RANKING EVERY NHL TEAM FOR THE 2023/24 SEASON I TIER LIST

are we live what are we live I think we probably are now and we are live and we are back for even more ridiculous predictions I say ridiculous even though I actually looked at last year's tier list wasn't that terrible there were some ones that were a little bit suspect for picks but overall not that terrible but we are back we good at this yeah we're nailing this yeah we're just doing I mean go ahead Corin you have the actual tier list so why don't you to show it show it on screen what we're doing here I don't have control over who sees what but Sam you like to show it I can definitely also true talk about it but it's uh yeah we we've as per usual we have a bunch of random uh categories that we are trying to fit these teams into cup favorites just so the rules obviously if you haven't watched one of these before we only ever put one team in cup favorites that's just just I don't know it feels like there's some separation there there's going to be one team that we're going to put Above the Rest we're going to have some arguments about that there's going to be votes things like that uh basically next you've got the cream of the crop that's your teams that are kind of just in contention with that Cup favorit team obviously there's so much parity in the NHL that it's pretty hard to get clearcut defined teams that only fit into one of these categories it's going to be very opinionated so I'm sure we're going to have lots of arguments about it there's playoffs likely that's probably probably going to be the less contentious one where people are just kind of yeah they're pretty good teams they're probably going to make it I doubt they're going to go far in the playoffs but like we'll see them there you think of like uh like what well I'm not gonna no spoilers the Jets are playing like I feel like they should fall that category likely I'll decide wow uh then wild card fight pretty self-explanatory I think that's the more like borderline teams they're they could get in could be out pretty 5050 coin flip there uh bad but not bad enough as in that's probably the worst place you could ever be a fan of a team because you know nothing out of that yeah you're not making the playoffs you're not going to get that first overall pick unless you have some crazy Stroke of Luck Blackhawks but uh the uh and then the first overall favorites which I think I I personally think there's two clear teams in that one but uh I guess we're going to find out we've got you can see the teams there listen at the bottom that is the order that we're going to go in and it uh we kind of just rotate person to person we also do have uh something that we've wanted for a long time in this show since since we started with this room we started talking about interviewing uh an NHL player in here and we thought it's not shares where would they sit there's literally no big enough for four people who needs an NHL player when you have the zis Zone Thomas P yeah what's going on guys all right I got my book here I'm GNA keep track of all the nonsense that you guys are saying today I'm writing it down and I'm challenging you guys with it so what is this like PTI too yeah so you better be sharp Jesse okay I'm always why why even why even ask we'll see how it goes but yeah the Z zone I'll scrap you in the Zer zone right now please don't get out of your chair I'll scrap you like buddy come here anytime you want is Jesse suggesting the zis zone is the crease where people just Pummel TR Z and teammates yes oh gosh oh yeah okay uh I mean with that said I don't know what the order that we're doing this in you do you got it right in front of you no no I don't know who to what team well luk is going to start us off you you could probably guess who probably guess who got that one we got our favorite teams is z do Buffalo Corin Toronto and Jesse winipeg Yeah here we go fire me up so their team I mean let's let's just start with the Colorado Avalanche you guys are probably thinking I'm going to put them in stand the cup favorites I I me wild card I think you should got a good shot at a wild got a good shot at a wild card spot playoffs probably likely I'm going to put them wild guard probably likely I'm going to put them in cream of the crop to start because I don't want to be the Homer I don't want to be the Homer that puts them in cup favorites I have my argument for why they should be cup favorites I think they've got the best Decor in the league um their dep is CH stick them in there stick none of us are putting them up there for it I would have put them in C favor to Mak you feel that's okay then because I I genuinely want to want to see what other team because I feel like I've put them in every time we've done this tier list I want to I want to see what is this guy doing Jonathan druin what what am I doing Jonathan I will say this give this guy the lady Bing give it to I will say this the depth is definitely questionable and that's the thing that kind of plummeted them last year in the playoffs where it was McKinnon it was ranin and around them without Landis Cog like they were pretty pretty weak in the depth department so you don't believe in joh I believe in him but like is there reason to believe in him what about not really Johansson is solid I like him I like Ross Colton I like m like I think their dep is in a better spot than it was last year but I want to see how all the pieces fit I want to give the ABS the benefit of the doubt that they know what pieces will fit into this roster and I have no doubts that they'll be one of the cup favorites probably a final four team but there are a few teams I actually really like this year as well forup favor so you genuinely already have a team in mind for likeup favorite like there's one team that being honest I looked at the rosters looked at Daily face off I'm just like wow this team top to bottom I love their lineup I love it a little more than Colorado without Landis Cog and I think Landis Cog is the kind of the key piece so if they do something at the trade deadline this could obviously um change in my mind but I want to see it a little bit from them I think I know what Lucas is I just I have my own guess and my guess is that it's an Eastern Conference team is just my guess it's not an Eastern Conference Team he is a big rers guy mind then it's not no it's not the o no no it's not the O I don't know but what do you guys think I mean I I know we'll keep we'll keep the team where it is I think there's no doubt they're in the cream of the crop I think I think the only I think the only reason to feel encouraged about drewan obviously is because of what him McKinnon did together like that that could be I mean anyone playing with McKinnon is like a huge H that's crazy to think of them in the same age group for some reason to me I don't know why like I just don't just because obviously their careers have just gone in such Jonathan Drew's a perennial young guy yeah no legit like I just thinkal herma young I think he's going to do really well but I mean we have no track record of him doing well in the NHL to prove that he's going to do well way you said it just feels so harsh I don't know why it it's very harsh but like it's true it feels like I've heard that when I was in school it's no you've shown no track recer something you need to see it sometimes and I need to see it from him yeah tough okay uh and then so I'm next I guess do you have do you have Minnesota yeah I got Minnesota Wild and uh I got to say sometimes I like Minnesota now it's not one of those that I love kabov I think he's unbelievable but like I think for them to be like there there's two categories I'm putting them in kind of like like it's in between that almost and uh I'm gonna put them in wild card fight oo because I just think they need a pretty massive step forward from either Marco Rossi or uh like even Matthew were like I think you was great last year man yeah but I think you need more from him even like they they just did not get enough from beyan COV and that that that line obviously the zukar and Hartman like it it just I don't know I don't think it's enough and Jared Spurgeon starting the year like week- to week injury they've got no Dumba as well well yeah I think a lot of it is going to rely on their goal tending I think guson if he can be as good as he was last year this should be a playoff team yeah I I just I went through I picked my playoff team I just think the one thing is that like the Pacific has so many ridiculously good teams that I think by the end of this we're going to like it's one of those things where I actually saw a really funny comment on the last the top 25 players video we did where where a guy was like I swear to God there are at least 15 players in the top 10 in the NHL yeah and it's like it's one great com because you like there's so many I actually think we were talking about League parody there's so many good teams and like there's so many teams that I think of as like oh maybe they sneak in and then I write out my playoffs and I'm like no only I don't think they make it obviously fight I think they they can get in the only reason I think playoff's likely is because I think you mentioned the Pacific is really good I think the Central's not as good so I think they're like kind of a shoe in for a top three Central spot interesting so you so okay but you said you said you were going to have Jets playoff likely if they're playoff likely we'll see are you having Minnesota over the ad let me let me get to the Jets just let me talk get to the Jets I'm just saying I would Stars Jets I have over them I don't have the Jets over them so i' I'd probably swap jets in Minnesota if we were to do it but I'm okay with leaving them here for now if if I think St Louis is another team that could bounce back this year person we we'll get we'll get to them okay we'll get let's go with let's leave Minnesota there then I I just I just I'm going to be very honest as a Jetson first of all I want to give kudos to the Jets for wait actually I want to say one other thing about uh Minnesota it is Brock Faber if he makes a team that's kind of fun yeah that that is like a fun thing and a full season of Marco Ross Marco Ross finally I actually like Minnesota this year I I if anything I think they might I don't know are you keeping them where they are in this this though what you no I would put them to playoffs likely and I'm going to be honest first of all I got to just give props to the Jets for resigning shle and hellu and look other than a couple players who have left like Lon obviously left for the mo for the most part the Jets have done considering everyone chirps Winnipeg they've done a pretty unbelievable job at retaining players I'm serious you look at n sorry I had something in my throat the whole time there we have Lowry like all these guys who the Jets draft just end up staying which is an amazing thing it says a lot about the organization the city the people who live there we may not get free agents but damn it guys choking on his love for Winnipeg ah wa a there go there you go insane but if if I'm going to be honest I'm not saying that they're not going to make the playoffs but we're probably in that wild card fight uh section um I again like there's I there are a lot of pieces that I like on the Jets I think there's some question marks we need guys to take steps forward like I think cul fatty just has to stay healthy and have a good year this year it's tough to say like he needs to stay healthy no one wants to get injured but if he can healthy I think he's going you mean need more in a way of like if the Jets want to do this if the Jets want to take the next step we're going to need a lot out of out of Peretti like that's just bottom line I think Valar is going to be great yeah and and and I really I don't know like I think the Jets are really in the we're headed in the right direction I don't know if this is necessarily the year where I'm just like feeling confident that we're going to make a deep run but still I think that we're going to be in that wild card fight for sure I do think though that Minnesota is probably a tier above them interesting I actually think I I think they're very similar I I would have them as they're not far off yeah they're not that far off all right I guess on Blues Blues feel like super middle of the road where it's like obviously last year they didn't make the playoffs and the year before the expectations would have been higher and again I know when preseason everyone's like super hyped on their Top Line and it is a nasty first line it's genuinely one of the best in hockey no yeah it's a gross sign most Inyo but again like they lost two of their best players in in at the deadline they didn't replace them because like it's been pretty quiet in free agency I don't think that they're going to be horrible but like and they're above that middle ground of they're definitely not going to be fighting for picks or even considering anything like that but I don't know I feel like it's a wild card like like they could do better than that it wouldn't totally shock me but I wouldn't shock me if they missed the playoffs either so I just feel like a wild card just feels like Fair as an initial assessment heading into the year I'd go I'd go tier lower yes go until like again that first line is nasty I've never been a big believer in in Bennington as as your goalie and like the deore is just continuing to age and continuing to just have some bad contracts on it like they I'm sure they want to get out of the crew contract just they yeah I was going to say there's guys on on their deor that like were thought of so highly at one time just likeo was like a team Canada lock at some point in his career and it's just never panned out to that it fluctuates too CU even like Robert Thomas like I feel like people were super high on him and it's like people are still good but still like a little bit level below what you would would have thought he is so I don't know they could they're weird they're one of those teams who like they could totally just bounce back and make us all look super stupid or I don't know again I think it's wild cards K kyou is going to be outstanding this year I think definitely the main issue is is yeah you don't know what you're getting with Bennington but I think that that blue line is just like nothing to write home about yeah vote to move him down this is Mo you know what you know what okay personally I would leave them in the Wild Card fights because I think that like they have just as good a chance as realistically making the playoffs as the Jets but but I I do think I do think though that this team up front is actually deeper than people might be giving the credit for like remember when they signed vanana like vanana is a guy who could just like be very good this year ESPN fantasy was super high on him for that Weir that was they had like they had him for like 30 goals dude they also they also they also have Kevin Hayes who's like good good as your third lineer poti anden killer like so you you talked into just keeping them where they are I no I personally would keep them where they are but if you guys want to switch it then like my my thing with that is like we talked before about this that like part of the things you want to avoid in when you're kind of like ranking teams like this is having half the league and wild card fight cuz like yeah you could say that but like then we're really not going out on a limb for anything it's a team that we're and again obviously we can make adjustments at the end but personally I yeah I would it in terms of trying to create some separation between some of these teams because if I'm being honest I don't think they're as good as the Jets or the wild I agree with that okay onlybe you guys vote them down like I wouldn't yeah we'll see and by the way just before we move on the next team I just say this is live so yes and we are reading some of your comments is it is it your decision though if it's a tie no I think it's it's a vote no well if it's but we have a fifth person in here in the zone we got Z Zone Z Zone this could be the deciding vote I am the deciding vote wow here we go and I'm already like I got notes and notes over here like what we we've been here for like 10 minutes and he has like 60 p you're going to need another note and I'm I'm already tired of standing so like this is so where are the blues going yeah where are the blues going he's put him down like I I'm kind of into what Jesse's saying and I think they're they're deep up front I'm not not a big bton guy either though I agree with you Luca so I think in the spirit of like having some separation we're moving them down wow there it is down respect respect and thank you for all love of the goat head Jersey woo take that oh in the thing nice this guy just rapping the state of New York I know I didn't really think about that when I was in the washroom just washed my hands in the mirror I was like that's a it's a little much WoW anyways welcome to Western New York what's that commercial yeah it's like why was that no cuz we we get a lot of Western New York commercials up here yeah um there's like the one channel that's like the Buffalo Channel and that's what commercial on it all the time I don't know what that was but hey hey if people are from Buffalo let me know Welcome to Arizona that's me Arizona okay I want to be bold at the coyotes but I don't know if I want to take that next step because I'm looking at where the Wild and the Jets are and I'm like the coyotes definitely aren't up there they're a very fun team um 21 of their 28 wins last year we're at mullet kind of a fortress 21 that's CRA only seven Road WIS which really is not good so they uh they need to improve in that but also it's something where like we're saying 21 wins which is like pretty much 500 no basically 500 they're a bad team at home into horrendous this team on the world you're right it is more 15 and I think they had five or six overtime losses so like I'm saying that while also thinking I love them oh I love them too and like I really want to put them in wild card fight but I I don't think I can I think like this this is the perfect fun but but not good category last year so bad but not good enough but like I think everyone's really excited to see Logan kolie Barrett Hayden Clayton Keller I just want to watch their power play they also added like they also added like Dumba yeah a lot of good veterans dersy will probably play their top power play unit which like top power play of Keller kolie uh like I don't know schaltz is really underated really vaki was pretty good at the end of last year really good down the their guy on D though I think vaki was like they've got Mo he wasn't that far off of like a close to a point per game guy towards the end of the season they've got Moser and Sodom on the back end as well a couple young like highly drafted guys that they're looking to get some more out of too they yeah they I just I can't I can't with how good the Pacific is just put them in wild card fight because I don't think they're quite there yet but I wouldn't be surprised if they end up there this year in a wild card fight I also don't know if I would put them ahead of the Blues personally no I don't think I'm put but they're not a first overall favorite I think they're they're still on that tier def definitely not there's also a lot of people in the comments going for [ __ ] rookie of the years which we'll have our awards at the we'll pick some award I might be with them I might be with them we we're doing awards at the end that goal he scored in Australia was I wish it was a regular season goal cuz I feel like we're just not going to talk about it enough that was one of the most disgusting goals I've ever seen wow yeah all right big year for the Minnesota Golden Gophers who's the next team uh not big enough though man no no I just mean this year in the NHL because like with what Faber and him I know but Quinnipiac yeah Sam Lipkin what a pass to R for the national championship that game that game like college hockey is so electric and that game was nuts yeah I feel like college hockey is getting better and better like oh my God man I feel like I'm going to tune in way more this year because like oh yeah like even like Max sabrini going in there and stuff like it's like I don't know that's and and Eiserman uh committing to their next year how insane is that yeah but I was also why can't he go there this year I would love if like I don't know what I guess he's probably age I don't think he's old enough I know but he's the same same age group right like that'll in that half so it sucks that they can't play like together now it would be sick anyways are you Chicago Chicago uh I'm gonna be quick with this one easy it's badar they're bad but not bad enough I don't think like I actually funny enough we even saw last night like I actually think they'll get some wins and like they're like I don't know I don't I don't think they're the worst team in the league by any means and they uh I think they will scrape together some wins they're not going to get a top pick again unless obviously they uh just fluke into it but uh I just yeah you can't say enough about Bard but kind of everyone already has so I'm not gonna go on about it well K Kinski let's go oh I love Corin I just think though funny was that face off by the way cuz it was like it was a really nice moment he was just like wel the NH like yeah yeah yeah and he was so clearly nervous at the point he was like I am trying to be dialed in right now dude I'm about to take on Sydney Crosby in the biggest moment of my life so far lost clean yeah it was like it was the easiest face off of K's life likeed he said that in the interview after like I just lost it so brutally yeah he's so also like Bard already one of the funniest players in the league the compos comedic composure even just uh interview composure just to be like oh thanks in that moment versus like yeah yeah cool dude like I just just back to I think like and it is worth mentioning when you have a player like that on your team you could really they he's just going to win you some games that's the bottom L yeah I think mhm all right so we keep them where they are thenor they're still by the way definitely a bad team not not good okay I'm it's my turn with with Nashville I honestly like don't really get the Predators right now like the hype or any of what they're doing no like what they're doing I agree like I I I just they just seem like they're in the stage where they want to still kind of be competitive but they have like some good young players coming up like evangelista's sick thomasino thomasino's great um and they they even have Winnipeg Legend Cody glass who who picked it up for them last year uh but then like they go out and they get O'Reilly which I don't really understand I feel like they still have like some oldish players on their team they still have like forsberg signed for a boatload of years who who I think is great and they have Sorrows like they have some pieces to be good but they're also just like I feel like they're they're not accepting that they need to move on to the next chapter as well so I just don't especially compared to the other teams like maybe they'll be fighting for a wild card spot like I feel like they kind of fall in a just just bad but not bad enough and between the Wild Card fights um I can't really say that I think that I mean Soros is kind of a reason to think that they'd be better than the blues but I don't like their roster that I don't know what do you guys think no I I think they're pretty similar to the blues exactly like bad but not bad enough maybe but like if someone wanted to stick them in the wild card fight i' understand because I feel like nashille is going to be one of those teams that like either's just going to make the wild card or they're just going to miss okay I'm with my definition I guess wild card fight but oh but let's do bad but not bad enough okay I'm I'm good with that I put them next to the blues because I was like you know they deserve to be right there I put them at the top of bat but not bad enough and like I like as much as I hate to say it I feel like the Jets could also be almost be categorized in that PR's blue category but hey you guys want to them better they better I think they have a better roster and then huk is like I think pretty equivalent to Soros so like and I think the Jets Decor is solid like again the Jets Decor is okay it's solid I I think like the top end of Nashville's is better than the Jets but I think that Jets have better depth yeah I mean we don't we we defin I mean Mor she's incredible but Yoshi's like Yoshi's Yoshi you know yeah we know you were high up on him I love our top 25 stud here we go Z okay um this is all about this is all about yeah I have the Dallas Stars and this is all about as you guys said just go for it just put them in a category you think that they belong in and this is for fun anyways I'm going to do what I think Luca probably should have done I'm putting them cup favorites that's the one I was put fa because if you have three guys who' all argue their top five in the league in their position you have a a first line that's as good as theirs and again goalies goalies goalies like a dude you can just depend on I'm putting them and they made it to the Conference Finals anyways like I it's not even like I'm sure there are a lot of people's pick to be like in and around that so there's not like there's some hot take but I'm planting them there right now we got we got someone that stood up in the Z saying Robert I'm saying Robertson Hein and I'm saying AER oh yeah the three and then they also have like hints speak to the top five going and getting mat Shane this off he does not have to be your number one Center he's on your second line with Tyler San you've got Jamie Ben still you've got so many good young players such a good year underrated and now he just he just has all the pressure off of him having to be like contributor why Johnson like so many good guys but he he he'll be back we have a all right one one division down kind of like the that's the end of theion chimed in so he I thought there was a stat correction oh no no you know what pretty quick to get up over there I was I was checking in on on some of the stats you guys were saying pretty impressed by Luca that that Arizona one checks out your valami one point per game no in the last in the in the final stretch you know what 14 points in his last 22 I'll give you that too okay thought you got close so no no no no that's kind of it's not it's not that I think I think because he said you know sort of close to a point per game break out young player I'll give him that 14 points and 22 games for defenseman in Arizona that is good he had three games for three points though kind of kind of bring yeah know he's still so just you want he might also be doing some power play time over there yeah Sol solid take and honestly most of the takes I'm and this is kind of Might defeat the purpose of the Zer zone I'm I'm agreeing with a lot of what you guys are saying but I will say this first we'll start off with the Colorado Avalanche because they were the first team Jonathan drwan okay I'm I'm as a Montreal Canadian fan I've watched a ton of Jonathan drewan I know he hasn't scored double digit goals since I was in high school if you guys want to stat for that so I don't know [ __ ] you're like you're like 20 how old are you 21 I'm 21 but still but still that's like five years ago years 5 years ago I guess so I okay that's a long time ago yeah yeah 2018 in high school that's like three years okay all right but also also you can't really hate on him for that cuz like your team was terrible okay but he was one of the guys that was supposed to make us good and he never he do have to be that but I also said that I don't know if he's good so no no no you know what I'm I'm intrigued by him I'm not going to sit here and say like you're crazy fore that Jonathan drwan scores more than 10 goals I think so too I'm just saying like he literally has nothing ZR by the way I think you got you got a minute on the clock to get all your shots fired okay that's fair I I just want to say one thing I'm way more into the Minnesota Wild than all of you I think they're a very good team they got great goal tending they got a ton of depth going forward the decor I'm a little concerned about but I just find Minnesota's like always a gritty team that plays tough hockey and they're going to be competing in the playoffs I agree completely but that's why like I think playoffs likely would be totally okay for the wild I don't know if I'm going to call them Crum of the crop like you got to be care I hope you don't call call it like that of the of the of the that's we have the bad teams that's crumbs they not not they're not the soup theour but like you know they're like under that they're on the menu all right let's move to the next side I'm changing the category names playoff likely is now crumbs of the crop I said crumb of the crop wait do you guys Crum are you guys in on Dallas like being cup favorites no okay yeah look I I actually I don't I don't disagree like I think it's totally reasonable that you did that personally I would have stuck Colorado in above them but I think that like you want to do Dallas I I because they can get listen they can get supplanted in there like but I think right now don't care it belongs in that spot I think of what we they're a well-rounded team I had them finishing above the apps too cuz I do think I think they are less susceptible to injuries if that makes sense I agree with that they can they can withstand any kind of injury because of the depth of that team they're so good whereas like you guys lose again like you always seem to McKinnon or Mar Rand or something for a bit like it it hurts you quite a bit yeah and we did win the central like with the injuries last year but at the same time like I think just Dallas got better this off seon when they were already really good and made to the Conference Finals yeah all right I think I think Colorado got better too though man I think they I think signing wood Colton and and getting Johansson like oh man that a l they're definitely better than last year but I would move Dallas down for sure I just I don't really care because I'm I'm going to suggest someone else let's move on to the next division anyways and if they move they move okay Oilers moving on Oilers okay wow we're starting the Pacific they I I don't know how much time I want to spend on it because I feel like it's the same thing I talk about with the Oilers every year they're cream of the crop I don't think they're Stanley Cup favorite only real addition they made this year was adding Connor Brown um defense is a huge question mark goalie is a huge question mark in 16 of their 28 playoff games they allowed four more goals last year that is horrendous you will not win a Stanley Cup by winning shootout games every single game in the playoffs just won't happen it's not sustainable only two forwards scored more than three playoff goals last year McDavid and Dr Idol no one else had more than three playoff goals of their forward group hasn't changed much I really don't trust their defense in their goal tending they're going to run rough shot through the regular season I'm sure McDavid and dry cider are going to have a million points and they probably will do it in the playoffs and they're definitely both good enough to carry this team to a cup but I think there are better teams overall that still have that power but are just more well-rounded that I'd trust Jack so negative so what are you putting in cream of the crop because I think a lot of people the Oilers Stanley Cup favorites betting odds for if Jack Campbell actually is just even like way better than he obviously starter though no but like what if he is like let's just say he gets back to that and he is what he was are they going to give him a chance to though of course they pay him the money they have to give him some pres they give him a chance at some point if I think him and skner will split but I just mean if I'm just saying in the in this situation cuz you're obviously super hard what was he before but what was he before like he was never a top 10 goalie he was maybe like a top 15 guy I'm just asking if it changes your mind not really okay because I I just haven't seen it from him so I don't think that's going to happen I I do I don't think you're giving enough credit to like I know whatever like you're saying in the playoffs they they had some like pretty crazy games but I think like once they got eolm in the regular season like they were so good for that stretch run and I I think he's a Difference Maker on the blue line for that I don't disagree man but exactly like in the playoffs are still leaking goals Skinner Skinner couldn't stop a beach ball in that second series like I I I I agree like until we see I think specifically more so than anything the goal tending like until we see like consistent good goal tending from the Oilers they they they're not they're not going to get it done I agree they can't just win all their games and shootouts they need to acquire another D they lost to the best team in the playoffs by the way so like they like they that's against the Vegas golden knights that were the Stanley Cup champions and I genuinely think like they looked incredible and they also dummied them a couple times like the Oilers blew them out of the water in a couple games so we're giving them all the negative of like how they surrendered a bunch of goals sometimes but then they had like massive wins over the Stanley Cup champions in those playoffs that series could have gone so differently with like a couple minor things so could the Jets and Vegas series like we won game one game three we Los in double overtime off of a terrible bounce off of Dylan Samberg could have been a could have been a six or seven game series exactly and I think the Jets are pretty good I'm just saying I'm not GNA bury this team because of just like one thing like all of you can be right at the same point I'm more partial to your opinion where I think now we're kind of underrating them a little bit but at the same time like are any of you moving it from cream of the crop no that that's why I don't think I don't think I think they're a better team than the Stars I I would put fa I team I disagree with that but cuz I also think you guys overrate ainger like crazy like like you said he's a top five goal in the league I don't think that's true I think it's true a lot better than what the Oilers have yeah I I feel like I ended my point with like they can definitely win the Stanley Cup like I don't think there's any reason to think that they can't win the St of the cup because of their highend talent but yeah I guess I was more of starting it from a place of like yeah I think they're like betting odds and people are really high on them to win the cup and this is why I don't think they are quite there negative on them as if like you're already discussing like because they're regarded as a Stanley Cup Contender and as far as the Stanley Cup contenders go you're they're still a really good team I don't think anyone is yeah but the problem with the Oilers is that you know do you think the Oilers will win their division um I don't know I think it'll be them or Vegas but but but I just think that love La too if you look at the Oilers and the stars in my opinion one team has like glaring holes on it and the other doesn't but then the the counter argument is one team is McDavid and dry Sidle and one team does yeah but like that culmination hasn't worked yet you know Fair the stars have like I feel like the stars have had a little more playoff Su you mean you mean combination hasn't worked to like get all the way all the way yeah just making sure uh should we should move on in the next te my thing because we're not moving them so my canu Canucks I read one note on your knucks that I that terrified me a little bit to be honest also by the way sry someone noticed the gabrick socks it's all I this is the first time I'm noticing the you guys haven't seen him yeah there you go guys see did I win then it looked just like a piece of cloth with one of those name tags that my mom used to put on my underwear when I went to cab as a kid once I saw the sock why isn't his phone his home phone number on that some someone could hustle someone could have hustle me on Sidelines swap just got like a label maker I was but the Michaels got a label maker charge like 35 bucks for them I actually think the gavick socks had like did ended up being better in my mind when they weren't there cuz once I saw them in the video I was like theater of the mind like Co things they're rich what is this yeah all right go go watch bin boys if you have yeah uh the Vancouver kaks it's so weird because I'm so high on some of their players I think like like we said I think I had Elias pson at the highest of all of us yeah you have top 10 yeah I he's I would think of him as 10th best player in the league he's so incredible I think he is underrated in his defensive work too and but I think they're a terrible team I just don't think they're good I think they didn't really address anything from the off season they lost Bo Horvat at the trade deadline obviously the one thing that I think could kind of like save them from where I'm about to put them is if Demco and like Casey Des Smith combined to be way better than what their go end was last year but um I just I don't think they're a very good team it and I I feel for Canucks fans I mean like I'm also not a big Rick toet guy didn't like I don't think he was a good coach in Arizona um and I just I don't believe in them this year which sucks because I would love to see some of their top end talent in Quinn Hughes and pson actually get a shot to play in the playoffs and things like that but I don't know I don't I don't really see it happening especially like there's still like people still talk about like them maybe moving Garland and like he's one of your good players like I don't know what you're hoping to get in return for that other than just like about maybe a younger cheaper version of him or something but like that's not what you're going to get so I I don't really know I I don't uh have a lot of Hope for them honly I know this sounds Grim but like chat seems to agree we got a poll at 78% do you believe in the kucks this year no they're they're just they're just not good defensively their back end their back end is is terrible that might have been two people three who do they have on defense right now Quinn Hughes like Quinn Hughes Quin Hugh Tyler Myers yeah Ian Cole um Tucker Pullman ronic is ronic is solid heric actually thought good last yeah everyone was harping on them for that trade but like to get a even like getting bavil back like solid guy I know it's not like I mean Bo Horvat wasn't great with the Islanders either after so it's it's a weird trade but it's aird trade but I know he's not a B I don't think it was a terrible trade I think they did fine it was more just like but I don't think that made them better this year yeah as far as their compete I feel like them in Nashville will kind of like finish with similar records yeah funny enough when I like I said I actually was kind of like I went into wanting to rank them I wanted to be like yeah like maybe this is the year the Canucks finally do it Pon seems to like put it together and I just there's not enough there all right next I would have yeah no it was Wild Card fighter bad but not bad enough and I I don't I think you got it right this have been a negative list so we got well we got positive we got a couple good teams coming up you know what all right Vegas gold nights which I think is an interesting one great down Cup Rings by the way the how they best ever maybe best like Banner raising ever the [Music] banner the actual Banner was really cool too they do it all right got a say FS most likable franchise in the league yes he agrees definitely not definitely not agrees with that but I will say um if you have not been to a game in Vegas you got to go because it was probably the coolest like in Arena experience I've ever experienced for any sporting event in my life the sound system in T-Mobile Arena and not the you know not to sound like like like a a loser or anything but I actually went to coach what was thaten I back check I went to Coachella and me and my boys me and my boy Jared and Josh are like hey the Jets are playing against Vegas in the playoffs let's go to Vegas we drove to Vegas which was also sick I would advise everyone to do the triple JS Jess it was the craziest Jesse is recommending Vegas is a we drove through the desert I went to coella with some of the best sound systems in the world mobile Arena blew it out of the water he I know you were telling us Frank Ocean killed it no no completely done with came we got a fact check over here in the Z zone I'm starting I'm starting a new thing all together and it's Jesse unnecessarily bringing up the Jets and the counter the counter is at two so far I thought it I had you bringing them up when you talking about the Oilers and we're talking about how Vegas and the Oilers gave them a good rung you just brought the Jets up there out of nowhere oh that's the Jets could have taken Vegas to six games now we're talking about let's wait for this at the end of the division but I love also taking them to six game what did the Oilers take Vegas to wasn't it didn't Vegas winning six I got a fact I think it was it's the same thing no not they got to six you're like yeah you're like played them hard you know could have been different it's like yeah if if the Jets didn't hit the post in overtime it also would have gone to six we'd be saying the Jets played Vegas honestly guys can can I say one thing the Jets are better than the Oilers if you haven't if you haven't done it before you got to go to Vegas and see your team almost make a comeback and then rip your heart out and over dude no I saw I saw the that was I saw you saw the win you saw the win I had awful is pry awful food poisoning awful let's move on to the next let's let's get on gold where are you ranking them uh okay yeah back to it uh back to why we're here um you know what the only reason I'm gonna I'm gonna put them in in in creme de la crop and the only you've not got that right I don't even know how to say cream of the crop cream of the crop like cream of the Corn of the crop the CR delem yeah the reason why I'm putting Vegas there they could easily be at the top but I I just feel like this Colorado avalanch team is not done I feel like they've unfinished business to do they're not just winning one cup I think like this is going be a team like they're going to win at least two and especially I don't know maybe they get landeskog back by the playoffs I don't know I just feel like this team has gas left in the tank and I think that they'll beat Vegas if they play each other in the in the playoffs I love it either yeah yeah man I just want to say I'm excited for to see if like if Jack eel's back yeah man and let me say watching eel in that playoff series he has the Jets wow I was so nervous every every time he touched the puck specifically in overtime having food poisoning and then having a constant reason to crap your pants because the player on the other team is holding the puck not a good combo whoa very dangerous for your pants yes Jesse is and have of Kus he's a big fan of the brand Puma Puma Puma pants yeah oh yeah Puma pants Rock we moving on we have we had enough uh yeah it's you're up with the Kings Los Angeles Kings so this one to me is in between two categories uh because again they got a ton of depth we know they got Kopitar absolutely box office box office that's who you pay the big money to go watch two great defensive fairings as well but man the most suspect goal taking choice of all which is like what a gamble to do with a team that's pretty damn solid like so I that alone makes it hard where I'm like I actually think they could be cream of the crop like you could put them that high it's a possibility but with the go ending that they have that feels like a stretch even though they're just a solid team so I do think they kind of kind of firmly belong just below that in playoffs likely I agree with that I don't know how they watched the playoffs last year and we're just like you know what yonas corpal wasn't the answer I think it is they didn't have the money to keep Coro but yeah he wasn't the answer either though but at the same time like can't T it I don't know I also don't love their Decor why a lot of Youth yeah a lot of you well and like I I was excited to see to make it and he got sent down I was like tough where is that could change the quick yeah I hope I hope he comes back up um I think he's gross so that that changes a bit for me if if like he can come back but their fans their fans are super into Jordan Spence by the way so I don't know to me he's a great player they're so fun to watch though like up front they've got so many fun players I love fiala too Byfield playing on the top line hopefully like when he played with Kopitar that that's seemed to to spark him I I know you're not a big like a huge D again I won't say not big cuz like I feel like you also kind of reversed on that a little bit but there was a year where he he did kind of like return to Vintage Dy but last year he wasn't great again he was fine last year he was fine likewise but I like I don't know I don't think it's Mike Anderson Drew Dy and then it's G gabov and Matt Roy who again work not like gav like I know he was like a big trade deadline like worked out for them too then they got him on a good deal didn't they yeah I'm not talking money value I just don't think like when you look at I think they're in the best division in hockey and that's tough like it's just it's it's such like again you you look like two of the teams already in their division are in the cream of the crop and I think they play them well though they had two two years in a row against the O division in hockey I think so I like I don't know I think it's debatable debatable we'll see by the end uh I I I'll decide we keep there I do I yeah I do personally I feel like for for the playoffs likely category they are like the perfect team for play belong there they'll probably be in the playoffs but I don't know if they're like better than Colorado and Edmonton and and the way you're saying Colorado is changing by the hour it's getting more into the colado can I get the origin please spelling I can make a a a Colorado well you say colado I can make like a Colorado counter as well I'm more than happy to do please do because you have been saying that is it notice it [Music] get C A sorry I should not up it's okay I just the last thing I want to say about the Kings they Center depth I don't know if there's any better Center depth in the leag crazy down the middle uh Kopitar DUIs do know oh yeah I I feel like I just forgot that they had dubis he's so he's good the lazac GU is like actually pretty sick to well then yeah Quint bfield first line man let's see how he does love it I love that Z has a Quinton bfield Jersey so haven't worn it much yet have one this is the year he got stock early but and he bought it with the right jersey so was the right call is the Retro One I don't think we have to spend a whole lot of time on these next teams I I have a a question for you guys I know Z usually asks us the question can you name other than Thomas hurdle who was on the top line for the first overall favorite San Jose Shark I can well without looking a daily face off I can Gord uh Logan Couture he's hurt right now uh the answer is no I'm just by looking at it they're not going to they'll get one of them they might get one of them I don't know not get the other who's that nope who's that player that they drafted uh it's not someone they've drafted oh were you thinking of Eckland William Ecklund is on the second line here's your react it is Hoffman Philip zida I actually like the zena pickup like for for such a terrible team to just be like yeah maybe he works out for 100% we talking some power play minutes and then maybe trade him we were talking about watching college hockey sharks fans do yourself a favor watch a ton of college hockey this season because there's going to be a lot of great draft prospects from that you've got Will Smith Quinton musy that you can watch badro just got traded as a goal tending Prospect to Erie have some fun watching those guys also try and enjoy watching William Eckland and Couture and hurdle and Mario Ferraro and be happy that your team knows what they're doing and that they could be one of the worst teams in NHL history the roster looks bleak is Couture gonna go to the the Leafs I just feel like there's rumors about that it's going piss me off got pissed himself off got a random Leafs counter yeah yeah yeah that one will be a little higher than the Jets that's another Jets mention right there chock that up actually I actually changed the the title from Jesse unnecessarily bringing up the Jets counter now there's a slash slash uh random food poisoning mention and we're at six get no's getting food poisoning counter's at six right now just so you guys know imagine being in a Jets game you have food poison t- your sound system is like literally making you shake making your bowels Shake yeah it was literally making my bowels move it wasn't even my fault I'm I'm going to run it up nobody said it was your fault okay who's Ducks is that you me I don't know yeah yeah yeah is it that much you've been thinking about him huh yeah oh yeah I got him here like weirdly enough I know you're thinking first overall favorites I think that's what you guys are thinking and I'm not going to put them there I think they're bad but not bad enough really yeah I actually think they uh especially like Leo Carlson starting the year on the IR and I'm very interested to see him play because like I think he's the biggest question mark of this last draft where obviously you didn't rate him as highly as other people no no I didn't but I do think that like um maybe playing in a new system for like their entire team like that maybe just the team looks a bit different this year I would have loved if like zel wigger made the team um but overall I just I don't think the roster is as bad as it seems I think they played under their potential last year and I think again new system I think they can actually mikov too very pumped to see him yeah 100% And I still think they have a fun roster that like it's I feel like the hate has gone too far for them now that like uh can we only have one team in that bottom bottom spot but but at the same time it's like I second I know Anaheim I know anaheim's like still rebuilding but like I kind of just want to see them take a step forward a bit already so did John kingberg when he went there and randomly is now on your team yeah I will never forget how weird that contract was yeah it was bizarre for sure uh I don't think they're a good team but I do think like they're going to get some wins and like they they'll still have some fun players but I am interested to see how Leo Carlson does uh but I don't think that they're going to be in the bottom three teams in the league I was going to say I think I think they will be bottom five I think they will I could see them bottom five I don't think they'll be bottom three and bottom three is how we have that last no I I don't we don't have any real rule for the last one I just there's like another team that I think of as like just horrible two there's two teams that are just I I think I know who corin's thinking yeah all right well then if no one's arguing then next Seattle uh you know what fellas I feel like Seattle is kind of finding their finding their groove a little bit big Ron Francis guy yeah Ron Franc from day one I I heard yeah yeah his job from day one boy could I do your job better than you Ron Francis maybe still no respect just kiding uh I I feel like they should be in that same category as uh as the Kings and that they I think they're they're likely to make the playoffs although at the same time I feel like the wild are probably just as good as the Kraken too that's why I kind of feel like I want to move the wild up because I feel like the wild should be a playoff team likely but but I I I just I just feel like I was very impressed with Seattle last year I don't really see them getting worse than they were last year I don't think last year was like a fluke I feel like kind one I really believe in them I honestly think they're closer to cream of the crop than they are to Wild honestly I don't know like I I wouldn't I you know what I I I I feel like them and La should kind of be I don't feel like they should be higher than La no no I'm not saying I'm not saying move them up I'm just saying like yeah I'm saying move both their asses up no I'm kiding I'm kidding I'm kidding I'm kidding uh but yeah that's I would put them in playoffs likely but if you guys disagree and and think it's a wild card fight then you know I'm open to I'm open to discussion I mean like based on how the standings could shake out like I I really don't want to do it like that though because I feel like playoffs likely because we already obviously have three Central teams in there so OB like wild card is where they'd be fighting for but I I think they could just as easily get that third spot in the division as La would so exactly I think it's fair and it's and it's they get that third spot or they are wild card team yeah yeah I'm into it all right moving on again though we're talking best division in the league they've already got four teams in playoff likely and above tough look F we haven't we haven't we haven't done a single Easter yeah don't worry we'll get to them it's in order uh Flames then I feel like Daryl Sutter leaving is already good for 10 points oh yeah cuz like the atmosphere in there with all of their players and I get it I know what you mean it is rude cuz like he's he gets results but I know what you like they were miserable like Huber I didn't realize he literally had less than half the points he had the year before yeah half and like we knew regression was coming but like that's not like that's not normal regression that's like your situation sucks wild I will say like the Flames were like incredibly unlucky last year yeah for sure no like they're they're not as bad as well like I'm not going to put like I don't know where you would have thought I would have put them but I don't think they're as bad as last year would have suggested I don't know if I want to put them NE they could kind of be between playoffs likely and wild card spot but I feel like just because you really there's enough guys on there that have to really prove it and again they got rid of T who had the most goals for them last year um but you're a devil's guy are you into Sharon govic or not as much as I meant fully not okay OB but either way fine enough trade we'll see how that works out because he's probably gonna leave anyway score but I'm gonna put him in wild card um yeah so I agree with that just because of how good their division is honestly because like it's I just think it's yeah I would I would I'd move them down personally down them I'm not into Calgary I think they're I don't think I don't think they're that good they're okay like I I I think the solder stink is real like last year was so bad that dude they hated marrom went from like career year to like worst year of his career in a heartbeat and like they're probably somewhere play Mad on darl Suter no no I'm not but I'm just saying like everything about this game but maybe the guys in front of marom weren't playing as hard because of Suter and then that affects mar mar yeah but you you know you know what though guys Calgary is a very interesting team because last year was the first year that we saw them without kachuck and goodro yeah and then and then this year we're going into them it's like this is the first year without those guys and Suter so like we really don't know what to expect with Calgary because I see what you're saying with the wild card fight in the sense that like they have pieces that that could you know lift them into that category but man I don't know like are they a team like they're kind of a little older too like they're just I think for the for no no go ahead the only thing I was gonna say was like it'd be great for them if Shillington comes back because that obviously we don't really know what's going on there like he play it all last season who knows if he will this season that would be a huge boost for them just because like I don't think they really have another defenseman like him that great skater moves a puck like like it's I think they're missing Anderson's pretty sick but but they're different like Anderson is not comp to what Shillington offers that Team all I was all I was gonna say was on paper last year when they made all the moves I remember when we were chatting about them like you guys and especially you were actually like you thought they may have gotten better from what they had done and obviously that proved to be completely not the case and I get it hindsight whatever not holding you to that but they do have a really good team and I totally believe like if an atmosphere sucks somewhere and everyone just gets dragged down it can really kind of make you look a lot worse than you are I think Wild Card feels kind of in the Wild Card race last year too they miss the playoffs by like a couple points it wasn't like is crazy thing right like your best players not playing as good that's I I honestly like again if it wasn't for their how good their division is I would probably put them in playoffs likely like I I think they will make the playoffs and the they're like I don't know we'll see we guess but is anyone want to move them down or we I'm good with them there Zer Zone Z Zone time that's the Pacific I I think my biggest gripe here is is the Kraken being where they were I'm just not really into this team didn't buy them they they proved me wrong last year though they did they consistently did but I just don't know if they can keep that going also a take that stood that stood out Corwin said that Jake ainger is like definitively not a top five goalie in the NHL I don't think he is drag like who name five better goalies Than Jake ainger he soken guson shurin Soros the guson to prove it more though like I mean I guess he's allowed to name I'm loving the wild so I'll allow that uh yeah vasi I I like I think I could keep going honestly heluk haven't even said I don't know if I'll go gorg I think I honestly I think gorv and him are pretty similar category in my mind like I I think AER has had some great playoff performances that have boosted his status in people's minds rightfully so that that that's fair I'll give you a pass on that and then the the other two notes I got here is give you a p Oilers the Oilers are going to win the cup like M saying McDavid is eventually going to win I think we allet Z that's not what the secret Z that's not objective take a take a seat and then uh the the Jesse Jets counter is up to nine if anyone wanted to know actually a lot ler I thought I don't even remember saying the Jets to be fa though you do blank out when you're saying just a blur and as much as ie with Luka that's not as much as I thought it would be it's gone up quick two last time was two that was a sneaky seven all right next next division thank you all right we are we're starting with the Washington Capitals I've got the capitals and this is a team that I'm kind of like you Jesse with Nashville this is I feel like this is the Nashville of the East for me where this team has kind of two years left with this core that they've built the young players I was looking at their draft history aside from this year's class the last three draft classes no one has played more than six games in the NHL and then you have to go back to 2014 for a player that the capitals have drafted that has 50 career NHL points and that was Jacob vanana so they have not done a good job of drafting developing players which has left them in this situation where it's like we're just waiting for Obie to pass grety at this point and that's the only thing that I can like could this team feed him on the that's their cup could this team if they stay healthy make a wild card spot I could see it because they have some really good players still like but have they been able to stay healthy no Nicholas Backstrom is not stayed healthy TJ ooshi has not stayed healthy I like rasma sandine I like that addition a lot and I I'm happy that he's getting first pair of minutes and we'll see him on the power play he looked really good in his time in Washington last year but this is bad but not bad enough for me for sure sorry I'm just laughing again thank you for all your comments some put sharks too high honestly Shout Out J no I'm not I'm not going to screw that I was going to try to add a category that just said worst team ever but uh the I feel like the worst team ever like we always think there's going to be the worst team ever never they never live up to the hype you know they absolutely do the Sharks sometimes but like I don't every sport you're like the Arizona Cardinal is going to be the worst team ever they're they're not it's it's so sad like the Sharks were such a juggernaut forever Marlo and but hey all good things come to yeah all good things come to an end crazy am I up with the Devils yeah and Quay is just making noise honly wow here we go get out of there Devil's C favorites he did it didn't see that one coming actually no I didn't St coming fully did yeah I think the devils are unbelievable I think their roster is so good obviously the big question mark is vanich still but he was solid last year um I don't think that guarantees them anything he could easily go back to being not good uh but I just think top to bottom they're exciting to watch they're like I'm I'm so excited to watch their power plays this year between like their Center depth and just everything about their team like their third line is like poot holla and Holtz that's a that's a crazy like exciting third line like like as a leaf fan people are all excited about like mint and and nice and like man I don't know their team is I'm envious of it cuz like then you add in like they're not even starting with nemic uh on the team it sounds like but like I'd imagine he'll come up at some point this year and to have him and luk Hughes in there along with obviously a pretty good Decor already with Sean doller and Hamilton and uho yeah and John Marin like just the worst trade for the Penguins by the way like like waved Ty Smith at this point and John Marino's been great for the Devils uh especially inner division trade like wild in my mind but yeah I just I don't think they have a weakness which I know obviously technically I don't know I should say I guess they one weakness could be goldendent and that's a huge one but he was pretty good last year so um I think you have him in cup favorites okay Samuel Adams they have a traffic cone and net you s it just a funny comment yeah has anyone I don't know it's so tough I I don't know if I I'm ready to call them cup favorites I think I would say they're like creme de la crop but now you're doing on purpose there's no way that was intent um like I don't know if I'm gonna say that they're like better than Vegas right now or Coler or uh Colorado that's a pen click it's a pen click I will click this pen if you say Colorado wrong one more time that's how I say it it's like some say cold I say cold and like it's weird I don't know what it is my friends been calling me up cold cold Cola cold Colorado like Cola anyway cold are we keep are we voting on this the Devils I would vote down I would I would put them in Crim of the crop but I think that the devils are on the right path yeah and like I mean like I just I think they're a better team than the Stars I do not i' I'd vote them down personally I don't think they are either I would vote them down as well because I i' that's just I was I was in on the Stars so I feel like I can't I can't back out of the stars now but I don't think the devil's argument is wrong can there be one more than me in New Jersey against the world could there be could there one be I mean we technically could have one East and one West team in cup favorites but we've never done it like that coward I'm on Dallas then yeah all right so they've moved down so is this is this my turn yeah penguins we got a little pre them last night or I know this this is an interesting one because really interesting one yeah like dubis comes in kind of you see what he's trying to do he's trying to get that bottom six a little better you trying to just soak every last drop out of those last Prime Crosby right like everyone's saying Crosby could be Nom nominated for the Heart by the end of the year he's going to have an amazing season all the stuff which just don't like they're still they're still they're good I just don't like I'm not prepared to call them cream of the crop I don't even so you're you're going to put them in playoffs likely I don't know it's like I feel like they're going to be in a in a wild card fight if if I if I had to guess you're putting even lower oranges I I I I just think that they're they're in a pretty strong Division and um as much as I I absolutely love you guys know I love cdy Crosby and vary to like Malin but I still feel like is their D necessarily good enough are they gonna get good good enough goal tending all year like I'm not I'm not a hater on jari by any means but he needs to stay healthy who's their backup now it's not the Smith it's not Smith one of those goals last thing I know they got to be polite on the broadcast oh just squeaks right by him you should have been like yeah that should have been your glove buddy they got Riley Smith too and and very happy for Jansen Harkin making uh Jansen Harkin is being that team by the way he also made one of the worst passes in preseason that I saw that like I feel like he like never mind but it was just an irrelevant thing I just remember when it was guy I guess they got Carlson too but then I still think like defensively are they that that good on the back end I I I I feel like like I think you got him in the perfect spot completely agree with you I know I I was I was shocked you were putting them in playoff likely like I thought that was high I was like they didn't even make the playoff last year and obviously yeah they had Carlson they got a little bit better but I still think I'm I'm with you I think they're yep scrapping it out there yeah yeah they'll they'll scrap up but like it's just yeah I don't know I'm with you they they definitely are a better roster than they were last year but how much better is that than they were last year I don't know yeah uh I'll make mine quick I got the Philadelphia Flyers similar to the sharks at least they know what they are they are going for that bottom uh you can go ahead and just plunk them right at the bottom the only that's really notable about them for the rest of year I get it they have like coutou back and Cam Atkinson but like okay they they still will be easily one of the worst teams in the league it's it's mov watch and man him getting loaned out scoring against his old team and celebrating that hard hilarious so more of those clips and that's all you should care about this year as the Flyers fans yeah I also saw a really funny like awkward video from him where he like posted a video where he like Chucks the basketball backwards like behind kind of thing I don't know it's a funny video If you haven't seen it like go go check out his Instagram it's like it's just very awkward but like fun it's wholesome yeah yeah they're a horrible team meech cob I think it was Dr candy won't say the rest of name meech cob waiting room that is correct for the title of them yeah pretty much what do you do with kkny if you're the Flyers cuz I think he's got like hot TR him well does he have to hit a hot streak like I feel like kkny is a good enough player that you can you you kind of know what you're getting in a connect well you you'll trade for him at the deadline so yeah you probably just still want as much value so yeah I think I think he has two years left on his deal though but the thing is is that he it's just like another team I feel could use conc me more than Philly obviously imagine how much they could get for C if he returns the form and if he will yeah but that's pretty bad's obviously an incredible player but yeah it's an injury that he definitely got to yeah prove that you got your form still the Rangers I think it's you actually I have the Rangers no I don't have the Rangers yeah I don't know so cuz Philly seemed to be out of order somehow oh okay or like they they were down here but you just don't want to hear from me twice and row you can go to another team no no go rangers um let's talk let's talk Rangers that's another one where like coaching change alone I'm not going to say it's the same as the Sutter thing will be like 10-point jump because you know this is a coach that didn't work but like with laviolet and again their fans seem pretty down on themselves but I don't know if that's like a just a New York thing uh I I just have them in playoffs likely I'm not going to it's weird I want to say that they're cream of the crop because they have so many good pieces like again arguably top three defenseman in the game definitely top three goalie if not best depending on whatever night month that he's having they have enough depth that I you could put them cream with the crop ah so I don't want a fence sit so screw that I'm going cream with the crop I'm doing it I think by the end of it I think they'll belong there but heading in I get why you'd have reservations but I'm going to plunk them and I think that in the end they'll they'll prove to be a very solid team if lafrenier and and kako like don't take a step forward he's getting for his line minutes I was gonna say it looks like laviolet is actually giving both a chance to play some meaningful minutes and and hopefully live up to those draft statuses but you're right I I feel like they season kind of hinges on the development of those two someone said low cream tier and that sounds oh no no no no comment no comment you're dead buddy I would personally maybe even stick the Rangers in playoffs likely yeah like when you look at the teams around them which someone had pointed out I think it was Zed be there like that does feel a little ambitious I like my only good roster yeah like I do I actually agree with you that I think they're really good but I I think they're very comparable to La that I think they're a really good team but division is really good yeah yeah no that's not a bad shout but just to be not a fence sitter I I would still keep them where I had them but I'd vote them to playoffs likely personally yeah I think I would too I think out of the yeah just to feel like balance out the tier list a little more yeah yeah because I've got the canes just stick them into cream of the crop but I feel like I got both Stanley Cup favorites as far as the odds go with the Oilers and canes and a lot of people's popular picks you're an alltime Cane's hater yeah kind of like I I've I've got this reputation as a Cane's hater where it's it's not that I'm a Cane's hater it's more just like I I don't think this team currently constructed gets over over the hump and wins a stand the cup because I just don't think they have the star power to do it but don't like I mean CU like they're a cup favorite with a lot of people like they are that's a popular pick they are and is anyone going to vouch for them they scored under three goals in almost half of their playoff games last year like I get it AO is a really really good player we're talking a really really good player though that like flirts with a point per game every year like he's not an 100o guy spetch nikov is not proven to be a consistent 30 goal scorer I know he got hurt last year but his averages were still they would have been just right on 30 goals right on 70 points like they have the most depth in the league the style of play they have can absolutely win the a Stanley Cup because we've seen teams that are just loaded with depth like Vegas is a great example last year where it's just depth everywhere like not one guy is just the Superstar scorer the blues did it when they won it as well um they've got a great defensive system like slaven is obviously underrated when we talk about best defenseman in the league because he doesn't put up points but I I just don't think they have enough up front and they haven't done anything to add it like Michael bunting isn't that guy cor does bunting get the cup first when they win or do you think bar usually definitely not I think he's pretty low on the rankings I think he goes look at those pairings though yeah it's pretty nasty that's nasty they're really good don't get me wrong SL Burns Shay uh peshi orov D'Angelo having orov as your third line Lefty is crazy yeah embarrassment riches I really do think of them pretty much as like the Vegas of the East yeah yeah but they just like also have not been able to get it done in the playoffs so I understand why they're not necessarily the cup favorite I feel people are pointing out too they they haven't won a conference final game since 06 like they've been swept in both the Conference Finals of the brandamore era which I mean unlucky for sure but it's like something there yeah like I I just I know they're such a good team I I agree I'm probably not putting them Stanley Cup favorites just more Honestly though more just because I find them boring but like speaking of boring if you don't mind yeah sorry that's a good seg great segue as Joe Buck once said I almost pulled a hamstring trying to segue with that one uh not at all it was actually very easy uh but uh you know what honestly when I think of teams that I just don't like in the league Islanders are definitely one of them I just I'm just not into them shoot off here we go wants to pump them from I'm rewatching Entourage right now I know E from Entourage loves the Islanders I don't his name ER Eric uh conell uh no that's Kevin oconnell Kevin oconnell but his name in the show is Eric Murphy I was thinking he more real life name but yeah um I'm gonna put him in you're gonna put him sorry yeah him and where does he rank on on the Entourage tier list where's he at the show as on Entourage as a show top favorite e who's one of the cheaper characters in the show and his team is cheap I'd probably stick them in I just know they're going to be fighting for wild card spot and it pisses me off so stick them there but I just think that they're not gonna make it and I I just don't care for them I completely age probably even though they're not the worst team in that division the last team you'd think of in the Metro even watch a game I kind of have like yeah like like I feel like them and the Bruins are duking out for that uh last wild card spot there o interesting little preview there of the Bruins okay is that our next team also I will say like they're for sure they're always going to be in it because their Decor is so good and soken and soken yeah like you're just they're going to win games and in the most frustrating way possible they're going to win games but they're holy crap be cool if if Horvat and barzal could actually like put some chemistry together and actually bring back some of the magic that barzel has again Barelle has scored more than 20 goals once in his career nuts a rookie a rook that is an insane stat nuts Brock Nelson though the TRU that's that's who it's all about you buying a brock Nelson Jersey um okay we'll wrap up this division I've got the lightning yeah that's that different division my friend oh no that isn't oh you're right ah hey here we go that means it's time for the it's time for the Zer Zone quick fact check on that barzel that checks out way to go there would have I got something right um want the Jets count at you there you Oh I thought you were you asking you know what honestly not a whole lot to report from the Zer Zone after this division Jets count stays at nine J Jessie was on good behavior you know there you go to go go don't leave Z hanging was going to fish you I fish um Jesse was asking for the the Penguins backup goalie that's Alex n delovic there his stock was high and went right down y we aren't done the division yet Columbus it's out of order oh yes Columbus how could we forget stay thank you to all the comments R ducky everyone everyone that's commenting who has them look at this I think I have them can I see your phone sorry to interrupt the Zager Zone I feel bad now why okay it's all good I'll be here all day Jesus wow who's got Columbus z i gotus that was dark okay they're a team I'm like kind of high on but I just don't know if it's enough like I kind of think of them almost similar to the coyotes but like better but again like certain things that I kind of would have hoped for them as like oh hopefully this is kind of what helps put them over the edge this year is not looking that great in training camp like basically like like Kent Johnson they're like healthy scratching them it looks like which is insane to me like that for a team that's up and coming and trying to take that next step to take one of your highest upside guys and potentially put him in the Press Box is wild um send in a message sure but where's where's Fant Tilly playing this guy is an is that's the other thing he's playing third line Center which I don't love like uh like I think it's him marchenko and uh actually I think I have it here Jenner and no and Danforth and then so the Oh I thought talking about Jenners sorry no no Jenner what they have is like gender like you could technically just say that's the second line like their second and third line are pretty interchangeable in my mind and one of the crazier things I don't know if you guys saw this but they're experimenting with L at Center they are playing L at Center and he was very good in the preseason at Center and I think some people are forgetting Patrick l has been almost a point per game player the last two seasons I think some people are forget defit I I actually think some people are forgetting that that's definitely getting fact what team was he drafted by uh he's ready with the pen I'm ready man I'm ready I'm just trying to get that Jaz count into double the new Atlanta Thrashers there it is New New Atlanta thisy very sharp we'll see about that but it's weird I I like their team the Arizona Atlanta Thrashers yeah the Atlanta Jets uh but I don't know I mean like they got to be bad but not good enough but I fun but good they fun but bad they are so fun I'm going to watch a lot of Blue Jackets games for sure cuz like one I mean firing your coach in the preseason might mean you're just a disaster structurally so maybe that'll be like fun chaos and also they just have a lot of fun players coming up so Mike Babcock sucks I'm sorry yeah put him in is there a tier for him the crumbs of the crop yeah the crumbs of the crop I think he's below that some yeah if I could put the crumbs down here maybe yeah at the bottom I'm poting to the bottom of the tier list Los good on Columbus for yep for aing him it was that guy's just living on another planet anyways next teams ATL no I was say Atlantic Atlantic Tampa Bay Lightning yeah you saved you there someone say the lightning I just it just I just get like these like Shivers I can't explain really there's just like just like just like for the past years like you think of like the lightning they're just so good I know they're still going to be good I mean we saw it last night they they're still pretty good at hockey butov is so good kov is amazing I I think obviously the biggest worry is how they're going to do with vasileski out I've seen the yonas yanson experience up close in Colorado and it it's not a good one they uh Tamp at times last night looked like it was it was desperation mode to block any shot from going to the net but I don't know have you guys ever played beer league or any hockey you play harder with like a terrible goal yeah you you the team is together like you are laying out for each other nothing's getting by you I've been a terrible goalie in one of those scenarios and the amount of pep talks you get you're like man they really think I'm bad so all that to say playoffs likely because I and again this is not a doubt of Tampa um but I think looking at their roster it's a little less deep than it has been in years past especially step back last year so they did first round exit consistent with that that's that category exactly um but yeah defensively specifically like it's headman sergachev but um radish and preix are are playing top four minutes and these are kind of career age radish specifically career AHL guy that he's look great not saying that he's not a good player but um their depth and even up front too like no Pat now no color um Celli has never been a point producer he's playing the second line so he's going to have to produce a little more I think for them which is a role he hasn't really had to play in his career yet um Hegel looks great still I feel like uh my Hegel takes have aged horribly so playoffs playoffs likely there we go I yeah I agree I don't know if anybody else yeah no well yeah like I feel like they'll be like they'll be in those top three teams in the Atlantic but not necess they w't yeah like it's just weird to think you think of like COV stamp coach all these guys like you're like oh my God the lighting are amazing but it's like yeah they did lose all these guys yeah they've lost guys so the price of winning yep exactly and you'd pay it to win they oh every time they would pay it they paid lots of money last off season right yeah they locked up sergachev Celli and chernack as well and now the stam coach chatter oh yeah going yeah it was pretty nuts would not have expect that from him he's a guy uh I mean so this is an interesting one who is the next one Toronto m is this guy going to do the thing no see my my thing is I wouldn't have them as cup favorites but I think they're better than Dallas so I will put them there because I I think New Jersey is better than Toronto but I think Toronto is better than Dallas so I'll put him there I'm I'm going to start this conversation you think they're better than the why do you think Toronto is better than Dallas no I don't we're going to have a vote by the way I think I think the aves I would take these I would take the aves I think the AVS Oilers golden knights and devils and maybe hurricanes are better than the leaves I think every team we have in cream of the crop is better than the Stars agree but I don't know if that's justification to stick them in cup favorites maybe you stick them in cream of the crop and then yeah I mean we're going to vote them down to cream of the crop I'm just trying to get the stars out of that's all get your we get it okay so we'll vote him down to cream of the crop well no let me make my argument for the leaves being better than the Stars also oh yeah and just make it clear because the chat thinks we hate the Stars we don't I think it's Corin who's lower on the Stars Corin is the guy who's low the rest of us kept it where it was we like the stars in their team I actually like some of their players I just don't think they should be cup favorites so why are the Leafs better than the Stars I'm curious I think uh by the end of the year their our Top Line will be better than their top line which is so much of the strength of that team is the fact that they have that Robertson hints vski line and I think berzi Matthews Marner is going to be a better line than that uh I think that like heis skinin is the Difference Maker there I think heis skinin is like because you're missing like a number one D guy yes but and and to be honest you don't in the goalie part they beat you there too so not really yeah they do do they yeah did ainger have better numbers than samsonov last year yes pulled up well wait let's go to the secret zone I'm pulling this up here we go samsonov stats from last season might need someone to get a hinger over here samsonov I'm certain to think it's not a book he typing you want to hear his Playoff stats no I don't I want to hear why the playoffs not mattered stay the playoff stats too okay both let's go with the playoff stats nine games four wins 3.13 goals against don't don't give me goals against are you really suggesting like between the two goalies based on numbers you would really take your goalie over a no I wouldn't but I don't think there's that much of a difference he got he had an last year to 235 goals against and a 919 save percentage which I think is almost the exact same as Samson off 919 save two three3 goals against you're but again would you take him over him I think there who if you were just I wouldn't because he's young and I think like there's more stats I I I got Samson now 313 goals 898 save Luka you have you have ainger there H that's ugly man I'll pull up ainger you want a goalie that's going to get it done for you in the playoffs too and you pointed to a COR like Andre has a couple playoff performances that has glorified him but it's like isn't that what you want in your goalie like step up in the playoffs when it matters yeah but what about when he puts up stinker series to I will say I will say too AER definitely played more games than Samson as well yeah that's fine but like I I just don't again all I'm saying is like you guys are acting like ainger is this differen maker guy that's going to steal them games over what samsonov will and I don't really see it and especially because a lot of contempt could happen I also think that Joseph wall will be the starter by the end of the year for the Leafs and I think he's gonna be great he's a very nice guy and he is a good goalie and it' be nice but they still win that category yeah you're probably right there but but I think after all that you're probably right there I think defensively too the stars are kind of Head and Shoulders better I'd say I wouldn't say Head and Shoulders like Hein is for sure still really solid Asel andal is good Thomas Harley's good but I think you can say people are good like I I think Beyond like he skin is great I just think the Leafs forward depth I I would take over the Stars which I know some people are going to disagree with but I just think I think Matthews will return to form this year I think he'll come back healthy and I just think he's a better so where are we voting here guys I mean I know you guys are going to move the leaf I think it's it's still the appropriate spot for them like Leafs are a really good team it's not like crazy to say like oh like cuz then they're they're stacked enough where it's like it could make a final absolutely no I'm just hating on the Stars like yeah no I know yeah yeah yeah I think if you took any of those top seven teams that we had and stuck them in cup favorites I think you can make an argument for all of them for for sure that's what makes it so hard no I think I think the stars are actually one of the like they belong they they definitely you could definitely make an argument for the Stars they have a very good team you can't do it move on to the next who's got the Bruins gots I you the Bruins um Bruins uh uh this is I don't know what that was this is a very interesting one um obviously they've lost some great players you know what though like I I just still feel like the Bruins are gonna their centers are not good but I just still feel like they're going to find a way to make the playoffs I guess we could put them in wild card fight um but like I still feel like that playoffs likely category I feel like they still have some very good pieces on that team that'll get them to where they need to be and they've got good goalies I'd be fine with seeing them in playoffs likely but I feel you guys are going to want wild card fight choose your category don't CP out choose your category um you know what I'm gonna do I'm gonna do wild card fight I guess I feel like but I but I do feel like they will make a wild card spot i' keep them there I got no arguments with that yeah I pretty much have them battling today with the Islanders as I know I already said that but like I I think like those are the two teams that I have and I know people feel like well I don't know I won't get ahead of it but those are the two teams that I think are going to be battling it out for that final wild card spot which so I think you did that perfect what what about Pittsburgh uh like they'll be they are is but I think Islanders and brons ahead of them yeah sa they're gonna be a team to watch this year for sure all right the Sabers I mean like look the hype on them it's very nice that it's it's very high no no don't wor I got it's very nice that the hype on them is is very highy people are very excited because they're just fun to watch period yep um and again the top six electric just fun to watch but also just like deep uh the fact Zack Benson by the way you got to obviously watch a ton of him Mak the team probably going to get decent minutes too cuz like everything they're saying about him is like just does everything the right did make it he's hurt right now I think he's should got a him and Jack Quinn are hurt but like it just goes to show they've got so much talent qu Quinn will be out until like all the way ke thing which is pretty awful but either way uh they still have depth and they scored a ton of goals I didn't even realize that last year they were top five in five on five goals like they they're good they're really good and again I believe in Levy and I definitely love what they have defensively um it'd be cool to see Owen power even step it up another level in denene I know maybe some of you guys might even pick him for a little cheeky Norris pick I love it um and yet like they still ship a ton of goals and they still are pretty young and I feel like they're hovering with that hype between like a playoffs likely and a wild card fight that's probably where like most people who are being reasonable that's probably where their conversation goes and if their season just goes awful then sure they couldn't make the play but that's anyone I'm putting say it I'm doing it and I'm putting on playoffs likely yeah let's go I love it I'm in same I I have no argument yeah I'd you know you'd love to see I love their forwards top to bottom their forward group is so much fun I think the one guy that like doesn't get T so first of all we talked about box office a couple seasons ago and we always like joke about it now Tage Thompson I think is unquestionably the most box office player in the NHL because every goal he scores is like he kind of he's so big the only thing the only athlete that I can think of when I think of him is like it kind of reminds me of like a hen thing where like when someone who's that size doing what like again on offensive side of things you're just like how is this possible and it looks way cooler when someone's just an absolute giraff Kevin Durant yeah you're just like what exactly imagine there was now like a new wave of like 686 guys that came in and we just had nasty that would be so cool but also Dylan cousins I think I was going to bring him up too so good the Workhorse from White Horse and he I feel like he kind of goes under the radar sometimes like even great deal for him man seriously yeah so I I love the Sabers I love that you put them there I I uh I'm very ey on them I'm into them it it'd be cool to see and I hope you guys are right I'm very into the Sabers too but doesn't sound that know there's just some question marks on the team they got to prove in the net like if it doesn't work out we would like Levy I will say an average of like there are an average year-over-year of like four new playoff teams every year and like looking at our list we don't really have that many kind of new ones in the playoffs likely and above category Buffalo is the first one that didn't make it last year that is in the playoffs likely or above so we have we have a couple in the wild card fight but like year-over-year there are teams that just don't make it so they're they're a good bet it's like a huge might be another one coming up it is a question mark for who knows Ottawa Senators know Ottawa Senators I've got Ottawa I'm I'm having a hard time being as excited about them as Buffalo just because of the pinto and the Norris uncertainty yeah well sounds like Pinto is getting in now because of uh like I I don't remember who's there was something about an injury that has allowed them to like pretty much fit him in now I thought having I thought I thought he's having like there's some contract issues yeah they haven't signed him yet like at the at the time of this like or at least that I haven't seen we can get our F checker on it yeah I know has has it been signed has it been signed um which it's a top six guy um and then Josh Norris like we don't know when he's going to play which is the one and it sounds like the inju is kind of just like like I think uh their their head coach was talking about and he was just like I'm waiting for the trainers to give me the go ahead that he's good to go and it's like and he like comes over for practice and skates with them and stuff he's like he's skating full speed like he's but I feel so bad for him I do too because he's aw awesome guy but just an even better player yeah you guys like have met they went and media day and like like chatted with love him um and just looking at their pieces like I love studa he's he's like a 40 goal 100 Point guy this year I think um Jake Sanderson shabat like love those two their top six You could argue is one of the best top sixes in hockey without Josh Norris that second Center Spot is yeah it's like Ridley Greg playing it right now which it that looks a little different than when Josh Norris is playing it and so I I if they were healthy I'd put him in playoffs likely but I'm going to put him in wild card fight also someone made a point that I completely glossed over because of Eric Johnson's age but yeah Sabers have three first overall defenseman they do Eric Johnson buddy Eric Johnson yeah they do have an insane top n like I'm I cheran is is on D as well like I I love this team I just feel better about them if I knew that they'd be healthy with Josh Norris yeah and like I I don't know like even bson I know I I was big on bson for a long time he did not do enough last year I felt like but love the tereno signing like that you're not expecting him to be playing third line I know which is like a little weird too in itself but like it's great depth I like that they bought into Matthew Joseph after like there was like rumors that they might try and move him he's a really good player too yeah there's a weird weird rumor there but I just like I I like Buffalo's collection of players I think a little more than I do otta was which is the I and I agree with you on the injury thing like I think if Josh Norris is there that changes all right all right next team Florida I think that's you oh uh Florida let me see where I had them in my playoff thing yeah I G to go playoffs likely I just think uh they're just a good team like I know they have some pretty serious injuries with like Montour and eblad out for a little while um Sam Bennett's I know starting the year hurt but like in in terms of how I picture the Atlantic going I think it's going to go Leafs lightning Panthers Sabers and I I just think they're a really good team I know like I feel like people are starting to like kind of pick them to not make oh I guess wait are you guys shocked I didn't put them in cream of the crop no I was going to suggest wild card fight I me yeah that that feels a little nuts to me they just made it in last year though heal like they made it in by one point that that doesn't surprise me just cuz like you were the the highest on kachuck when we did our top 25 players and I've definitely heard you guys just slamming the Panthers for last couple of weeks as far as like where you think they'll regret we're not slamming but like the the injuries are a concern mour Montour and eblad being out for like who knows when like the timeline is November to January anywhere in between then those are two of your best defensemen yeah and brought and like a we so number bosski no is p sold on bosi this standing in secet zone for like 20 minutes waiting to get a weird in number one cop on the force of course I'm sold on Bron come on what do you think we're doing over here we're not sold on he should be sold on him all that matters is if you've done well in the playoffs one time twice he did he AER was still good in many games last year he had yeah I get it there's games where he didn't do well all that matters is if you had a good series he did in the wild one he had back yeah okay so you gotta have a bu plural are we moving Florida down no no like I look I look roster wise I'm like I think the I think the SS are better than the Panthers right now in terms of their roster I think they're underrating some of Florida's players like again like you had barov in top 25 so barov and kachak on two different lines there with like Veri who's just ver to be a horse um when Sam Bennett comes back he's been great for them I think like who else have we got they got Evan Rodriguez in the off season which I think was a great pickup they've got londell Reinhardt um they they have a very good team still like I I don't I personally still think they'll be fine I don't think again like I don't think they're going to be near the president Trophy and I think they'll be closer to Buffalo than they will be to lightning but I still think they come third in that division do we have them ranked by the way in the way that they appear in in like playoffs likely for example no no we can yeah okay anyways that would be cuz to be fair again like cuz when you stare at them all at the same time that's when you're like oh okay this looks weirder like the Sabers believe in them a lot but like that's a pretty good group next to theuts and the lightning nuts it's optimistic to say the least anyways but hey we're here for fun got to make some bold calls we're here for fun who's got Detroit I got Detroit um you know what Detroit made a ton of offseason moves and they definitely are better than they were last year I'm not going to say they're playoff likely but I do think that they'll be in a fight for wild card spot like I I I I do think that their roster is a lot better than it was last year um but I like they're still kind of middle of the middle of the pack for me yeah I agree like I M yeah than yeah I think they're a little worse than the Senators yeah iser retirement plan is a crazy all right Jesse goes we got we're going back to the Zer stone for this last one yeah so yeah we have the Habs left and we have a resident ABS fan I am I am going to take care of the ABS um just put them where they belong sounds so sad I think this is one of the easiest teams to rank I think they're in the bad but not bad enough um I'm I'm kind of in to the future of the core but I just think I need to see a lot more they got like 10 players uh below the age of 23 this year so they are going to be a young team there's going to be a lot of growing pains but I just think they're still like miles and miles behind like the best teams in the East and it's it's like the teams we have like we talking about the Sabers how loaded they are and we're not 100% sure that they're going to make the playoffs the Habs got a long way to go I don't think they'll be bad enough to to have a top pick though they're kind of in in no man's land right now how about the callfield you said what was your overrun under on the goals I I think he's listed at like 32 and a half I think I think he's going to score 45 goals this year maybe even 50 okay he's got 48 goals in in the 84 games since St Louis taken over I think he's one of the best scorers in the NHL I think his contract was a bargain um but after that it's just like there's there's nobody really else that's going to push the offense forward we we removed a category called fun but bad because of how terribly confusing it was for not only us ranking it but also the people watching to be like why they're bad are they really that fun yeah and then but like they do feel like a team in that way where like they've got some fun pieces you'll probably enjoy watching them but like yeah they're not doing anything yeah and I mean the Jessie Jets counter unfortunately ends at nine as well wow never hit double digit hit double digies yeah I'm I've grown guys here to go man I've grown proud of you I've grown thank you he didn't even dead oh he did I was waiting yeah uh that's our list does anybody I don't have yeah like what know I do have one massive one I guess are we doing the last second voting like I mean we I mean did you rank it did you do what you needed to do it's fine anyways I would love to get the Abes in or the Oilers yeah I know you definitely don't want you don't want the stars and Cup's favorites anyone but the stars and cup favorites yeah every every year I got a hate one team I mean I'd vote for the ABS because I'm an ABS fan but and but you didn't put them there I didn't put them there because I I just feel like the stars are really deep yeah I'm not going to be like heartbroken if you guys don't have the stars there but that's yeah I don't either uh you look I like the ABS they're kind of my team that I'd stick in the top sounds like Cory look agree he's gonna have he's say he's got gets to decide then because it's no that's three I don't know how I I got this un you wouldn't put them there the have yeah God I'm going to stick with I didn't place them there at the beginning so it's 2v2 is up to up to between the stars and the Avalanche stars and the AVS I I'm into the ceiling of the stars but I I think if if you're going to have multiple teams like Vegas just won the cup like they've proven as well but I'm not going to throw another team in there between no no we're not we're not throwing another team we're looking to move Dallas down and I'm keeping the stars at top if it's if it's between the two of them I'm I'm more into the ceiling of the Stars than than I am with the Avalanche plus like I mean Landis scog is like such a big piece that uncertainty is kind of scaring me with the scares the crap out of me as an Aban they got a lot of new pieces where I think the stars are more so like coming into their own as a team um like Robertson just going to get better he skin in one of the best defens in the league and I know Corwin thinks Jake ainger is like a beer league level goalie but like going he's pretty amazing so I give me the start I get you being like cuz you don't like goalies whatever and I get that you're saying he's being overhype but like he seems like you really aren't into him it's not I think he's average I think he's an average goalie in the NHL which is an incredible feat for any ath I'm not saying he's like I'm saying yeah word for word beer league goalie you said that I have it written I have it on my beer league e division team he's like I'm G honestly I wouldn't because I know he wouldn't show up and I know Vince has one of the greatest attendance records in beer league history so I would not replace him for Jake jok Corin would be out there giving pep talks to Jake Ander be like buddy like don't worry we trust you out here I would not trust so there are there are 15 better goalies than Andre I didn't say 15 if he's average middle of the pack right yeah no smack dab in the middle average is probably between like six and 25 that is like the most insane range average almost 20 way have but anyways like there's not I've always said this there's not much of a separation between speaking of the best in every category cuz we got to wrap this up uh we got our Awards though and we know we have our little cheeky picks and see who we we have uh for winning the biggest Awards on the year who wants to start us out I'll start sure Luca is gonna start us out okay okay Luca in the order uh what we starting you know why don't we go ahead and start with Norris kale marar he's healthy he's going to be back on that Norris Crown um I'm I honestly think like he can score 30 goals and get 100 points and do what Eric Carlson did last year if he is a fully healthy season okay uh why don't you go ahead and solve our vzna debate oh wow okay we're just going to go one by one um this one's a wild one gorv because I think the ABS are going to be really good so I I think he was really really good last year he's going to play the majority of the games he'll have some good stats okay uh let's go Calder Logan [ __ ] I'm all in on someone not vard and if it's not vard then it's [ __ ] okay uh Art Ross McDavid yeah Ma or rocket I said Matthews Matthew wow rename the trophy rename the trophy I'm going to go kill the thrill I think he's going to score a ton of goals this year fun pick and Hart Hart Jack Hughes because I think the devils are going to win the president's Trophy and he is going to have like a 100 plus points and just be unbelievable NHL would love that if that happened yep uh okay Corwin your turn uh Norris Doan okay oh juston I don't know I I think he's amazing I think he'll uh he was already almost at a point per game last year I think he is the silkiest defenseman in the league and uh I just think if this if the Sabers take a step forward I think he's a big part of that I think their power play goes up another notch this year he racks up more points and uh just he was my second he was my second pick for nor vzna vzna I don't even know if this word Matters from you oh SRO balamaki yeah uh no I I I've always said the top goalies are the top goalies everyone else cares oh lady Bing would have been fun without that bir Calder Calder but art the S uh Art Ross uh McDavid and then hard McDavid too just and Rocket uh rocket Matthews okay Jesse you're turn noris kale Mar okay yeah oh yeah man uh vzna uh uh I'm going with Jake Andre that my pick no way really it was I swear [ __ ] I feel like I feel like Dallas is yeah Dallas would be a great team and I do think he's a great goalie and he's got good decoor in front of him and the stars are the stars are aligning nice honestly the Stars glazing is crazy Norris oh yeah uh Norris uh did I Norris oh sorry uh cder Calder uh Carter I'm going with Conor Bard because he's the man okay uh Art Ross uh Conor mcjesus rocket car M Jesus and heart car M Jesus uh and then for me then I'll just go Norris going to high skin in which perhaps cor is gonna hate the right now more of those um then VZ I'm going AER I had that in there before as well that's crazy uh CER I'm going Bedard this just like the fun pick I hope it does just happen Art Ross McDavid Hart McDavid and Rocket because I slipped on it I went Matthews yeah uh that's everything that's all our picks for how we think everyone's going to do Awards and teams make sure to clip some of these when we you really want to come back there was one year where actually wasn't it Dallas that clipped you in a video I found out how that happen like game day the irony of that now for sure hope clip this then we're all in on you D they have a great social are not no we can agree their social team is great yeah one of the best and they're in Arena there's a person who used to work for T there's a person who used to work for TSN who like helps them with like their works for them like their production and so I think he looks for TSN stuff and it just happened to one of the things he came across like this boy doubting them anyways here here's some clips the star I guarantee the Stars will not win the Stanley Cup this year give him a clip Jake ainger might lose his job that's a well there a great way to end this like stars who is the backup now give some Cliff give Jason Robertson is going to win the heart he's goingon to score 70 and he's gonna get 130 points um Joe Pavel is gonna win his first Stanley Cup yeah wow I like that onece and awesome yeah and he's also just amazing he's the man and he looks like Sam yeah hey Sam get in the secret Zone yeah I wouldn't be surprised if AER punched Corwin in the face I'll box Jake's Jake officer box I feel we got I know we're adding it at the end but all the comments are saying like how do you not have like more teams there's only one cup favorite so that's why there's only one cup favorite like that's why New Jersey is not on that level it would be cowardly to do anything else exactly so that's why I I saw a lot of those comments so just wanted to address that that's why we don't have multiple teams in there thank you to everyone in the live chat by the way too fun hanging out and Shout out again I think acc's long gone noticed I had an a western New York Skate Shop New Shout Out season the official skate shop Mar podcast yeah bye later

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Length: 108min 50sec (6530 seconds)

Published: Wed Oct 11 2023