Pretty Big Deal with Ashley Graham | Gabrielle Union

all right hi everyone I'm Ashley Graham and you are here on my podcast pretty big deal we are gonna be talking about beauty business culture and owning who you are we want to make sure that you get involved get on Instagram get on Twitter also there's now it's called anchor and you can send me a voicemail what's going on I want to hear how without further ado I want to tell you the amazing actress producer Gabrielle Union oh it's amazing it's pretty good what is it do you think what is it weighed wine you guys have your own wine well my husband has weighed wine I have my own white wine vanilla puddin No okay we are officially a wine wait why No hold ourselves fired it's okay it's mainly sold in mainland China oh no I mean like legit it's like wait wine is mainly sold in does brisk business but okay well maybe you can send me a case I can get you some puddin hey I could get you some pudding pudding tastes like it's a short name with vanilla undertones but I thought like why have somebody search for some random title like amongst you know a very crowded shelf so I wanted it to kind of stand out so I named my why my wine vanilla pudding with no G put in ' and it's all they told him right in total why anymore Wow look at you where's your vineyard it's an epic okay Wow yeah with the with the true sword family you got to get wine tequila vodka like listen no you I will not stop okay so we were actually at the met yeah we sat at the same table with the problem it was an amazing event with how many times have you been to the met uh three that was my third time okay that was my second I feel like every time I go like even more nervous because it feels like you have to keep topping what you did the year before yeah because people actually keep like count of and track of your your your highlights let's hope or how you have failed miserably she did not even stay on theme that's what I kept getting this year do you want me to like well there's e but you have a choice do you stay on theme and potentially look nuts yet or do you just go cute yeah I know and I like to err on the side of cute I really think I went really cute - you looked hot Thanks so did I you look really hot when we were getting our pictures taken it was probably like what ten of us came in it was anyway so we were at the table and we were all talking and the one thing I kept asking for was vodka but your thing was tequila tequila so tequila is like the end-all be-all that we are very good friends sometimes we break up around 3 a.m. and then the next day tequila's like you how's that stomach and I'm like who loves tequila so not only do we have the met in common both from Nebraska which do people know that I don't know okay so I didn't know like that you spent every summer in Omaha and not only that you went to you and L or yeah yeah you went out and I was like she really is from Nebraska they'll be great we're going to the home opener and then when we were at a football game with my whole family oh yeah Dewayne and Gabrielle they come all the time I'm like for real real or a big fan I am a insane fan my friends and everybody in Nebraska is about to disown me but I just don't care about football like that I just like if you're gonna invite me to a game I know see there goes the we can keep moving on so for the whole state of Nebraska let me run real quick when did this disinterest start okay so in women during our lean years we haven't always you know we won a lot of national championships you heard the Nebraska come out we want to laugh Neil GOP Joey and then we had some lean ears did you abandon us during our lean years is that what it was I moved to Nebraska when I was in eighth grade you might have missed your formative years yes thank you like it wasn't engrained in me like big red was knots whispered in my ear as I came out of my mother's vagina like that's what happened yes and it's like what my mom and I would do is we would go to the mall when there was a football game because we knew no one would be there yes okay first of all for people who don't know football Saturdays in the state of Nebraska Memorial Stadium is the third largest city in the state because everyone if you can't actually get a seat you come to Lincoln or you just don't leave your house no I know it's I accept Nebraska Ashley left her house to go to where were you going to Westroads crossroads where we were in Lincoln so we were going to South Point South Point because my mom you saw when you were in Lincoln not going to the game or watching game yeah who was there with you here on the South at the Wet Seal like where were you going me and mom you and mom at Wet Seal we went to Hot Topic we went to webseal we went to Christopher and Bank this is blasphemy it's a Ramin were you even eating run zé's do you think no but don't you blaspheme I love their fries their fries are amazing their fries a Godfather's Pizza okay okay all right also no runs I was raised on the farm in the in the summers so I'm like a real Nebraskan yeah come on work with come on Runza or football like I don't I blame it that you guys moved in the 8th grade you just didn't have time I was 13 years old 12 years old and then and then we left when I was when I left when I was 17 so 12 to 17 only in Nebraska so I did not read we're going to need some more wine I listen to it because I'm a millennial it's it's how I it's how it the stories are meant to be told like I saw your face kind of go womp and then get excited cuz you're like he didn't read it no I listened to it it's amazing how you were I don't know I'm like I'm talking to you now and it feels like I was just like talking to you yesterday because I got through it in two days I mean it is awesome read it's so it's serious but it's um it's necessary and it literally felt like I was talking to my best girlfriend who had already lived a life that I needed to learn from but that I felt like I could share anything back with so first of all thank you for writing that it's also sounds like you wrote it yourself - yeah because it is hard I know I wrote my book last year and and it's hard it's hard to get all your memories together it's hard to get all your thoughts out on paper and then really have a feel genuine to the reader yeah and you did that yeah you really mean it I wanted it to sound like a cool conversation over cocktails and said I was lucky enough to not write I wasn't going for pilot sir right you know what I mean I was going for a conversation and caranas conversation so I write the way I speak because that's how I want the reader to receive the message so I'm lucky in that way I wasn't trying to write my you know college application essay right you know and be judged by how many you know SAT words I've thrown in there you really just trying to be honest and and then luckily with by me doing my own audible it actually you can listen to it in the way that I intended in the beginning of your book you talk about living in a very white world and being a black woman but not wanting them to see your blackness yeah and then going to Omaha and being with your grandma and your cousin and then wanting to be black but they're like oh your cousin is white and I want to know today what you're telling those young girls who have similar experiences who hate their skin who hate their hair who hate who just they are in general what are you telling them today that you wish you would have heard then that maybe would have helped change the course of your childhood yeah I mean it's a journey to worthy right so it's I tell people first and foremost maybe you were worried from birth you were worthy as a thought you were worthy as a zygote so as you move through the world do not be afraid of taking up space do not be afraid of living your most authentic life do not I get code-switching because I do it all the time but you don't have to whatever your authentic voice is that's what you ride with you don't have to switch it up to be something to everyone because you will be end up being nothing to you that's good this you know the other day I was talking about this the performance of perfection and we have this idea of what a perfect black person is and white folks have an idea of what a perfect black person is which is usually a mute or somebody that amplifies white supremacy that centers white supremacy and I have been that person and and and in my own community this idea that you have to be the woke astilbe is most natural hair weariness most fully evolved educated formed person at all times it's it's impossible because we're all on this journey no matter where you are on that journey you are a dope you're dope person you are a worthy person and who you are as a black person wherever you are on that journey is real and valid mm-hmm whoever you found that's okay to write um if any if you are naturally if you wear your hair natural if you wear your hair wigs if you wear extensions if you if you rock a relaxer it has no bearing on your soul or your character and there's always someone who's able to do your hair yes when you show up to a set yes you know and again like you also got an eye on your book yeah sometimes being the acceptable black person in a white you know set in a white glam squad trailer is being the the mouse the the one who that not the squeaky wheel and buy a squeaky wheel they mean demanding accountability for the for the diversity that exists on this set and having somebody that is qualified and knowledgeable on how to do our hair no matter the the the curl pattern and and people who even have makeup that matches our skin tone hello you don't want to bend your own body but - but to say I need this for white folks sometimes that makes you a squeaky wheel a difficult person and somebody to be cast off and I've never had that that experience you know or seen the experience with with a cast mate that does not have my skin color or hair texture well more on that later because I want to talk about race because I think race conversation is a very important one to have especially today especially with white people because I think more white people need to be educated but we're gonna get back on that later I want to talk about breaking it you start in breaking in you produced breaking in yes I mean was this your first time starring and producing ya know same film no no cuz we did almost Christmas okay I did another one for lifetime called with this ring okay so how was it first of all shooting breaking in because that was like a badass foe it was a challenge and we made it for a sack of Doritos and luckily we are now I think at eight or nine times budget oh wow so it's it is a massive hit by Hollywood standards by anybody's standards okay so in talking about breaking in I also want to talk about how it is with black films so how does this feel now like films are changing late it hello it feels late but I want to talk about right now like yes it feels like we know it's late like everybody's talking about ladies I want people to say it's late like before every sense like I am so sorry we are latest book we have categorically ignored billions of people our bad but I want them everyone to start every conversation what is it you can't say our bad you have to well it is our bad you know if I'm also a filmmaker and I know that there are billions of stories and billions of narratives that deserve to be told have I done everything I can to make sure all of those voices have been heard I'd like to say no I haven't - I'm a litter the ownership I will take some ownership of that as a creative I haven't done everything in my power I'm going to try to rectify that as often as I can and as much as I can and to make sure that my production company is reflective of the global audience but every time I've gotten a seat at the table did I make damn sure that there were other seats and enough you know you know seats at that table did I make sure that that people had directions to the house where the table was at you know what I mean not always sometimes I felt like oh I'm a special negro I'm here you know that's enough and it's not enough but just you can't always like voice your opinion you can't only be the one nobody know but there are so many times where I've even been in a room and I can say what I want to say but then they might gloss over you and be like okay yeah there there big girl and and then nothing ever changes at least you know you you are part of the solution and your sight in silence is complicity okay yes because if you're a part of the silence you're a part of the problem they're like and she's cool with it actually I mean ah she didn't say anything right no I get it so for me I'd rather be here she goes again then the mute yeah in the room with a seat at the table but here we are and we've got films that are finally coming out with all black all Asia and all like I mean we can go down the gamut and it's finally happening this idea that that real inclusion isn't lucrative in Hollywood is a farce has been a farce amen I'm you know and we mean I don't know how many times people have to pretend to be shocked right you know like like breaking in again we made it for a sack of Doritos and they're like look at you go and it's like honey I've been going yeah tell me a movie I've been a part of that has lost money exact never because it doesn't exist 23 years later how the hell did I become an on janu overnight I've gotten more opportunities at 45 than when I was you know eating Top Ramen at 25 when I'm supposed to have more opportunity you are supposed to be more visible in you know I mean and more worthy though you had said something about brown women just being in film and I also want to talk about your boy yeah and how you just came out and talked about them following girls on Instagram this is something that's very interesting to me because I live my husband's black and I get to have these open conversations about race about how we're going to raise our potential children about how what it is like for him to be a black man in America and when first of all there was the chapter about your boys in when they were when you're driving the golf cart to go get them and then now with the Instagram I just I want to talk about that because first of all you're a phenomenal stepmom and I love everything that you said in your in your book because it gave me chills it really did and and I want to talk about raising young black men I want to talk about the struggles but I also want to talk about the joys but the struggles it's terrifying it's terrifying once they're old and I laughed because a little nervous yeah no I mean it's like they once they're open to move around you know without you know being physically tethered to you you just hope they come back mm-hmm you know you know all the the obstacles that they could face in any given day you know how their skin has been demonized and weaponized and criminalized and especially in Florida any one of my neighbors can kill my kid and get away with it and say I was afraid okay I got a bonus terrifying yeah and then they're privileged they are they've grown up with with other children of privilege and in Miami other Latino children other you know white kids that are really you know I try to be but but there's a certain amount of privilege that an entitlement that they've been raised with and that don't matter you know you aren't walking around with your parent's credit scores or their bank account a bank accounts on your forehead you you have you're just occupying space in a black body in traditionally white privilege spaces you cannot respond to authority figures police police officers our neighbors security officers have no voice teachers in the same way that your friends can and it's that proximity to whiter or lighter privilege that they can see that is infuriating to them listen we all have Chatty Cathy kids and friends that we have and they kept saying but I wasn't the only one talking I'm like but you were the only black one talking and when your teacher is scanning the classroom who do you think her eye goes to when you were giving the boys advice in your book and you said do not be alone with a white girl in a room do not wander this house because who will all something pops off who are they gonna believe and actually point at you and it's gonna be your fault now being a white woman who will potentially have children that will be black I have to switch my mind I have to completely say wow I was never raised like that I I have to educate myself and I think that in a lot of interracial relationships that isn't happening they're not having those kinds of conversations so all the white women out there that or all the white guys how if there's like you have to have these conversations when you're in an interracial relationship because as a way person we live in a white world well as a black person you live in a white world also and it's this constant harping that we don't know about that you guys have to not only have to explain yourself every day that you have to educate every day everything feels like a teachable moment and it is exhausting it is exhausting it is infuriating and you know and you know you you have to understand that your children will move through the world differently than you mm-hm and your money your privilege your your how you are adored will be different mm-hmm for your children and it's not something that they get to carry with them as layers of protection you know once your kids like I said are old enough to move through the world without you physically right there you they just have to hope that the world treats them with the same love and kindness that that you raise them with right and that they are aware enough that they come home to you mm-hmm and they do all the things that you consciously or subconsciously that allowed them to come home and like you know having a conversation about how to walk the dog right I mean to me that was like also am I going to have to teach my children like how like that'd they have to fear even to walk the dog going to dewayne's friends going down to the bottom yeah like what yeah that's insane it's really it's it's insane but okay between healthy self-image and healthy fear how exactly are you raising your sons to be the strong black men that they are and that is that is that that is a question right I haven't figured it out damn what we what we do which is part of what makes what makes me fearful is you are a strong proud beautiful intelligent world global citizen mm-hmm right stand in that knowledge be proud of that own your space don't let any don't shrink for anybody but in the same breath when you are in the presence of the police if acting subservient will bring you home you do it you do whatever it takes to come home and then you let me whoop somebody's ass but that have you had to go back to the police station and say no I mean luckily we have not had this I have had to go to the school though I know cuz that's also in your book yeah II pulled your son's out because I mean the fact that more than one kid was calling them the n-word is disrespectful unexcusable and the fact that the school had no idea to quote think like that yeah was just Oh or when my children are responding they are being called bullies yes I love that your paperwork kind of girl listen I will come with spreadsheets like memos like listen gentlemen if you don't know what about yeah but she brought paperwork and Excel sheets into her parent-teacher conference articles to the principal's office to talk about all of this so read the book but it's like we have to be very clear about the words that we use and how we describe people and if you were describing my boys as bullies for trying to hold their classmates accountable for calling them the n-word and and and being wildly disrespectful right um the school is the bully right you are not protecting my children right you're not calling a spade a spade you were you were demonizing my children for holding somebody accountable as opposed to holding the child accountable for you know calling them negative like and then you're and then you're kind of leaning into the age-old of well they you know it's so confusing to our kids because rappers use it know right that's such I mean honestly it it should not be in the vocabulary for white people and they should just understand that it's not your word it is our word and they can use it you know whoever they want you don't magically go home and call somebody a because it's in a Justin Bieber song exactly he magically can pull it together then yep this is true like you don't talk out of the side of your face to your mother you know call them and hoes because you know you have sense this is but there's something about someone saying you cannot say this that it creates this like verbal diarrhea oh yeah no you're right and and then you want you one and out listen just for your own personal safety I would suggest you not use it but why don't you try it in a group of people that don't look like your little classmates and see how far you get and we need when you get your ass whooped talk to them about Kanye said it before that works yes see how see if Kanye said it will magically heal the gash on your forehead can be realistic about it or you can wait till your child writes a best-selling book gonna need some robot you know I mean I mean I feel like everybody okay so so yes you know so Mike you want to talk so my kids were like I felt like you should not have talked about us and our Instagram that was a private conversation that you made public really mad they were very annoyed oh come and ice and they were like and that wasn't even me who said it now granted I did not sue I was not super articulate in that we were talking to a group of kids a couple of them you know the boys that live in our house but a gang of them yeah we're not showing that I'm personally responsible for and those were the kids who are more talking about parents early yes so they felt personally maligned but but again it's like these are the ization it you know you were part of a convert a larger conversation but again like when when you talk about who are the beautiful you know young women that you follow even whether it be at your school in your community in the world she was she was cute 1.2 million followers that you told them to look at Orion destiny oh she's cute I mean you know she was my WCW the other day she's a triple threat she is fly and amazing and they're like well she doesn't go to the girls like at our school don't look like that I'm like first of all before Ryan destiny was Ryan destination she went to high school and she looked like that and I've been to your high school there's a ton of girls who look like that at the new school at yeah at their school yeah but there's it's Miami it is land of the beautiful people and before they become beautiful women they are beautiful young people odor sells for me Oh represent heat lifer but you know what I mean and but you and then we got to go a little deeper what is it about your skin hmm that you cannot see a girl who has your skin color and see the beauty in her do you see the beauty in in in in when you see it when you look in the mirror mm-hmm because for me I feel like you're projecting yet something some feelings that you have about yourself on to these young women in in it in erasing them and ignoring them and not seeing their beauty but you went through that yeah but with dating light-skinned guys yeah because I somehow thought that I was more visible and I was more real and valid and worthwhile if a light-skinned boy found me attractive like it was somehow negating my darkness and in the reverse you know what is it about how you see yourself right that makes you erase these young women right I want you to be able to see that women are beautiful in every shade shape race ethnicity religion like every along the spectrum there is beauty right and right now what I'm seeing is a very very very narrow scope of all of who you like who you want to be with and so last night we were having this a discussion with a larger group of boys our boys were in LA right before they had to go back to school we were having this discussion about what do you want young girls to know right if I you know I'm gonna go speak to young girls I was speaking to a group of women today what do you guys want young girls to know and they're like that we're not all the same you guys always say you know you blink ain't chip Yeah right you know and and you can say whatever you want you know but we're not all like that we don't all we're not all just concerned with what's between your legs we some of us want to actually get to know you and you know we care about your accomplishments we care about you know what else you have going on we care about your relationship with your you know with your parents or whatever and I was like okay that is so fair and amazing do you think you are sending mixed messages based on the decisions and the choices that you actually make in real life do you think what you say is is what you do right because actions speak louder than words yes especially for young people yeah and I said so when you look at all the young women that you follow and I said you and you guys know that who you like what you like and who you follow on social media is public knowledge right so I always look to see who's following yeah so you know do you think that your follows and your likes and who you give attention to yeah do they speack does that your speak to what you're saying yeah crickets Wow because you just dropped the mic on them so you know and I said if that's not who you want to be perceived as and don't be that guy in the house we're gonna pass a tithe offering of the title bucket around further for the building fund another thing that's near and dear to my heart that you talk a lot about is your incident where you were raped at 19 years old yeah and I cried when I listen to this because I could hear the pain that you still had in your voice when you spoke about it but I also applauded you because of all the work that you're doing for every other woman who is a rape victim today and I want to talk about the me to movement I want to talk about how do you feel now today as yourself versus when you were that at 19 years old and what has changed for you what has the industry done for you what is the me to movement done for you what the Miche movement has done is create a space a safe ich mich space for people who have experienced sexual violence it has created the space to let you know you are not alone you're not suffering in silence you you are not suffering in a vacuum there are unfortunately many people in this up club but you're not alone right and there are there are things that we can do about this there are ways of holding people accountable and there are strength in numbers and while nobody wants to be a part of this up club since we are all here how do we collectively pool our our power how do we reclaim our power and then use it to hold people accountable to change the next generation to to attack toxic masculinity to attack rape culture how can we elicit real fundamental legislative change for the next generation while also healing ourselves because we haven't had that opportunity to talk about it until now there because there's so much shame and blame that goes that that that swirls around sexual violence and and we we are definitely still in unfortunately blame-the-victim [Music] spaces and when you look at how the me to movement has impacted communities of color it has not had the same impact the voices in the me to movement who've been who are most vulnerable who are most impacted those voices have not and those experiences have not been amplified right we have unfortunately centered voices of not just white women but white Hollywood royalty right and when you realize even those women are not believed those women are maligned those women you know are still getting the you fighting for the resources to heal it it makes a lot of other other people in communities of color or marginalized communities feel like if they aren't being heard or if their voices are trying to be squashed what does that mean for me just in the way that Terry Crews was malign and continues to be maligned what does that say to young young men older men who have been abused about how their their masculinity and their character will be attacked for telling the truth we send a lot of up miss message mixed messages and I want to be clear that the me to movement is all inclusive you know I've been using the phrase me too for many years a lot of us have been using the phrase you do think than me to phrase when you're talking in your book and you said that women look at you and you say me too mm-hmm did you say that before the movement began yeah yeah yeah well yes and no okay I said it before Alyssa Milano got catapulted the meaty movement into a larger hashtag but the me to movement was started you know like in an official capacity by Toronto Burk a decade before got it okay so um she's headed out for a decade a decade yeah and we're just now hearing about it because she's a black woman and we do not Center the voices and the pain of black and brown women there's so many of us across the board that desperately need the me to movement but there are some of us who in marginalized communities that need the microphone more microphones more stages I want to make sure the volume is turned all the way up and that's what you're doing you're going into these communities and you're making sure that these women's voices are heard and again when we talk about any kind of movement or corporation or crew you know the squad goals if if there is not intersectionality you it's self-serving right right period right you know if there's not real inclusion if there's not real intersectionality in infinite in feminism in your corporation and in your group of friends but you are all supposed to be change agents how much change are you really making or are you all patting yourselves on the back you're actually creating change I mean I'm trying to well you're very inspirational to me and you're very inspirational to a lot of young women and something that we're doing on pretty big deal is we are honoring women or initiatives who are changing their world changing their narrative changing the people around them and today I want to give you the opportunity to kind of give your woman women crushed podcast kind of oh so who do you want a hotter today oh my gosh I know so many people because there's so many dope people it's okay um you know what because we were just talking about her tirana Burke okay who has become a good friend she has been on the ground for over a decade doing this work without the money without the support without the resources without major media without a publicist she's been doing the work because she is of the work right and I'm just I'm incredibly proud of what she's done I'm incredibly proud of what she's doing now that she is on a bigger stage I'm incredibly proud of how she is amplifying the work of the other sisters in the struggle and and and our male allies yes but she never mince his words she never compromises her integrity and her dignity or the message right she's a beautiful woman she's sure soldiers incra the great lady and now I've been seeing her at runway shows last night she is everywhere I love it she is everywhere and what I love is that when a microphone gets in her face she redirects to the real issues right she's smart thank you okay there's our woman Chris podcast okay so I want to wrap this up a little bit and we're we're gonna move on from very serious conversation to a little bit of fun okay a little bit more lighthearted so just change your hats a little bit I'm gonna give you a pretty big deal because if you're a pretty big deal I'm a pretty big deal all of youse is a pretty big deal and you can kind of finish a sentence I'm just gonna say a pretty big D pretty big idea pretty big influence okay so I just Nikki I want you to wrap it up why did you sing Nikki I was like she knows I do I know you thank you now I feel really seen I love it I really got me wine Angie called me Nikki yes we're just gonna work on your Nebraska good can you make run says no no I just shipped them in we ship them in oh my god did you spill in this way it's okay it actually caught my black butt but you know we'll have velvet no didn't get it okay good okay so Nikki and I are gonna go through this and it's kind of rapid-fire if you need help I can help you okay okay pretty big idea some change your life uh ization don't let fear literally kill you wow that's good pretty big influence ooh Regina King Wow I love her a pretty big place Omaha Nebraska okay pretty big look Oh Janet mock Oh love her okay big pretty big recommendation Memorial Stadium football Saturday huh Nebraska okay pretty big motto Oh bad happens to people every day it's how you choose to deal with it I love that and I always say very similar situation is it just depends on how you handle the situation and that's how bad it's going to be for you exactly Thank You Gabrielle Union oh is that it that's it I was like I'm a Scorpio I like walks on the beach but I also want to say thank you and what's next because we all want to know what's going on in your world what's next okay so you know obviously our my partnership with New York and company Gabrielle Union I'm through with the with New York and company you also have a new clothing line that's size inclusive yes I freaking get that for me I saw a hole in the industry and I wanted to fill it yes did you feel like you saw a hole also like what was your woman retention goal was to create a line that my family could enjoy okay but my family is not all sighs you know 20 and under right you know I mean we have all different sizes and there was a good chunk of my family who couldn't wear my clothes and so we had to fight and continue to fight to make sure that we had we were size inclusive Wow and in the first season like yeah in the beginning you know it's you know it's it's a fight mm-hmm to make sure that we have you know enough sizes and then be like oh you're family gonna have whatever it wants and I was like good chunk of my family can't it isn't fitting into my line right and so we had to make sure that that my family could in every family yeah could actually wear the clothes well because the average highs of American woman is a size 1416 so if we're looking at the average and we're not even scaling up or down than like who are we dressing exactly but I also like that you wear the clothes yeah because there's a lot of people just mock their name on so yeah no I can't my whole goal about the company New York and company is that it's for everyone it's a price point for that that a good chunk of people can can appreciate and get into and I just wanted to offer a little something that was like a bit of a slice of my closet and and then somebody that's like my wishful thinking like things that I don't get to wear that often that I'm like well can we try to move in this space let's all like tried to get them right you know should all be like fashion experiments together my wallets hair company for kids with textured hair I have my new show LA's finest with the I hope she is one but your next guest Jessica Alba I'm so excited she's back he's uh-huh me I had to I had to pry her back really I mean you know in her downtime when she's not running a billion-dollar company or you know raising three children I'd literally like begged her to come play with me not even three months postpartum oh so you guys are like real friends yeah yeah what's crazy is just like us we met at different LA events drinking tequila yeah and now hopefully we are gonna be changing the television lens I'm really saying - vos chicks women of color change in landscape and we're gonna need more wine still available in hardback but January 15th we are going to paperback I'm really also available inaudible I know for all the Millennials out here who feel like you don't have time to read audible is the way oh and I have a production company what's it called I'll have another that's awesome yes we're really into food between the hoarding your production company your book yeah yeah and then I have the campaign with Duane with Hallmark where I had to choose somebody that means the world to me and I chose my honey and and I and I talk about how you know I wanted to show him that I I see and appreciate all of the little things that he did that he does every day to prioritize my my peace and my joy and my grace we're celebrating eight years in August eight years what is okay veterans tell us no no what is the secret I feel like I feel like know already we just a secret we just laugh together we laugh all the freaking time and we have great sex okay Thank You Gabrielle Union Thank You Darci Linda always and for just talking about Wade County don't forget we want to hear everything that you are thinking go to pretty big deal Twitter Instagram and also to our new favorite app anchor where you can leave me a voicemail or you can also leave gabriella voicemail as well you go together like shuttle ever that without a bang at a tank okay so thank you she's a Gabrielle Union this is pretty big deal and don't forget you are bold you are brilliant you were beautiful love all you

Channel: Ashley Graham

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Keywords: prettybigdeal, podcast, ashleygraham, gabrielleunion

Id: qe7sMLyKhJ4

Length: 43min 26sec (2606 seconds)

Published: Thu Oct 11 2018