Pokemon Version Differences: Gold & Silver vs HeartGold & SoulSilver

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yeah we're doing Gentoo misses every makes just in time for the virtual console release we see that was a month ago Oh anyway Holcomb SoulSilver arguably the most universally loved games in the whole series but how exactly do they square up to the originals well that's what this series is all about the videos in the series covering remakes are mostly made to focus on the changes between the generations but I will be taking a look at what differences that are within HeartGold and SoulSilver as well as with the last video I'll try not to rehash all the differences that also applies to the original so again I would recommend going back and watching the video that I did solely covering generation 2 to better understand this video so again we'll begin with what I like to call the inevitable changes a big portion of this is very similar to the same segments in the last video so this pas is gonna be shorter than last time it's basically how the games were bound to be different from the originals because they would develop for the DS instead of the gameboy color so obviously the graphic sounds in the way that the game runs are going to be far more advanced if you want to listen to the section in more detail then go back to the fire and LeafGreen video I know it seems lazy but in the long term you will thank me because it saves a good three or four minutes of babbling we covered this in more depth in the last video but by the time of generation 4 individual values had replaced the term invaluable and tier when it came to determining stats on that Chinese no longer determined by the pokemons TVs but by the personality value which also controls the pokemons ability in nature which are new features introduced in Gen 3 Pokemon characteristics have also been carried over from sin oh they don't really do anything other than just hi and taught your pokemons highest status I didn't actually know that until a few years ago and I just assumed it was some random bit of text meant to give your Pokemon more personality or something like if the point of characteristics ever even mentioned in game I don't think it is generation 2 you had 251 moves that's one wild coincidence but in general the total has been brought up to 467 meeting the HeartGold and SoulSilver have a huge 216 more moves to play around with this human hm list is the same as in say no save defog being replaced by whirlpool pokemon lenses differ from the originals because they've been updated what they were in the sin against a whole bunch of new items introduced in genestein for also presents in the game you've got the feeling ribbons coming back from sin Oh given out by the day of the week siblings along with their regular race moves from genteel with a couple tweaks of course seals also return and you can get three random ones per day from a girl in olivine city in the original video for genteel I talked about how the sprites differed between gold and silver however this is a future that they later abandoned with paired releases and the sprites are the same between the two remakes carrying on with the series standard there's now the optional female character Lyra crystal was actually the first game to introduce this feature with Chris but both of the playable characters were significantly redesigned Ethan still resembles the gold from the originals but Chris and Laura seem to be two completely different characters the whole game has been adopted to the DSS double screen display - for example when walking around the overworld is on the top screen and the bottom screen has the main menu or ambassador battlefields on the top screen and the options on the bottom and finally arguably one of the most significant changes that came with being a game that takes place after Diamond and Pearl would be the legendary physical special move split you've probably heard about this and lots of videos before so I'll make it quick there are two types of damaging moves physical and special the amount of damage these moves do is tie to the pokemons physical and special attack starts respectively in Gen 3 and below certain types and all their moves either fell into one of the two categories so for example a move like bite a doc type move was classed as special because the doc type was a special attacking tape which is kind of stupid because bite is almost certainly a physical move so with the physical special split moves are now grouped into these categories by whether or not they make contact not by their type this was pretty game-changing and it helped a lot of Pokemon out while really hurting some others but it changed a competitive scene forever and hey just like that we're onto the actual juicy version differences I'm not gonna go through everything version exclusive the parallels the original game so if you want to here again go to the first video on Gen 2 the intros have been completely revamped and don't resemble the original intros at all the stop screen does resemble the original somewhat but that's about it the original intro for golden Silva is probably my favorite of the whole series but the remakes had so many staggering visuals that really set the bar high for later games in kissing differences the note would be that the beginning visual differs between the two visions featuring lugia against the moon and ho against the Sun with Sun and Moon really foreshadowed that long ago the segment featuring suicune is also different to install silver the image moves down toward the seat represent the themes of soul silver and in her cold it moves upward toward the sky representing hot gold seems hot gold and soul silver made far fewer tweaks to the version exclusive pokemon them firered/leafgreen did before them of Kanto and Johto Pokemon the only change made was having the overnight line only in hot gold and the Kabuto aligned only and saw silver you find the fossil through smashing random rocks at the ruins of alph the fossils weren't even in the original so it's better than nothing right in the first game there are Pokemon available from gen 3 and 4 with some of them being split up between games hardcore gets the balls away and honoureth lines stable like a yoga Montague and Gliscor soul silver gets the gold pin and the leap lines as well as more while and Groudon so how gold actually gets to more than soul silver but only because they're additions the lines that were already version exclusive to begin with the only change made to the Joe so pokedex was the addition of five Pokemon evolutions the reason they did this might be confusing considering what they did with the evolutions in FireRed and LeafGreen but it was another case of well what else could they have done if I Pokemon evolutions that they added will want to evolve from Pokemon already in the johto Dex do level up plus certain moves it's like the only other alternatives would have been prevent those Pokemon from learning those moves until the postgame suo quit and we can't be bothered taking the Pokemon that they evolved from out of the main story it's weird seeing Gen 4 Pokemon in the regional Dex but just about anything's better than the stupid solution they came up with a fire and LeafGreen so I'll take it the Pokedex says look is completely different with more options available and new bits of information like the pokemons type is shown there's also the national dex mode obtained post-sleep 4 which allows you to register entries for older generation 3 & 4 pokemon fortunately Game Freak learned from generation 3 and didn't enforce a ridiculous trade restriction completely preventing you from playing through the game with other region Pokemon without cheating so stupid with the nature of remakes Pokemon distributions across Kanto and Johto largely stay the same with some Pokemon changing here and then oh the area is now offering generation three and four Pokemon later on in the game these two and the legendary birds and now available in their original locations from gen 1 and 3 with Moltres and mount silver instead you also get a choice of one of the county of sauces after beating grudge in a postgame you get a hoe and saucer from Steven to the weather trio are available latias and Lazio is now Rome hot gold and soul silver respectively that's a law and we're not even counting the events main story differences is a tricky subject because while these games are seen as remakes of gold and silver and truth they're a must remake of all three games gold silver and crystal aren't all that different in terms of story with there being a new character using and more emphasis put on suicune this carries over to HeartGold and SoulSilver and it's basically the same as it wasn't crystal in that regard but instead of being cool to tint our sweet gunas bottles at route 25 the other two legendary beasts from Jerez before your male or female counterpart now actually plays a role in the story you don't battle you they're just there they make you leave crowns though your purpose from this day forth is to weave these weird gold things I found into pretty crowns the kimono girls now play a much larger role than they did before with you encountering them all throughout the story under the summoning of lugia oh hello they know will use the same sprite whereas in gem - there were three variants you also battled them later on in the game and replacing the vessel earlier on is one against the Team Rocket grunts in the dance theater the legendary summoning thingy is a much bigger deal in these games because actually required to progress in the game and to be able to challenge the Elite Four whereas before you could just do it whenever you wanted the Team Rocket admins actually have names and unique designs my favorite is proton the clear in title bells and that required for you to summon your vision mascot as well as the respective feather I don't really know how to order these but Huckle and SoulSilver had a massive amount of new features fire and leafgreen had the Sevi i also explore but being able to work with the massive postgame content that gold and silver already had improving it and then putting in arguably some of the best love features in pokemon history really cemented these games as fan favorites so I guess let's go right from the main menu with the pokewalker this is a little device of pure beauty when I first got install silver I took in just about every with me for some reason the Pokemon that I'd always have in it was this random Ellicott I was never even that big on elekid it's okay but all the fun memories of the pokewalker have made me like it a lot more and even if you're not into Pokemon this University study shows it's actually one hacking accurate pedometer makes you think and we get to the Big Cheese of the new features following Pokemon I genuinely believe that this feature for the most part single-handedly push Huckle and SoulSilver up to the pedestal that they share today that's not to say that without the speeches they're not good games because they are but when you ask someone why their favorite game is heart gold and soul silver chances are they'll say something like oh because Pokemon follow you almost every time and well it was beautifully pulled off I especially like how Pokemon actually retain their shininess when they follow you since it's always bugged me that they appear normal in the menu sprites so now we'll look at the additions made to the region's Kanto and Johto so poke Athlon this place is beautiful main series Pokemon has never really stood out for its minigames but they blew away all expectations with this in the poke Athlon you can peace and athletic events with your Pokemon my favorites events would probably be the relay run and love jump soar to the heavens my child I hate pendent capture though by competing in more courses you can earn points to exchange for items as you progress you also gain access some more rooms in the dome and cool trophies you get to display I feel like I've achieved so big for the first time the battle frontier from platinum is now located where crystals battle tower was and is essentially unchanged however once you get to Siam wood city you'll find it as a cave leading to an entirely new area the new view 47 has cliff cave which leads onto the embedded Tower which is where you can catch the weather trio in the postgame it also has these two special trainers route 48 leads onto the new Johto Safari Zone it really sucks that they didn't bring back the Safari zone after HeartGold and SoulSilver but they rounded up the tradition with arguably the best one yes this place has so many areas that you can customize and the Pokemon that you can potentially find here are ridiculous wild beldam matang riolu lap Breloom and she'll gone nuts just to name a few pal Park returns from sin oh and takes the place of the unused safari zone in fuchsia City the global terminal from platinum is also in these games and des stacked on to the far side of goldenrod and the goldenrod tunnel you can dress up your Pokemon using decorations from cirno's contests which you get randomly from a hiker for 100 polka dots another returning location from Cinna would be the Wi-Fi Plaza this was a place where you could play minigames ride floats and interact with other players another side because when they shut down the Wi-Fi services for the DES a few years ago it meant that we have to say goodbye to this place forever with the new editions covered whether any other changes made to other locations well yeah new park town is essentially the same this house is now home to your rival or give your friends seriously what even are they professor Elms lab now has an open section yes that's good at least he doesn't have to sleep on the cold floor of his lab anymore wind moves cherry groove has the secret section where you can find the super secret Pokemon after getting rock climb viola says he now has one big pond instead of 232 and also in goldenrod city for that matter you can see the magnet train line Huckle and SoulSilver take after crystal and half the expanded ruins of alph National Park has a secret area like Cherry Grove San wood City has this little thing returned from Crystal because it's west we can stop during a cutscene the lake of Rage also has two different looks on Wednesday it looks like it did in gold and silver but every other day of the week it rains and floods the area and so different paths trainers and items are accessible depending on when you go Dragon's Den is the same as it is in Crystal Monde Silva has been vastly expanded from the originals which makes sense considering it's now home to Moltres the lowest section is the one that you have to navigate to get some Moltres whereas the new sections of the mountain have to be passed to get to Red Mountain Morton now has a new entrance which is where you get the dubious disk the first seafoam island can actually be entered now as Articuno is in the game but the layout is vastly different to how it was in gens 1 and 3 cerulean cave has also opened up with a new layout for you to go and catch Mewtwo Rock tunnels layout has changed in dickless cave now has an open section accessible by rock climb and the originals meridian forest was pretty much non-existent and had become a tree maze it was part of routine but in the remix it was a separate and much more developed area once more with the addition of the Pokemon League reception gate route 23 was pretty much entirely replaced with the exception of this tiny strip between the Pokemon League in victory Road while gold and silver still classified this is a root in the remix it was officially wiped off the map route 25 has this new elevated platform because that's West weak in his battle now the pizza museum and the bike shop were closed off in the originals but now are accessible I think that does it but the new additions beyond the usual oh this looks prettier this section is all the changes that don't really fit anywhere else so I'm going to pretend that they have a category of the room this we got the Polka gear which had huge changes even just aesthetically the interface for all sections has been completely redesigned and you can even give it new looks with various themes like in the originals you can add people's numbers gold and silver had a limit to how many numbers you could store but in the remakes it's unlimited and for this reason you can't delete numbers either apparently in the originals you couldn't decline a coal which sounds awful because I don't want to be trapped into listening to Joey hey go on about his Rattata for an eternity a few of the Trina's registered different between the versions but they're mostly unchanged rematch polls now only happen after the radio tower attack and if you like me you can't be bothered waiting you can just call them yourself and get a rematch that way the radio has a ton of new features lots of changes were made to the radio broadcasts lots of programs to return but the broadcast times have been switched around to make space for new stations storms return in these games and they're announced you the radio oh but Toros returned from the originals because it's now on route 48 instead and a whole new list of Pokemon now sworn Kanto and Johto possibly my favorite new thing about the updated poker gear would be the Hoenn encino sound which you can play to attract select pokemon from hone and Sinnoh Sinnoh sound also attracts meditite for whatever reason you believe in yourself meditate if you want to be a gen 4 pokemon then golly gosh you can be a gen 4 pokemon the places in people show is renamed to town channel and now talks about the top three parts of random places in Kanto and Johto oh my gosh guys I've been doing it wrong for like the past two years forget top tens top three is where it train approvals is a new show where they describe different training classes when Espace blood prizes are slightly different and the whole channel has been mixed into the new variety channel along with two new shows Pokemon search party and serial radio drama which as they suggest a Pokemon themed documentaries and dramas the mysterious transmission now increases a chance fee to encounter uncle unknown in the ruins of alph the lucky number and pokedex shows are exclusive to Gen 2 and finally the Past archive is a new show that plays old tunes from generation to after you get the G B sounds key item which brings us on to set key item this item is I love it when you use this item it transforms all the music that you hear into generation 2 style tunes here's a clip from my SoulSilver demonstrating the effect [Music] the best part is it works for locations that weren't even in the originals so you get to imagine what places like the global terminal poke Athlon down and such would sound like in Gen 2 [Music] ah it's so beautiful a nice little feature they added would be Cameron the photographer this is a new character that shows up throughout the story and offers to take pictures of you and your Pokemon you get to save these pictures in your PC and it's cool because if you do it throughout your journey then you can look back on it they grow up so fast the area pictures return from firered and leafgreen but this time change depending on the time of day as with the nature of remakes NPC placements names and teams are mostly unchanged but there is the odd one here and there that's different or even new one set it in on a similar note gym leaders and other significant characters have similar teams but have some Pokemon as well as moves and levels tweaked in some places the layouts of some of the gyms do say the same whereas of this drastically change Gym Leaders themselves now play a much bigger role side of the gyms than they previously did you can now register the phone numbers by being in the right places at the right times if you call them at exactly the right time then you can challenge them to a rematch saffron city's fighting dojo is given more of a purpose by serving as Kanto and Johto answer to the battleground once the gym leader accepts your challenge they'll just stay there until you battle them that is their entire life's purpose from that day forth it's quite sad actually they have teams at much higher levels and then the main story with new Pokemon from generations 3 & 4 as well heart gold and soul silver take after the Sinnoh games but their beautifully crafted events actually wait scratch that the events in this game are actually several times better when I love sin Oh first up we've got the Enigma stone latias and Latios our vision exclusive Roma's but with the Enigma stone you get to encounter the other one in pewter City this is the only event that I actually got on my game and believe it or not I left laughs yes waiting in my soul silva for nearly 5 years because i wanted to be special and shiny hunter and five years later i did just that it was for my 2,000 subscribers special actually how time flies right it only took me like 25,000 Azar's then this Arceus and scindia ruins by taking an event osseous to the ruins of alph you get to access the mysterious senjo ruins this crazy cutscene plays with real-world images shown for the first and only time in the whole series and boom it's a giant egg what it's hatching into one of the creation tree oh yeah it's kind of weird then there's a Pikachu call it Pichu event it's a shiny Pichu and if you take it to the ilex forest dry and then it will trigger an event that lets you obtain the spiky a Pichu a special form that's only in this game you can't transfer it because of side-effects of it having traveled through time moe like Game Freak couldn't be bothered to update it graphically through later games am i right I think I'm a lot more cynical these days and finally this is Celebi event that's triggered if you take an event Celebi to the same shrine this transports you back in time to when Team Rocket was defeated at the hands of red it gave fans the first solid proof that silver was indeed Giovanni's own Sun then your rocketed back in time to the golden rod take over to battle Giovanni and prevent him from returning to lead Team Rocket's again event wise it's definitely a fan favorite and it's easy to see why of course there are more events like the shiny beasts but these are all the ones that go beyond just getting an amazing Pokemon and carrying on with your day speaking of which the function of mystery gift has changed drastically from the originals and now you pretty much only get event Pokemon from it on a similar note to these events if you have a shame in and bring it in to the goldenrod flower shop a small event will play out and you'll receive the grass idea to get shame in sky form here's a cheeky one game corner if I happen to be Japanese and we wouldn't be here because Japanese games aren't different in this regard but Huckle and SoulSilver are the last games in the series for the game corner Japan got theirs just fine but outside Japan the arcade machines we all knew and loved we were replaced with Voltorb flip I actually hate this game it's all because of regulations set in place by Peggy because apparently harmless with lockheed games in a Pokemon game promotes gambling oh no around the johto region you've got a loss of berry trees with the trees on route 37 and 42 providing an apricot of each color however in the remakes the berry trees were all made to grow apricots instead making them more readily available as the berries the new berry pots key item was introduced as a solution apricots now occupy the space of the apricot bag instead of being individual items they also have a new use you can blend them and give the drink to your Pokemon to improve its performance in the book apple on the bag was also redesigned and has a ton of pockets to sort out your items the bag now has unlimited space which is a beautiful feature I am very grateful for something I am NOT grateful for is the fact that HeartGold and SoulSilver are the final games in the series to have a Pokeball pocket in the bag and generation 5 they just grouped in with the regular items on it annoys me to no end please tell me it isn't just me the party interface in summary have been drastically redesigned from the originals having more sheets of info like ribbons and the new PO Cathal on Sat page the running shoes returned as a series standard but in these games you can have them permanently on the trades are mostly the same as they were in gold and silver with a couple from crystals Ronin the Aerodactyl trade is gone because you can actually restore Aerodactyl yourself now and the rapidash trade is just gone why is that dodrio named Doris there is a way worn true Doris there are also some new trades that you can make with some of the gym leaders to move to --'tis are now located in the frontier access and teach a wide variety of moves some items you can find in these games are in the same locations as in Gen 2 whereas others are completely new some music is altered for example the mascots now have their own themes which they did in Gen 2 I'll play a snippet from them both because they're really cool you're welcome [Music] the legendary beasts retained their themes but they have slight variations with the instrumentals depending on which one you encounter sénéchaux island has its own theme now which is a slow of business sweet version of its theme for the generation one and three games and now they're really random quickfire stuff you can't decorate your room anymore stationary pokemon regenerate if you can't catch them after you beat the Elite Four you can fly to the Pokemon League now heads book is now taught by a move tutor instead of by TM upon your first encounter your arrival is now known as passerby boy instead of question what question mark question mark breeding mechanics have changed to pass down three guaranteed IVs as the Pokemon holds a certain item oh I guess Masuda method is nothing to count from the Trina house is now in a strainer tin tower is now called bell tower Kanto and Johto been altered to make use of the rock smash and rock climbing jams Gym Leaders give out TMS apparently they didn't before you can see a Kanto badges now on the trainer card as two sides like in previous games with earnable stars and fancy colors whistle a house has been revamped with fancy camera angles on the new balconies SS oculus trainers can't be read battles anymore but catching contest has more Pokemon and prizes mat moon is way smaller now the credits in this game are gorgeous you get to cosplay as Team Rocket in the main story and all the NPC's treat you like a criminal you can check the rumors on the poker game app you can register two items now Rotom room diplomas for the giotto and national dex i don't have the national one because i'm lazy and last of all the boys looks so good in this game but that's it for HeartGold and SoulSilver version differences i know for a lot of you watching these are probably a favorite games so i hope i did them justice I really underestimated how many changes they make in a remake this was a really big video even for my standards and I worked really hard on it like my raw audio for this was three hours long and that's not even counting the countless hours that it takes me to edit it down next in this series will probably be Ultra Sun and Moon because they're coming out ultra soon it's probably gonna be a really big video so it's a bit daunting wish me luck I'm gonna need it thank you so much to everyone who sent in the hard work featured in this slighty thing ok thanks for watching bye
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Channel: CandyEvie
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Keywords: Pokemon, Pokemon trivia, version differences, version differences remakes, pokemon facts, version differences soulsilver, version differences heartgold, differences between gold and silver and heartgold and soulsilver
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Length: 25min 13sec (1513 seconds)
Published: Sun Nov 05 2017
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