(silence) - (Clay) Hannah... I'm not going.
- Oh. This is 13 Reasons Why. - Oh, God. 13 Reasons. - Welcome to your tape. - (Clay) I'm not going. Not now. Not ever. - (Hannah) Why didn't you say
this to me when I was alive? - Whoa. - Yep. I've seen it. - (Mrs. Baker) My husband and I... We never got a note.
- Aw. - Okay. This kills me. - It's getting me to tears. - (Hannah) Hey, it's Hannah. Hannah Baker. - Oh, poor Clay. - (Hannah) I'm about to tell you
the story of my life. - Very dramatic. - (Hannah) More specifically,
why my life ended. - Mm. - (Hannah) And if you're
listening to this tape... - "You're one of the reasons why." - (Hannah) ...you're one
of the reasons why. - Oh my god. - (Justin) ...she saw, she lied
about it on those tapes, 'cause she's a crazy drama queen. - Dude.
- (Justin) ...herself for attention. - It's messed up. - (boy) ...secrets, Mrs. Baker. - (Mrs. Baker) Hidden secrets
are what killed her. - Yeah, with the suicide.
That's pretty controversial. - (Hannah) Maybe I'll never know
why you did what you did. But I can make you understand how it felt. - ♪ This is a wild game of survival ♪ - Yeah, 13... I watched it.
I watched all of it. - It kinda relates to real life, 'cause a lot of kids
are committing suicide, being cyber-bullied
or being bullied physically. - (baby voice) Did you get
to first base, Justin? - Get off me. I'm not saying anything. - (Bryce) Second?
- (Justin) [Bleep] off. - Toxic masculinity right there. - (Bryce) Third? - (Justin) Okay, assholes. Picture's worth a thousand words.
- Not cool. - (Bryce chuckles) That's hot. - Dude. What a jerk. - (Bryce) Oh yeah,
we're sending that shit around. - (Justin) No. No, Bryce.
- Such a dickhead move. - (girl) Oh my god. Seriously, Justin? - (teacher) People, phones. (phone vibrating)
Otherwise they're going away. - No. No, no, no! - (teacher) Thank you. - Oh God, it's so upsetting. - Seen that in my own
school unfortunately. - I couldn't imagine being
at high school with the cell phones. - This is the worst thing about growing up in the age
of technology. Nothing's private. - That's real. That really
happens with kids. We've had issues or things
we've been concerned about with students where I work, trying to make sure that
they know what's appropriate. They don't know. - There's parts of the show
that made me really mad, that made me feel like it was
glamorized and glossed over. And then there were parts
of the show that I really felt like started conversations
that we'd never had before. - Did you tell him to stop? - (Hannah) No. - (counselor) Did you tell him no?
- (hums sadly) - (sighs) This is so heartbreaking. - (counselor) Maybe you consented
and you changed your mind. - (Hannah) No, it's not like that. - Oh my gosh! - (counselor) Should we involve
your parents or the police? - (Hannah) No! - (counselor) If you don't
want to press charges against this boy, if you're not even sure
you can press charges... - Let him get away with it. - (counselor) ...then there
really is only one option. - What's the option? - (counselor) I'm not trying
to be blunt here, Hannah, but you can move on.
- How can you move on? - (counselor) ...you can move on. - You can't move on.
That's not really an option. - (Hannah) You mean...
- Nice counselor. - (Hannah) ...do nothing? - (counselor) If you won't confront him...
- I can't hear. - (counselor) ...then the only
other choice is to move on. - "Be a good little girl and go away." - (Hannah) I need to move on
and get over it. - (counselor) Hannah,
I didn't say get over it. But sometimes that's
the only other option. - That's not true. - No, there is another option. - (Hannah) Okay, I know.
(phone ringing) - (counselor) Hannah, you can sit down. You don't need to be in a hurry. - (Hannah) I need to get on
with things, Mr. Porter. If things aren't gonna change, then I just better get on with it, right? - (Porter) Hey, Ha-- Hannah. (door closes) - The other option is,
"Let's sit down and have a dialogue." This is a peer counselor, I'm assuming. This is somebody in a respected role whose job it is to help these people. - A lot of kids, they
don't know that there are some laws and regulations
counselors cannot cross, you know? Unfortunately, it's
a loophole in our system. - It's painful to watch. I've had students come to me
with some pretty heavy stuff. I even had a kid yesterday, just that he got thrown
against the lockers, was in tears. And I'm like, "You need to tell somebody." - Look at these lockers. They all look alike, right? Not this one.
- It's Hannah's. - (Clay) This one is special. It belonged to a girl who killed herself. - (Courtney) Clay, come on.
- Yeah. They don't want to talk about it. - (Clay) You see all these
"don't kill yourself" posters up on the wall.
- Yeah, suicide prevention. - (Clay) They weren't up before. They put them up
because she killed herself. And why did she do it? Because the kids here
treated her like shit. - You know what? Mental illness
is why she did it actually. - (Clay) But no one wants to admit it, so they paint over the bathrooms
and put up a memorial, because that's the kind
of school that this is. Everyone is just so nice until
they drive you to kill yourself! And sooner or later,
the truth will come out. - He's right. He's absolutely right. - It's a touchy subject obviously. It's portraying what bullying can do. On the other side, I can see
why people are complaining that it glorifies suicide. - It's so important
to talk about these things, because we don't talk about it. I worked in the news for five years. We never ever do a story on a suicide because it spawns more suicide. Sadly, people think to get
this kind of attention, the fear is that this will spawn
more behavior like that. And that terrifies me. - The suicide aspect of it
kind of worries me. My daughter who's in eighth grade has watched the whole series and stuff, and we've talked
a little bit about it too. It's good for us to talk about it. I'm glad that it's something
that, you know, it kinda creates conversations. - I don't know why it makes me tear up. I don't think that parents
realize the pressure that they're putting on their kids now. - (chuckling) Sorry. It just breaks my heart. We need to really address bullying. We don't take action until it's too late. - (FBE) Well, recently
we had the teens cast here react to the show as well.
- Yeah. - (FBE) And we wanted to show you
some of their thoughts. - Okay. Yeah, how do they feel about it? - (FBE) So for you, are the issues that the characters
from the show go through something that you can
personally relate to? - I'm interested to find out about this. - (Reina) Now that social media's major...
- Right? Social media. - (Reina) People can comment
about people's photos. Like, "Oh, they're ugly.
They shouldn't post that." - (Sydney) Being on a web series,
there are a lot of comments. - Yeah. You put yourself out there when you're on Adults React or Kids React or Teens React for sure. - (Seth) Someone in my class-- I think it was a year or two years ago-- actually killed themselves.
- Oh jeez. - We all know someone
who's ended their life sadly. - (Seth) When I first started
watching the show, it was really relatable, 'cause I saw how
everyone in the show was-- was not aware of everything
that they did until things happened. And I think that was that was kind of...
- Exactly. - (Seth) ...relevant to what
happened at my school. - Right.
- (Seth) Like, everyone all of a sudden cared. - That's interesting that he thinks that the awareness is really important. - I totally agree with him, because a lot of suicides happen because we do not pay attention
to the very finest details. And I think he relates to that, because he had a similar
experience with it. - Each kid kind of took their own--
what they could from it. You know, Seth had gone through it before. And he had gone through it
with his school. So he's gonna take something out of it. Everybody all of a sudden cares. And then what happens
when that caring goes away, you still have kids
that are struggling with it. - (FBE) So there have been
concerns from many, including psychologists, who feel that this show should
not be watched by young people. Some of the many reasons
are that they feel that it romanticizes
the concept of suicide and looks like a revenge fantasy
and could make... - I agree that I can see a lot of girls
glorifying her behavior. "Look at the attention it's gotten me. Everyone will think about me now." - (Leyla) I do think
it almost glorifies... - See, that's the other side. - (Leyla) ...which is terrible to say.
- Interesting. - (Reina) After I watched it, I was definitely not
contemplating anything. I was not thinking revenge
is the best way to go. I was thinking, "We need to stop this."
- Yeah. - (Reina) And I think it was more of a public service announcement saying...
- Yeah, exactly. - (Reina) ...bullying can happen anywhere. - (Will) With the show, it's an awareness.
- Yeah. - (Will) You never know what someone could be going through at home. - Right.
- (Will) You should really pay attention to it
and the message behind it. - Yeah. I agree with what he just said. Pay attention to the message behind it. - They're blinding themselves
to the thing of going, "Oh, you're glorifying suicide."
Wait a minute. Why isn't someone sending
a thing home going, "Hey, you should watch this,
because if your kid's a bully, this really points out what
repercussions can come from that"? - I'd be a fool if
I didn't realize or think that I haven't had contact with teenagers that have had feelings,
suicidal feelings for sure. I understand the concern
about romanticizing it. Death is so final, and you will
never know the consequences of what you've done
or how you destroyed people around you for sure. - It's great that you had
the teenagers react, because then it's teen to teen. So now you have us as parents reacting. And hopefully, you know,
when we talk about it, whoever's watching it,
whether it be a teen or maybe a teen with their parents, they can understand that
the parents have to be involved. - (FBE) So these were all clips from the Netflix series 13 Reasons Why. So have you seen the show at all?
- I haven't seen it. I just watched a little clips
that my daughter's shown me. - I have not seen the show,
but I know about all the issues that are going on around the show. - I've seen the first two episodes. To be honest, it's just too hard to watch. - I watched with my 16-year-old daughter
and my 17-year-old son. And watching it with them was, um, really opened up the door
for some interesting conversations all about, you know, everything
from bullying to, you know, um, rape and what is consent and suicide. - Yes. The reason that there's such a...
outrage or whatever from parents is because it's putting a mirror in front
of their faces of saying, "These are the issues
that your kids are dealing with that you're not." We got an email from
our son's school that said, "Hey, this is being talked
about and watched." Parents are throwing a stink:
"It glorifies suicide." The funny thing is is I asked my son. I said, "Are people
talking about this show?" And he's like, "Sometimes. A little bit." The talk among their age group
is not really that significant. The talk is significant around parents. - No, I've heard about it. The junior high I teach at, like, the kids were all talking about it. One of my former kids
committed suicide this year. And so we had three suicides
at our high school and one attempted. And one of them was a kid
I've known since he was a toddler. We've been going through
this specific thing in our district this year. - (FBE) So the show deals
with topics such as bullying, the objectification of women,
sexual assault, and ultimately suicide.
And these are heavy issues that the show portrays
as happening in high school. Do you feel these are issues
teens today have to face? - Absolutely. It actually is growing worse and worse
with all the social media exactly like what we've seen. - For sure, especially in this
day and age with phones. I read somewhere that it's become more... more prevalent nowadays
than just regular bullying. Because the person
that cyberbulls can hide. - Kids, teens are having all kinds of conversations with each other. Now it's all private. It's all personal.
And anything can happen. - Of course. And thanks to 13 Reasons Why,
we've been talking a lot about suicide, mental illness,
which is not really portrayed in this, which I think is a real misstep,
because that factors in. - It's pretty realistic. The kids that I know and work with
and teach and care about are-- they're under a lot of pressure. The adults that are supposed to be
there for them and help them. The scene with the counselor,
where he's rushed and the phone is ringing
and there's a lot going on, but he's still wanting to do
what's best for Hannah as she's walking out of the room,
I can relate to that. - If parents are like, "My kid
would never talk like that," then they're full of themselves.
I mean, you know. Just with language and behavior. And my first year in junior high, kids were sending pictures around
of girls and stuff like that that we were having to,
like, nip in the bud. - (FBE) And from your
perspective as a parent, is 13 Reasons Why okay
for young people to watch? - I think it is okay
for young people to watch. I don't think it glorifies suicide. - I think there's an age group. I don't think that someone
that is impressionable should be watching the show. Parents should watch it with their teen, regardless of what the teen
thinks or the parent thinks. They should watch it together. As long as there's communication,
I think it's fine. - My daughter, who's getting ready
to start high school, yeah, it's good for her to watch
and to talk about. My daughter who's getting ready
to start middle school, I definitely wouldn't want her
to watch it by herself. I would like to be there with her. It gives them feelings and emotions they can definitely relate to. - If there is a time where
a parent and a kid would sit down and watch this episode, then this would create a conversation between the parent and the kid. And this is a healthy discussion. - I love anything that sparks debate
and sparks conversation, because it's just an avenue
to learn and grow. However, I do think there
needs to be an age limit on when certain information
is disseminated to our kids. I agree completely with my son's
policy of his middle school of asking that parents either
watch it with their child or not let them watch it if they can't. - It's interesting, 'cause I've
thought about this one a lot. If you can get someone
to reflect on their actions based on this show, you know,
if they've bullied someone, if they've treated someone poorly and make a change or an apology or just smile at someone
and say "good morning" just to mix it up, I mean, I think
then you've made a difference.
"These are the issues that your kids are dealing with, but you are not". POW. There are a lot of truly clueless/ineffectual parents out there("not MY kid", really just a statement of ego), and if 13RW gets some to deal with the problems, then good.
at 4:31, I felt so irked. There's so many things wrong with the woman's statement. I feel like she's never been through any of these feelings.
Tacky video. We don't need uninformed people spouting off as if they know better than professionals who actually study these things. Why these React videos need to gtfo the Internet.
guys, i just heard about this show from the channel when they first react upon it with the teen. i dont really pay attention to it, but after i watched the parents react now i feel interested.
but im afraid, are this show as bad (in term of mental and emotional) as Black Mirror?. the 2nd episode (Fifteen Million Merits) already take a toll on me mentally and emotionally.
i want to watch this show, but i dont wanna feel like shit afterwards. should i watch it?.