Putin Is 'Losing The Propaganda War' In Russia Says State Dept. Spokesperson

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>>> I THINK THE TERRIBLE >>> I THINK THE TERRIBLE EXPECTATION IS THAT THE SUFFERING WE HAVE SEEN IS LIKELY TO GET WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER FOR AS LONG AS RUSSIA PURSUES THESE METHODS. >> SECRETARY OF STATE BLINKEN TODAY WARNING OF WORSE DAYS IN UKRAINE. BASED ON THE RUSSIAN TACTICS AND INVASION. THAT WAS IN BRUSSELS TODAY AT AN EMERGENCY MEETING OF THE NATO ALLIANCE. PART OF WHAT HAS BEEN AN ALL HANDS ON DECK DIPLOMATIC PUSH BY THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION LARGELY. NEXT WEEK VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS WILL HEAD TO EASTERN EUROPE WITH A VISIT TO POLAND AND ROMANIA. JOINING US IS NED PRICE. WHAT'S THE LATEST AND WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD THERE? >> WE ARE IN BRUSSELS FOR A VERY SIMPLE REASON. THIS IS THE EPICENTER OF OUR DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS TO DO TWO THINGS. TO SUPPORT THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE AS THEY TAKE ON THESE INVADING FORCES WITH DIGNITY, WITH COURAGE, WITH BRAVERY WHY TWO, TO IMPOSE THE MASSIVE COSTS AND SWIFT COSTS THAT WE TOGETHER WITH OUR ALLIES AND PARTNERS PROMISED BEFORE THIS INVASION. THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES LIKES TO SAY THAT BIG NATIONS DON'T BLUFF. VLADIMIR PUTIN HAS LEARNED THAT THE UNITED STATES WAS NOT BLUFFING. ALLIES AND PARTNERS WERE NOT BLUFFING. ORR TODAY WE HAVE MET WITH THE ALLIES AND 27 MEMBERS OF THE EUROPEAN UNION. WE HAVE MET WITH THE G7 AND IN WE HAVE MET WITH THE G7 AND IN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE FORUM WE HEARD UNANIMITY THAT THEY ARE RESOF RESOLVED TO CONTINUE THE SUPPORT AND MOUNT THE PRESSURE ON VLADIMIR PUTIN. >> WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MICHAEL CROWLEY. COVERS YOUR BOSS. ABOUT WHERE WE ARE. IF YOU CAN GO TO TEN ARE WE AT EIGHT, EIGHT AND A HALF? WHAT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE BETWEEN EIGHT AND TEN IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT ASSESS. ? CAN YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT? >> LET ME TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE ARE PROVIDING DEFENSIVE SUPPORT. WE HAVE PROVIDED MORE THAN A BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF SECURITY ASSISTANCE TO THE PARTNERS OVER THE PAST YEAR. NOW ANOTHER $350 MILLION WORTH OF SECURITY ASSISTANCE. IT IS ANTI-ARMOR, ANTI-TANK, SMALL ARMS, MUNITIONS. WHAT THE UKRAINIAN PARTNERS NEED TO DEFEND THEMSELVES, TO TAKE ON THIS INVADING RUSSIAN FORCE. AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE SPENT DOWN A LOT OF THAT, $350 MILLION IN FACT LAST SEVERAL DAYS PROVIDING MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF SECURITY ASSISTANCE EACH DAY AND TODAY SUB MITTED A REQUEST TO CONGRESS FOR ANOTHER $10 BILLION AND PART FOR ADDITIONAL SECURITY ASSISTANCE. WE ALSO HAVE MOUNTED THE PROFOUND COSTS ON THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION, THE ECONOMY, THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM. ALREADY LOOK AT THE CONSEQUENCES OF OF IT. THE RUSSIAN STOCK MARKET IS CLOSED FOR DAYS BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID OF CAPITAL FLIGHT. THE RUBLE IS WORTH LESS THAN A PENNY. PUTIN'S WAR CHEST, AMASSED A WAR CHEST OF $600 BILLION PERHAPS EXPECTING TO WEATHER SANCTIONS. HE NEVER EXPECTED THESE SANCTIONS, THESE ECONOMIC MEASURES AND BECAUSE OF THEM THAT WAR CHEST IS NOW LARGELY INACCESSIBLE TO HIM. >> CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE THE ASSESSMENT IS ON WHO'S PAYING THE PRICE OF THAT DAMAGE WE HAVE INFLICTED ON RUSSIA? IS IT THE POPULATION? IS IT THE PROTESTERS OF THIS WAR GOING OUT TO THE STREET OR VLADIMIR PUTIN? >> OUR SANCTIONS HAVE BEEN FIRST AND FOREMOST DESIGNED TO PUT PRESSURE ON VLADIMIR PUTIN, THE FOREIGN MINISTER, THE DEFENSE MINISTER, THE OLIGARCHS THAT SUPPORTED HIM, THE CRONIES THOSE THAT ANY WAY SPORTED THIS BRUTAL DECISION. BUT HERE'S THE TRUTH. THESE MEASURES ARE STRONG. THEY ARE UNPRECEDENTED IN TERMS OF SCALE AND SCOPE. AND SO THE IMPACTS ARE GOING TO BE FAR RANGING. OF COURSE IT WILL HAVE AN EFFECT ON ORDINARY RUSSIANS AS THEY WILL HAVE AN AFFECT ON PEOPLE WELL BEYOND RUSSIA. THE GOAL HAS BEEN TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON EVERY DAY RUSSIANS, THOSE BEYOND RUSSIA AND TO MAXIMIZE THE IMPACT ON VLADIMIR PUTIN. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE GONE AFTER THE INDIVIDUALS PERSONALLY. PERSONALLY SANCTIONS VLADIMIR PUTIN AND THE FOREIGN MINISTER. WE GO AFTER THE ILL BEGOTTEN GAINS OF THE OLIGARCH CLASS THAT HAS AMASSED BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS OF CARS. WE ARE GOING AFTER THE RESIDENCES IN CAPITALS AROUND THE WORLD. WE ARE EXACTING A VERY HIGH PRICE ON THEM AND DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO CLEARLY UNDERLINE THE FACT THIS IS NOT A WAR THAT THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE ADVOCATED FOR OR A WAR THAT THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE SUPPORT AND SEEN THAT CLEARLY IN BRAVE RUSSIANS FACING ALMOST CERTAIN ARREST TAKING TO THE STREETS IN MORE THAN 50 CITIES ACROSS RUSSIA. THEY DO NOTHING MORE THAN EXERCISING THE RIGHTS THAT ARE UNIVERSALLY APPLICABLE. WE HAVE SEEN A TRACKDOWN AND PUTIN RESORT BACK TO THE PLAYBOOK TO CRACK DOWN ON THE CITIZENS. CLOSING DOWN SOCIAL MEDIA AND INSPECTED MEDIA. TRYING TO CONTROL THE INFORMATION ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE HE KNOWS NOT ONLY IS THE WAR EFFORT STALLING IN UKRAINE LOSING THE PROPAGANDA WAR IN RUSSIA. >> I WANT TO BRING MICHAEL CROWLEY INTO THE CONVERSATION. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SANCTIONS BEFORE. >> HI, NED. SORRY I COULDN'T BE ON THIS TRIP. I LOOK FORWARD TO JOINING YOU ON THE NEXT ONE. >> NEXT TIME. >> THANK YOU. ON THE SANCTIONS, FOR A STORY WE HAVE UP NOW, ONE THING WE CAME AWAY FEELING IS IT IS NOT CLEAR WHAT THE GOAL AT LEAST TO US WHAT THE GOAL OF THE WESTERN SANCTIONS IS RIGHT NOW, WHETHER THEY ARE AS WE HEARD PUNITIVE? ARE THEY POTENTIALLY DESIGNED TO PUSH VLADIMIR PUTIN OUT OF POWER? OR, IS THERE A SCENARIO IN WHICH PORTIONS OF THE SANCTIONS COULD BE TRADED FOR CON SEXESCESSIONS RUSSIANS FOR CEASE-FIRE OR WITHDRAWAL BY THE TROOPS? I'M NOT SAYING IT'S TOLD TO US AS U.S. POLICY BUT COULD YOU DESCRIBE HOW YOU SEE THE GOAL OF THE SANCTIONS AND THINGS PUTIN COULD BE DOING IN THE SHORT TERM TO GET THE SANCTIONS OFF IN RETURN FOR SPECIFIC STEPS? >> YEAH. IT IS NOT UP TO THE UNITED STATES, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO DECIDE WHO SHOULD BE IN THE SEAT OF POWER IN MOSCOW. THAT ULTIMATELY IS UP TO THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE JUST AS BY THE WAY IT IS NOT UP TO VLADIMIR PUTIN TO DECIDE WHO SHOULD BE IN POWER IN KYIV OR ANY OTHER CAPITAL AROUND HIM OR ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD. SECOND POINT, OUR SANCTIONS ARE NOT PUNITIVE PRIMARILY. THEY'RE IMPOSING A HIGH COST ON PUTIN AND THOSE AROUND HIM AND THE GOAL IN IMPOSING THESE UNPRECEDENTED MEASURES IS TO END THIS BRUTAL CONFLICT. TO SAVE LIVES. SO WE HAVE MADE IT CLEEFRAR TO VLADIMIR PUTIN IF HE CONTINUES TO ESCALATE THE WAY HE HAS AND WE THINK THERE'S A HIGH PROBABILITY TO ESCALATE WE WILL ESCALATE. THE MEASURES WILL GAIN MOMENTUM. NEW MEASURES, NEW AUTHORITIES WILL BE ENACTED IF VLADIMIR PUTIN DOESN'T CHANGE COURSE. IF HE DOES CHANGE COURSE, HOWEVER, OUR APPROACH WILL CHANGE, TOO. OUR GOAL WITH ALL SANCTIONS WHETHER AGAINST RUSSIA OR ANOTHER COUNTRY SARKSNCTIONS ARE NOT AN END AND THE END, THE OBJECTIVE IN THIS CASE IS TO BRING AN END TO THIS BRUTAL CONFLICT BRUTALIZING THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE, THE COUNTRY OF UKRAINE SO IF PUTIN HAS A CHANGE OF MIND, OF HEART, IF THE TACTICS AND STRATEGY CHANGE AND SEE CONCRETE SIGNS OF
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Length: 10min 0sec (600 seconds)
Published: Fri Mar 04 2022
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