Pro-Wall vs Undocumented Immigrants: Can They Agree?

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look at a human being and say you deserve to be under one roof with the people that you love but does that give you a right to break into my house exactly just break into hello I'm Ernesto Rocha and I am a proud undocumented storyteller my name is juan camilo from Salazar at Rio solare era for the gringos JC I'm a singer and actor I'm done gently I'm a spoken word artist and a paralegal and I was undocumented for 12 years Jonathan Miranda and purple hi I'm Julie I'm a grad student and I'm also undocumented Jasmina Saavedra I'm an immigrant I came to this country through the legal process the day after Trump's inauguration I found my mother at 6 a.m. trying to find out how much it would cost to ship our washing machine to the Dominican Republic she said I just want you to be ready in case immigration comes ever since it has felt like my family and my community have been taking punches over and over and over again trying to prove our humanity that we deserve basic human rights I think it was never about a very specific country and a very specific legal status I think it was a fear of everyone who was different he put forth the Muslim ban and through that process a lot of people lost their green card there's their permanent resident status - and after that he came after birthright citizenship undocumented immigrants and I think Mexican and document immigrants in particular were the first to take the hit but that category is gonna continue to grow and it's going to consume a lot of us well I feel attacked by the other side Jews because I loved this country just because I respect the law here I feel attacked but I cannot feel free to support my president because they profile me as a bad person just because I want the best for the people in this country right we said the T word there's a Latino I'm already put in this box but I'm supposed to think this way I'm supposed to act this way I'm supposed to just assumedly go with my group Trump said very specific things and they gets twisted around and presented as like well he thinks all people all Mexicans are rapists it's like that's not what he said the Muslim man it wasn't a Muslim ban they're banning specific countries that were already banned under Obama so to call it a Muslim ban is a very wide umbrella of Association I lonely I feel threatened by is by media it is by identity politics is your JC was saying when first off I don't have a problem with the stories you guys have you come America for betterment but sadly your minority of another minority of people that do come across the border for other not good intent purposes the reason why I talked mostly about Mexico is because it's right on our southern border is right there and our border is totally wack its weak it's nothing there that's why I voted for Trump and what a wall is because even though even come to the Lehrer process I still want you to be protected but also you know President ROM have been saying that you want to help the good illegal people the people who really love this country I mean because you need to a sec no everyone is good I mean you can be here illegally and be respectful to this country and love this country I think there's a theme here this theme of legality the way in which Trump supporters have used this idea of legality has been completely incorrect and dismissive of this country's history if you were to use the same are you man 60 years ago when segregation with legal you could have said I don't want black people in this in this restaurant because the law says that white people and black people shouldn't be in the same spot I have the right to impose that law lost change laws can be unjust I believe in America first I actually believe in America first but I believe every country should have that anything how do you want America first even though these people are not undocumented the moment I hope that the Gates initiative which is hopes ASAP that they come to a country that is prepared to give them opportunities and to go for the goals and dreams that they wish to aspire it's like America first it's like we start with the individual so is your life more important than my life in my world my life is more important in your life and I do my best to take care of myself I fill my cup up so that I can fill up your cup I was first for me if community I don't stand behind any country I can't say that I think Dominican Republic comes first I don't I think it's people come first America first is such a dangerous concept I don't know if you realize but that's the reason why we're caught the world is constantly at war America first is about white Americans first it's white America first versus the few people from all around different countries different colors who are ok with white America first because they're gonna get the second and there's always the temptation for me to align myself in that place and say if I just keep my head down a little bit then I will be next in line too because guess what I am more privileged than undocumented immigrants who come from Latin America who have crossed the border and that is shameful to me and I have to every day train myself to put that thought down because I want to align myself with people and I know you said how can I think about another family when my own family is hurting but why wasn't America thinking about that when it came into the Dominican Republic when it created incredibly uneven trading deals with Mexico when it bombed the hell out of my country right wasn't that for America first isn't that why I'm here illegal immigration hurts legal immigration it's like you're waiting in line to get into this this place and for you to you know go to the back of the line stand in line and wait and to watch people cut in line in front of you it's a big fuck you to my family it's a big fuck you to the whole system it's a whole it's it's not about a wall fuck the wall it's about principles like you said it's based on principles I've even waited there would be no need for a wall in general when you come here illegally and you got cut off now you're in a position of being like in the middle class or anything the worth class were now you're paying more taxes for someone to not pay taxes and now you're paying for their education there was good that could gun for your children that could have gone for American citizens and now we're giving it to them we had a process for a green card in place and guess what we waited those two years and what happened was we were denied because they said your parents aren't making enough money that happened two more times every time we were denied my parents decided to stay because our entire lives were here our entire community our church community our friends when you say there is a right way to immigrate here and there is an illegal way and you use a big fat label on all of that you're really obscuring all these diverse details about people's lives it's it's a really dangerous rhetoric when you begin to put good versus bad legal versus illegal listen I crossed into this country I migrated I walked with my brothers and my mother I was a poor kid who had no shoes how could I know that there was a legal process and when I came into this country I absolutely found out what it was to be entering into that legal process I'm in that process now 11 years and Counting so what you're doing is instead of looking up to the systems that are putting all of these situations into place you are looking down to the people most downtrodden we did nothing to deserve this it is actually the systems that are play that you have to look and reflect and say why is this happening to your family why is it that your people about why Oh simplify to their own government why the one a fire and demand America and that is insulting why why you drive victimize yourself there is no victimization my how are you sir how dare you say that there is a victimization between my mother making a very real strategic decision and logical to say I am going to reunite my kids together to live under one roof everyone have their own story and I'm fine with this but now we're talking about the thousands of people trying to jump our territory language is important language is important how you discuss the people who I mean I'm just tired to feel like oh I cannot say this because they're gonna get offended I mean I'm offended because I'm an American because I'm followed in love I'm offended because I'm a Christian woman because I'm a woman with principle with model with fate something that's very interesting to me is when religion comes into place right and we say I am an American I am a Christian yet you are unable to put aside the political and look at a human being and say you deserve to be under one roof with the people that you love regardless of what the government decides to call you but does that give you a right to break into my house to break into his house the next statement is becoming a legal citizen should be easier if you look at the way that the government issues visas it's in a completely political system who gets it what time how many years and so when you think about citizenship it absolutely should be easier in the legal process but let's not lose sight the citizenship also means the way that you move about in your values and say I can be a citizen of this country because I am a human being and I think we have to recognize that undocumented immigrant don't want to be undocumented if we were up to a documented immigrant they will go show up apply for a green card and then apply for citizenship and that's it the system is currently failing because we are not appointing people who are able to understand why people are coming people who are able to connect with the different stories that people are bringing for us but the problem is we need all to agree but even legal or illegal immigration need to be control because you can see what is happening here in California we see our street looking like a third-world I would respect that I would respect that opinion if I didn't know that more people were leaving the u.s. than coming in that undocumented immigrants are not the one predominantly committing crimes in this country you see that people are more likely to leave now than some let me tell you this I'm sorry to disagree when people are complaining about gun they say oh we need gun control because even one life matter well the same thing even if they are document people having committed a crime even one life matter let me tell you this I have a sister who become a widow at the age of 34 with two little boy because her husband got killed for an illegal alien my brother-in-law life matter the wall for me is a message of love from our president to his people because he want to protect the people from this side of the wall even you guys you want to protect everyone from these days of the wall but we need to understand hummus first how can I help someone far away if I not able to help the people who is close to me the reason why I am so against the wall number one economically very infeasible and number two I don't see the wall as being a physical barrier between two countries I see it as a very symbolic barrier between people people who are running for their lives are still going to come because trust me your desire to live is going to help you find a way to get over some wall you know that's that's not the problem walls barricades barriers are not the economic moral answer everyone in this room can make America great by finding solutions rather than finding problems that's what a lot of people like to do we like to point out what's wrong and not try to figure out what we can do to make it better we all agree that the immigration system sucks like you do what again like you're into the field of I'm a paralegal but I've been a me trooper senator okay and so you know more about it than I do I don't know shit compared to you so I want to hear your more unit perspective and I'm open to that that's what American needs more of you have something I don't you're superior in that field and if we look at ant elect before skin tone or before politics that would open up more doors to make America great we're making America even better it's people who are in this country who want to fight for the betterment of it as was making this country great but I really appreciate it [Music]

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Length: 14min 39sec (879 seconds)

Published: Sun Mar 10 2019

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