PHILOSOPHY - Epistemology: Three Responses to Skepticism [HD]

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The problem with inference is that it can be highly subjective. If I have a set of beliefs about how the world must be working, that will influence what I believe is "rational", causing me to make inferences that conform to my belief system yet are not necessarily true.

"common sense" is obviously not a means to approach truth. There are many things accepted by even mainstream science that do not agree with common sense. Common sense tells us the earth is flat and we remain stationary while the heavens revolve around us. That's just one example, but there are many more i'm sure you can think of.

👍︎︎ 51 👤︎︎ u/farstriderr 📅︎︎ Jul 29 2016 🗫︎ replies

I liked the first one until it went back to something I haven't heard in a ling time. An idea of perfect God. And then saying you couldn't think of a perfect God if there wasn't a perfect God...like...what? There was a jump, no explanation other than an imperfect being can't imagine perfection, but that's not explained.

Just forget the fact that no one can actually imagine an all powerful God really, because all powerful would require for example that they could make an immovable object, yet if they are all powerful can move it so in fact they either can't make immovable objects or they can't move all possible objects, you can't satisfy both and I certainly can't imagine something that can even if someone claims they can imagine it.

So the first one doesn't even apply to me, since I can't even imagine a perfect all powerful all knowing and all good being, just like I can't imagine the 4th dimension, or imagine a blue car that is red.

Even if you could imagine it however, I STILL fail to see why an imperfect being imagining something means it exists, either it exists and so some fundamental change in chemistry occurs in your brains causing the neurons and such to be in a such a way that you can imagine this thing, if so then that could have occurred by another means, if it's not due to your physical brain being altered then we're getting into basically magic aren't we, or at least "souls", but you can't know that you're not in the first example so it doesn't matter what is actually true but rather what could be true.

👍︎︎ 7 👤︎︎ u/JoelMahon 📅︎︎ Jul 30 2016 🗫︎ replies

Summary: In this Wireless Philosophy video, Jennifer Nagel (University of Toronto) looks at three historically influential responses to the challenge of skepticism. We start with René Descartes’s efforts to prove that God would not let us be chronically deceived. Next, we examine Bertrand Russell’s efforts to disprove the skeptic through a strategy called ‘inference to the best explanation’, and we finish with G. E. Moore’s common sense approach.

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👍︎︎ 12 👤︎︎ u/wiphiadmin 📅︎︎ Jul 29 2016 🗫︎ replies

I'm skeptical about this video...

👍︎︎ 5 👤︎︎ u/degelia 📅︎︎ Jul 30 2016 🗫︎ replies

What would a world without the demon look like? What tool could I possibly use in such a world to prove that that world is indeed real? If the imagined world is functionally indistinguishable from the real world, then why is it a meaningful distinction to make?

Im inclined to think that whatever we happen to experience is by definition reality, since the only useful definition of reality is that which we experience.

👍︎︎ 5 👤︎︎ u/max10192 📅︎︎ Jul 30 2016 🗫︎ replies

ELI5: Why is skepticism a problem? I thought critical thinking was kind of a good thing?

👍︎︎ 19 👤︎︎ u/CommanderGumball 📅︎︎ Jul 29 2016 🗫︎ replies

Skepticism is super important (in particular, I favor Humean skepticism). But it becomes a problem when the amateur philosopher accepts skepticism as absolute truth, disregarding the arguments against it as well as the practical arguments for something that skepticism can immediately defeat. It halts philosophical progress, which is why there are so many philosophers who suspend the radical skeptic's views in order to approach a different sort of truth - one that allows us to move forward in our daily lives and to perfect the systems we have in place to determine truth.

Edit: I should also mention that amateurs often go too far in the opposite direction and boldly cling to scientism or new atheism. This, I think, is not just a fault in their epistemology, but also in their politics (which create such dogmatic perspectives). It even happens among very well-educated people. For instance, I have a friend who is usually very on-point with his evaluations of Marx, but he takes the whole "historical materialism" thing a bit too far, so that he advocates a sort of scientism rather than giving a nuanced argument about the facts of oppression in relation to ontological claims concerning the world around us.

👍︎︎ 3 👤︎︎ u/Alwayswrite64 📅︎︎ Jul 30 2016 🗫︎ replies

I have a few questions regarding Moore's argument.

I understand that it seems logical to say that I have a hand, but what does that do for the case where the evil scientist is just telling me I have hands and in reality I'm just like Flubber or something?

How can someone know something without proving it? Isn't that almost the whole point of skepticism?

I take it to believe that Moore is really saying: "Based on my experience, these things are real. In fact, based off of how common these things are, relative to things that disprove them, it makes sense to say they are all real.", but isn't this just saying odds are x, not really proving x is the case? Sorry if this last part isn't really organized.

👍︎︎ 2 👤︎︎ u/ImpeachJohnV 📅︎︎ Jul 29 2016 🗫︎ replies

Skepticism is a good thing in general. You can have an open mind and still be a skeptic.

👍︎︎ 3 👤︎︎ u/ashdelete 📅︎︎ Jul 29 2016 🗫︎ replies
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my name is Jennifer Nagel I teach philosophy at the University of Toronto and today I want to talk to you about three ways philosophers have tried to solve the problem of skepticism the Cartesian way the Rosselli in way and the Mauryan way the Cartesian way comes to us from Rene Descartes meditations published in 1641 you'll recall from the last video that Descartes dramatizes the skeptical problem with a scenario involving you and an evil genius who is determined to send you all kinds of misleading impressions after stirring up maximal doubt dick Hart asks whether there is anything you can know for sure what about your own existence hey it looks like the evil genius couldn't possibly deceive you about that for him to deceive you about anything you have to exist as long as you're thinking about anything you can know for sure that you exist as a thinking being it's not easy to leverage this one item of knowledge into a larger solution to the skeptical problem but Descartes notices there's one more thing he has at his disposal as a thinking being whether or not he's being deceived he's aware of a great diversity of ideas within his mind although at this point he's not yet sure whether these ideas represent anything real he observes that some of his ideas represent greater and lesser things and his greatest idea of all is his idea of an infinite and perfect being that's an amazing idea in fact it's so amazing Descartes thinks that it couldn't come from an imperfect being the only possible source for such a great idea is an infinite and perfect God so God they for exists now if the universe is run by a good and all-powerful god Descartes argues we can't be trapped in an endless dream of unreality or left in the clutches of an evil demon who deceives us all the time when we think carefully Descartes maintains will see that the skeptics global bad case is not really possible an evil demon can't possibly exist in a world with God and we can prove this God clearly plays a very important role in the Cartesian response to skepticism and from the start critics have raised worries about de cartes way of trying to prove the existence of God in particular it's not obvious that he's on safe ground as he reasons about the sources of his ideas if he's still at that point supposed to be taking very seriously the idea that there could be an evil genius distorting what seems true to him but whether or not you like the Cartesian strategy you might wonder whether meaningful responses to skepticism have to take the very ambitious step of trying to show that the skeptics bad case is flat-out impossible a different strategy would be to allow that the bad case is possible but then argue that we still have very good reasons to think it isn't actually real this is Bertrand Russell's strategy unlike Descartes Russell thinks you can never have an airtight logical proof that anything is real beyond yourself and your experiences and in particular it's logically possible that your entire life is a dream however Russell argues we have no good reason to accept the hypothesis that were dreaming and two good reasons at least two good reasons to accept the common-sense hypothesis that our experiences come from ordinary physical objects first the common-sense view is simpler Russell says it's the best explanation of the regular patterns in our experience second common-sense is our starting point the existence of the outer world is one of the instinctive beliefs on which all knowledge is ultimately based according to Russell were only entitled to reject an instinctive belief when we discover it's inconsistent with other instinctive beliefs but our belief in the outer world isn't like that if we believe in a real outer world we can come up with a perfectly consistent scientific story about how perceptual experience generally works and even about how dreams are ordinarily caused Russell thinks that the sceptical argument is powerful enough that we should feel a slight element of doubt in any judgment we make about the outer world but he also thinks that our reasonable judgments are still strong enough even with that shadow of doubt to count as knowledge skepticism is a remote hypothetical possibility the doesn't bar us from gaining knowledge through ordinary sense perception or more systematically through science some critics of the Roselia response to skepticism have wondered whether he's entitled to say that the existence of the outer world is the simplest explanation of our experience after all there's something simple about saying that all experiences come from one evil genius rather than from millions of outer objects other critics have wondered whether it makes sense to talk about having knowledge while keeping a shadow of doubt in the picture even if Russell makes the case that it's simple and reasonable to have common-sense beliefs it's not entirely clear that he's given an adequate defense of the notion that these reasonable beliefs should count as knowledge if you're looking for a response to skepticism that sweeps away doubt you may prefer the Mauryan approach GE Moore doesn't think you have to prove that God in order to know that there's an outer world and he doesn't even think you have to reflect on the ways in which the outer world provides a good explanation of your experience if you want to prove that the outer world is real just look at your hands or your legs or any objects around you here is one hand and here is another hands our external objects therefore external objects are real if the skeptic suggests you don't really know that your hands are there in front of you Moore says you should fight back by accusing him of being ridiculous and you should brush off his demands for proof sometimes you can know things like the fact that you have hands without being able to prove them similarly you can just know that you aren't dreaming right now even if you can't prove it something odd about Moore is that he says you can prove that the external world is real while also saying you can't generally prove that your hands are real but notice that the claim about the external world is the kind of general theoretical claim that philosophers make and the claim about your hands is a very basic fact about particular ordinary things the fact that there's a hand in front of you right now is so basic it's hard to think of anything more basic you could point to as a reason to believe it if the skeptic tries to undermine common-sense everyday knowledge with some fancy philosophical argument you should have doubts about that argument and not about basic common sense so Moore actually agrees with the skeptic that if you were in the bad case dreaming in a bath then you wouldn't know there's a hand in front of you but he points out that this is a big if more things your common sense knowledge would only be in trouble if you were actually in the bad case and the skeptic hasn't proved that you are the flipside is that if you really do know there's a hand in front of you then you know you're not in the bad case the outcome of the battle between Moore and the skeptic depends on your starting point if you start with common sense Moore looks pretty good but even if you like the strategy of being stubborn in the face of skepticism and clinging to common sense you might wonder about why skepticism ever felt appealing and you might wonder whether the skeptic is making some mistake that we could diagnose or whether skepticism might even be self undermining the next video in this series explores these questions by looking at three more contemporary ways of trying to solve the problem of skepticism you
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Channel: Wireless Philosophy
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Keywords: Khan Academy, Philosophy, Wireless Philosophy, Wiphi, video, David Hume, Rene Descartes, GE Moore, Bertrand Russell, Skepticism, Jennifer Nagel, University of Toronto, epistemology, theory of knowledge, course, lecture, international baccalaureate, doubt, certainty, common sense, brain in a vat
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Length: 9min 50sec (590 seconds)
Published: Fri Feb 19 2016
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