PHILOSOPHY - Baruch Spinoza

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I thought this was an excellent breakdown, but the narrator started laying his opinion on pretty thick at the end. I didn't care for that much.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 15 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/[deleted] πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Jun 12 2015 πŸ—«︎ replies

The video's explanation of Spinoza's motivation focuses too heavily on the Stoic influence. A better articulation of Spinoza's project, the drive many folks overlook, is found in the Treatise on the Emendation of the Intellect.

Spinoza writes, "After experience had taught me that all the things which regularly occur in ordinary life are empty and futile, and I saw that all the things which were the cause or object of my fear had nothing of good or bad in themselves, except insofar as [my] mind was moved by them, I resolved at last to try to find out whether there was anything which would be the true good, capable of communicating itself, and which alone would affect the mind, all others being rejected - whether there was something which, once found and acquired, would continuously give me the greatest joy, to eternity."

The pursuit of the true good, the greatest joy, is not an attitude of Stoic acceptance or balance. Spinoza did not abandon ordinary life due to discomfort; he abandoned the ordinary because it is "empty and futile". Spinoza wants to find "the greatest joy, to eternity."

That's his motivation. That's his project. He wants to Know the true, eternal, greatest joy.

It's a mysticism and hopeful idealism that folks often overlook or dismiss.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 5 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Quidfacis_ πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Jun 13 2015 πŸ—«︎ replies

Spinoza is amazing. Talk about cautious optimism!

Fun fact: he was Einstein's favorite philosopher.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 17 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/booksWasHere πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Jun 12 2015 πŸ—«︎ replies

For whatever it's worth, I'm a pastor of a church and I agree with everything that Spinoza taught. I think the Christian world, at large, has a very narrow view of God and how He operates. I think Spinoza's point is spot on that God is everything and that understanding God means observing our world around us.

A personal viewpoint I hold is that faith, science, and philosophy are all working towards the pursuit of truth. Truth is a constant and one day all of these factions looking for truth will find it and agree on what that truth is.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 36 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/[deleted] πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Jun 12 2015 πŸ—«︎ replies

are there any prominent criticisms of Spinoza?

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 2 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/coolasafool462 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Jun 13 2015 πŸ—«︎ replies

So I understand the latin breakdown of pantheism and atheism, but from a really practical standpoint is there really any difference? Or is the only real difference is that pantheism is more or less a way to retain the word, god, through scientific perspective?

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 2 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/PBlackII πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Jun 13 2015 πŸ—«︎ replies

Why is this getting down voted? (just curious, I don't really have an argument for or against) -Btw, I love this series of videos, it's always my "go to" when someone asks about complex ideas that I'm not able to truncate/distill.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 4 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/ImAProfessional1 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Jun 12 2015 πŸ—«︎ replies

I love Spinoza! I always thought of his work as a Western counterpart to Eastern Philosophy.

My SO bought Spinoza's 'Ethics' at the same time I bought 'The Way of Zen' by Alan Watts and those books, while being on opposite sides of the spectrum writing-wise, contained just about the same content.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 5 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/[deleted] πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Jun 12 2015 πŸ—«︎ replies

Alan Watts does a few lectures on him and they are great. Watts has a great way of explaining things if you find Spnozia confusing.

Edit: Spinoza

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 4 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Mr_Locke πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Jun 12 2015 πŸ—«︎ replies
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Baruch Spinoza was a 17th century Dutch philosopher who tried to reinvent religion, moving it away from something based on superstition and ideas of direct divine intervention to being a discipline that was going to be far more impersonal, quasi scientific and yet also at times serenely consoling. Baruch - the word means blessed in Hebrew, was born in the Jewish quarter of Amsterdam in 1632, a thriving central Jewish commerce in thought. His ancestors were sephardic Jews who'd fled the Spanish Peninsula following the Catholic conspired expulsion of 1492 Baruch, a studious, highly intelligent child, received an intensely traditional Jewish education. He went to the local Jewish school, the Yeshiva and followed all the Jewish High Holidays and rituals But gradually he began to distance himself from the faith of his ancestors. "Although I have been educated from boyhood in the accepted beliefs concerning Scripture", he later wrote with characteristic caution, "I have felt bound in the end to embrace other views". His fully fleshed-out views would to be expressed his great work 'The Ethics', written entirely in Latin and published in 1677. In The Ethics Spinoza directly challenged the main tenets of Judaism in particular and organized religion in general. God is not a person who stands outside of nature there is no one to hear our prayers or to create miracles or to punish us for misdeeds. There is no afterlife man is not God's chosen creature. The Bible was only written by ordinary people. God is not a craftsman or an architect, nor is he a King or military strategist who calls for believers to take up the Holy Sword. God doesn't see anything, nor does he expect anything. He doesn't judge. He doesn't even reward the virtuous with the life after death. Every representation of God as a person is a projection of the imagination and everything in the traditional liturgical calendar is pure superstition and mumbo-jumbo. However, despite all this, remarkably, Spinoza did not declare himself an atheist He insisted that he remained a staunch defender of God. God plays an absolutely central role in Spinoza's ethics. But it isn't anything like the God who haunts the pages of the Old Testament. Spinoza's God is wholly impersonal and indistinguishable from what we might variously called 'nature' or 'existence' or a 'world soul'. God is the universe and its laws God is reason and truth. God is the animating force in everything that is and can be. He is not in time and he cannot be individuated. Spinoza writes: "Whatever is, is in God and nothing can exist or be conceived without God." Throughout his text, Spinoza was keen to undermine the idea of prayer. In prayer, an individual appeals to God to change the way the universe works. But Spinoza argues that this is entirely the wrong way around. The task of human beings is to try to understand how and why the universe works the way it does and then accept it, rather than protest at the workings of existence by sending little messages up into the sky. As Spinoza put it beautifully but rather caustically: "Whoever loves God cannot strive that God should love him in return". In other words only a deeply distorted and infantile narcissism would lead someone that wants to believe in God and then to imagine that this God would take an interest in bending the rules of existence to improve his or her life in some way. Spinoza was deeply influenced by the philosophy of the Stoics of ancient Greece and Rome. They had argued the wisdom lies not in protest against how things are but in continuous attempts to understand the ways of the world and then bow down peacefully to necessity Seneca, Spinoza's favorite philosopher, had compared human beings to dogs on a leash being led by the necessities of life in a range of directions. The more one pulls against what's necessary, the more one is strangled. And therefore the wise must always endeavor, to try to understand ahead of time how things are. For example what love is like or how politics works. And then change their direction accordingly so as not to be strangled unnecessarily. It is this kind of stoic attitude that constantly pervades Spinoza's philosophy. To understand God, traditionally means studying the Bible and other holy texts. But Spinoza now introduces another idea. The best way to know God is to understand how life and the universe work. It's through a knowledge of psychology, philosophy and the natural sciences that one comes to understand God. In traditional religion believers ask special favors of God. Spinoza proposes instead that we should understand what God wants and we can do so in one way above all - by studying everything that is. By reasoning we can exceed to a divine eternal perspective. Spinoza made a famous distinction between two ways of looking at life. We can either see it egoistically from our limited point of view. As he put it: sub specie durationis (under the aspect of time) or we can look at things globally and eternally: sub specie aeternitatis (under the aspect of eternity). Our nature means that we'll always be divided between the two. Sensual life pulls us towards a time-bound partial view. But our reason and intelligence can give us unique access to another perspective. It can quite literally allow us - and here Spinoza becomes beautifully lyrical - to participate in eternal totality. Normally we call bad, whatever is bad for us, and good whatever increases our power and advantage. But for Spinoza, to be truly ethical means rising above such local concerns. It might all sound forbidding, but Spinoza envisaged his philosophy as a route to a life based on freedom from guilt, from sorrow, from pity or from shame. Happiness involves aligning our will with that of the universe. The Universe God has its own projects and it's our task to understand rather than rail against these. The free person is one conscious of the necessities that compel us all. Spinoza writes, the wise man, the person who understands how and why things are, possesses eternally true complacency of spirit. Needless to say these ideas got Spinoza into a very deep trouble. He was excommunicated from the Jewish community of Amsterdam in 1656 The rabbis issued a censure known as 'cherem' against the philosopher. It went by the decree of the angels and by the commander of the holy man - we excommunicate, expel, curse and damn Brauch Spinoza with all the curses which are written in the book of law cursed he be by day and cursed be he by night. Cursed be he when he lies down and cursed be he when he rises up. Spinoza was forced to flee Amsterdam and eventually settled in The Hague, where he lived quietly and peacefully as a lens grinder, and private tutor till his death in 1677. Spinoza's work was largely forgotten down the ages. Hegel took an interest, as did Wittgenstein and several other twentieth century philosophers. But from many perspectives Spinoza's work constitutes a warning about failures of philosophy. The ethics is one of the world's most beautiful books. It contains a calming perspective for storing take on life. It replaces the God of superstition with a wise and consoling pantheism. And yet Spinoza's work failed utterly to convince any but a few to abandon traditional religion and to move towards a rationalist, wise system of belief. The reasons are in a way simple and banal. Spinoza failed to understand, like so many philosophers before and since, that what leads people to religion isn't just reason, but far more importantly: emotion, belief, fear and tradition. People stick with their beliefs because they like the ritual, the communal meals, the yearly traditions, the beautiful architecture, the music and the lovely language read out in a sinagoge or church. Spinoza's Ethics arguably contains a whole lot more wisdom than the Bible. But because it comes without any of the Bible's supporting structure it remains a marginal work, studied here and there at universities in the West. What the traditional religion, that Spinoza thought outmoded in the 1670s, continues to thrive and convince people. If we're ever to replace traditional beliefs, we must remember just how much religion has helped along by ritual, tradition, art and a desire to belong. All things that Spinoza, despite its great wisdom, ignored it as peril in his bold attempt to replace the Bible.
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Published: Fri Jun 12 2015
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