Pascal Flammer x Kazuo Shinohara ; The Difficult Double

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hello everybody and who's going to speak without microphone - don't worry it will be short the real center of merit entries of his name not me or us or our to do with this Oscar plumber we are very happy to have Pascal power here he was here the whole afternoon barracuda WX treatise in an American journey which is delight say it was very nice at the same time we feel it was a good opportunity today and it's an experiment that's also why we try to mobilize as much as we could you and try to also find out to the people have to say how the school works because we will be here with our chair so there's still a lot to learn but more importantly I would like to just show the through this pass called plumbers presentation this lecture is we are as far as we are concerned the first it's also an improvement number zero in a series of lectures which we call the difficult double typical double is a very specific set of lectures which after this while this semester will be twelve every week more or less in the next semester in which we ask a very specific very talented Yeomans practicing architect who has done a set of important works in our opinion to talk in the one hand about his or her work or the offices work to talk about the specific in a way given other architects because we believe that architecture we practices is always in relation to that cultural context now in this case it was not very difficult to think who we should ask Moscow to talk about so it felt relatively natural ask him to debate or discuss on the one hand because he will show how does work or some of his works so projects which he particularly want to talk about and his work so whether that relationship is direct or indirect it's all up to Pascal in the end I mean we're very curious to hear and at the same time we obviously are curious to hear his explanation of his own world simcha maybe I'm only there till to tell you a couple of elements about Pascal a scarf lumber for the ones who do not know we believe Pascal is probably the most talented architect of his generation at this moment in Switzerland he found all of us in the sense that we believe that there's a very interesting need to change photons among the set of Architects in Europe at the same world and we believe it's very much part of that some of us are are too he started this practice properly in 2006 as before and even afterwards been teaching in many different places specifically in Indonesia and at Harvard locally or toffee and is currently working on a whole set of different projects I mean I see houses that a big apartment he has been murdered a couple of important prices most which the Swiss Art Award in 2006 the Bison architecture award and most recently the best house of Switzerland for I suppose and house of the houses that he has pictured he be filled to us tonight I do not feel I need to introduce Gazoo shihara first of all because I believe everybody needs to know him and apart from that the other things we are supposed to know according to Pascal I hope the latest example thank you very much thank you for the invitation so the first feature of this about order we see something here in the series of Windows it is about oneness to see the walls and the ceiling our own white plaster there is no joint and pitched roof traction also helps make out of the walls and one thing we call it one but it is also about fragmentation of fragments you see in the back there's a piece of step staircase coming into this space which with a knife of the staircase is only the function height so it appears somewhere in the space another debate included the door the Dukan hardly see and this staircase continues and curve somewhere is also about material due to the contrast of white plastered wall that has no trace the path no traces of man opposed to the concrete and I would say the fact of putting it both at the same time completely reference those about structure the pillar you see horizontal beam but maybe the most it is about symbolic space the beam seems to be in fresh position of forces of a roof would have if it was straight for the electrons out of the force of the roof we would have a different form until retell to be over dimensions to hold this little space and she know Agha as far as I know didn't take a picture himself but he controlled everything to the left face office so he certainly strongly who can competing on this conceited way to look at this face we have this killer in the middle that is so presence and I find at the same time it has a it has a balance but because of its loudness or absence of any meaning I know it also leaves us in a again in the absence of the dignity to leave this is another space so fast no harder for me use menu one of the biggest contrast I can imagine to the first picture here all is painted in a round garden anything usually if an architect pains everything in the same color it's a sign construction usually when an architect 1 subtract 2 uses white because the white color and up we're all connotations of Pacino the opposite he takes the color and has the most amount of compassion it's gold gold is the color I think better the color of the highest idea of our culture churches the Cal the Calvary found gold is the color of symbols and read the votes you know how I use this here gold and at the same time he extracts it solves hi Ricky then there's another thing Tejada is working mostly offered from Japan reconstructed Japan had a lot of influence from the weapons defeat your passionate modernist influence Uehara was in a heavy struggle with this influence and kind of fighting it and I find it very remarkable Shinohara Oh how's that he took back key element of his enemy standing proportions coming from the West and it's the axial symmetry so I can hardly think of the contemporary architects is so horribly leaving legally no opposition's next one this is another state session Omega and this I also want to show you the concept of contradictions I think he combines here two most principal ways to build or to do architect earn the right hands have the idea of adding elements placed base wall ceiling and then you cut out on the left side you have the rusticity about corpses of the cold if you know how to put it in an exact middle left the one possibility another right other project to help fill the space an excellent when I was a student I saw this plan and it seems to be quite normal plan of a second floor or upper floor normally house somewhere some bedrooms again bathrooms and then you realize so I realized that there is something very deep it has two stairs and not like your own VGA or so that would make one stair that is a kind of follow through the building and the other one is a shortcut no it has two times the same simple relatively almost shitty scale and I was wondering oh wow how why does one do two spares and I started to fantasize about two stairs and started actually while I was also doing project student to think about a project with two stairs imagine if you have whatever house and you have two times the same there your entire house is completely put into question it's no more clear you should go up on the left if you should go up on the right where does it lead to why do we do stairs just a simple amplification I find make up a house actually chanting years of unanswered questions next one so this is this project I would like to show and I made out of this topic we took spare we were asked to think of our own architecture office and we were asked to look for a time I chose a garden in Zurich surrounded by some nice trees next and this is the project a model of the project have it look the very end it's a house completely out of concrete all the pillars and all beings Oh concrete the building that has three floors above ground and one middle ground next I'll show you now how to do stability they say you would work at my office would enter here say hello to the Secretary will oak around take in this stair next so you would enter a big store walk up the stairs next and arrive in that space you will take somewhere your system works in the computer next let's say I will come to the office or somebody who needed me I would also take this walkway say hello and then take these stairs next which is a flying stair that goes on earth upper floor has no openings on the ground on the first floor so nobody would see me and I will go further up into the top floor next and the right here so me myself I will then go into here into mine I see from here on I could also go to the library which is needs or on this side to the meeting room with the office if against can't see would arrive here either computer guys from the office or he would come to my I could go from here on down next so we'll take these stairs going down next down the valley in the first episode with the working people's next or first they could also come up me let me talk about structural it has a concrete core in the middle around stairs and this concrete cores are from here on there is four days this one of course this one and in the back also symmetric to this one this length is around 8 meter and this is about 16 meter so trust too much to stand with a premie centimeter thick plate what happened is being closed or the ceiling here from here to here but since it's so long it actually is bigger than the middle in order to be able to spend here this is pay here goes from here to here and think it's too long it's actually pulled up by a pillar unto the roof so it's a tragic inner attraction the next play this one here is hang out in it two pillars which are also action and then the only people in the middle that is a real killer depressions next one if you put the three floors in the pocket of each other I think it is three principal source that we know in architecture first floor is one lady from the ground is the one where the pillars are in the middle like two Noguchi lamb or i city of Tani's by putting the peeler in the middle and not in a quiver you produce space with no limits first on the floor where you kind of work concentrated on your computer they're the pillars are in the corner the producing a very strongly defined space the third floor the top floor produces space where you have a back and with the back you watch to somewhere this is even exaggerated by this niche idea this protection behind and that is opening next I these are some pictures of maybe a little thing what I would like to say like in the first realistic to this building with about kind of some modernist with on Domino and in the second reading you actually realized that it doesn't really work because rupture leads hold up any kind of has some memory whatever smooth architecture on the top and actually in the third reading I find complexity of this building is actually the complex way space are linked in between each other that you would never imagine being such a small building and your attention is mostly I kind of mostly thinking of the pillars but I think they remove effective actually the connection of space excellent excellent this is a building by Shino Agha and it is a house so house for somebody listen Lee I think if the may be the most practical house that has ever been designed thinking of what you do in a house that's basically two spaces add a thing and it has a nice day the database is what you see you here in picture but also what you see here in town it is a horse and a the part of the plan is a almost square so this means it is something it's not a precise or it is just somehow occupying some earth and what it is on the earth and fire them by that the disk and it is I mean it's kind of a friend logic that is clear that is close to a square but that's the most efficient as soon as you made the square you want to also say something about this way so I find it's not a logically almost where that is maybe the next thing what I like about you no matter so much Shinohara is making the most precise guy about our position I know so as a consequence also this is the kitchen that the bath is just somehow landed into this almost square it's part of the bigger space when it comes to sleeping he proposes that man the earth or leaves the crust of our our planet from leaves this cross because down into the earth leaves also geographically today because he doesn't go down below this thing is some kind of a cellar no he goes leaves or sleeps in the protected curves no more light just surrounded by you can see that actually they leave the floor here is of concrete or wood it is actually really earth it's just rammed earth unlike heart and earth to find us a lot with this idea of living on the planet this cross just slightly transformed lives make it into the next one the next project I show you is the house in Judea so let's see we are waiting for years for building permission but we got bit and starting to angry if everything is fine next this is a picture of beautiful roads eurovia and I realized when I was asked to do this that kind of all new buildings are very ugly and trying to find out why and I thought that maybe eventually because of Detective just very ugly plaster but nowadays is being used in these areas so I started to think okay let's think of another material at a store our next one today I also thought let's do it in this insulation concrete of a non insulation conference with the fines up to require roster and in the insulation companies which is replace the sounds with nearly and the rebels with Leopold and basically what those materials do they just store air and the consequence their stability in compression is smaller say how's the convolve and more or less insulated for in this twisted a standard can only stand by paintings next after this and once before I was born to us exclusively thinking about the windows how could they be and I decided to put all aspects and of on concrete itself and therefore produce opening where you don't feel if you are if the door is open or closed but you always have profession that we live in a ruin in a concrete place with a complete absence of any fishing so don't put any framing over them at the consequence the windows ear edges person look outside and this is the expertise next this is the side where the thing is going to come it's a very small little buildings from the internet and this is the view display to see there are some existing houses you will achieve it from here and in basically a 1/4 building on one of these many terraces with the lipids both see next and in reality in some ways it's more complex it will touch the road and actually that's also speaking below that this is an image of so we matching this building is going to be you have to imagine if you arrived to this building up here on this way here how are you to put place you have some flowers and it smells some stuff from here on you turn and you walk over the building of the roof and you see bringing it into the ocean or into the sea and in when you're in front of the sea you turn back towards your left take down quite a big stairs and you answer kind of a small garden trees and I realized that I'd have to say it's just the holidays a little holiday house that declined in winter and in summer Sparky so I proposed to do is to make one space to make this but at the same time I want is one space to be two spaces with something it doesn't really exist right I mean something say the one space or two space but I would want to be it both one space into space so what I do is I just cut it in the middle by doing a slide wall that also be inside and as a consequence I think it will have twice same space once we kind of four windows that is space for spring and on the other hand it has the summer space that has same form and kind of knowing those of everything so what I like is this one space that also very then this room needs the sleeping room or this place room and actually I don't want to make a sleep in the room I think it has nothing to do with this house it's this kind of urgency you have to speak somewhere so I try to do treating room in a way that it is not connected to this one main group and my thesis is that this could work if I use their place here starting five steps before it needs that wall as a consequence if you go down five times twenty centimeters you are about one meter so you still need the opening of one meter at that place this meter could look like a gym or could look like some kind of opening unit I could imagine not really remembers of of the door of an Edison come at the keys that is a big missing it is concrete next level down come here woman s this is a facade next one to the next that is how I imagined okay now I show you these are housed in the yoga so the dual guys on the board to France next one next one you have to imagine this is a this place is very beautiful and very boring at the same time because there is nothing but you know if you're leaving a city of so it's relatively fine you don't need reunite house because you could go into bars and equally can go and eat the doesn't eat people so okay if you're living at them in a retreat or in the bank place you somehow need start that simulate or that is it makes you wanna have fun in life so I thought I have to do a house and it is okay and is it - I can imagine to be able to live two weeks in the house alone enums and what I kind of focus an idea proposed this since it only has the naturist you only talking I said okay let's produce three different ways to perceive major so it has basically three different rooms round for that is something everybody and it's the main space and it's also kind of the counter space that is I call oh so an animalistic space to space where you do not have the control of your surroundings after my journey for example a cow is around and this can happen is how is it I here for the head of the towers and the fear and you are sitting here so it's space where you do not dominate the space which is part of it and you just kind of exhibited to it and I find it also kind of a psychological space it is based about protection and about fear because you are you know you are not the other space on the top here is completely different I would say it's kind of the northland alien base of a villa this base with standing rooms and it stays where you walk from one room to the next room the windows here are only here to look at somebody so they're kind of like a picture or something it's a framed view where you have a very distant relation between what you see and what yourself what you see yourself and the space by its height they also produces kind of you know a spatial present in itself so the exterior is a very distant thing in the third space this is the one that is below ground this one here third space is very different the third space has no connection to the site it has only a is any too light so in space that it would be wherever in India or in San Paulo it is a site with no connection to the right so the idea was that kind of when you flip rather quickly from one of these throughout these three different conditions that these three conditions will be enough you know to to to be able topics and to make an interesting house met let's make a little walk through the building so you enter the building and kind of go down into the earth next so you arrive in the building and here you see two meters above ground where you seat and then the glass is straight on this height to where it's 2:30 up next you see the plan we are now standing here and basically all around this kitchen no the kitchen is usually at 90 another 75 and instead of going up I decided to go step down so we also have 90 that's what if you're next here we are all right now in the first in the upper floor you see now the high rules and the nature is becoming a painting next so we are here next and what you see here is a floor and this building has no toreador or smallest possible corridor I wanted that because I think kind of the idea of the corridor is psychologically very bad obviously you go up a corridor and you end up in your room and it's a dead end I like the idea of dead end is bad for people so what I propose is the smallest possible corridor almost kind of in a baroque way go out the churches sneak out you know the hidden place and go into the big rules so we have to do take one of the des stores will you come into this room and from here you're in a new system the way you will have one room to the next if we are doors that are peripheral so we walk from here to here here to here and if then the system yes it's a good like a goldfish but it's also system that is not a dead end so you can kind of continuously walk next it is nature good this picture here there's another thing you have to imagine usually I mean by the way you have to be deceiving of life because of regulations so it's kind of a Charlotte tied to the hata tape and you should be in a chalet or in this buildings in these cable buildings the two long walls are structural and in the front of the gables is glass because there's no business and what I wanted to do that you do not feel any structure in this face I made a hole in the worst point of the structure which is the middle of the beam exactly there where you shoot most of the moment are unique and I did this in order that you cannot read the building structurally even though I didn't explain it works actually very simple it has beams on the lower floor here and another one here another one here another one here and of course the point so this is a very big themes on the top and this is the D and the upper floors of E and then boards are only for N equals two family so it so there is actually very simple structures is very simple constructed systems so this round is here to destroy the ability to read we have something else which I find more and more now I realize this only after construction business is fragility no the sliding door this building goes into the glass and as you see it's a lot of very fragile connection house is almost about to is you know you can very easily Rohit taking out the corner and I have to say you'll find design very important I think we should build more buildings that are very fragile I think the common good point where with too many buildings that just can't take everything nothing by this we also start to have no more physical relation to two materials one just another picture of rock bathroom this is them actually fourth floor here on the very top in nature spare top the guest room they very importantly to label if you live kind of out in the street we need a place where you can invite guests you'll sleep and they need their place whether it's for The Hague get drunk that they can sleep so its place where they need the system justice policy those are the only space in this entire thing this is single one next one so now we take out actually all the business I will take stare down next stare down here we go 2-1 next this is the space that I've talked to you that has no connection to the outside is actually same line as ground floor just turned 90 degrees step aside and it only has is light that gets on light but no more correlation to outside next other gear turns one next one this is a also little house we are planning for a client development see in the north of the aisle skies I was kind to the Northland and we phases by x1 this is how it looks of X to some gravels a bit of moss no trees I'm gathering from presence of water and this author is actually then going into this again here kind of the topic of this house is what is there and what is there is basically stone and water maybe as a swing another five pragmatic relation to stone to walk just it's very physical rock thing but I have a very living um well the strange relation to walk through the find the ocean because the ocean has no weight the ocean is always a model or something like the oceans from this idea of a global somehow goes on but I don't really don't they cannot really physically understand the notion as well as good as I can stand a rock or stone so this building is about these two natural elements water and stone with a very different take perception in our heads hello when I proposed these two spaces one space this one it is base for the rocks is actually just kind of a land art idea it just gives the perimeter to an endless surface just defined you think to be hitting this wall will wherever it is I mean it's rocky road then there is another space it's this one and it's they leave difficult somehow to make a space that is about model know about I'm a model of something and I propose here nowadays that normally I would never do space of the heart circle exact half circle I'm quite sure it's a it's a nice narrow circle of space because no in half a circle you first have known person or you know that it's in architecture not possible only mathematically the real answer to the second thing also I think a half circle should pay to be a bit more than half the circle so your big get fast and you'll be hold held by the space or it should be a bit less than half the circle so you're more push out but is exactly though I'm quite sure these are three physical space to live in but on the same time I'm not compression now to defeat this idea of endlessness of concept of of the sea when these two totally different spaces they meet at this point with the strongest immediately destroy me I need you to know there is no we begun there is no article teacher from one to one one to the other needed going from one condition of the next condition this building has something else that I find very important it has here fire community and I think that this fire is kind of the soul or the tranquility it's also the do space that actually connects the three most important space the stone space constant space here also the entry space this is the let's rub so on the right whatever and go down and connect and go into kind of a co-working space this is a first trial how imagined is this content space where I don't know how like how how hardly it should stay hard outer circle thinking around retro looking to use some elements to soft it again down next and this is a view of the strong next house where the wing lands count aside situations which he owns evening sweetheart the problem of these houses that the ceilings are at one between 150 to 170 we can actually not work in one single floor and a hobby on the guy who owns it actually likes the house very much from the pearance he loves this kind of this activate the expression of his house come house so old or so with them kind of not contemporary so simple so up this close kind of intention and so and actually I like it too so what we supposed to do is to and then next like another thing that you have to understand it it's two houses with a shape like this a little bit each group B group like this and the other one is the pitch reflective since it's so old working 500 years old and you don't seem to picture this move kind of banks through its all these moves what we propose is to actually use exactly this building as a attic of cash which is poured concrete until the wall and on top of the seat off of the roof so just trying to capture is beautiful form then once the concrete is down we take out the wood and how to put insulation and then wood so it doesn't have is compression towards outside so towards our title just like a normal wooden bar inside it will produce a super crazy step produce like a church cuz we will just make a one base room base because it's something of a little ship the ship article is in English the knot man that it will you know this centrality in this direction Sochi and then on the other hand here and we will only produce some very small three people actually integrals will be in this area more or less immunogenic asleep in the dirt and the big space is actually also not really insulated with insulation country that only 30 centimeters means kind of a temp on the temperate and so this is printed in a model of what was going to happen and I thought kind of a real man needs a real entry so actually the only thing I will add and I wanna take you into the building from here we have display we do it and this is a pillar I found in the old building haha it has been extremely beautiful and so it will be kind of a concrete pillar that holds this sorry these hide till holes and then the feeling will just go up another seven meters here to into the nothingness yes this is the picture of this main takes quite large window which goes to a South and I hope that most of the energy you can already eat of this building up next yeah this is and with the window next so Tommy karma house Shinohara built this building is actually quite I mean it I feel a lot of good are towards not a built and the house which is basically here to here which is more or less another ground floor where you can eat the toe and then you go up to nicotine and about 3:30 3/4 of the space kind of a useless space they ain't that we with them has no function because it simply summer days so all this space here and this is a section through this area so is area this paces about nature or is about this surrounding because the earth thousands of much like home life it goes down so he just continues it in the house we use this way hey somehow coverage conserved beats and deadly is the picture of this base okay this is the house you never know when you will love it you know how Athena's kind of for periods and the further he goes the more for my freshmen complicated because I'm building a house in a house in Tokyo University building and I would like to give you one interpretation of that is no.2 which in America things I would like to show you one aspect that I like very much so these thing next to all it's postmodern expression it has four floors one for when I was there you were there it won't source a dealer somewhere you see the list um you know like two sub stairs the openings are a bit somewhere the shade is eat somewhere I can't not super miss extrusion to be disordered it like life I purchased a business and I find top floor is the opposite I'm very clear stay course it's kind of an odd shape face but in section it round this is a space that has only at the very start and at the very beginning a glass a window so actually when you are in the space you just nicely you know like rolled by the walls and as soon as you approach the ladder that the peripheries at the end of the banana you see only with Pinocchio but I like very much it when you are on the top Tokyo is a quite cow X eating lots of eating pieces when you are the top you start to see Tokyo you start to somehow understand Tokyo in a way that you can never do when you're on round floor because you're constantly no you walk through Tokyo you have constantly Alessandro and to warm you can kind of only understand Tokyo of its urban tissue when you lift yourself up and you look at it so I would say the top floor is the space where you can kind of understand Tokyo or start to understand Tokyo but at the same time you cannot understand because you're not contract that is definitely not that big a fight of my life either we can look at something and kind of understand it but we are a way of a bit of its reality or and this is the other conditioning is building you are in ground floor it's a mess and you're part of life so I like this contradiction I'm fine actually both are absolute spaces in one you are part of the kind of a political reality of the city you don't understand on the top you understand it that you are not part of the of the reality only looking so this is a picture of the entry floor I find it not super cow they but relatively counting the things are somewhere you also don't believe the outside you see fragments next one and then it is the top space so where you see where we have this window at the end and I find this also very important picture almost time I find you all see this thing you know that somehow nope that is Tokyo from this train station watching evening into a little multitude of lies that happen around there's one more topic that in my work is important that she on her neck almost in excellent it is the question oh that you when you build it as an architect do you produce play to a date or do you produce body fine Shinohara brings this to the absolute so we have here this place and even made it with some common ideas but they even dissolve kind of into force triangle rectangle square get the complete building when you add plates very odd stuff to prefer to produce hope but then when you're in it I find it he has constantly split between addition of plates and patient person also here if you move into another pillar this kind of place but it's also a continuous organism or continuously this is another I find very difficult project if a competition in 1980 the Germany and it is striking to see the fan he was born 25:26 of all days dream complexity of formal stuff he ended up with that is so we're social bollocks um without details and I want to show it because I think schemata and Gary on the only tool architects that were able to produce a liberation of all the stuff and I hide this building shows I almost like in the same way no when you stop don't start to care of anything anymore just completely free and for me building kind of an era called architecture of T she is only radical in the knowing the understanding of architecture next Shinohara men you have to quickly go back Shinohara stopped architecture I think in ages I think he was more or less ETI and he stopped producing he stopped working at university and hidden conditioning work and in 2006 2005 he made one last word detox and it's actually for the same client that where he already build the house with the earth and house in Vega same family and I don't know if this building is built or not but I find it from many levels maybe one of his most concentrated most concentrated buildings when he brought all together in one single building building with pitch room it's on a slope and he doesn't put the building parallel to the slope so when he is lightly perfect if light turn produces that in the ground or here the earth here you see the theta enters also part of the stage is kind of distant bollocks space and space with no function ground floor burning also he manages to adapt to the data so he can just enter here with the door and just produce enough space for the window in the toilet which is people downstairs it also has disappearance of embolic structure that it showed only one picture but it's actually an entire work on this symbolic structure we have a be kind of to ds-12 strangely one year and one year we have a little look sleeping room or tea room or something a room to go away tonight days is when you take the lever that black lager step up here and that the consequence you end up this race year also the first time he kind of makes he splits the space not according to Joan not according to construction but according to geometry he default that the outside is in your geometry center and not structure so again she no Naga were really about construction or it's also never really about constantly about trying things I mean it Shinohara died 206 when he made his plan thank you very much um I would say if somebody you're here to ask one or two questions I was with without more please reset difficulty there anybody from the public who died to be there I realized that it would be quite a difficult work to do this I had to make a time so I decided to just choose up as my belly once that I saw a mouse I went through the book and I forgot about this I at the Mount bearing for maybe question related to that you know of course you look at a work which is complete its beginning yes net and you also ends with this end because you are related to this work also possibly the other one you will simplify how do you deal with that when you go through the whole lifespan of it because you see all the time you see the moon when you see councilman excellent and good we need a project we put it down seven let me prepare to the next moving relation no I don't really I think I don't really react to him so consciously or some sorta technically or also wittingly depression I work more like lots of stuff in my head pops up we like it and then I want to fight kind of to it I like getting rid of what I like or that I like to include if you exclude it I think is relation with kind of of all architects maybe there are two because I'm interesting enough to someone we're getting fired for those in one way and Killam Nasim is maybe not ' I extrapolate and argue about honesty yeah how important is that your material try that required very important impression all these words yeah last question sakamoto important relationship people respect you say hi to masculine like testosterone very very much you see them no not at all i I you know I think Sakamoto is a reaction to these guys I mean Sakamoto just to be fair he had to continue it they can you be pretty a lot and I think this is completely out of the blue I think he could not say something you had to find it crazy and so he would say well totalitarian it's not really daylight is wrong I mean this I find this agency they are so soft also or so no but I think it's more a mean I mean there is clearly I mean there is a macho attack you it seems then you know I mean it's how certainly I think he was an of course all these other generation can we update that potatoes I mean when you go to Japan you take everybody is next that's what was my underneath for example have to check with go quite long one does a collection yeah and he actually take a fielding the last question you the link do movie disability to the future you mentioned something using their maybe pitbulls model I noticed most people should be our immediate I am double for smaller than zero you know so how again you know much about I mean deep you
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Keywords: Architecture, without, Content, FORM, Kersten, Geers, pascal flammer, Kazuo Shinohara, Japanese Architecture (Architectural Style), Postmodernism (Literary School Or Movement), japan, switzerland, valerio olgiati, san rocco, Switzerland (Country), swiss architecture, Zürich (City/Town/Village), ethz
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Length: 77min 14sec (4634 seconds)
Published: Thu Oct 01 2015
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