RARE Marvin Gaye LOST and HONEST 1983 Interview...Talks About DEPRESSION and MOTOWN!

i got an extra one for you and one for him i was pretty large when i came back actually so yeah in order to um to perform and to be um energetic you know he's sort of got to get the weight off you know i've been at it a few years so you know we'll have our left arms drop off when we she missed them i'm going to be one of those oh yeah my husband said you must work very hard pat really have weird hours my husband said tell me what he said was a wasp joke alex see if you get this joke joe said this is a blast see i think see i get i see she got it i didn't get it you see that's why you got it that's right half and half she got half the joke we were having fish today and the the guy who broke the face the guy from the official days he took me over to meet the bartender you know at the restaurants where he says he busted the bartender and he says this is this is marvin gaye said yeah i said he said oh it's nice to meet you so the the cook who i did an autograph for told about told me so you know what this guy's to say he didn't know you said because all you guys look alike just know we're all just a little happy family yeah that's what i can understand that it's funny that's wonderful we are ready [Laughter] i love it sexual healing i'll slide under the table here at the very mention of the song top of the show yeah sexual healing a huge giant enormous hit are you surprised i'm surprised that that one is the i am very surprised are we on the air now gotta cut that sort of thing out yeah no no it's all right i am i'm very surprised and sort of not surprised um i'm a person pat who is rather strong-willed i i guess i'm strong-willed uh i'm an artist basically i like thinking myself that way and i don't like to think of being a commercialist um totally of course being not one can't have hits except one is commercial but uh i wouldn't like to think that's my uh that's my motivation i think my motivation is to uh at this point in time is to uh to get media coverage and exposure because i feel there's something much greater in my life in the future to come i'm a great believer in god and although you wouldn't think that my records my records don't suggest that i guess but um perhaps um i'm going around the bar in a different way to get to a place but um actually all that my records suggest and all of the publicity i get about the sexuality and my sensuality and my records and all that kind of stuff is uh true to an extent but not uh not totally uh marvin gaye i wouldn't think are people fixated on that part of it the sexuality part not really listening to the music and what you're trying to do oh you can't have them smooth oh that's um okay but you can't you can actually yeah you can twirl it around though i don't know it wouldn't do me any good actually that's right um misunderstood perhaps as an artist and too much too much fixation on the the literal meaning of sexual healing well why are people in 1983 even concerned about this well i don't know i think i've done i've done many albums in my lifetime and uh some have been good for people some have been bad some have given people much inspiration i know some inspired people sexually so they've never inspired people spiritually i i'm not hypocritical as though i said before my albums might suggest it i like a lot of sugar too don't i but um the thing that's important is that um as i said before that i reach what i've replied to i'm supposed to reach for it my credibility is a number one and when i finally do have something to say that i feel should be beneficial for the world and i feel the world is in an awful state of time and i feel in the future that somebody will have to say something and have some credibility and corn and those who are cornable everybody won't make it in whoever in is i just want that and uh of course i need credibility to do that and so um don't i won't have it unless i'm on top and i sort of feel that that's some why i um the heavenly father blesses me with this kind of success and i think i've learned to take it with the kind of grain of salt that once you take it with and not have such a big head about it and as i used to have when i was much younger i don't think of my success at this time as uh from an ego point of view i am very proud and very happy and i have a tremendous ego somewhat subdued presently but it surfaces now and then but i try to keep it down but i really feel that um i'm a bit misunderstood as an artist um because i don't think that people understand record artists and music artists in the same light that they understand painters or dancers or other forms of art and artists and i feel that there's absolutely no difference except that my media is music and i don't really care about a lot of things material and what people say and do and things i'm only concerned with my art is the hit record in this case it's sexual healing all right the money's okay the money is okay but there's leverage there and there's nothing i really care about either but it's a currency that gives you this credibility you're talking about more hits you have the more on top you are the more willing people are going to like to talk say what you want no it's just unfortunate that this is such a materialistic world in order for people to give you the kind of uh what shall i say acceptance um the kind of prestige that they would like to have him talk about about you and uh you have to sort of um engage yourself in this material warfare and i'm going to play the game at this point in my career that's what they want that's what i'm going to do the hit record brings not only money but status again then doesn't it yes oh he's back on top i don't know where that is never did actually i i'm awfully afraid of getting there it isn't uh i don't know where one can go after that looks to me like down so i wouldn't like to get there too soon soon ripes and rotten my mom used to always say you've had some a down period uh along the way 1975 was not a particularly good year not for wine i don't know why this is a good year for wine actually for me it um what shall i say about 1975 through 1983 hasn't been very good in fact the last seven years of my life haven't been exactly ecstatic for me i haven't been ecstatic i've been happy and i'm somewhat um most the time pretty depressed but um my depression is um i think because of my empathy for humanity and my um my feelings for the world and things and uh i am i'm awfully upset when i have to do things to achieve a certain amount of status so that i might be able to do something else so that people listen to me so if i have to do sex so they can listen to social topics that might be um viable i'll do sex first it gets them into the tent perhaps maybe not what is the most absolutely okay what was the absolute rock bottom worst moment in the last seven years well the absolutely worst rock by the moment the last seven years when i tried to commit suicide um uh through an overdose cocaine how long ago was that i was not too long ago well i was about four three years ago in hawaii i was in an emotional state of um i've never been quite so depressed i'm a bit of a manic depressant anyway most of the time i put on quite a face and an act but i'm pretty depressed most of the time anyway have as i said before a lot of healing inside for people and my love my life my job what i feel i'm here for my purpose and i'm a little reluctant sometimes to get on with it i'm afraid i'm much too emotional to be an artist really to be a really good one to be on the job all the time i guard my heart pretty pretty well these days because i'm afraid if i ever fell in love again and i met the wrong woman i don't imagine i'll live i'm a very fragile heart now i put on a pretty rough exterior and uh it's pretty thick but i imagine some lady will penetrate it again one day i hope she's the right one i was depressed because i was very much in love with my wife at the time and um i couldn't bear the thought of the rejection my ego is much too to um too heavy or whatever i would say too big too too wild to whatever to to accept rejection and i was rejected and um i had to learn the lessons of rejection and uh it's done a great deal to um heal my ego and to make me uh realize that i am probably not the um king of the earth as i've always felt i was is that what she's now prince is that what your mom told you when you were little that you were no no it's interesting better than the other kids no no she never did that i never played with the other kids when i was a little boy i didn't start playing with the kids until i was well in my teens i was always a loner which i guess is why i can grow and be alone now rather nicely without any too many problems the pain for all of its awful moments does it make the music better does it make the output better does it make the songs better well of course if um if um one wouldn't be um one could never be a fine artist if one hasn't lived and experienced most of life's um um negative negatives i guess it's enough to say and one would have to experience most of my positives also you see i guess i have gone from the depths of somewhat degradation to i've probably risen to the heights of um of uh spirituality in some cases also i felt nearly there spiritually sometimes and i felt like um the gates of hell were open for me at other times and i don't imagine an artist can be a good artist unless he's experienced something similar to that and also i don't have very much to write about do i do look upon the motown days as the good old days no no i look upon the motown days as one of the experiences in my in my life that i wouldn't give a million dollars for and i look upon the motown days as as unique experience and um experience that i would pay probably probably a million dollars to have again motown was a very loving family in the early 60s very very close very lovable very loving which causes me to wonder but sometimes but um pardon me that's my fish i think coming up with edit around it don't worry and um i feel that um i am very happy having the uh having had the opportunity to start my career at motown records and um i don't think i'd have it any other way i'm very proud of barry gordy join you as a black man who is who has managed to survive in such a such an awf well such a competitive field of music i have great respect for him he's a very great man actually and uh in fact it's interesting um i've always been on a good rapport with him not because i was in the family but because of course it helped a lot i was quite um for all my problems now i was much worse i guess you can imagine when i was younger probably totally uncontrollable um i'm very stubborn i'm arrogant i'm egotistical i'm also lovable i'm also warm i'm a lot of things but um it depends i'm principled i'm unprincipled sometimes i am probably quite schizophrenic i'm very difficult to live with i don't imagine any woman could live with me for any appreciable amount of time it's been proven all my life and i'm afraid i'll accept that um i think that being with motown has been an incredible experience for me and i've loved it i have some magnificent memories and um i wouldn't pay anything for them you have a nostalgic feeling about it that like if to turn the clock back and live those years again or have them be now oh well no i don't think i'd like to turn the clock back in that sense not to come off sounding hypocritical again but what i'm saying is i would like to start all over and do the same thing yes i would like to start again with motel but perhaps because of the environment if i had my web i just sort of like to rewrite the script a little bit so that i could be a bit happier but i enjoyed the um the environment very much it was my learning ground you know stevie the supremes attempts we all helped each other in the studio it was quite fun i learned most of my musicianship when i first came to motown years ago and um it was um it was great fun for me um i would have probably paid them for the uh the opportunity you see you feel that this with sexual healing and the success you're having now is real come comeback and you see another another part of your life beginning a sense that a door has opened well [Music] i'm not sure because i'm not doing an awful lot about it presently i mean i'm not digging is that what i'm not working oh yeah not that i don't not that i won't work but i'm not working presently what you're asking is if i'm anxious to go out and earn the bread and start a whole new career and look upon my success at this time as um a whole new start in life yes in a sense it is for me uh in a sense as a coup de grace in a great sense um i have had a measure of revenge in certain aspects and those who know what i'm talking about know what i'm talking about but tell me what do you mean well i wouldn't like to go into that because um it's rather personal but i'm sure those who are listening to this know exactly what i mean and we'll leave it at that and um i just would like to say i'm i'm a survivor i think and uh i am i feel i'm as good as anybody and perhaps better not to be specific about the revenge but there must be a sense of aha i'm back on top and i'll show you yes um you know i'm honest don't you i think you're playing unfair because i am honest yes in a sense yes but not totally there's nothing wrong with that though that's that's those are human normal feelings to have yeah but that's just it i don't want to feel human and normal i just want to be an artist i hate those human normal feelings i like the feelings i have as an artist when i'm out in the woods in the rain or sitting by myself in the sun and having god shine on me i like that calling much better i don't like the idea of um those other little nasty nagging things that i like to get back at each at people because of my aries blood and um my tenacity or whatever i got but um yes there's a certain satisfaction i chuckle a lot i think so [Music] okay well i it there are not a lot of people eating at six o'clock at night at a long time that's what they want to do beautiful restaurant is it pretty cool it's wonderful are you ready yeah so let's go all right yes sir this whole revenge thing is is interesting because when i accepted my american music award from this the clark i um had this marvelous acceptance piece already to um say these nice things cleverly and get back at those that i thought needed a few words of encouragement and i don't know if you saw the show but um i paused for a few seconds and something told me uh don't be ridiculous just accept this award and say thank you and praise god get the heck off the stage how about a grammy like to have one i'd love to win a grammy i i've sat at the grammys so many years now hoping i'd won an award and lou walls has won them all from me so um [Music] i don't think i'm bitter about that but um the very last time he won morty he won one from me gave me such a smile i got chills from it was number three and um i told my wife i was gonna tackle him he came down off the stage and grabbed it and caused a big stink at the grammys but uh she didn't think that was too wise an idea so i didn't but perhaps i'll win one this time i i've never won an award except for the one i won [Music] at the american music awards the first award i've won in my career and i found it most gratifying i loved it and if i win a grammy um i'll be i'll be very happy very thrilled i'm nominated in three categories perhaps i'll win one i want to ask about [Music] discrimination on the radio is there discrimination on the radio black artists discriminated against uncertainty and some fm stations well of course there's lots of it done not only is there discrimination but there is um tampering with one's art which um drives me berserk i wouldn't think that leonardo da vinci would put up with somebody putting uh uh a different sort of finger on the mona lisa or an ear or changing an ear or nose or the eyes or something he's an artist and when he finishes his work it's his work it's his life's work it's his blood and sweat sweating his tears i don't feel people should tamper with an artist's work and music they feel this jockeys and music people feel awfully free with um editing and splicing and changing things about and it drives me crazy in fact it's the reason why i left motown and why i asked barry gordy to release me my last album in our lifetime was tampered with um horribly and uh it was abominable to me and i am i couldn't deal with it anymore and i'm which is basically why i asked to be released and um i find that um this jockeys will will add things to your records and take things off and lengthen your intros and change your bridges around and things and i go totally bananas and i feel that someone someone should um institute some sort of lawsuit and perhaps um uh that sort of thing can be changed i don't feel that that's that's right for them tamper with an artist um music i really don't i don't feel it should be touched i would rather didn't play my music than to touch it frankly i would i don't care if i had a hit if i never had a hit i'd rather they don't touch it why don't many am and some fm stations play black artists well traditionally black artists are um well you see you have to go back a bit dear you see because um a few years you see it's taken a few years about 400 or so for white america to come to the point where they feel that rhythm and blues as we call it or rhythm and pop these categories kill me too um is acceptable in in the homes of white america there was a time when you couldn't bring uh a soul record in and the home in white america is get that record out of here you know i mean you're not going to listen to that stuff i always started with the rock and roller you see when and elvis and everybody he was sort of taking after a chuck beer and all the the and this is so slowly starting to change i said well jesus christ mom if uh if my white uh favorite acts are doing music that's akin to chuck berry and little rich and everything i like that stuff but the okay it's okay you can bring that in here but mom it's the same music really basically that the black people are doing it so to change it around a bit so fight art is doing it but basically the same stomach we have but it's the white artists doing it's okay it's acceptable we don't want any black artists doing it here because it's too raw well there's something about being raw you see let's take reggae for instance bob marley is very interesting because what he's done is he's taking his rich music and the roots are there very raw and very ritzy but bob marley is intelligent enough or was intelligent enough god bless him and i love him to take the roots leave it ritzy and incorporate some of the western type music on top of and integrate certain things into music to take the rawness of it so that it can sort of be accepted by other nationalities because simply if you don't feel something or you don't understand something you kind of say i don't understand that so i can't get into that i can understand montefani and lawrence wealth but i can't understand this so you see it's simply a matter of blending and coming together music is universal nobody music belongs to no one music belongs to god and so as the business is becoming the way it's becoming today it seems that there seems to be a coming together all of the world of music and it's going to come to a point where there will probably be no more categories after one music will simply be music however you do it and it'll be accepted it's fascinating coming to that but there are those in the business who insist on holding on to the last vestiges of their prejudices meaning a little simple thing like winning an american music award and then winning in all the categories and then you watch the television the next day and then you want to see yourself in your category and they say and the pop singer of the year is um blah blah blah blah roger dalton or barbara any white pop actor then they'll go back down the list and then you don't see any rhythm and blues um acts on the tv it's like we're we're not prestigious enough to put uh who won in the black soul categories well we'll admit that because it's not that sort of things too but sort of burns my crawl a little bit i'm a rhythm and blues artist and a soul artist and a black singer but i'm i'm intelligent enough to want to sing my black music and i still be intelligent uh still have feelings i'm a human being so i sing black music but it doesn't take anything from my intelligence factor doesn't take anything for my humanness it doesn't take anything for my empathy as i said before my love why shouldn't i be categorized marvin gaye one in the soul category i'm a person too i'm a musician there are musicians who borrow my music and they become famous and they can get their names on tv in their categories barring my music but i can't be on the tv saying shown that i want to now that isn't very nice [Music] you were written to by a disc jockey in uh ohio i think it was who was fired well by the way i must say something about ted turner did show the um the ted turner news agency on it did show the r b category winners good for them yes i thought i'd give ted a shot good i think he's a good man tell me about the young woman disc jockey who was fired well there's some business about um there was a pretty um middle of the road um well maybe far right station in ohio and um apparently and the lyrics of sexual healing or perhaps just title is too suggestive to play on certain radio stations which i can understand but do they also play the suggestive lyrics of the rolling stones yes yes of course but um well darling you see um it simply depends you see there's um we have to sort of come along slowly which is okay i don't mind i'm coming along slowly i'm about to play out i'm 43 years old and i don't imagine i'll be in the business but another 10 or so years and my predecessors will probably enjoy lots of the um media coverage and non-presidents non-prejudicial treatment that we my contemporaries contemporary artists of the day are not enjoying i can see things changing perhaps before i'm retired and when i retire i guarantee you i will retire i don't imagine i will see things the way i would like to see them totally in my lifetime before i retire but i'm sure that my predecessors young black artists who are coming up will see tremendous changes in the business as it goes along i can see many changes being made many attitudes changing and i'm i'm sure we'll get there in time just like um we are enjoying a measure of freedom in america as black people that we've never enjoyed before takes time but eventually we'll get there no not at all because how many people kind of know that i have a terrible memory i'd have to look down so i wanted to remember this gay is dead allegedly killed by his father why did it happen terry drinkwater looked for the answer bad blood between father and son that was what the police called it today fans this afternoon who passed the family home where it happened played his music and prayed for the soul from which it came well there's god and and the devil and the devil just just won this one this time but still the force of god is going to win in the end i think the dispute authorities now conclude began saturday night an argument over insurance between the 69 year old minister and his renowned son the shouting continued sunday and then the argument turned physical there was some pushing and shoving and apparently marvin jr got the was getting the better of that and the mother interceded and separated them moments later the father reappeared he had a handgun with him and he fired two shots fatally wounding marma game no drugs no alcohol were involved [Music] will be remembered for his hits what's going on herded through the grapevine and sexual healing he was loved by millions of fans and three children today he would have been 45. terry drinkwater cbs news hollywood [Music] gate died at this los angeles hospital a gunshot wound to the chest he'd been shot during a fight at his parents house and police say his father pulled the trigger he became involved in a verbal dispute with his father marvin gaye senior that subsequently led to a physical dispute pushing and shoving marvin gaye senior armed himself with a handgun and fired several shots wounding marvin gaye jr police have charged the elder gay with murder they say father and son had been arguing about insurance but they believe there had been bad blood before that gay's death came at a time when he was making a comeback after years of problems both personal and professional sexual healing by marvin gaye just last year he wanted grammy for the song sexual healing [Music] sexual healing was the last in a string of hits that began more than 20 years ago [Music] despite all those hits marvin gate in his own mind never made it to the top i don't know where that is never did actually i i'm awfully afraid of getting there this isn't uh i don't know where one can go after that looks to me like down [Music] marvin gaye would have been 45 years old tomorrow andrea averson cbs news los angeles [Music] is [Music] we're in the matter of marvin penn's gays senior case number a751295 matters here for arraignment and plea do i have the appearance of council please donald brack for the people philadelphia for the defendant mr schreiber your client is charged in account one with a violation of 187 of the penal code with a special allegation of personally using a firearm are you ready to enter a plea at this time i'm not under i'm not ready to enter a play this particular time here i wish to make a motion uh with respect to the defendant uh it is my opinion that a that this matter should be referred to department uh uh 95 for an evaluation uh concerning mental competency uh i feel that uh such evaluation would be necessary and essential for me to defend this gentleman and for him to aid in his own defense do you believe that he is presently clearly incapable of understanding the nature and the purposes of this proceeding and also unable to conduct his own defense or to assist you in conducting a good reason to have that opinion your honor just so we can keep this matter going in a timely fashion would you be willing to waive further raymond further statement of rights and i will enter a plea of not guilty porn [Music] courtland or plea of not guilty for mr gay it appears that mr gay based on the comments of council would qualify under 13 today in los angeles yesterday thousands of fans got a chance to pay their last respects marvin gaye's father is charged with murdering him the prosecutor explained why the charges were raised to first-degree murder first shot was fired at some distance the second shot was fired at close to point-blank range so apparently he moved in indicating he had time to reflect on what he was about to do which would elevate it from a manslaughter to a murder marvin gaye's father has been ordered to undergo psychiatrists mayor tom bradley declared this a day of mourning for marvin gaye who was fatally shot sunday terry drinkwater was there as family friends and fans remembered [Music] so many who had been on stage with him came diana ross called him the most wonderful of men i want to raise people's consciousness he said i like to give them hope well brother marvin [Music] you did that gay's mother was all but overcome with grief his father arrested for his murder underwent psychiatric tests today [Music] last night more than ten thousand fans mourned the slain soul singer more than had paid tribute to anyone else at this cemetery where so many of the famous of show business are buried [Music] his ashes will be scattered at sea terry drinkwater cbs news hollywood

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Published: Fri Nov 30 2018