Predator (1987) - Rental Reviews

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basically starts off like a war film and then it turns into like a slasher film set in the jungle but the killer is an alien even wears a mask it's a lot like you know Jason Voorhees there was so much suspense the first time I saw this as a kid we're at first he's like invisible and then every now and then you get a glimpse of them and then as it goes on they give you a little more and more and then finally toward the end when he unmasked himself that was like a big moment like now everybody knows what the pressure looks like yeah but back then that's a shock yeah yeah faced with the like the mouth coming thanks what was interesting about this film yes it's it's an action horror survival film which is it really its own genre there's not many that are done like this so this is almost to me a creation of a genre and unlike horror films where you have protagonists that are not equipped to deal with the threat these are highly trained Special Forces soldiers that if something could take down these guys this is the ultimate yeah harmony oh and they have the minigun they have grenade launchers they're all heavily armed they're all huge dudes too like there's a strain guys there are they're highly trained yeah and it's just like that's what I like about it too is you could have more did this movie as like it's just an Arnold you know action and in action movie and also the beginning parts in the in the trailer and then people go and see it and they're like wait what this is like an alien movie yeah all of a sudden it's like a great twist yeah it's just and you all you see is like they they're going in when they go into the and they find the skinned bodies and they think like wow these these gorillas are like messed up guys yeah they're just getting people and everything and meanwhile it's the predator like going around just like destroying Peter as they're going in to the metal hole scene to in it well I guess we should back up we got to go we should talk about like the beginning the meetings and everything okay yeah the iconic I mean you got Carl Weathers and Don yet Poppaea don't you don't and Dutch the yes Anishinaabe finish which we recreated for you'd watch commercial cop yeah yeah with the launches but I think one of us had to wear our watch like on the other side of our wrist i I don't know this this movie for Arnold I I don't feel like this is his most like everybody thinks of Arnall or thinks of predator when they think of Arnold sure this is definitely one of his most Arnold Lee movies yeah it is I would actually disagree and this is why this is one of the only RL moves from the arrow he's not larger-than-life he to me he's toned down he only has a couple of little clips like to stick around he throws the knife I was like that's not that's out of place because for the rest of the movie he's just this guy commanding the units and like we said before he's not any he's not the biggest guy versus Jesse Ventura yeah yeah or Sunnyland him they're just all jacked gods Carl Weathers and so yeah it really comes across as this is a real military unit there's no one guy that's weaker than the other they they talk about that they allude to past events of things things they've done they've gone in there trouble but these are all guys that love and depend on each other it's a very nice look of how a military you know like that probably functions and behaves there's no like well this guy's an [ __ ] we don't like this I know they all like each other I mean some have different personalities like there's the there's the jokesters like that Jesse Ventura's let you know give him the tobacco or whatever he's like saying like this stuff will make you a sexual Tyrannosaurus like yeah he's like giving him a hard time for not you know adjoining a minute and then there's the the [ __ ] joke guy where he like jokes about you know whatever in seconds and he's isn't he he's the one Shane black wrote plays Hawkins the first one we get killed he wrote predator mmm-hmm and he actually went on to do a lot of other things like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and he also did Iron Man 3 so he he has a pentagram I believe in the film someone's holding a sergeant Rock comic and he was supposed to be writing that and that was oral I think was supposed to start as well so yeah he was on set I think to help doctor the script as well but they kill him off fairly early yeah Phil well I wonder if he wrote that in though like maybe it's like I wanted I want this thing to just kill me you know that because how many times can you like write yourself a death scene you know well he's the only one yeah he's also the only one app all that crew you can tell he's the smallest guy out of all them these are like medications yeah everyone else is like six more Jackie and to the hilt I really love that scene when they're all firing into the jungle and that none of them know what they're firing at it's just this senseless like macho just shoot them up like whatever it is like if it moves kill it and they're just all shooting and then they just like they either run out of bullets or something they're all just like looking around like what the hell like they destroyed nothing but trees and they're like you're just as confused watching as they are the things they go from being like going into that town where where the the guerrilla fighters are and to save the hostages and they just waste everyone and then the none of them even get really hurt I think Jesse Ventura could get some points like I ain't got time to bleed and all that but they go from destroying everything to now being hunted one by one not knowing what's going on and becoming weak I don't feel like Arnold's really ever the underdog in a lot of his movies he's always an imposing force even in in Terminator 2 he be kind of is against the t1000 but he always seems like he's almost on equal grounds with this it's like you don't know like he's he is scared of the Predators yeah I mean he's the final chase like victim where he it follows the format that was set you know almost 10 years earlier with Halloween and actually before that Texas change so massacre there's always a final chase it's always like this monster or killer who's a lot stronger or like more deadly but then the the person who's the victim has to turn the tables and like actually fight back and you know outsmart the killer well what's interesting is that it showed that it was like primal man yes come back to bows and arrows Nate Spears yeah rocks and yes because this gradually they figure out that this is a personal thought that the guerrillas were attacking about first it was right first I think Jim hopper is the one that went in before him they never say yeah and they were just gone so they were questioned each other these guerrillas they're outsmarting us and then car whether this car is like though these just a couple of guys out there screwing with us and killing us so eventually they figure out no no this is something else when they see the net and they don't know what's in it cuz it's camouflage and then real quick you can see it yeah and then when when Arnold Dutch he swims to shore gets all the mud remember the first time you see the predator jump in the water mmm he totally uncloaked you can Sam and then he's like okay I don't have guns aren't gonna do it against this guy yes that's the one thing too I guess like when bringing up the the slasher film the slasher is always going against teenagers and way weaker characters but this is the first time where the slasher is going after trained killer yeah you know these guys are there to kill you it's final that the title's predator and you see Swartz Nega and you would assume he is he's yeah but he's not the predator he's the prey yeah pretty much yeah um and they die in many great ways yeah absolutely and I really like how it ends when I'm the the predator decides like he's gonna fight him without any of his powers like he's Ivana yeah like the predator has that that intelligence where he's he's doing he knows exactly what he's doing and at this point you know he has the infrared vision he has like the you know with the stuffy like shoots out of his arms or whatever and like he has her on the shoulder inside yeah laser he's got all these powers and then decides like like [ __ ] that I'm doing none of this I'm taking off the mask and like we're just gonna go like head to head and look the predator wants the challenge like it doesn't a sportsman it's yeah you know it's a hunter mm-hmm the predator is there to hunt it once competition its and and and it keeps trophies you know yeah when it rips out the spine and skull of uh I think it was it was it Billy yeah any like car it cuts his chest and everything I so it's like the the it's not this mindless alien that you come to notice and in movies where it's just a killing machine it is like thinking being it will not kill anything unless it thinks it's it's worthy of them yeah throughout the series it has to be a worthy opponent someone armed or someone that could be dangerous in and of themselves what's interesting also about this movie is how the production of the predator creature didn't start there originally it was like this reddish ant creature really and starring in that role was supposed to be VanDam VanDam was onset huh and they put him in this this ant looking suit because originally they wanted the the predator to be sort of like stealth like and jumping around and doing that so I think by necessity and also it worked out great with the film that once they fired VanDam realized that this ant suits ridiculous then they went I believe got Stan Winston to do the predator design they're already filming they're into filming so what how you gradually learn what the predator looks like was not I think totally by design they had to because they had it on the fly think about okay this isn't working we need something else yeah I think if you look at some behind the scenes footage I believe so like when Hawkins is getting dragged away in its camouflage I think that was the original this reddish ant soup okay they kept that in the film because at that point it's camouflage by what the enemy by what the effects of the the light bedding is incredible yeah for that so it worked out great the gradual reveal of the number of your villain slash alien yeah it is such like a subtle effect that just works really well stealth is just because it's like you see it but you don't it's like it looks like heat waves or something like that but it's so like mmm-hmm it did become like such that like iconic thing about the movie is just that weird warped look that again the predator itself I think like the shoulder cannon is probably my favorite part with the three red dots are just and my favorite part of the movie is when what's a guy who always shaves his face all the man they play by Billy Duke yeah before you get to there I like how they had a little relationship with Jesse Ventura's character like they were kind of the closer together yeah I love when when he's trying to find him and everything and he and you see the laser just go up on him and they do that shot from the back of the head where just his head explodes onto the camera yeah that when I first saw it because the thing is there isn't that much like there's a couple scenes before that that are gory not too bad but that was the first scene I think in the whole moon because there was the skin guys but you see that you don't actually see the carnage of it sure this is just blood yeah flying into the camera like and it was like nasty looking and then there's that guy with the like the chest that's all like I forget which character was but like that his chest was like hollowed out over his body and I've never seen that as a kid I was at a pretty young age I mean this came out with 87 I mean I saw it some time on video after that and I remember seeing when that body gets turned around there's like chest as how old I was like oh yeah whoa then Dillon's arm yeah just come on firing the gun boy yeah yeah that was kind of shocking to see yeah I was right after a max character who's killed yeah because that was it there was some character development at like with that no one like Carl Weathers characters you like the CIA consultant outside they didn't totally trust so that and then they hadn't learned the trust and as they're fighting for their lives so yeah did they kept some character development as much as I could with a group of seven guys getting killed one by one and so yeah he turns around and is gone hmm and then I think he Spears and oh and the band that was awesome too like if they went through it's just so cool in the in the predator like everything he has and they expand on in the later ones I I actually predator 2 is the first one I saw because it was just on TV and I didn't know what I was watching good the second one when I went into when I went into this one I kind of wish I saw this one first just because the reveal of everything it is that I don't feel like people get nowadays you you can't go you know like you said earlier to everybody knows what the predator looks like everyone the predator is he can't really recreate that unless it's like you're going completely fresh I've never heard of this going into it I think I read that the opening shot of the predator ship spaceship that was I think put in later on so if you didn't have that ship shot [ __ ] shot coming in to earth you would have you don't know yeah yeah something was out honestly I think your honor if they kept it out they really should have left that out yeah yeah because because somewhere that ship it is still on the planet somewhere way the best way to like yeah it's like just like you said you gotta show this to somebody who hasn't heard of it yet like try to start with this you gotta start them early it's like yeah show to it show to your kids yeah nothing to do with I mean I think maybe 13 I mean this oh yeah I say like I some parental guidance for sure I mean there's some point that if this is my half favorite Arnold movie oh yeah absolutely Wow because he's not a superhero yes the guy in trouble trying to figure out is actually smart in this movie ain't trying to keep the unit together not go nuts and made my decision I like the whole military structure of this movie because it's probably as realistic as you can get in a normal movie yeah and the way they all act like they act like they're all kind of nuts a little bit but that's just there's there's in that moment they're so heated up I feel like that's probably how they'd act I mean I don't know these guys aren't much too trained they're the best of the best but yeah this is the team that the government I guess sent you know they're like a mercenary team I just like up yeah and it works like like you said Arnold isn't invincible at all in this none of them are they're they're all the kind of guys that you would see in any other movie each one and they would be just wasting everything and they do for the first 20 minutes of the film and then they are vulnerable and you don't I guess that's another thing you don't really see Arnold in in that kind of area like unless it's like another movie that's not an action outright but he's scared he's hot he's horrified like he's trying to hold his team together and keep them like and even he's like holy [ __ ] we might die like you ever see Arnold where he's not just you know like every other movie uh commando him just spray and bullets making one-liners murdering people and then making jokes about it but this is never Dutch is a very real person yes okay that's why it's almost like this is the most acting moral does in this movie yes not being he's being a regular person almost as much as a couple trained commando could be and he gets manhandled by this creature yeah he gets his ass kicked yeah it's like spitting blood out and everything every time you launched and stuff huh and and plus his traps that he had out he didn't outmuscle the predator he outsmarted the predator yeah yeah exactly the closest precursor I've seen there's a movie called the most dangerous game from like 1932 I think and it basically was like that set in the jungle with with traps and trying to outsmart each other but the person doing the the stalking was not a nailing it was a he was a human yeah who liked who wanted to hunt who got bored of hunting animals so when a hunt people as the next as like the the next sport basically people that have trapped on his Island was that what it was yeah they tried he like he guides ships to get stranded he causes them to get stranded on the island and then he hunts him in the jungle and he says if you could last until midnight or whatever you're or no it starts at midnight it's like if you could last until morning then you're free to go so yeah it's a good movie as like the historical precursor yeah that cover by the way that the picture of Arnold that was from they used it on contra oh yeah yeah they just really the one thing is on to everybody thinks that the other guy Lance is uh is Sylvester Stallone but it's really just another picture of Arnold Eastern it's yeah it's well it's both Arnold but they just put like longer hair and then they kept they basically kept that the same and then my Idol gear is Kyle yes hi already you know they just yeah I guess that's the I mean I've done things like that to where I've taken pictures and just kind of redid them but mm-hmm so the legacy of predator you want to say action horror movies nausea the three or four predator movies and the alien versus Predator crossovers I guess it's it's such a such a almost like a one-shot for love for a movie it's kind of hard to make movies like this yeah it's it also reveal anything all of a sudden halfway through it's now a horror movie yeah so are an action movie even though I don't mind predator 2 there's really no real sequel this I mean they could they could not match this first no predator twos have been goofy it's got some fun stuff in it but no it's pretty damn good actually I won the first predator is that no that could that would make any sense actually I'm waiting for the I'm waiting for the the like Terminator 3 where they ignore everything you know me too I'm waiting for this or like or an older predator hunts an older Dutch and originally there was sort of a plan that really happened with that I believe no one more time to miss Thomas they wanted to do that I do feel like we missed out on a predator three because don't you feel like there could have been a third one at least before they started like you know doing predators then the predator rather just the thing is nowadays I just don't fit I feel like those movies are just because oh hey we need to keep the contract going we got to make a predator movie or else we lose it you know it's not like I don't feel like you could recapture this no they they had something brand-new and that's what kind of sucks nowadays is there is no real brand new sure ideas that are being thrown out it's in a book or it's like that's the setting matters a lot so predator 2 is supposed to be la in the distant or 10 years down the line the the jungle is it's almost like its own character in this film it's scary you don't know what you're doing and kudos to John McTiernan team for for filming and such what I heard awful condition and like the jungles in Mexico that like there was problems with the crew if constant food poisoning I heard was like was like a real pro that was one thing let's see the one character that gets gets killed near the ends I can make it I can make it oh yeah he had that wear long sleeves cuz he was laying on the ground it had fire ants so he actually have you said he was pissed because he worked out like everyone else and got ripped and then he'll have like long sleeves on because his whole arm was just eaten man so we're talking the worst worst conditions for you to actually film it yeah it'll the jungle I wonder too like because you know I'm sure they all got paid like when they make a movie like this if they knew what they had like when you have Arnold and you have a bunch of guys like this like did they know predator was gonna be something that we're gonna talk about you know 30-something years later whether even you know like it's just a one-off Arnold film yeah like I always wonder it you know things like this like did they know what what they had going on this idea that they you know a couple people wrote or whatever and and and hey we got these guys in the woods and the aliens and you know it's it's such a crazy yeah became such a classic film mm-hmm that it's its iconic when it comes to action films you just don't see it anymore you can't recreate it no the guys nowadays just don't do yeah also just a fun fact if there's a scene where like you know the helicopter gets like stuck in a tree or whatever and it's like just it's just in there in the tree it's still there today apparently oh really yeah I mean double check to confirm but I heard that it's actually still there and they don't know what got it there just yeah I mean people have always hit pictures with it and stuff where yeah Jim hoppers people yeah yeah all there the team is dead if you haven't seen it yet predator totally right yeah if you if you haven't seen it what the hell are you doing right now yeah you don't need to watch the first one really yeah that's it I mean yeah it's sad mm-hmm it's almost sad do the doing oh yeah okay you son of a [ __ ] pushing too many pencils [Music] [Music] [Music]

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Published: Fri Nov 01 2019