trying to kill him like like what's up I'm at you for being at me and no no yeah it's just like it's just like if they when they kicked well they they kick in the house this morning if they would kicked it in and we just let off one shot they would just got to shoot it it's just like anybody no I I was not trying to kill Molly I'm probably still in denial cuz it happened but no like I'm in denial CU I couldn't that's no Molly was trying to get me okay and every time you you go to a window I I picked up the strap cuz I was scared and I went to look at the windows and I knew something fishy was going to happen cuz it ain't no reason they just call me Doran he called me DeLorean Dorian he said DeLorean though but Lo like Dorian go check the go check it and that's when he said it to like yeah do take your [ __ ] ass go check the windows and then that's when you went here and then you went here and then Molly came in here I don't think he know I had that gun I put I took it off the couch what kind of do you know what kind of gun he had when he came in the bedroom he had that four he had his 4 five aimed at me he had a 4 five okay okay I know it ain't going to help me in cour or nothing I'm sorry it a mly he was trying to kill me I I wanted to come to the police but I can't these are people that's help like taking care of me making sure I'm cool mhm I don't really got nobody or nothing Lucas leans hard into the claim that he was in fear of his life but that is going to be hard to convince a jury given the number of times more was shot Molly he brought he that happened it's not I'm not trying to say it to be a dog or nothing but he was GNA kill me okay and he and that's him was anybody else when when you ran out of the room and I think you were still shooting inside the room was Kenny and Lok and Jimmy out here still or do you remember you don't know okay I just know how to get up out of there okay which door did you leave the back door okay and Kenny obviously because it was Kenny's car that you were in or his girlfriend's car or his car right okay was Marcus there earlier Maris yeah Maris and I know the answer so be truthful bean I don't know Maris last time I seen him was that morning at his house then I went to the spot then I went to school I don't even think he know I went to school okay but I can't answer that I don't know did Kenny drive he he picked me up and no when you left here did Kenny drive or did you drive I was driving you were driving okay tell me where you put the guns and I know where they were cuz we have them where in the car did you put them I think cany put them in the glove Department okay and how many were there do you remember if I said there were three would that be probably about right cuz one for sure was her four five and then there were a couple other right 29 okay okay and then you guys dumped the car and then Kenny called his cousin is that about right then Raven dropped you off in this case can I talking Court too cuz I ain't trying to go to jail for murder it was not murder I thought I was dead man I swear to God I know I lied at first come into it cuz I'm still scared I know you're scared being my dreams it's been bothering you you told a ton of people cuz they always kept on saying like we did it for a hit cuz Shar set it up Shar had everything to do with it Shar was the monstermind they kept on saying that like we got I got paid for that when Shar got paid for it I a had nothing I not involved in none of that Shar knew everything he was he was not even trying to stop Molly he was going to let molly kill me sure was that was the plan it was no way if Molly caught me threatening me and you calling me telling me you need me in the morning meet you at the spot then I get there I come out to the car both of y'all in the car and Molly Own It aiming the gun and everything and he Tred to play it out I yell at Sher that's why I went to school I was scared I ain't turn to the L cuz good these people that take care of me this they were family right they but even though you had problems in the morning you went to school then you came back after a while cuz you thought maybe Molly was cooled off y don't y don't SLE no cases this easy do y'all we what got subtle cases this easy well you know sometimes things just kind of happen I know your sister she called me cuz she was scared for you she said she was going to try to tell you to come in and talk to me Lucas's family was concerned that he would be killed in retaliation depending on where he is placed while in jail it might make little difference to his safety and you talked to a couple people on the phone Kenny's scared for you do you think there's anything else that I need to know can you tell me what you think going happen I don't know I'm going to talk to the prosecutors and um see what but they're the ones that decide I just get the information I mean you know you're going to go to jail today you know that um but I tell you one good thing Dorian is um judges like it when people tell the truth or as close to the truth as they're going to and um and I think you're remorseful I think this has been bothering you for since it happened and um I think that's always taken into consideration it ain't it ain't going matter yes it will yes it will don't if there's anything else that you need to get off your chest Now's the Time to do it yeah okay we don't want to find something out you know down the road and then all this comes back all again okay so if there's other stuff that happened you need to tell this Detective let just St like what I mean anything else have you been involved in anything else or you know something else that you need to tell me no okay we're going to leave you with your thoughts for a few minutes and you think about if there's something else you want to tell me or I need to know okay we'll be back in just a few minutes a question about Jason sh yes remember when you first started you saying something about him yes can you tell me what why he was B up well I think um I mean everybody knows that Jason was you know the guy who had all the drugs in the view and people were working for Jason is that true and um I think we fought we felt that you and Molly were working somehow with Sher like you and I don't know how it works I never work drugs when I was on the street or anything don't know if like he was giving you drugs to sell and then you would give him part of the money or I don't know how all that works but that's kind of what I was thinking was happening is that kind of about Shar would give you the drugs and you would sell and give him a cut back is that right okay that's why I brought his name up okay please help me on this cuz I I really thought I was dead mhm I know I could have just kept lying but it seemed like you had my back and my sister when you buy her name up she kep say ask for you when if I ever get copyright anything try to talk to you cuz you're the best detective you be all the Vic on side even if they in the wrong or run right well I won't feed your line of [ __ ] right I'll tell you how it is and um you know when you when you tell the truth I mean as soon as I came in here babe you started shaking you knew why I was here didn't you when I See Molly name you knew why I was here and that's what you have to do you you have to tell the truth and that's what a judge appreciates is you're being truthful you you want me over when you ask me was it is selfdefense I ain't going to lie that's I would rather tell you the truth that of cute line the [ __ ] myself up well the the problem with the self defense Dorian is Molly was shot so many times the detective is honest about Lucas's prospects she feels he has been largely honest about what happened but the number of times more was shot as well as several of them being to the back are going to damage his case and he was shot in the butt several times which means his back was to you at some point you're allowed to always protect yourself but once a threat stops you can't continue what about you ain't know you just was doing it just to move and and I understand I understand what you're saying um but I I think you shot till the gun was empty since when there wasn't any bullets left and that's that's the issue that that's the problem and I know you were scared and I have no doubt that um you know there there were guns in the house and Molly had a gun um but you can't continue continue continue continue after the threat's over and and the the shots in his butt are going to hurt you to be real honest they're going to hurt you because that means his back was to you when you shot him and it might have been when you were leaving the room I don't know you know when you were just shooting so I'm going to give you a few minutes going to take a little break cuz I know this has been real hard for you and I'll come back in just a few minutes okay okay anything else you need to tell me think you're good for now okay what's going to happen is um they're going to book you in on that shooting from this morning which I really don't know what anything think about okay and then I'm going to talk to the prosecutors later on this week and tell them your the story and uh they'll decide what kind of charges in regards to Molly before you even T to me did you even um have you ever heard a story well can you tell me the first story you heard cuz I'm already he I just want to know I told you was any was anybody else trying to let you know how to yeah yeah I mean I I talked to everybody who I mentioned I talked to Kenny talk talk to Tom talk to Jimmy and and you know like I was saying how how he was trying to Dort me or anything they let you know he's getting into it yeah they said that you guys were getting into it it was like you know he was the more aggressive like he was like the one that was bringing it to me he said they said that they were that you guys had been arguing they wouldn't give me all the details just I mean just like you you're not going to tell me anything about Kenny you weren't going to tell me anything about Kenny so Kenny's only telling me the least amount that it can so I I I think that you guys were arguing and there and I have uh I believe there were guns in that apartment you know but like I told you you're problem is that he was shot more than just once or twice for some reason Lucas expects the detective to advocate for him Beyond mentioning that he was cooperative there is very little that she can do you shot a lot of times and that's that that's a big hurdle that's a problem especially shot but CU that means he's turned away from you so but I appreciate you telling me what happened I believe your story I wish you would have come in you know back when it happened I understand why you didn't um it would have looked a lot better had you come in right after it happened um but judges like it when you tell the truth they always like it when you tell the truth because it means you're stepping up you know you're you're being a man and um and the fact that you were so emotional it means you have a heart you know you're not some hardcore [ __ ] out there you understand so do you have any other questions for me I C yeah is there somebody you like me to call for you you me a call shab what's her phone number 02 what's shab's last Anderson Anderson what didn't you tell her that I love her you me ask her to put some money on your books you can you still got Tasha number I don't have right yeah yeah I was going to call Tasha anyway can you tell I will I will you know Tasha only told me some stuff cuz she's worried about you tell okay I know what you think she's trying to you know rat you out or anything she's really worried about you and since I know her she felt real comfortable talking to me and it was just a quinky de that I ended up having the case okay okay well I will call shab and I'll call Tasha and um like I said right now you're you're going to be booked on your warrant you know from that drug old drug case you've got to war for that and then um I'll talk to the prosecutors later on this week okay okay how how did you um what you record to me right cuz we need right now you're being recorded yeah we have to by law record someone when we talk to them or I could just tell you I have this amazing memory I remember everything you told me you're being recording okay you take care of yourself okay okay I'll call these woman for you okay brother okay you take care of yourself Dorian Lucas was found guilty of multiple felony charges two of them involving the death of others his first victim Natasha Hill was killed when Lucas struck her car as he attempted to evade arrest the other victim was Jamal Moore who died from his gunshot wounds Lucas was sentenced to 25 years in prison at his sentencing he showed no remorse and said always better them than me any day that'll do it for today if you like this video and want to support the channel there's a patreon link in the description below where you can do just that thank you for watching and stay safe

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Length: 69min 41sec (4181 seconds)

Published: Mon May 27 2024