SINCE 2014. >> WELL, THE LAWSUIT SAYS TIM BALLARD WAS AN UNPAID INTERN WHO WAS FIRED BY THE CIA, HIS LINKEDIN PAGE SAYS HE WAS A CIA OFFICER, HIS TWITTER UNTIL RECENTLY SAID UNDERCOVER OPERATOR AND THE CHURCH CALLED HIM A FORMER CIA OPERATIVE. SO I ASKED THE QUESTION TO HIM EARLIER THIS YEAR POINT BLANK. AND AS YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE HIS ANSWER DIDN'T EXACTLY MATCH ANY OF THOSE STORIES. >> IF SOMEONE HAD WORKED FOR THE CIA BUT MAY BE STRETCHED A LITTLE KNOW IT'S GOING TO SAY ANYTHING. KIND OF LIKE LET IT GO BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DO THAT. >> PETER, WARM CA IS A FORMER CIA CASE OFFICER WHO SAYS HE NEVER MET TIM BALLARD, BUT HE HAS QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY AFTER SEEING BALLARD LABELED IN PROMOTIONAL MATERIAL AS A CIA OPERATIVE TERM OPERATIVE NOT REALLY THE TERM USE WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. THERE'S NO THING AS AN OPERATIVE. YOU'RE EITHER A CASE OFFICER, ANALYST OR SUPPORT STAFF ARE FRANK MONTOYA WAS A SPECIAL AGENT WITH THE FBI FOR 26 YEARS. MOST RECENTLY SPECIAL AGENT IN CHARGE OF THE SEATTLE FIELD OFFICE. >> NETWORK OF THE SYRIAN. BUT YOU KNOW HOW THE CIA ABSOLUTELY WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM ON A LOT OF STUFF. >> WE SHOWED BOTH OF THEM. THE LAWSUIT FILED AGAINST TIM BALLARD ACCUSING HIM OF BEING AN UNPAID INTERN WHO FAILED A POLYGRAPH TEST AND WAS FIRED. THEY DO HAVE INTERNS AND NOT SURE THAT THEIR UNPAID. >> WE ALSO SHOWED THEM BALLARD'S TWITTER, BIO, QUOTE, CIA AND DHS UNDERCOVER OPERATOR. DO YOU TAKE THAT TO MEAN THAT HE WAS UNDERCOVER FOR THE CIA? THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT YET. AND WE SHOWED THEM THIS INTERVIEW WE RECORDED WITH TIM BALLARD IN FEBRUARY LONG BEFORE THE LAWSUIT WAS FILED >> THERE'S TOO MANY NBA'S PROBABLY HAHA. >> IS THAT IT ALL THE COOL STUFF I READ IT. WAS IT WITH A GENOCIDE? YEAH. JUST THE CIA IS IT WASN'T OPERATIONAL STUFF IS ANALYTICAL AND IT WAS AN ANALYST'S OFFICE OR POSITION NOT LIKE IT WASN'T LIKE HANDS-ON MAKE LIKE I SAID, ALL THE ALL THE COOL STUFF JOBS. YET AS AN ANALYST, HAVE YOU EVER HEARD ANYBODY REFER TO THEMSELVES AS AN ANALYST OFFICER? >> YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE AGENCY REFERRED TO MISTER CHRISTIE AGREEMENTS, NOT IN THE A'S. YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. ANALYSTS ARE IMPORTANT HUGELY IMPORTANT, BUT >> WHAT EXACTLY DID HE DO? IT ALWAYS EASY TO SAY, OH, I GOT TO HIDE BEHIND NBA, BUT HE ACKNOWLEDGES IT COOL STUFF WAS WHEN HE WAS A TEST SITE. SO, YOU KNOW IS THE CIA EXPERIENCE EVEN RELEVANT OTHER THAN TO TRY TO ENTICE PEOPLE INTO GIVING HIM MONEY? >> YOU'RE NOT SAYING YOU'RE JUST SAYING IT RAISES RED FLAGS ARE RAISED CERTAIN AT COMMUNITY. KIND OF CONFUSING THE, YOU KNOW, AND EVEN MORE SO FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. AT WHAT? WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN RIGHT? GET TO THE TRUTH. >> WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES TO ASK TIM BALLARD THAT QUESTION. ANOTHER FORMER CIA OFFICER WHO HAS TO NOT BE IDENTIFIED SAYS WHEN HE MET TIM BALLARD, BALLARD DOWNPLAYED HIS SERVICE STATING HE ONLY WORKED IN THE CIA WATCH OFFICE. SO IF SOMEONE YET BASICALLY SOMEONE WHO ANSWERS PHONE, THAT I WOULD NOT BE THE SAME THING AS FORMER CIA OPERATIVE. HARDLY. >> IT'S JUST BASICALLY MAKING COFFEE ANSWERING TELEPHONES. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T AT ALL IMPACT THEM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. THEY DON'T SEEM TO PURSUE IT. >> SO HERE'S WHAT WE'VE LEARNED. IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO VERIFY WHETHER SOMEONE WAS ACTUALLY EMPLOYED BY THE CIA. IF SOMEONE SAYS THEY WORK THERE, MEANS ONE OF 3 THINGS EITHER. THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN UNDERCOVER POSITION. THE AGENCY AGREED TO ROLL BACK THEIR COVER OR THEY'RE LYING. WE REACHED OUT TO THE CIA. WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK. REPORTING IN STU
