Pink Floyd - History

the pink floyd you're going to hear them in a minute and i don't want to prejudice you hear them and see them first and we'll talk about them afterwards [Music] in 2005 four distinguished rock musicians performed together for the first time in 25 years at live eight [Music] for a precious 20 minutes they were all once again the legendary pink floyd a band that has spanned 40 years pioneering everything from underground rock to the stadium extravaganza a band that has survived tragedy shunned celebrity and wrestled publicly with both its success and its audience [Music] there have been five men in pink floyd and three of them have led the band in different decades that's why the question still remains which one's pink london 1965 british pop music rules the world clubs are throbbing with electric guitars pounding drums and would-be rock and roll stars three middle-class students rick wright roger waters and nick mason were studying architecture at the regent street polytechnic they formed a van and dreamed of escaping the profession they seemed destined to inhabit their group went through several permutations and names including the t-set and sigma-6 performing standard cover versions of american and british rhythm and blues they were going nowhere [Music] a childhood friend of roger waters since their school days together in cambridge drifted down to london to study painting his name was sid barrett he joined sigma 6 renamed the band the pink floyd sound and promptly became its front man sid sort of lived like he walked he walked with a bounce he came up on it on his toes so every step he took was like a pop you know he had a lot of sort of tigger in him he was as everyone says public very attractive everyone wanted to be his friend [Music] barrett was a highly original writer and musician his songs had a quirky british pastoral edge and his guitar playing led the band into extended sonic explorations he would do things on the guitar that no one ever dreamed of doing which influenced me so i made me do things on the keyboards that i would people hadn't done before technically no not so brilliant but for me that the technique is not important it's the originality and he was one of the originals it is a very curious thing that people can go into music business with actually relatively little technical ability but an absolute determination to show off at all costs you know if you can actually play it's very hard not to copy other things that you hear you know but we couldn't copy anything because we couldn't you know rick was certainly the only one who went to music school and rick was the one who was always would help out in arrangements he was the one who used to tune roger's base [Music] now simply called pink floyd the band found itself at the epicentre of london's underground explosion playing a unique mix of original melodic pop and freak out music at clubs such as ufo and middle earth overnight they became the house band of the underground movement taking their audiences on a trip one of the things that sets them apart is so many other bands are based around blues that they had this avalgard approach to the the their long instrumental passages but they always started from a brilliant pop song by sid tinkling and bashing and scraping and doing making the instruments to make whatever noises they they they would you know and then after we've been doing that for like 10 minutes or something we go all right back in and play the roof twice more and that was the end of it you still had a tune a song and then you would have an improvised bit and then you'd have a tune and a song it was radical it was and it was very radical [Music] arnold lane an everyday tale of a man stealing women's underwear from washing lines was the first of barrett's original songs to be recorded as a demo produced by joe boyd it was touted around several companies before the beatles label emi signed the band in february [Music] 1967. [Music] from the start the floyd were determined to do things their way as college boys they were already wary of the pop business and its old school managers we were always very very distrustful of that whole scene it was very kind of east end camel air coats you know stick with me son you'll be all right you know and i'm very very very wary of all that i think what was so different then to now is they'd sign almost anything with long hair you know and if it turned out to be a golden retriever hey so what we signed with a pop band now you make albums lots of three-minute singles and we took no way we're talking about a world where sergeant pepper hadn't been released and you know almost overnight um it switched from being hit singles to being albums in early 67 the beatles were recording sergeant pepper at london's abbey road studios [Music] in february the floyd arrived at the same studios to record their equally momentous first album the piper at the gates of dawn [Music] this was the summer of love everything was possible emi appointed the beatles engineer norman smith as the floyd's producer [Music] i know he had a struggle with sid because sid would come in with his extraordinary songs and i think norm will say oh that's great look we've got to put some form to it we've got to get it into time and simply say yes okay and then go out and play a different way [Applause] [Music] the floyd were determined to exploit everything smith and abby road could offer experimenting with new sounds and recording techniques we had a tape running around microphone stands all the way around the control room so you could get a very slow delay going through three tape recorded delays one of the advantages of abbey road was that there was an awful lot of old sort of stuff lying around so i think they probably had a spinet or a clavicle you know things like that [Applause] [Music] [Applause] while the floyd tinkered away recording sid's fairy tale songs and a studio version of one of the extended sonic improvisations they were playing in the underground clubs producer norman smith struggled to get another single out of barrett [Music] the band eventually decamped here sound techniques in west london where joe boyd had produced arnold lane to record what would become their first big hit emily tries [Music] barrett invited an old friend and musician from cambridge to come to the recording sessions guitarist and singer david gilmour was shocked by what he found in the flesh he was a little bit strange and glazed eyes and for me having not seen him for a while it was quite alarming to see him like that i didn't know how alarming or how alarmed i should be or how permanent that sort of thing was or whether it was just a moment you see you don't you don't really think about it barrett was becoming increasingly erratic he was taking too many drugs and didn't like the limelight when his son see emily play climbed into the top ten the cracks began to appear i think we did a lot more pops shows and ballrooms and i think that was probably a bit more difficult for them and that was probably a bit difficult for sid sid didn't want to play i was particularly feeling quite the same i didn't want to really play it and i don't think any of the band wanted to play it so it pissed the audiences off a lot had a few beer bottles and stuff thrown at us [Applause] [Music] these shows were a million miles away from pink floyd's underground home base where the band like its audience was lost in the light show [Music] they were deliberately devoid of personality they didn't talk much you know the fact that they were covered with these lights all the time they'd all you know study their instruments nobody looked out are you having a good time yeah let's go clap your hands all that stuff we've never done that in fact we did like to hide behind the lights and it became a kind of who are these people my memory of seeing them is walking around the stage trying to work out where the noise came from what rick played and what sid played were very very well blended together when barrett emerged from the shadows and into the studio lights top of the pops he went into meltdown [Music] the second week that we went in sid was very disgruntled and he started saying why should i why should i have to do this john lennon doesn't have to do this and i was looking at him going what the [ __ ] are you talking about you know this is it this is what we've worked all these years to achieve is this this is this is the sort of pinnacle of success and you don't want to do it you're mad of course he was mad but i mean that you know that wasn't the point it was just um it was a really clear indication i mean i was shocked i was really shocked sid would get suddenly was starting to get recognized and he would be a sort of you know scrumptious pop idol maybe he still thought do i really want this life is this really what i want and maybe that's what was coming out unconsciously then in all the wacky behavior i mean was all the wacky behavior a rejection of becoming a pop star i remember one day we were going off to do a gig and we went to pick him up and he jumped into the car and he was wearing a frog you know i said he takes it and he said i'm homosexual and he went to this whole thing you know where he pretended to be gay for like days on end the floyd was losing not only its leader but also the writer responsible for much of its original material and hit singles so you know we took a very positive view and we all went don't show me um you know it was denial at the ultimate level really i mean roger has a theory he's schizophrenic i don't think it's true i didn't think he was but i'm still convinced that he took a huge overdose of acid and destroyed his brain cells he went to see ronnie lang and he said there's nothing we can do for him you know physically the brain is actually being destroyed so very sad [Music] no amount of english reserve could mask the fact that barrett was now an acid casualty virtually unable to perform the other band members called a crisis meeting with managers peter jenner andrew king and brian morrison [Music] peter jenner and andrew king were absolutely convinced that without sid there was no pink floyd you know you solve this problem or you go back to being an architect if you don't solve this problem it's over panic panic and and and terrible concern because it was also it was a mixture of business panic uh because we needed another single sid please can you write another single [Applause] sid didn't know what he thought oh what no sid's got an idea oh really what is it sid thinks you should hire two girls saxophone players okay and that was it i think oh yeah no you know um no morrison who was a bad boy he said the name's pink floyd as long as we put out the pink floyd no one's gonna know the difference by the way which one of you is sick was barrett's old cambridge friend david gilmour who was asked by the band to join pink floyd [Music] when you're all young thrusting ambitious people in your early 20s you have a brutality about the things you do that you know your ambition is driving you forwards without much care for other people's feelings to be fraying and you have plenty of time to feel guilty later as 1967 gave way to 1968 sid barrett gave way to david gilmour as pink floyd passed through a brief five-member transition i think it was odd for david it was odd for sid and the rest of us were a bit embarrassed about it we nearly said something that's how bad it was so i think it was difficult for david because when he came into the band i think his role was to try and play sid's guitar parts [Music] it was his band he was it was him and about him i think i coped with it okay there were moments of of feeling lost on stage and not knowing what the hell was going on around me and um i did tend to spend some of my time with my back to the audience sort of sliding you know mic stand legs up the guitar and making weird noises in feeling rather embarrassed but um that's not all the time that's quite a bit of the time it really worked and gelled and you started thinking yeah i'm beginning to get what we're on about here [Music] the band was now recording that difficult second album a source full of secrets some of the tracks were already recorded i think set the controls for the heart of the sun which is roger's first real moment of glory i suppose it was already pretty well done and i think there's a sort of a guitar on there that sid did and there's a bit of guitar in there that i did i think it's the only moment that we we share on the track one of the things that worked quite well were so very rhythmic [Music] moments we did break some new ground by actually allowing the music sometimes to sort of drop down drop away and become this more sort of ethereal spacey music it was deep space that now attracted the floyd's attention as it did countless millions of other hopefuls worldwide in 1969. the world television audience 600 million people this afternoon watched the apollo 11 spacecraft launched into a perfect blue sky above cape kennedy in florida as the first men walked on the moon pink floyd played along with the tv pictures for the bbc [Music] we were there in the studio playing live while people were walking on the moon i can't quite imagine it today that um behind a program that have a pop group making up a jam live in the studio while that was going on those were the days aircraft reports a visual with three small shoots when the floyd returned to earth they discovered that producing singles without barrett was mission impossible we all tried to write right singles point me at the sky was one notable [Music] failure [Music] yeah couldn't do it and and and eventually we just sort of gave up and went well we can't do that all right what can we do well we do long things then you know [Music] careful with that axe eugene announced a floyd of extended rock-driven soundscapes and implied narratives a kind of space rock made by an unidentified crew now journeying without a captain [Music] we were fantastically insular [Applause] we didn't really want to be influenced by other people and things that were going on we were fiercely independent of what we were doing [Music] we did learn quite a lot about improvising and about listening to what other people were doing and picking up an idea and sort of developing it [Music] [Music] [Applause] this was the age of experimentation and difficult music of prepared pianos and classical pretensions saucepans full of secrets all of which the floyd embraced [Music] a lot of the time it would just be clunky noises he would be searching for something and it didn't work and ultimately to me personally it became rather unsatisfying i think mrs rogers said let's make an album without using any of our instruments but use household objects so we spend days getting a pencil and a rubber band until it sounded like a base right we spent weeks and weeks and doing this nick would find old you know saucepans and stuff and then deaden them to try and make them sound exactly like a snare drum i remember sitting down with roger and say roger this is insane atom heart mother was the floyd's most ambitious experiment yet a rock suite incorporating a brass band and choir the musician didn't really give a [ __ ] it was basically a brass band but it didn't give a [ __ ] they just wanted to have their beer get pitched it was kind of very weird atom heart mother was always meant it was like a movie soundtrack it was meant to be a sort of soundtrack to an epic movie that didn't exist [Music] it was an interesting exercise but it doesn't hold an enormous amount of pink floyd development their fans disagreed and the record went to number one in the album charts in october 1970 [Music] but as the members sharpen their songwriting skills strengthen their musical partnership and focus their experimental ambitions they hit a creative peak on their next album medal with a little help from sheamus the dog [Music] hello [Music] took a while before i ever started turning up songs that we thought were good and i suppose our confidence to move slightly away from being quite so out there as we were came with with with time [Music] [Laughter] [Music] so the floyd had fathered british prague rock and unwittingly it's self-indulgent excesses but they showed exactly how it should be done with echoes a 23-minute track that made up the entire second side of the medal album [Music] the whole band was working together [Music] everyone would be throwing things in and seeing what worked and what didn't all encouraging each other all getting inspired by other people's ideas and it was a really collected piece of music i think we found our feet i think we found we can do this without sid [Music] roger would be driving it more than anyone else mostly you know in the in its dynamic range all of that work everything that we did there i i look upon realisation serving our apprenticeship you know before we could actually say right now we're ready you know put on your apron we're going to make dark side of the moon we've learned how to use our chisels and we'll do it properly this time [Music] in 1973 the floyd returned to the moon but this time to its dark side times had changed sixties optimism had given way to the troubled seventies this was a world in eclipse materialistic and authoritarian anything is possible had become nothing is possible roger waters lyrics spat back at a world now peopled by us and them [Music] the records sold millions and gave them their first number one album in the states they had become conflated in my mind with this thing which i really thought was the death of music um prague rock and stuff like that it was over considered middle class intellectual english stuff i didn't have it uniquely amongst the planet i have to say but it's only much later that i realized the scale of their achievement what it is is a great record that's what it is it is absolutely one of the cardinal pillars of rock and roll in my view now i certainly knew as we were making this album that something quite magical is happening i remember sitting on the final listing and all of a sudden that is good that is very good one of the elements that made it so successful was the fact that bloody record company pulled her finger out and got on with it that initial surge in that number one in america was very very important it was certainly apart from enormously talented drumming on it was to do with the record company doing her job this album just shot up and was so enormous and we were left into a different stratosphere and part of you wants it you know you want that success you love it you know you want people to love you and to pretend they love you it's it's a drug darkseid represents not only the band's biggest commercial hit but also their most successful artistic collaboration four men one band it would never be quite the same again are there some difficulties yes how do you get around them we pretend they're not there we certainly don't face up to them in an adult way if that's what you mean i don't know we understand each other very well we're very tolerant with each other uh but a lot of things unsaid as well we're all from the british aristocracy with the exception of david gilmour and all our mothers are uh countesses and things that duchesses yeah i mean obviously they're all a gang of idiots but you know live on that live that's what they said in america a record executive puffed on his cigar and asked the group oh by the way which one's pink roger by this time become the lyricist and it really was kind of teamwork then because david and me will write to music and roger say okay i'm going to go home and write some lyrics for this and come back tomorrow and that was that was how the writing was working then [Music] [Applause] but this pink floyd seemed regretful and sometimes angry [Music] this wasn't pop music as we've known it but a new and surprisingly commercial strain of english melancholy if i'm at home when i go on the piano um it's all very melancholic what i play and i keep sometimes saying himself you've got to get out of this you've got to come on do something a bit more up read oh david's kind of melancholic too in his guitaring play against roger's rather fiery and political and angry lyrics so it's quite an interesting combination people that naturally experience an unease about all of all of this i think we human beings most human beings experience the natural language they think well on the surface all of this seems to be working but it just doesn't somehow sit right with me that's why people attach to it they're attached to this work because there's a sense of relief when you even if it's melancholic then you go oh my god somebody else gets it too somebody else feels this sense of unease when it's roger's phrase quiet desperation isn't that what he says is the english ways nobody says something like that dave is quintessentially english and there's a reserve and it's hard to break out of it so he doesn't he just plays it [Music] so [Music] the daunting task of following dark side of the moon was finally clinched back at abbey road studios in 1975. the spectre of sid barrett was celebrated if not fully laid to rest and what would become their second most successful album wish you were here they paid tribute to their mercurial founder in an emotionally charged anthem that would become an essential part of any pink floyd concert like the sun like black holes in the sky [Music] is [Music] come on [Music] [Applause] you know the way in which sid left and their consistent determination to link themselves to sid and to talk about him to sing about him to write songs about him i think that it's been good karma for them he's there because i think we all know that the band wouldn't have sort of existed without him kicking it off i think we also felt that you know having dropped him out of the band perhaps we have a bit of guilt about you know of course we should have done something better for him it's funny you know when when sid died last year i realized that you know by and large i'd already done all my grieving i'd done it 20 years before you know and i've been doing it i've been doing it the floyd had always been a multimedia band but the innocent diy days of the late 60s were long gone the band now commanded huge stadiums and pioneered a form of rock theatre that amazed and delighted their ever expanding audience but they continued to hide behind the pyrotechnics we don't exist we're just a brand here we are don't put any lights on us be distracted by these [ __ ] flying pigs and airplanes you know just keep away from us you're not getting near us our cozy rapport with the audience that were there entirely for us and would be very quiet in the quiet bits you could hear a pin drop that sort of whole thing where we felt at one with our audience changed rather rather than focusing on the individuals what did they want to focus on the music but how do you do that to punters without boring them [Music] quite a lot of people are playing frisbee at the back and you've got to try and get them to join in and that's you know that's the real reason for doing big you know big things so because you want everyone to enjoy the show it's impossible to think or to imagine that in every largish town there are 50 000 people who know and love your music it's just not really realistic to believe that well dave particularly was very against doing anything why can't we just stand on stage and play the songs well it'll be boring waters the most organized motivated and ambitious member of the group pushed ahead planning ever higher concepts and bigger extravaganzas making pigs fly and pink floyd the show in town but his increasing disgust with society and authority now put him and the band in conflict with the very audiences that flocked to their stadium shows which were becoming an increasingly empty spectacle [Applause] you know there was a lot of show that animals was really a big show um i became rather disenchanted with it and and thought that too much was lost you know what was gained from having a large congregation of people you know communing together which is what a stadium at its best is uh was being lost in a sort of watering down of the way the message got across to the audience i thought it was kind of inhuman and only about money on the 77 animals tour waters himself conceded defeat by stadium when he spat like an older angrier johnny rotten and a member of the audience you know one of the very irritating things about being post-show is when it's been a bad one and someone comes in and says that was [ __ ] great you know because you resent them and you think what the [ __ ] do you know it was crap [Music] water's personal response to the animal's incident and the dead end of the stadium experience was to make physical and mental barriers and his sense of alienation the subject of the floyd's next project he would rewrite the book of rock theater on the wall if you show yourself it's a risk you take the risk of being rejected you know if you have pretensions to being an artist of any kind you have to take the risk of people rejecting you or thinking you're an [ __ ] that's crap so well you know you may think it is but it's me [Music] waters approached the wall as a one-man construction crew but his determined vision and combative leadership marginalize the other members you know my confidence in my own lyric writing has has not always been that high and roger showed a very strong desire to be the lyricist and we all lazily allowed that to happen while i didn't have any material to offer david didn't really either and roger had begun to think well i'm the writer of this band and i don't want anyone else to write i'm going to become the it was the start of that whole thing so i'm to blame for not having anything and he's to blame for not encouraging anything to come oh he's he wouldn't let us write what you know i mean that's just so so stupid desperate for people to write always always always always always is there anybody out there the fact of the matter is roger arrived with the wall more or less pre-written so that was a hell of a different thing to dark side is there anybody out there now the indisputable leader of the band waters frustrated by a lack of support sacked one of its co-founding original members keyboard player rick wright our personal relationship broke down completely by the wall that's when i left but interesting thing is when i was asked to leave i said i will but i want to finish this and i want to play live i want to play the performances and roger was totally happy for me to play i think it was a personal personality clash a lot to do with it and his and his belief that he was the band and that the other musicians i mean that story goes and nick was the next one to be thrown out by him we'd reach the point where roger actually thought hang on a minute why am i working with these other people who he felt were not really um helping him do what he wanted in fact if ending they were chris you know going home now i don't think that's quite around roger [Music] regime change was in the air [Music] my musical taste and abilities had as just as much actually if not more to do with it all than roger's and that if i allowed um this dictatorship to become real and total then our music would suffer because i didn't think that uh and still don't but that is really roger's main forte when i was that very young guy in that band all those years ago i would stand in the corner and smoke cigarettes endlessly and sort of snow i'm not as as reactionary in the literal sense of the word as i was when i was a young man i don't immediately feel i've got to you know hurt you before you hurt me [Music] the band made one more record together the final cut but in most respects it was a solo album from waters soon after he informed their record company that he was leaving and declared that pink floyd was no more this was something david gilmour in particular refused to accept i think he was very surprised when david and nick said okay you can leave the band fine and didn't expect them to say okay now we're going to make an album i think floyd album go on tour without you it seemed important to me to just get on and do the very best you can do and you know sid barrett's pink floyd had been one pink floyd and the the pink floyd with the four of us roger rick nick and i had had been another one and this would be another another version that i think shocked him a bit well not shocked him but he made him angry well we know it made him angry because he tried to stop it the argument was me rather pompously and and i admit now erroneously suggesting that because i wasn't in the band anymore that that the brand and band name should should be retired it's not you know it's not up it wasn't up to me it's well it's a battle about using a name but it's a name that all of us had spent our entire adult lives working on as anonymous as we all have been throughout that pink floyd history i mean after all who's nick mace now he's the drummer the pink floyd um who's rick oh he's the keyboard player of the king pink floyd who's roger roger roger waters is the guy who who was in the pink floyd you know that's who they are spurred into action gilmore wrote and recorded a new floyd album a momentary lapse of reason with new collaborators released in 1987 it went on to sell nine million copies and encouraged gilmore to tour the floyd with rick wright and nick mason fully reinstated [Music] when the band played live in venice in july 1989 the televised event was watched around the globe pink floyd were back bigger than ever and with a new leader [Music] is pink floyd toured the world as did a solo roger waters who performed his version of the wall in berlin in 1990 played the band's most popular numbers while lawsuits and bad blood flowed between them [Music] i remember one particular night i'm playing in cincinnati to about 2 000 people in a 6 000 seat you know arena and they're playing the next day to 60 000 people in football stadium next door playing all my songs you know but and um that was hard to take the momentary lapse of reason tor restored the confidence of both rick wright and nick mason under gilmore's leadership the band now worked together again as a team for what would be the last original pink floyd album the division bell began life here in 1993 in gilmore's floating studio moored at hampton court we just decided how to start this one would we'd all go and jam you know for a week or so let's start playing together again and after that came the vision so it was a true sort of floyd writing partnership again well that sounds to me like something that needs development but it could almost be if i mean i have nothing to say [Music] it was a happier pink floyd that continued recording the division bell throughout 1993 happy together but nonetheless compelled to gaze once again back into their past for the closing track high hopes [Music] the taste was sweet the nights of wonders when you think about how many different versions you know different lead songwriters they've had and yet there's something that links it all and certainly they managed to make the changes evolutionary and gradual and always maintaining a certain kind of sound more than a decade after the division bell was released the pink floyd lawsuits had subsided and the band had been put on ice bob geldof wanted the four surviving members of the group to reunite as the climax of his live eight event a task akin to making poverty history he opened negotiations with david gilmour i really don't do the hard sell because i don't want to do it to him you know and he's desperate not to do this it's i i can see it he's not going to do it and i just have to say one no one in pink floyd worlds feels that you guys ever said goodbye properly and that's true two it's 20 minutes you know it's 20 minutes uh oh we're two going on tour spare me don't tell me that the pink floyd getting back together again will not seize the entire that's the thing that makes this totally different gilmore said no geldof contacted waters who called gilmore who called geldof and so on eventually four men buried the axe and agreed to play together just one more time as pink floyd we had a meeting with roger and he wanted to do other songs and basically david said look they've asked pink floyd to play and we're pink floyd so we're going to do these songs and if you would like to play them with us that'd be great so he was very humble actually roger was and he knew that he realized that but he loved it and to me it was also very good to be able to get back onto speaking terms after all the bickering with roger over the years and for us to maybe grow up a little bit and become adult human beings in some sort of reasonable relationship for that moment [Applause] mummy um it was it was terrific from the playing point of view it's really easy and really nice and and fun to play together i mean for me playing with roger the relationship between the bass player and drummer is slightly sort of special because you sort of just intuitively generally know which mistakes we're going to make next [Music] great heavy rogers standing next to me and playing the date it did bring back memories and a little bit of emotion [Music] i think it's great that that happened i really i really i think that was great and if if that's the only time that we get to sort of draw a line under it well then so i'd like to do more of it i thought it was really cool i thought it was very interesting musically and emotionally and philosophically this vast numberless constituency gathered about because these four men said enough's enough this single thing is important enough to put aside these pathetic misgivings of the past there was nothing more potent or symbolic on that night that these four old geezers playing so beautifully laying their own ghosts to rest and the thing is it worked there are 20 million children in school now because of what went on all during that week and emblematic of that week was this signature group and this great moment in their lives i think body language was funny roger seemed yeah i'm back you know sort of very pleased and the others were kind of like that a bit you know we were a family you know we went through divorce my marriage and we went through divorce and um don't know who divorced too but anyway i didn't i didn't feel like a family um i feel you know there are connections that i feel with for you know with my mother and my brother that i don't feel for anybody that i was in pink flight with it's very like a family and you get sick of each other in the way that you do in families and you get um this wonderful honesty um you know shouting at people telling them how useless they are and what they've done wrong it's a bit like the monsters if you know what i mean well there it is i think you can pass your verdict as well as i can my verdict is that it is a little bit of a regression to childhood but after all why not [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] i'll let you taste [Music] are you distressed [Music] i would love to go out and play floyd music again stubborn isn't the work we're talking about um you know leading a horse to water but you can't make it drink well these horses can't even be led to the water i don't think it will happen but i think well you can ask dave when you speak to him [Music] a dark comedy chiller coming up on bbc one max von siddow stars in stephen king's needful things next oh

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