Poke Tea Time After Hours | Feat. The Poke Jew

[Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] oh [Music] beginning yeah then we will [Music] what was that oh oh oh here we go we're live yo what is good let me turn off the music hey guys you know we're still new we're still new what's up what's up guys welcome to uh pokey tea time welcome to pokey tea time my name's jizzy and i'm shivam aka not chevron and pokey tea time is our podcast where we cover the spiciest topics in the pokemon community and you know give our little hot take on it right shawn yeah we always like to add our little hot flare to stuff a little spicy spicy you know uh most people love us some people just a little bit not not the biggest fans but i do um love the support the pokemon community has given us in this past couple of weeks that we have been doing this so thank you everyone um but how are you doing shivam how are you doing today i'm doing all right oh yeah yeah yeah don't spill any of that tea you have there kind sir it's lemonade lemonade okay okay um but yeah today we have something special for y'all and we i kind of ruined the surprise with the uh title and everything on social media as well but we have one of the most credible okay one of the forefronts of the pokemon um hobby per se and i would say pretty knowledgeable if i do say so myself the tick tock phenomenon if y'all haven't seen that last tick tock literally made me do a tick talk and something show has been trying to convince me for the past three months probably longer longer okay yeah but we have hold on jaboom the pokey jew himself what's up what's going on guys what's up what's up yeah so but sure what do we have planned for today let them know so we have our legendary guest of pokeju today and he is here to literally spill the tea in regards to a lot of the main topics that we've been covering uh in the past but in this case it's his perspective it's his hot take because he has far more superior he has far more experience than you and i um he's been here since 2017 within the pokemon community uh like you said he is he's part of the forefront of this hobby himself um so welcome here pokey jew welcome thank you thank you guys i appreciate that yeah i really do so michael uh tell us a little bit about yourself uh i am self-employed as of this moment i recently quit my i didn't quit i formally submitted my resignation to my the old 9-5 job i used to be an i.t technician now you know with pokemon as a side hobby and i now just recently decided to jump into the hobby full time and put in my two weeks and you know 100 commitment to the hobby and you know just a whirlwind of stuff ever since you're living the dream everybody in the chat right now that's that's like everybody's probably like dude whoa i mean i know i am yeah i'm i'm very impressed so like what what got you back into pokemon collecting like did you ever stop like what brought you back in 2017 like what actually brought you back into pokemon so i actually like i started collecting collecting again in mid 2016. it was around the time i think xy breakthrough or breakpoint was out and my little sister was opening packs at the kitchen table and watching unlisted leaf videos uh while doing it and i just like immediately that was like the first time i've seen anyone opening pokemon cards since i was a kid and i just immediately like was like interested and jumped in and you know was opening packs with her and then i started doing research and i bought a flash fire box and pulled both the secret rare charizard and uh mega charizard out of the same box and ever since then like yeah you said your sister little sister yeah my little sister so you were like that big brother that like the next day hey i got more products for us to open yeah yeah like you know i went over to my parents house to visit and you know she was opening pokemon cards at the table and i immediately was like what's this man that's an awesome story right there she's probably like it ever since best big brother like for the year right yeah yeah i mean it turned into an obsession because after you don't say yeah well it's like i just non-stop research because when i if you go back and scroll to my very first post ever it's complete sets ungraded sets of the completed crystal skyridge sets and acropolis and all the first edition shinings and all the gold stars and i had been collecting for over a year before i even knew about the instagram community so i had already completed like several goals that i wanted to do and i you know i learned about i don't know i think pallet town pokemon was one of the first people i ever interacted with on instagram um okay and a few other people but um i just did research and bought tons of cards some of the best cards you can get at insanely cheap prices compared to you know what you can get now i bought a first edition psa seven charizard for 700 bucks i was just about to guess i was just about to guess um yeah i was kind of close i was going to say when you when you got back into the hobby at what point did you start noticing like the success behind what you were doing at what point did you realize like this is popping off for me i think it was probably when i started getting interest from unlisted leave and other like you know poketubers where they started to like reach out with me reach out to me and like you know wanting to do business and buy products i think it was at that point where you know things really started to take off ever since i did i did several enlisted leaf videos with him you know where i supplied product and he you know did a big old opening and everybody went crazy wow and ever since then this thing's just been repeatedly popping off with other stuff as well and when was your what was your what was like when was your first interaction with ando like when was your first interaction with unlisted leaf like was that recent was that this year or was that like last year the year before it was last year probably early last year i would say okay would you say that was like after worlds or before worlds it was before worlds okay that's pretty cool i guess worlds is another good example of you know when i realized you know things were starting to get big like i had people just walk up to me and recognize who i was and say hey i follow your instagram and you know i really love your content yeah yeah because i've been following you for quite some time i think like my first interaction with you was i just got back into the hobby i bought uh i bought a psa 9 expedition charizard card and i was like hey man can you help me out with like this raffle thing you were like buzz off but like in a more respectful way like you don't have credibility and at that point i was like okay this guy's a business like i gotta i gotta you know i gotta grow my reputation within the pokemon community i gotta you know create a lot of trustworthiness and whatnot and so i took a lot of notes from your book and so um that's part of the reason why we wanted to have you uh as uh our first guest yeah um i appreciate that and yeah i mean it's it i probably did at one point yeah and it's you know a lot of people think that there's just a secret recipe to get followers and to get you know to get people to you know be interested in what you're doing and there isn't you know you just have to be in the community you just have to be doing your thing putting yourself out there like you know i didn't just you know spin around and become the pokey jew like it took a long time to get to where we are now yeah you're almost at 20 000 followers on instagram too i mean yeah and i'm happy with that i'm very happy with that i'll touch on that as far as like the youtube side um a lot of content creators believe that oh the algorithm doesn't like me that's really not it i've i've um watched a lot of big influencers um and especially mr beast um i watched a big interview that he did with some low he's like it's not it's not the algorithms look at the numbers like he grinds it out he he focuses on what people want to see what people want to hear it's not about if you have you know it's not about if you have the special sauce for the algorithms that's not it it's yeah just look at the numbers just look at the content content is king if you're if you're producing at scale then you're doing relatively well like you know i mean i remember i remember when i first followed um michael here he was i think was like last year he was at 5 000 followers at that time he's had 20 000. i mean he's just started out on tech talk and now he's starting to grow relatively pretty fast you're going you're going you're doing pretty well for yourselves um yeah it's just it just goes like i know i know don't worry about it i'll push it off i'll brush it off for you hold up wait you're right here i can't okay never mind i try to brush your shoulder but you know um what you were saying is is actually correct it like you look at leon hart for example p a lot of people don't know leonhard actually has hundreds of videos that only have like maybe a max of a thousand views like early early on like he spent a lot of time making content before he actually got noticed and like really started to get a following behind him so yeah like you were saying the algorithm is just a myth i think it's just all about the grind 100 100 i'll ask one i'll ask one spicy question okay should have since you're over there asking all the you know questions uh here's a good one how much michael how much okay listen here how much would it cost to sell off everything you own as far as pokemon goes not like not like you know your house or anything but like just like my collection your collection pokemon is there a number i mean you don't have to answer don't don't feel free to answer but you know i'm just wondering you know because somebody may buy it i'm just kidding well let's say that my collection i didn't pay for what my collection is worth now um but i mean if i put everything i haven't actually sat down and done like the numbers but i would say you know i'm probably borderlining seven figures jesus something like that okay okay okay the way i look at it is i i you know i sold my collections a thousand times over to get the money to recycle rebuild repeat recycle you know i tell this to a lot of people all the time about you know the ancient city of rome rome as a civilization didn't rise to power just like that their their city was burnt to the ground a million times before they actually became a superpower i i use that a lot was not built in a day i always use that phrase that's a good analogy it is it's solid i do that when i like start working out and then i'll start like you know showing off obviously i'm not an intimidating person but i'll just let people know rome wasn't building today so calm down you know what i'm saying but i love that phrase i do love that so i'm glad you mentioned that um the chats say the chat's saying one uh what is it one billion one billion by christmas oh they're saying your your follower account will be a hundred thousand by christmas yeah you got a lot wow you got a lot of fans like they're not even here for us anymore pokey jew dang okay cool that's cool that's exactly what happens i had my friend amanda on here and everybody was amanda fans people want to hear what the jew has to say oh and that's what we're gonna get to okay okay prepping it up so i think that's a good segue into uh what we're what we're here for right um we're going to go ahead and go ahead and touch on this so sort of um oh oh wait yeah yeah let's this needs to be customary pinkie's up we need pinkies up okay okay thank you thank you guys so um kind of kind of uh just a like we we all saw as as audience members we all saw all the lives that happened right but i'm assuming that your experience predates any of these sort of transactions that occurred any of these lies that occurred and you possibly could have had interactions with some of these people that were involved so um sort of sort of walk us through um this entire sort of incident and what happened before and then um what happened afterwards and your just your opinions or what your perspective is in regards to this and so are we talking about yeah the whole situation in regard sorry just to clarify we're talking about the dumb money box break um the purchase of that box um the red flags that were associated with the box itself um stuff like that yeah uh yeah so that was definitely a fiasco for sure um and it was something that i think you know was going to happen i i i don't want to say that i didn't foresee it happening that i but i i foresaw it happen and these are the reasons why uh i you know me and charizard king 24 went live on my instagram i don't know like a month ago and kind of talked about it a little bit but we were going to buy that same exact box that collectibles guru had acquired and sold to dumb money tv cracked live ended up being fake um i think we had an initial offer like i never spoke to the seller the the guy who supposedly resealed the box i was never in communication with him i guess his name is don i was in communication with brian the whole time okay brian was the the transporter shall we say oh huge donald huge is his name i just remembered i did a segment on him donald yeah donald hughes i seen the posts on facebook about like all these facebook groups removing him about the whole incident but i was i had the deal set in stone with brian you know with dons being in agreeance with it that me and charizard king were gonna go out to him and we knew the box looked funny like we we both knew that there was something off with the box but the price was very very cheap and so we were like all right we will happily pay the money um excuse me we just um want to open it before we pay because you know we pointed out the issues that we saw with it there was a scratch on the side of the box that didn't have you know matching damage to the seal the the seams along the sides of the box looked just did they just didn't look authentic and the flaps the or the the folds on the top part of the box were obviously you know worn and it wasn't even like a freshly opened box that was like that was a used and abused box that was resealed wow but we were we agreed to about 125 000 for that box wow and that was this year right that was this year yeah it was earlier this year's the same dumb money box and we were set to meet i was supposed to go and drive out to brian open the box and if it was real he would have been paid and then charizard king and i would have did something with the pax you know something maybe like sell them or something um but then a day later i get a call from brian and he says oh sorry don said to go meet collectibles guru at the airport in pennsylvania because i guess he came in and offered a hundred and fifty five thousand dollars in crypto i remember seeing that tick tock which at the time was over record so you know he clears they just had the much bigger offer in crypto slash cash right he was able to get the box yeah about a month or two later that's when the whole dumb money tv thing happened um and so he he held on to that box for quite some time before actually finding a buyer which was dumb money tv yeah wow yeah yeah and i know um like what i personally think about it is i don't i personally don't think that jake collectibles guru resealed the box i think the box was resealed was sold to him resealed because it looked the exact same way right do you oh sorry go ahead there's a lot of like i know i've seen all the youtube videos about people speculating that he did reseal the box and this and that and i don't think he resealed the box yeah but i think he knew it was fake and i think he was just kind of riding it and hoping that it was going to be real because a lot of youtubers like the bigger ones pointing out you know how he immediately went into defense mode about the backstory of the box before you know they opened it because they said they were going to open it so do you think oh sorry uh just sorry to interrupt you so like um with so he was he was basically told uh about all of these sort of red flags and he sort of just went into the situation knowing good and well with the the flat the red flags were um and not just really listening to anyone yeah yeah i mean he was told by multiple people about all the red flags um i know even people who would have bought it at the time were warned about it and you know opted not to buy it because they had hunches that it was fake as well and you know big name people dumb money tv you know they kind of got suckered because they are inexperienced wealthy people who you know wanted to feed off of the logan paul hype and you know who better to call than logan paul's pokemon expert right that's the guru they even use see okay so they even used the same thumbnail like the same yellow scissors i i even believe that they just cropped out logan paul's face and stuck dumb money's face on it you know if you really look at the thumbnail on the youtube videos it's exactly the same logan and i talked about it a little bit and and yeah they literally just took his exact photo his exact photo and just over and just did it over top and he was laughing you know he was like in all caps l-o-elling about you know guru being the pokemon expert so yeah so like do you think um it's like that segues into like a kind of a different kind of topic right there but is that all we have on the dumb money stuff or is there like something oh sorry yeah do you have any more to say in regards to the whole dun money situation no i just from my perspective being involved in the dealings for that box correct all you know all i can really do is paint a more realistic picture of what sort of happened and what happened was you know obviously stupid and i think it never should have bit went down that way at all and i think guru set himself up badly for it but i don't think that it was intentional i don't think he wanted that to happen i mean nobody wants that to happen who wants to be known you know to the internet as the you know as that now so do you think that it's sort of his responsibility though for doing his due diligence in regards to being a you know at that point sort of a middleman at that point like he it was he had full ownership of that box for quite some time now and he was aware of the red flags do you think that there is some sort of responsibility when you're selling a product because you you've sold plenty of products before like you have more experience than me because i've sold some stuff here and there before but do you have far more experience in that regard so like do you think it's his responsibility to know what he's actually selling especially with the title of guru yeah i mean he that's the thing like he did everything that like once the box was opened and confirmed fake he did everything that he should have done you know he he took an l as far like as far as i know the original box owner is still paying him back so you know i wouldn't be surprised if gru has to deal with legal battles with the original owner to get you know portion of his money back but it's it's definitely a really interesting scenario that happened and i think that you know it wouldn't have happened if guru just did the smart thing that any other expert would have done and open the box before purchasing right afterwards yeah because brian and brian like they were fine with me opening the box but when they i guess you know had a better deal with guru who wasn't going to open the box in front of them they just immediately went with that do you think that speaks to a level of an experience that he has like do you think that he's not necessarily an expert when it comes to this stuff like he he just has like a decent amount of money he just knows what to say and what to do in regards to movements and stuff like that that's exactly it that's exactly it he is painting a picture you know he's he's doing and he's doing a very good job at it because he has a lot of money i think he's doing an immaculate job of it i'm just saying he he is i mean he he knows how to play the marketing game and he knows how to play you know he's sort of semi went viral on tick tock yeah he has about 76 000 followers on tick tock yeah and you know he like the thing is he is famous now for being you know a not pokemon expert and right that's how you know he tried to portray this whole pain you know painting a picture that he is this all-knowing expert that everything that he has and touches his gold and but you know to real experts to people that have been in the hobby and collecting and and have been grinding for like us you know we just we see the fakeness so easily and one thing that he said that really bothered me during the dumb money live was that he brought logan paul into the hobby that he was the main reason why that there was more motion than pokemon than nintendo in the year that's garyvee right what's that it was garyvee right that got logan paul under pokemon yeah yeah but gurus trying to paint this picture that because because what had happened was garyvee hit up logan got him into pokemon and at the time guru had all of those really super sexy first edition shadowless psa nine charizards with the greenery backgrounds or poolside backgrounds on ebay that were heavily overpriced he had them on listing for a long time logan paul being very very wealthy and new to the hobby immediately hits him up you know they get in contact and guru was just fortunate that he had some really good looking pictures on instagram that caught her on ebay that caught logan's attention which you know landed him on a youtube video being portrayed as an expert and then i remember from there guru just you know just painted this picture and rode a wave but it's the fact that he said that he was responsible for that and just totally making up stories you know you know i was talking to alex hodges um the other day and he brought up a point that i brought up in an older podcast episode where um you know someone i mentioned on my tech talk that logan paul is the reason why um this hobby is flourishing or collectibles guru is the reason why this hobby is flourishing i was like honestly it's it's because of collectors like ourselves is why the the hobbies flourishing before any of these people came to this space the hobby was already having an upward trend um it's because of us um we basically created this viable environment for you know investors or influential people or people who are affluent to come into this space to sort of dominate the space with you know lots and lots of money and that's why we're seeing a lot of values go up and so i i just wanted to touch on that um i agree so your in your honest opinion in your professional opinion um as collectors you know whether big or small what what can we do because like at the end of the day like i know that i started from nothing i didn't have a whole lot of pokemon cards or chase cards or anything of the sort but i noticed that as each day progresses or as each month progresses my collection's growing and that's the case for a lot of people who are in here um what can we do as collectors like when we're buying something from ebay or um if we're doing like these sort of pvp sort of person-to-person sort of transactions where um we try to see whether or not something's legitimate or not and then um if we have a booster box or if we have a pack um what can we do to prevent sort of resealing because i know you've had plenty of dealings in regards to reseal packs and stuff like that yeah and it's kind of one of those things where it's really difficult to new collectors to gain that experience without talking to someone who already has experience it's just about you know learning for yourself you know i could exp you know i could do i could spend all day trying to explain you know what to look out for for a resealed pack but it gets the best of everyone you know there there's really good you know fakes out there for for everything and you know i i try and help as many people as i can you know people who ask questions who have advice but for you know just the general collectors in the community you know it's all just about communication ask don't be afraid to ask you know don't don't you know try and act all hot [ __ ] and know what you're talking about when you don't you know it's you can't be afraid to ask and to reach out to people and if you're trying to reach out to someone like me and if i don't answer in time you know do your research find out who other credible people are in the community you know and try and just get information where you can when you can it's just learning get as much knowledge as you can now because it's whoa what was that that was probably skype uh my camera that might have been my camera i don't know no it was it was phasing both of y'all it could be on my end i saw all three of us phased out okay we're back in though right yeah okay i i really think the reason why it did that guys is because you aren't actually liking you know so if you could just smash that like right now all 73 of y'all you know that would be greatly appreciated tell them tell them michael show them tell them smash the like yeah get a hammer and smash that like button guys seriously there it is see this was problem solved anyways um we're talking about so i know you mentioned in your live with uh murphy aka charizard king to like when it comes to open booster boxes whether it's old or new to sort of market whether it's an x or hole punch it um because at the end of the day like it's still displayable um so i just wanted to touch on your opinion in regards to that like does that devalue i mean obviously like if you're keeping a box um you know if you put a hole in it and you um try to sell on ebay does that does that necessarily devalue the box and does it take away from the box at all at that point if you're trying to sell a box as is you're talking just the empty box yeah yeah cause like i know a lot of collectors they want to keep something completely intact right um and even if it does have a hole in it that kind of still takes away from the box itself um do you think that should be the case or not do you think it matters uh i mean me personally you know i'm a i used to be a big advocate for collecting empty product and empty boxes and stuff because a lot of people who want to own boxes [Music] can't because they can't afford it but having an empty box to display in their man room or whatever in their man cave or whatever it can bring in you know an equal amount of happiness but with the level of craziness that all of these resealed boxes are getting into it doesn't hurt to do something to where you know the box can be identified that it has been previously opened and not just by original wear and tear but it's making it universal that's the hard part because there are a lot of people who you know just don't care and you know will you know and it's i can't really you know knock them for that either because you know you're essentially you know you could be drawing sharpie on a thousand dollar empty first edition base box you know yeah so some funny someone in chat said they're like are you opening packs while you're explaining he's professional man he's got to be working you know the whole time opening packs well don't like multitasking man if they just want me to like bust out skyridge packs he's going through skyridge passes calm down michael i went i went live on tech talk earlier today they were like hey from did you see this guy opening skyridge packs on tick tock oh i'm like yeah it's it's it's pokey you should definitely follow him like that isn't that pack like like hundred to fifteen hundred dollars i'm like yeah it's worth that much he's like why is he opening it it's like man the man's the man's a different breed yeah different cloth man i i have a those are and a lot of those videos are old videos too i'm not i don't have like that's a huge misconception that i think it's actually a good time to clear the air a lot of people think that i'm just sitting on a treasure trove of you know like a literal mountain of product and i'm not like i i post i take i vlog you know privately i have a lot of video content that i have made over the years from stuff that i have obtained and collected and have had just for my own personal records you know a lot of pack openings that i've never shown anyone i have lots of pack openings of pulling hollows and non-hollows from various sets and yeah okay none of that has been shown to people so you're not you're not sitting on anything i got you i got you bro well the amount of stuff in my collection is small but the value is is enormous yeah small quite big small a big quality no worries guys don't don't don't be looking for michael just say okay oh no no i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding izzy do you got any questions for michael do i have any um in regards to like what we're saying i do got some like just spicy questions but we um it was part of the intro you know maybe like okay i asked you like one random question you see question time right uh what is the highest value card should i go with highest value or like your favorite card let's go with favorite card what is the poke juice favorite card in his collection my psi 10 first edition shadow is basically okay it's probably the same answer as the highest value card i guess okay second one second second like is there something unique about a certain card that like you just love that you're particular to um i have always been like crazy about first edition shadow's base set i i've always just ever since i started like that was always just my my go-to like nothing beats the originals wow i can respect that i can respect that and specifically first edition and shadowless like because i remember i was opening booster packs when i was eight years old the very first day that they came out in the u.s and they were and they were shadowless packs wow so i remember being a little kid opening [ __ ] like hundreds of shadowless packs and then like a couple of months later unlimited came out and it was like ew these colors are gross like like i was like why did they make gyarados why did they make the background of gyarados purple they didn't keep it blue when you said it reminded me of uh how you know jimmy fallon when he made that skit like ew seriously look at her butt ew that's exactly that's why i laughed i'm sorry either that was me but like being eight years old like i was like eight or nine and being like ew unlimited yeah i only i want shadowless yeah right it does look different it hits differently right it definitely hits differently especially when i look at it okay so i think the oh god oh okay yeah i'll go go ahead yeah you're hugging all the questions shivam okay so one of one of the videos that we made was like what's next and then after i i made that announcement i made it like two weeks prior to logan paul saying he was done right he cannot his endeavors are over he will not spend any more money and i called it i let her call it two weeks ago i'm like this is literally a fling for him but with someone that actually has talked to him you know do you think you could give us an insight on is he actually done because i can put all these people leaving comments under my comment section and just saying stuff you know so can you answer that question for us i can oh yeah yeah uh so you know obviously my teeth first hold up okay yeah okay cheers cheers cheers guys let's put this to rest okay okay so obviously you guys can imagine how much he's spent since joining the hobby yeah oh yeah he's you know he's a collector he's a pokemon collector like he just recently got into the hobby but i'm sure you guys can imagine you know that the money that he has spent on his personal collection that he hasn't you know he has a personal collection that is very very impressive that you know he he hasn't shown the world in his in you know in in all of its glory and he did make a statement on his podcast that did seem very one-sided but you know i think collectors can understand you know he's a wealthy guy he's probably spent an insane amount of money and all like everyone and their mother wants to do some sort of business with him so he probably gets bombarded every single day with people shooting at messages about buying booster boxes you're buying cards or something like that and he he likes base set you know base set is his thing like he doesn't really have much interest in a lot of other sets right you know base headed is his baby and he has most of the things that he could want in his collection you know a lot of those cards he has posted on his instagram already yeah i mean like when you when you when you have that much money right you can pretty much buy almost any sort of chase card you want not have to bat an eye at it like he yeah with the money that he has he can pretty much buy everything okay and i was talking to alex hodges um about this and he was like she even you did bring up a good point in regards to this like a lot of people were panicking in regards to the whole comment itself but it makes a lot of sense because like if you have that much money to be able to blow on pokemon and buy everything that you want then what's what's the goal after that what's the chase if you have all the chases right yeah and you got to understand and that's the other thing a lot of people understand too he's not leon hart he's not tca gaming he's not sm pratt those guys are dedicated poke tubers he is he is not a poke tuber he is logan paul right he's a brand himself he he's his own brand and you know i think we all know based off of his first couple of videos about pokemon you know he's a super passionate guy you know it's easy to tell that he actually loves the hobby but you know everybody needs a break everybody's got to take a break you know his wallet i'm sure he's piping hot needs to let it cool down a little bit you know and i'm sure you know i think you know he still loves pokemon and i'm sure we'll see him back positive okay so so the answer is i guess the answer is yeah so he is obviously you guys know i flew out to la and spent some time with him uh-huh yeah i saw you on the set yeah so you know everyone will know what that was all about when logan's ready oh so this is tip top secret stuff okay yeah yeah it's cool yeah i mean it's definitely it's definitely going to be awesome i will say that i had it i had an amazing time hanging out at the maverick house with logan and the crew you know all of them were great and uh yeah don't panic sell just you know just because some one famous says one line of sentencing doesn't mean that the earth is crashing down that sucks okay so just take it from me the pokemon hobby is strong and outside of logan paul there are other things around the corner that i can't go into specifics about but we all know the 25th anniversary is right around the corner like why are people selling out right now between like things are just now starting to get spicy yeah you thought if anything yeah anything it's time to buy yeah i mean now is a good time to be buying yeah like with with a market down yeah absolutely it's crazy because people are willing to take losses all because you know of one particular string of hype that happens that seems to be fading out okay okay okay i think i think you've answered my question and i think our our suspicions were pretty on point um yeah all right i know i know um we wanted to talk about um obviously pokemon has experienced a ton of significant amount of growth and right now we're you know so we're sort of going sideways after experiencing a correction um with a lot of the prices um so i wanted i wanted to touch on um probably the biggest topic that's currently going on right now in regards to a lot of the auctions that are taking place currently speaking um we're seeing we're seeing a numerous amount of shilling uh occur right um do you obviously it's dangerous um but i want to know why you believe it is dangerous because in my perspective as someone who sees a lot of these different auctions where things are being shield um if you're someone who's coming into this space you know with a lot of money and you look at how how often this stuff is being shield and it kind of it kind of puts off people away from even coming into this space to begin with even if they do have a lot of money um can can you explain to the people what shilling means just just to clarify because i know some people may not understand um how do i best put it like shilling is basically like you're you're basically manipulating something to make it seem more valuable than what it's supposed to be so it's essentially like you're you're you're placing a bid or you're buying something for the sole intention to manipulate the market no you're not you're not doing it to necessarily buy a product it's just there to pump up something so that way um your overall so to speak investment accrues a lot more value and with no intention to usually yeah okay to buy it correct yeah i mean there's been actively there's been people in the pokemon community who are getting caught you know manipulating and chill bidding and stuff you know collectibles guru was caught red-handed doing it there were a couple of other people who were caught red-handed doing it as well and it's it's definitely a problem because the only reason people are doing it is a for their own interest because they own the product or b it's just people who are doing it because they think it's funny you know they think it's it's funny to mess with the market like that box that went for that first edition jungle box that sold for like two million dollars i was talking to someone on here who said that oh yeah their friend was the one who shield bidded that and he just did it because he thought it was funny you know it's just like that's ridiculous she's like what's your problem yeah like you would think that like honestly chill betting is you know very unhealthy right like even if you do have let's say you do have a first edition shout out as charizard card in your possession in the macro perspective it's it's terrible to show a bit because if you keep things organic that card's still going to grow insignificant amount of value but like if you're constantly shield betting stuff it just displays how volatile this space is and it puts off a lot of people from even wanting to have the card and that basically decreases the demand for that specific card too and which is why like you know people should be weary about bidding specifically on the pwcc marketplace because they are the most susceptible to have that happen to them and they yeah you know legitimate people who are newly getting into the hobby you know could end up paying a price that it never should have been at you know and they won't know any better right so pwcc is the easiest place for that to happen yeah it's like my question is like let's say let's say you're a collector right because i know a lot of stuff goes on pwcc and all sorts of different prices like as as someone who's trying to buy something off a pwcc how do you like if you're bidding on something is there any way to sort of contact pwcc and say like hey can you legitimize all the um bidders on this platform or on this particular on this particular sale because i feel like that would be a little bit more that would make people more inclined to actually bid on their stuff like do you like can you do that or is that does that not happen at all pwcc is the people that have to go in daily and fix the bidding um i've actually have heard that once a day like if pwcc has like a psa 10 first edition charizard or something super high end they will actually get in contact with the people who are bidding and like confirm hey is this a legitimate bid is this you know accurate and if they don't reply within a certain amount of time they'll remove the bid or like i i know that they have started doing that recently as well do you believe that they should continue continuously keep the bidders you know you know name private as a private listing or whatever or do you think it should go back to what it was i think i should go back to what it was absolutely yeah i mean i think it's wrong to you know block the visibility of you know buyers and they already blocked the usernames which was fine but we want to what all we want to know is that the people who are bidding it are they actually credible people themselves right because we used to have a good idea if this was a legitimate price or not based off of who was bidding we didn't need to know names we just needed to see their their rating right that's a good point yeah which so i think they should go back to showing you know blocking out the name but show their ratings to know that they're real people right i agree um i forgot what i was going to ask it was it was under in regards to this um yeezy do you have anything to say well i'm trying to figure out what i was about to ask um as far as shilling goes yeah um what do you have anything to say so even though shillings like a big deal what about those slabs have you seen those like fake slabs going around yeah we're seeing a lot of fake bgs labs and a lot of fake psa slabs yeah i have seen i have seen them before and those are actually a lot harder to authenticate for people who are new to the hobby harder than like resealed boxes because i i've seen fakes where they get the [Music] acrylic down to like an exact detail to where i don't have a psa card right next to me but like on the corners of the bottom there's like a little psa insignia yeah okay becca has one too raised off of the acrylic you know i've seen fakes that have those exactly as well and a lot of people will actually another thing a lot of people do is they'll just open the slabs put different cards in it with the same grade and then you know hypersonic seal it back together all right i will say something that you can also do to combat is that is that use that code don't they scan the actual holo uh the card after they grade it a picture so you can look at similar holo patterns now they don't they don't scan every card only do particular ones like and i i don't think they do that for any reason i think they just at random decide to take pictures of cards to add to their database i feel like they should take a picture of every card that they create do a scan and add to their database but they only do it with a select few okay okay i know somebody brought one of my good buddies um polish he brought that up that you could also do that to combat some of these fake um slabs that you're seeing online hmm interesting i mean i know like there are ways to tell because like what used to be popular was you know people would you know just pop open the seals and then you know sonic seal it back together but there's like damage that you can tell like that i think the term is uh shadowing where if the edging around the psa has a frosty kind of look and not clear see-through that could be evidence that it was tampered with man yeah but to an untrained eye or somebody who doesn't really own or getting into that space i mean i feel like they it's really hard to differentiate something like that now yeah it's it's so and that's like why you know stressing the importance of making sure that you're buying from reputable sellers and not you know just from from random schmoes on ebay i mean sure you can buy from ebay but just make sure that you know the people are reputable have reputable ratings and good feedback that's also we're doing this to like spread the awareness you know yeah um and then one day everybody's gonna flood the poke juice dm's it's probably flooded now but they're gonna be like is this real is this real is this real the man's has twenty thousand followers his dm's are flooded i know what like 800 dm's i still need to read yeah sadly my mine's mine's 1 8 of that yeah it's so hard to keep up with because i'd hate for everybody y'all but you know for for every like 15 messages i get one person who's actually like you know not just someone who's like hi and i have to be like hi i don't even respond to messages like that if they're just saying hey then i'm not responding like it's like can i ask you a question it has to be more specific that's that's that's what we're getting at like yeah it does depends especially with a higher count volume right yeah like i i have 20k on tick tock and you know like with people ask me psa questions i'll i'll get like hey can i ask you a question i'm like just shoot straight with me just ask yeah i actually like the way you do it though because you go live very often and just do q and a's and maybe that's maybe i should start doing that just go live more periodically and do q a because you answer a lot of people's questions that way yeah yeah or you can just come on every now and then you know everybody will ask you questions oh yeah we got people already asking questions hey guys um just to let y'all know don't forget to smash the like but also at the very end of this stream maybe the last what do y'all say 15 10 minutes yeah um we're gonna answer all of y'all or most of y'all's q a's for the time slotted um so yeah definitely get your questions ready we're not going to answer any questions at the moment i'm sorry so i think the last sort of topic that we can kind of cover is um what do you like for new collectors or for yourself like what do you think is um relatively underlooked i mean yeah overlooked what is what guys this is the sleeper of the week shivam you need to properly introduce this segment that we have every week we have every week we have sleepers of the week and this week we're going to get pokechu to give us his sleeper of the week because you know we're getting a little tired we do so much research and we want to hand it over to pokeju this week uh the sleepers that i think people should be focusing more on which i don't focus on because i personally don't have any nostalgic value to these particular sets but from an investment standpoint i think a lot of people are sleeping on heart gold soul silver platinum and uh diamond and pearl sets super low pops yeah i think people really really need to start looking into the chase cards for those sets and start buying high-grade psas and if you can buy booster boxes while they're still relatively affordable because the generation of people that were opening those packs and those products as children aren't yet at the point to where they're at like my age where you know your late 20s early 30s where you have extra you know more disposable income income we know how old he is guys he just gave us out just saying i'm 30. oh okay are you okay okay i'm 25. yes he's 29 right yeah i'm 29. 20. yeah yeah so i mean we're all dang it nobody was supposed to know everybody thought i was like 18 and like 24. now i'm exposed okay appreciate it oh yeah but like you know i think i think this hobby really has a demographic of between 25 between people that are the year 20 and 35 years of age i think people that are you know once they get past 35 that's when people start to really cash out that's what i feel i i i've noticed that like guys like sm pratt and tca are starting to sell like mad product and it's now making me put on my conspiracy theory cap like why are they selling out of everything what's going on with them yeah could be all kinds of reasons yeah one of our sleepers of the week was actually heart gold soul silver but i i was looking at prizes and it's like ridiculous now and it's partially because um mr rhymestyle himself has been spreading the the news on his recent videos but platinum platinum is still low guys it's definitely still affordable i think call legends is still really really low too that's a good set but yeah like plat um diamond and pearl storm front had a secret rare chase card which was a single air charizard uh platinum supreme victors is another set you know super underrated super um i i would recommend y'all go to your local card shops too i know my local car shop is actually sitting on cases of platinum and he's already offered it to me he was saying um i i don't have like any watsy i know that's what everybody wants but if you're interested in some platinum series um he has cases of it just in storage so definitely check them out these these cases are available in these local car shops because it wasn't that i mean it was a long time ago but you know it's definitely not out of reach no it's definitely not i mean i bought i bought two booster boxes from calgary in the middle of the summer um for two booster boxes of plasma storm for 750 a pop and at that time they were going for sixteen hundred dollars i sold one a week later for 21 and one later uh one a month later for three grand so like it's out there you just have to look for it so yeah good good good one poke juice i like it i love it but um what time we're at one hour man thank you so much for um joining us you know so far one hour we told you what we told them like what 45 minutes we told them 35 to 45 minutes all right so yeah i'm gonna go ahead and apologize no i'm having a lot of fun i'm honestly glad you know get some stuff off of my chest and just shoot the [ __ ] with you guys i got you bro you said you you mentioned that you wanted to show off a few things oh did i are we going to get blessed today what um yo bernie shadows thank you for the super chat for 1.99 um i am 31 pokeju and i are 30 30. i do have this for sale it is a first edition shadowless base set booster pack do you get that special case that murphy has made too yes yes in the uh state of the arts wow mercedes too right patent pending don't don't even try guys all y'all don't don't even try yeah shout out to kendo shark shout out to charizard king 24. yeah those cases are nice those aren't yes how much how much do those cases cost forty dollars wow just for one yeah it's not that they're nice man it's a mercedes high quality right oh yeah definitely pristine christine but yeah he's selling it that's really nice shadow you want to tell us um why it's shadowless like how were you how could you tell they were shadowless uh well this is you know the biggest indicator is the first edition stamp right here okay but long crimps at the top versus here's like a gym challenge with a short crimp okay and then here's long crimp gotcha i just know like some of these videos um a lot of people ask i know when i first got into the hobby um some of these things were just like basically easy knowledge to me but you know some some of these people are learning so it's good to share these knowledge every now and then but you got anything else joe before we go into the q a because i know people are itching yeah that covers it um i guess um yeah i guess before we you know um get to the q a um definitely go ahead and plug yourself if you want to talk about your social media accounts um it's the pokeygo and everything right instagram tick tock youtube the pokeju on instagram tik tok youtube i you know have a decent non-cringe youtube channel you know that i think you know really really is really geared more towards vintage heads i don't really do a lot too much modern but you know if you like vintage pokemon product i think my channel is is really nice and i just recently got on tick tock as well so i've been pretty active on tick tock yeah you're doing good you're doing a decent job putting out enough content on there i think you're you're killing it guys yeah oh shoot let me just show y'all his recent tick tock it is hilarious let me tell you okay i have to show you i want to show everybody like in a worse quality way or there we go here it is and the kiss the kiss at the end got me it's the kiss at the end that got me guys that's him that's this guy right here guys did just to just convince did just plays pokemon convince you to get tick-tock no but uh she was like like the only reason i knew about tick tock was because she would share her tick tocks with the group chat that we're in um and i was just like all right i need to get on tick tock and and then i went on and saw not shivam and uh alex hodges and i was like oh damn yeah these guys are big time over here thank you thank you yeah that's hilarious but okay i think it's time i think it's a good time guys right now as of right now we're gonna open up some q a uh the time slot is one minute and six we're one hour and six minutes so we're gonna end this i guess at 120 no 120. so once we hit 120 we're going to close it off um yeah so roll in the questions and me and shiv pakiji do you have any questions like do you have the chat pulled up or if you don't it's fine we'll read it off to you here we go do you think me on this news you can read it off okay do you think neo destiny is the ultimate undervalued set and has space to grow i don't think it's undervalued at all i think a lot of people know exactly you know how crazy neo-destiny is i think you know it's obvious that it's the best of the four neo sets uh and i i do think there is still plenty of room to grow for neo-destiny i think yeah i mean if there's still room to grow for first edition base set at the prices that it's currently at there's still room to grow for every other set as well okay and he followed it up with do you think the first edition stamp is more important than the psa pop neo destiny unlimited has a lower pop in psa 10. and that's a good question yeah um i think population matters to more of like core collectors like people like people who because at the end of the day first edition is always gonna have more demand because it is first edition you know that's just how it will always be despite the populations you know a lot of people try to sell high end cards that have extremely low populations but not a lot of people want to buy them because they're not sexy cards you know they're not cards that are very attractive and when you're applying that to first edition verse unlimited you know let's say a first edition psa 10 jolteon hollow has a much lower pop than a first edition it might have a premium for a while but first edition will always win in the end well i personally think um okay and also just just from experience as well like it wasn't until recently where populations actually really mattered to people um okay um let's do the super chat one yo appreciate jonathan watt for the super chat so we're gonna go ahead and do his question first thank you uh jonathan yeah get a thumbs up appreciate it uh he says what do you think about japanese special boxes like kanazawa kanna izawa kanazawa speaks me i don't know that uh i sadly mainly am only knowledgeable in english uh i don't know i don't know much about japanese product i do know about japanese like vintage japanese but not the newer stuff i know a decent amount about vintage japanese and i don't even know kanazawa i know mostly nicely top sun meiji kardas stuff like that i've never heard of kanazawa uh yeah i'm looking it up i've never heard of it either man you must have uh maybe i shouldn't look this up because something really weird just pulled up so i'm just going to put that down okay um yeah pick up the did you spell it right i think so i don't want to show the i'll show y'all later but i don't know what i just looked up either the guy just trolled the crap out of me or um yeah you you oh it's a new set okay yo yo yo ben allen appreciate it with the super chat 9.99 from um what he says keep killing it y'all 100 with a little horns and the fire so appreciate you um yeah go ahead shavon just um ask one of the questions you pick one because they're rolling like crazy josh rudd aka swoldi moore asked do you think it's a good or bad thing that some modern chase cards cost more than watsy modern um i think that it's neither a good thing or a bad thing i think it's just normal because you know it's driven by demand and it's driven by hype and we all saw it with the champions path charizards where you know fresh out of the packs when they first came out were selling for two thousand dollars raw you know to now you know they settled down to 500 really quick um i don't think it's bad or i don't think it's good i think it means that there's you know a lot of good health in the modern market you know and it's good to see modern cards have high prices for a certain amount of time but we need to understand that you know modern isn't the best for investment just because it is high priced when it first comes out does not mean it's going to stay that price forever you know we all you know bear witness to it with hidden fates and champions path so yeah just know what the hype cards are and be patient um keyword right there for sure i just want to expand upon what joshua had said do you think that um do you think that modern car a lot of modern cars and some modern sets are being over evaluated uh i do yeah i do like the hidden fates charizard i think you know there i'm surprised that it's held its value as well as it has especially with the announcement of the reprint but just plays pokemon recently explained that the reprints will actually be dated differently yeah that's yeah that's been the case for every reprint okay so i'm not really familiar with with reprints but i imagine that if you have a psa 10 version of the original hidden face charizard that might be more valuable in the long run than the reprint version maybe because like when they reprinted ultra prism um it still had the same year that the car was print like originally printed on so i don't think that's going to happen i think it's still going to say 2019. and that's what i worry about because like if it does if there if there's no indication that the card is a reprint then that just to me destroys the value of the card i mean that's what happened with uh the shaman ex during xy roaring skies so that's they are going to change the date is that correct she said it was but i don't okay because i mean like based upon previous pokemon behavior nothing's changed yeah um yeah which is ridiculous well the caveat to that is basically they say pokemon's usually sitting on this stock though they announce it as reprints so nobody really knows do they um there are people who do know like i know in the scenario for xy evolutions the pokemon international training company they definitely over printed the [ __ ] out of evolutions so here we go they're they're just putting it into new product because they're they just printed so much of it but it was honestly a smart move on their end to do because obviously it's still a very popular set to this day and i personally think that they should continue that trend you know maybe not at the 25th year anniversary but maybe at the 30-year anniversary make another base set reprint set you know but make it cooler you know okay okay um are you worried about how i call it you see any questions that's popping out to you um no it's your turn okay um there's like a really modern questions like somebody asked about like what how what is the absolute bottom dollar you would sell at charizard vmax rainbow secret rare for um like raw or graded it sounds like you mean raw because he didn't attach a psa grade to it i know on tcg player it's it's going for about 335 right now i was gonna say whenever i sell any modern cards i always go to ebay sold listings and just pick an average price and go with that what how about what can you see it dropping down to how about that because as [ __ ] guys if if anything you you're wondering about as far as value goes what whatever the pokey juice says and whatever not siobhan has been preaching like go to ebay look at sold listing not just the cheapest one but try to look at an average look at a couple of listings because as we said earlier shilling does happen people do drop off on sales it's just it's very murky so you do have to do your research and look at multiple listings but but yeah yeah and and a lot of people also just list product at like stupid prices because they you know don't have intentions to sell you know and like you know one of my good friends in the community uh uh pokemon tcg cheese he has a deoxys box posted on ebay for i think like a hundred thousand dollars or something like that yeah but like you know he's doing that more to get traffic to his to his instagram and to just you know let the ebay world know hey this box is here and it exists but really some prince from dubai could easily just be like oh i want that box snipe it up and then people will interpret that as the new market price right so yeah definitely multiple listings but i mean i guess something like that you don't see around very often um there are websites i know um ebay only listed up to what like three months two three months so pokemon card.com is good sorry pokemon price yeah pokemonprice.com so you can look at that and look at past you know the two three months cap that ebay does just um don't sell just simp okay question in your opinion is the pokemon company starting to go back to more color on the booster boxes like the old days what uh i mean it's based off the graphic designer now i definitely think that they have been strategic with the holiday sets as far as you know trying to make their themes more vintage they did really you know and i'm honestly surprised that they didn't you know make better cards for shining legends because shining legends got so many people back into the hobby like like a lot of people sleep on shining legends now but that set got so many people back into the hobby because they brought back the idea of shining cards no but they didn't make a charizard card for that set which was a mistake numero uno and they didn't make the cards actually rare like that you know they over printed the shining cards they did well that's something that you know the pokemon company needs to fix is they actually need to make cards rare again yeah they need to make the pull rates a little bit more difficult the pull rates for sun and moon were pretty hard right like the rainbows are the rescues are those were kind of hard to pull now um the only reason why burning shadows is just hard is just because quality control is just terrible for that set i mean you can pull it but the chances of you pulling a 10 is very something down you could pull a card fresh out of the pack and i'll come back as a ps8 yeah so i don't know yeah what about next oh oh what time is it that's a good one oh we got one we got maybe two more questions one i think this last question is going to be the last one yeah this is a good one okay cool um yeah yamaritsu asked so can we talk about how proxy fakes are getting better sure what's your take on that um i think honestly you know it's a market it's a market that is successful that someone is doing you know making fake cards for profit and good on them for doing it but it will have a long-term effect over time you know it's not something that's necessarily that big of an issue now but it could have devastating effects in the future because you know people that are going to be getting into the hobby like years down the road could easily get sold proxy first edition shadow space at charizards and not know the difference because proxies are starting to become very very well made and well crafted and the quality is getting on point do you think tcpi is doing stuff to mitigate that no and they can't because these are all just private you know individuals who are doing it and you know there's no licensing for it there is just open game it's as easy as drew's custom cards making custom cards for people right now do you think that pokemon could do something specific in regards to their cards and how it's produced to prevent yeah because you know you have to use has that little holographic stamp on a corner i know that that gets kind of hard to replicate yeah the eye of anubis is kind of hard to uh replicate yeah i mean pokemon is definitely behind the curve as far as what they could do for you know authentication yu-gi-oh like you guys said they made very very hard to replicate insignias on the cards you know the us federal reserve has already done that with putting security strips and watermarks on our currency pokemon is still very very cheaply produced like their their manufacturing is probably lower quality than any other tcg on the market right now and that's because they produce such a mass amount right you know that that's why when you when you're holding vintage cards in your hand versus today's cards it's like a night and day difference as far as the quality of the stock that they were using yo shout out to smooth text love the videos keep up the good work appreciate you man and shout out to money pit collection earlier he did do one earlier i remember that i definitely did not shout him out but shout out to mpc but um yeah that's getting it definitely is getting scary and like the i would say like the better replicators like who like to um make fake cards they're coming into the space because they see money right it's worth their time now to actually replicate replicate these um cards so man it is getting scary very scary yeah and they can use the argument you know that oh well i'm just providing a service to people that can't afford these cards you know it gives them something to have and to hold you know for a fraction of the cost it's actually really getting scary so you've seen um drew customs cars there's this guy on facebook his name is like anthony something and i think he's either not i don't know about france but he's definitely foreign and the quality of his cards are amazing like if you think drew customs card is good which i i bought cards from them and they're really nice but anthony like i'll show you after this but his cards he's even broken down to like um the ripples the textures like he knows how to do all that and he makes custom cards like in his edition and they are amazing i'll show you after it's it blows my mind but yeah and see and that's that's that's awesome but it's also scary because you know it hopefully he's a good guy because you know if he had the right mind to he could easily just start manufacturing champions paths secret rare charizard cards and yeah or whatever card you know that he could replicate easily you know if he has the material and the equipment to do so you know there's no stopping him yeah it's it's really scary i'm not gonna give his name out he's he's definitely a small timer and um i was gonna buy some cards from him he does like custom rk9s that's my favorite pokemon by the way um but yeah the same thing goes for like boxes though too like they're in fact you guys want let me grab one thing because you guys might be interested in this okay oh what's that we got you just we're keeping it spicy for y'all guys guys thank you all 129 32 of y'all joining chat i really really do appreciate y'all um coming by and you know we're always going to improve for y'all you know like 132 main art goated you know and we're going to bring the goatee people in here too so yeah i appreciate y'all what he's doing boom that was flash flash lightning let's go so leonhard showed one of these on his youtube like last year so this is a ex crystal guardians booster box yup i watched this okay so this thing is a thousand percent fake okay like the box oh no i do remember this yeah the box itself is even fake like down to the markings on the bottom with the with the barcode and like it it screams legit but the way you can tell that the box is fake is you can see the perforations along the charizar charizard's wings aren't authentic as to what ex boxes should look like i know it's hard to tell with my virtual background yeah and the lip of the box here you see how short it is yeah when the lip of this box on authentic boxes actually goes all the way all the way down okay okay to the bottom that's good that's good knowledge right there um is there even the packs themselves are fake yeah everything was fake yeah so does it how what about the film like the finish on the box is it a lot shinier because i know that that's one of the biggest telltale signs on fake product other rap so no no like the i'm talking about the finish on the art yeah yeah so it does have a much like a box glossier it is glossier the colors are more vibrant on the fake box than they are on the reel box but like once you open the box like you can tell like no booster packs at least from ex era should have this silver strip there's another one man dropping facts okay going on the back and if you just look at the crimps there's like these vertical lines that are going up the bridges of the packs which i mean and even just like feeling the pack it just it doesn't feel authentic and when you go to open it like i have uh i have a pack that i opened real quick shout out some money pick collection again he's super chat at 4.99 did y'all know that pokey jew is a goat and that the like button only takes one second to hit yo appreciate you again money pick collection okay oh no yeah let's go okay but like these were what was inside like wow you see the gloss and like uh-huh and like you can see how on the back of the cards like how faded and i can even see how glossy it is from here for sure yeah so like people were doing this with first edition shadow space boxes like they were actually manufacturing empty boxes and like filling them with stuff and then putting like a legitimate wrap on it like a like a legitimate um saran wrap or whatever wow and like that was like there was scams going on in belgium a few years ago where like this company produced a bunch of fake first edition boxes and sold them each and we got another one jeff the ref thank you for the super fun and educational content fire appreciate you jeff the ref thank you thank you i think that wraps it up i think that was dude you nailed it you you killed it i know i i couldn't have asked anymore dude it's been awesome having you on the show man and i thank you for how much uh a hundred and twenty eight a hundred a hundred an hour and almost 30 minutes don't um don't send me to check it yet make sure i get my paycheck before don't send me that damage quite yet you know yeah just uh just to go over again um just sort of repeat your social media just for everyone to see yeah thank you guys for joining this podcast uh siobhan and izzy are great collectors in the community and i'm honored to be working with them i am michael the pokeju you can find me on instagram tiktok and youtube and yeah that's pretty much it like subscribe follow these guys hey he also has a youtube too so yeah for sure he just started um but i'm in the baby phases of my pokemon stuff so i've been around for a while but i'm trying to make a bigger social media presence so he'll he'll get there and he'll get there in no time soon i can promise you guys that yeah if you have any questions as far as cameras and volume or anything you know hit me up i hope y'all i mean you probably have a lot of cool people to hit up but you know in case you have questions no i mean like i i need like i don't want to hit up the big people like i don't like you know i don't i want people who are unbiased and who like i i want your guys's help you know yeah i mean you know who to hit up if you're looking for tick-tock help absolutely absolutely we got you we got you but guys thank you so much can we get up guys let's let's get a round of applause right there in the chat um for mr the pokeju for joining us thank you very much but other than that we like to end our um chat with i mean our next stream with show them first show we'll do it first we do you turn your thumb up okay and then deuces and then salute out absolutely yeah so here we go we're all gonna do it deuces deuces we're out guys what's up thank you so much you

Channel: Yizzy Pokemon

Views: 1,994

Rating: 4.9130435 out of 5

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Id: E712Ax52Wyw

Length: 90min 36sec (5436 seconds)

Published: Sat Nov 21 2020