One Piece Chapter 1109 Discussion

all right everybody all right so I know I'm late this does not count to wordss the streak this does not count towards the streak all right this does not count towards the streak it doesn't because this is not a normally scheduled chapter right this is outside the usual schedule I had to get my Affairs in order mostly I was on Twitter I was so what happened is I was eating and um first let's get the stream likes up to 100 I was eating and uh I just took way longer than I oh two things so I was eating and then also I was like I should do laundry right now because um I want to do you guys care about this I want I was like I want to do the laundry so that like um I should do it now before stream and then that way it'll just be done by the time stream is over so it was a few things so I was that and I was eating I was like okay let me just take my time I don't want to rush rush to eat too fast because then I wouldn't feel good during the stream you know um so I took my time I was on Twitter at the same time I was handling a lot of things and I had to do the laundry let's get the stream like up to 200 this chapter is [ __ ] awesome let me tell you guys something else too um so right now I feel really good not in like a oh the chapter was really good sort of the way cuz the chapter was really good but um streaming right now in the middle of the day uh I feel like I have so much more energy right now I didn't realize this because I haven't streamed [ __ ] there's a [ __ ] car going off right now I haven't streamed in the middle of the day in so long it's very rare that we do we do this right but I realized like yeah streaming as the last thing in my day usually well Thursdays is complicated but like cuz I do other stuff after that too um but streaming later in the evening I think I usually have less energy than I would like I still still think the streams are great obviously but uh right now I feel like I don't know just very very I have coffee right here oh you guys are going to love this well actually you guys probably won't care but it's my stream so I'm going to tell you anyway this mug is a magical mug all right because what's the worst part about coffee anybody who knows what the worst part about coffee is the worst part about Co I look sleepy well that's probably CU like I don't know uh I got to sleep like I was rolling around in bed and stuff like that like I probably have bed head and everything but I feel rested that's more important I slept until like 11 something this morning yeah so anyway I feel very refreshed uh I have coffee the worst part about coffee is that it eventually gets cold this is a next mug the next mug never gets cold because if I turn this stuff on then like like it will remain heated for some period of time basically till the battery runs out so not never never is a strong word but yeah uh this is a this is basically going to make um this stream all the more enjoyable for me because in 30 minutes once this coffee starts getting like too cold it won't be cold for long because the next mug will heat it right back up anyway let's get back to the to the topic Lin SC thanks for being a pirate king tier member for five months man um for those of you who don't know pirate king tier members you get access to a 1 hour plus long podcast every month plus obviously the weekly podcasts that are shorter that I put out but the 1 hour plus long podcast where you submit your questions and I answer them very very in depth um for those of you who don't know the submission form is up right now I will so if you join pirate king tier you can submit things that you want me to talk about one piece related not one piece related lots of people like doing not one piece related stuff for those so um whatever you whatever floats your boats boat I guess um but yeah thanks for being a pirate king to your member the podcast will come out uh started next week so you're asking finally able to catch a stream for the first time since the Sunday stream days ah yeah this is probably good some people who normally can't tune in streams are probably going to be able to join in on this one at least something good came out of this late chapter too bad I'm going to have to go to bed right after I post this a [ __ ] are you overseas maybe you're overseas G says who the [ __ ] drinks a cup of coffee for 30 minutes yeah maybe that's a me thing and maybe that's why I really wanted the the next mug because um I like drinking coffee very slowly I don't know like I don't want it to run out I don't know um so because of that I think after a little bit I just got really frustrated with the fact that coffee slowly gets cold cuz like like ice coffee is cool but I have to choose to want to drink ice coffee um you know that's got to be my initial Choice it can't just be normal coffee that slowly gets lukewarm that's not the same thing so yeah this was very important for me um yeah my sister actually got me this as a birthday gift cuz uh I was kind of posting in the family group chat like yeah yeah really just making it very clear what I what I would really really like I didn't expect anyone would buy it cuz it was kind of kind of pricey but she was very very nice she bought the next bug and had it delivered did not expect that at all bort thank you for also being a pirate king member for seven months pirate king tier member for seven months sorry um yeah I hope you enjoy the podcast that's coming out hope you got your question in based on portrayal in recent chapters I think Saturn and Kazar is supposed to be close in strength but so far Saturn lacks Feats yeah I would agree I feel like um the two ways that you can look at it as kind of Saturn seems to like Saturn is the more he seems Limited in his offensive output let's say that right the most interesting thing that he can do is his eye attack from what we've seen and that did make Luffy it made Luffy cough of blood from what I can recall um so there's that but at the same time it doesn't seem quite as lethal or versatile in terms of what he can do as as kizaru flip side is he gets the Regeneration the durability probably a bit more physically physically capable in that sense so I I think that maybe not physically cap like I mean Kazar got his kicks and all that [ __ ] so um it's hard to say I I feel like they're supposed to be I would agree that they're supposed to be close in Tren anyway I'm most ex most excited to see more of gor as a crew yeah this is essentially going to be five Admiral levels six if you count kizaru six Admiral I don't know if Kazar is going to join back in the fight or if he's got his own situation that's going to be going on but yes Admiral level characters just on the island at the same time What Luffy is doing this chapter we're going to delve into it as we go but what Luffy is doing in this chapter is insane I there is nothing that any character has done in the story so far that is comparable to what Luffy did this chapter we're going to delve into it a little bit more I'm not saying Luffy is the strongest character in one piece history I'm just saying in terms of what has been sh like displayed Feats there's nothing any character has done that is even close to what Luffy is doing right now like put it this way big mom went High diff with kid and law for like 15 chapters or something like that ultimately she didn't lose to them it was the TNT but like big mom was like [ __ ] getting [ __ ] up by them for like a good run of chapters like a [ __ ] y like Luffy's a Yono big mom's a Yono it's like big mom she she was struggling against kid- in-law I don't think anybody thinks that kid and law are like maybe some people think law is like on the verge of Admiral level but if you said before this chapter like if I did a CommunityWide poll guarantee most people had kid- in-law below Admirals right I don't think anybody says like kid and law are stronger than kizaru at least before this chapter I think opinions might change before like after this chapter but that's just cuz like um like that's just cuz people might be hesitant to to say Luffy's all that like people might be trying to downplay Luffy to make that that claim if that makes sense but um point being kid- in-law clearly below Admiral level at least everybody had that opinion prior to this chapter right uh people might upscale them now just cuz whatever but um prior to this chapter I think everybody would logically have agreed that they're not Admiral level and big mom was struggling for many many many chapters right big mom and kaido shown to be about equal strength right big mom struggling against kidin law for many many chapters Luffy this chapter manhandled two characters that are clearly clearly stronger than kid- in-law low diff he had zero difficulty this chapter there's no difficulty that Luffy had whatsoever dealing with Saturn and kizaru two Admiral level characters seemingly at the same exact time the gap between what Luffy is doing right now and like let's say big mom at Oni gushima or something like that it's like heaven and earth it's like two totally different like what the [ __ ] would Luffy do to big mom right now what the [ __ ] would Luffy do to kaido if he's fighting like this like this is insane D vodka is thanks a lot Devon is pronounced Devon not Devon I don't think she's important enough for me to care about her pronunciation enough yeah dude the the tide turned really fast I think it's cool that we got to see Luffy Flex like that and then Oda like up the stakes really hard this was actually a [ __ ] Master Class of like I almost want to save it for a video but this is one of the things that Oda does best I might if I do it as a video it'll come out in two weeks but this is one of the things Oda does best which is just his ability to outside the woar his ability to keep upping the stakes and tension over the course of a of an arcs finale in just like having things keep going from bad to worse and bad to worse and just creating sort of Snowball Effect um Kino the says I'm coffee on coffee number five morge I wish I could get my caffeine tolerance back up it's gone down too low um I should just drink more coffee but I used to be able to have two three cups a day not think I'm down to one otherwise I'll stay up so this is my my one nerve V maker thanks for the five final Arc matchups Luffy low diffs the five gors Zoro extreme diffs Luchi OD Oda L diff Chin Chin B mid diffs boxes that's funny they sponsoring me no no I I swear they're not sponsoring me I just like the next mug um the Outback Panda thanks being Yono tier member for 12 months Sabo took on the come on man Sabo took on the gorus and emu while protecting Cobra Luffy's just catching up to his big bro okay you're joking I get it Luffy's just C catching up to his big bro flame Emperor yeah that's fair um blur says hybrid kaido would wash big mom based on what what the [ __ ] are you talking about kaido and big mom were essentially shown to be equals I think we can all intuitively understand that kaido's supposed to be the stronger of the two but like you they had a what two three-day fight going all out uh it's pretty much established that we're supposed to view them as equals um you can say kaido wasn't in hybrid form but big mom wasn't using her devil fruit from what we saw either she was just going straight sword to sword to Club so and if we're being honest big mom's devil fruit is significantly more versatile than kaido's devil fruit like kaido wasn't going hybrid form but big mom we know that she's got her own power PowerUp form where she eats her own souls and then she goes into like giant mode or whatever right so like what like like if you're trying to spin it as kaido supposed to be way stronger than big mom I just think that's impossible to argue based on the fact that they [ __ ] fought for like multiple days and nobody got the better of the other both of them were holding back some abilities yes but you could make the argument that big mom was holding back more abilities because she I view kaido more as a physical fighter like he should be better in straight Close Quarter combats than big mom big mom's still very good there but big mom has a much more versatile and Powerful devil fruit in my opinion than kaido or at least they're close in that regard obviously kaido is stronger than big mom like like I think that's obvious but they scale to roughly each other the Outback pandas no we covered this um hold on let me catch members let me make sure I'm not missing any members um sheriff laed with an outside the box question or at least outside the usual topic any thought thanks for being a yon C your member for 17 months man also thoughts on mihawk SPS I think it's interesting that Oda said that mihawk was betrayed by the Marines in some way hope you're well I am well I'm feeling really good right now um honestly it's making me think about streaming during the day in the future but I feel like that would throw off a lot of people's schedules so let's see let's see um maybe I'll do a poll sometime down the line but I don't want to throw off what people are used to um Also let's get the stream likes up to 200 so with mihawk for those of you who don't know SPS just recently released and one of the things that was stated was that mihawk um he was betrayed in some way by the Marines at some point in time which is why he hates the Marines and that seems to have been the setup for his Marine Hunter moniker so he was betrayed by the Marines I really don't [ __ ] know what that means because it's like if he's a pirate then you can't really be be betrayed by Marines because you're a [ __ ] pirate right like you're you're supposed to be hunted by the Marines like unless you're a shuchi buuk guy in which case you've got a deal or Alliance like you you've signed a contract shaken hands with them then you can be betrayed but if you're a pirate you can't be betrayed right so maybe this is before mihawk became a pirate but what would that mean was this what spurred him on the path of becoming a pirate maybe he wasn't a pirate maybe he was just a swordsman that was training growing up right and then at some point um just corrupt Marines or something like that did something maybe for his town whatever um and then that made him hate Marines and start hunting Marines which turned him into a pirate I don't know um it's very interesting I am I I'm not getting too excited about it just because I think there's a solid possibility that we don't ever actually delve into it in the real story because like it's it's just you know it's something that we've kind of gotten used to Oda will not include certain backstories like or they'll just be thrown into SS's like like let's say kid like kid was kid in the scope of one piece is a like he was kind of turning into a main character he was very prominent and took up a lot of screen time Etc especially in comparison to someone like mihawk um and ultimately it's kind of like yeah it's backstory who cares about it it's just thrown in an SPS so I don't know if I'm that excited about the mihawk stuff I think it's interesting I would love for Oda to elaborate and maybe we're set for a cool mihawk backstory maybe coming up on his duel with Zoro or something like that but I'm just going to keep my hopes low I would love a mihawk backstory um but I'm going to keep my hopes low for that because you know we've just we've been down this road a few times before Ponte thanks for being a yon tier member for 10 months yo Mor do you think the world government has a big goal they're working towards or do they just want to keep the same status quo that they had for 800 years I think that they would want to keep the same status quo I think the goal that they would be working towards would be the next great cleansing I think I think a big reset might be the next thing that they're heading towards um so that could be their big goal but it would be to get things back to a more manageable State because last we saw the gor talking not last but you know around the r first chapter 8 97 right we saw the gor talking and 97 9008 one of those two chapters 998 Maybe and whatever uh gors were talking and they were talking about how like the pirate world is starting to get out of hand like maybe it's about time to to wipe the board you know flip says hybrid kaido hii's big mom regular kaido extremes her no kaido could not extreme of big mom without a devil fruit because we already saw kaido like already what we got of kaido versus big mom right the fight that they were having that was already high diff and neither of them were using their devil fruit right so it's already established like like if big mom started using her devil fruit if she went giant form like she did against kid and law she started pulling out Prometheus um uh what's the new one's name what's the new Thunder Cloud's name I don't I forget Prometheus the misery stuff like all the things that she can do there's no reason to think that kaido would still beat her in just base form that's what is that based off of based off of whatever um Oscar Cruz thanks for being a pirate king to your member for 17 months no way all Elders go down this Arc right I can only imagine we have 10 or so chapters left of this Arc this is insane maybe this is just to get us like a glimpse of what the elders can do and I still think Saturn has defeated this Arc so maybe it's just a glimpse but it's really [ __ ] hard to say all powerful God animal thanks BR a yon CER member for 11 months although if I do entertain the thought like maybe all five Elders losing I don't know I don't think all five Elders would lose here I think that would be a little disappointing almost cuz I prefer when Oda kind of Hypes Up characters in earlier arcs and then we get to see them have their big battles and later arcs so it would kind of be like you know this is the first Arc in the first place that we're even finding out the gor were strong gor were not on most people's top 30 lists prior to Egghead Island we didn't know that they were strong we thought they could be but we didn't know right so it would be kind of disappointing to me if like in the same Arc that it's being revealed like oh these guys are really a big deal and they're potentially endgame threats then they're all being defeated in that same Arc I don't know about that uh all powerful um God NL thanks bring a yonko to your member for 11 months hey morge no question this this time just hope you've been good thank you man I have been good yeah it's been a good week overall Hera Hera yes just JY says yeah but I think kaido's hybrid is stronger than whatever big mom can do with her devil fruit yeah no I I I think that kaido going all out is stronger than big bom for sure like I have kaido above big what I was responding to is like Bas kaido versus big mom going all out like Bas kaido can't beat big mom going all out that makes no sense because like he had several days to do it against Bas big mom who was also not shown using her devil fruit like no devil fruit kaido no devil fruit big mom it was shown that they're basically equal and went back and forth for like several days before Calling it Quits right so you know um to then say that like Bas kaido could have beaten big mom if she's going all out with everything it's like but he wasn't even shown to be capable of beating Bas big mom in his Bas form you know all right let me catch up on supers um one sec one sec all right I'm gonna have to pull up the the other page um uh hold on Rodrigo leaga thanks welcome to the uh to the Supernova thank you for joining sorry if I missed that earlier uh let me pull up supers but yeah like I think no matter how you spin it this this chapter is the best like is there any feat that any character has done in the story that's comparable to Luffy to like Luffy handling two Admirals at the same time because like really think about that most people would have told you that like I just remember like most people before this were saying like like I I can't imagine people saying that kaido could could low diff two Admirals at the same time I've never heard anybody argue that I don't know anybody that I've seen argue that Shanks could low diff two Admirals at the same time What Luffy did this chapter like without without debate is essentially handling two Admiral level characters at the same time with minimum difficulty right there's no way to to argue that to the point that they had to call in four more Admiral level character to help deal with it right there's no way to downplay that Yousef says Shanks one-shotting kid I would say one-shotting kid in and killer at the same time it's interesting yes because it's the it is the it's the most easily that we've ever seen a character take out other characters that are supposed to be like kid is supposed to be probably close to Admiral strength or something like that like it's the it's the easiest that we've ever seen one top tier dispose of another character that's supposed to be close to the top or something right but this is Luffy doing it to two characters granted he didn't not knock them out like Shanks did but um I still think that like like both Saturn and Kazu are clearly stronger than kid um I think both of them would take I think kazari would take kid and killer at the same time I don't know I agree that like Luffy hasn't put them down permanently he hasn't put them down so maybe we're getting a little ahead but like it's it's um yeah he hasn't put either of them down but I'm saying all I said is that one character with minimum difficulty handling two Admiral level characters like no matter how you spin it Luffy clearly looked better than like he clearly was in control of the fight this chapter he clearly handled like he liter like I'm not there's no exaggeration that I'm saying it all here it's literally Luffy spitting kizaru and Saturn around like [ __ ] Pancakes on the in the tips of his fingers toying with them right there's no other description for what he did to them this chapter than toying with them we've never seen one character toy with two Admiral level characters at the same time to the point that they need to call in four other Admiral level characters right this is INS this is unheard of this is not like this is beyond Whitebeard at Marine Ford this is beyond Shanks one-shotting kid and killer I'm not saying Luffy is above like like I'm not saying he's like I'm just saying in terms of Feats right like just in terms of what was done um Shanks hasn't done anything that's equal to this Shanks maybe could maybe Shanks could handle them just as easily as Luffy I don't know but I'm just saying like in terms of established Feats you know this is the this is pretty much the highest it gets I could see Shanks one-shotting kid maybe as like the closest kokami says didn't realize Mor was a big mom fan I'm not necessarily I'm not really a big mom fan it's it's just that I think people really make up a lot of [ __ ] for kaido um to exaggerate how strong he is when it's like no we know how strong he is which is basically a little bit stronger than big mom because that was established very very very firmly like there's no reason for Oda to write a fight that's happening between the two characters that takes place over several days and ends in a draw unless it's to [ __ ] establish that yeah these two are roughly the same right would kaido probably win in the end yeah yeah um I still have kaido above big mom but it's like I see tier list where it's like kaido and then like eight spots down it's like big Mom it's like what the [ __ ] are you reading like where you get like people just make up a lot of stuff about kaido again like the island carrying stuff and stuff like that I've seen people say stuff like yeah kaido like 1v5 fed all supernovas on the rooftop it came out like okay it's like dude he had another Yar code that's exactly like almost exactly as strong as he is on the same rooftop it was a two like it's just weird big mom eraser just to gas up kaido that see it's like no however strong big mom is that's roughly as strong as kaido is that's basically what we know um that's just that's what the I I it's the weirdest thing I think it's cuz people hate big mom so much and then they they Gass up kaido so much that they just like don't like comparing kado to big mom when the story makes it very clear that it's just like no they're basically the same it's it's maybe the Gap is probably something like a Kyo aiji something like that yeah see like kaido is Yousef says kaido is way stronger than Bing Mom it's about what's shown yeah what's shown is that they're [ __ ] equals almost they're like they fought for 3 days they're [ __ ] what the what the [ __ ] does that's so [ __ ] bizarre I don't even know what to say it's just like what do you what's even the response to that CU it's just like it means that like nothing that happens there's nothing that Oda could do in the story like he can literally have big mom fight kaido to a draw and then people will still be like well no kaido's just way stronger it's like but we already saw that that's not the case I don't get it I don't get it Francisco Moss thanks for being a pirate king toer member for 17 months I think Luffy will get defeated by the five elders but he'll manage to hold them off enough so Vega Punk's video gets released in the world so not really a defeat but they need to Hype the gors I do like the 10-minute time limit right I do like the 10-minute time limit um it's like I've always like when one piece arcs end with the time limit of sorts Also let's get the stream likes up to 300 real quick I like when one piece arcs end with time limits it does seem hard to imagine all gor being defeated here but then on the flip side it's like okay well if Luffy gets defeated here I even saw some people on Twitter talking about like well maybe it leads to an arc where the straw hats like um you know uh like all have to go save Luffy and I'm like but then what about elbaff and like how does that affect the rest of the story so I don't want it's two things I don't want Luffy to be defeated and captured here I mean it would be [ __ ] cool I don't [ __ ] know I think that's what's really cool I've been saying this Arc is really unpredictable for some time now and this is just the prime example of that I mean just a little bit ago I was thinking we're we're close to wrapping up Thomas Davis thanks for being a yonko toer member for 10 months I think this is also the biggest Gap we've ever seen between Luffy and Zoro it's a magnitude of difference between them at this point yeah I mean for some period of time like like like look I just call it like I see it like there was a period of time that I I mean I guess everybody likes to say that but um there was a period of time towards the beginning fad where I would have said like yeah if zor's an asra maybe he's kind of close to Luffy because we saw zor and asra versus kaido like that was just for one moment when Zoro had like every bone in his like this was Zoro at 1% Health used ashar only for one attack against kaido permanently scarred him forever this was before Zoro even mastered Advanced conquer hockey so I was kind of the opinion of like yeah maybe in ashra mode zoro's like comparable to Luffy or something like that I don't know that's what I thought towards the beginning now it's just like this is I don't even know what you call it cuz it's like a gap seems almost like insulting to Luffy like there's just no until Zoro shows something new there's just nothing to even like you could have like six Zoros based on what we see like I don't even know like like Luffy just did this to he's he low diff handled two Admirals at the same time right Zoro has been in the as far as we know in the span of time that it took for like not just this fight but like Luffy to eat recover fight kizaru the first time like this entire time zor's been fighting Luchi he's been fighting [ __ ] Luchi like I don't even know what to say I don't even know what to say man um I'm I'm I'll stop but it's just like I can't like look I I've made the case for Zoro in many many times before like you guys have watched my streams long enough like I've made the case as many times as I can like um Zoro versus law I've made that argument many a time I've hyped up Zoro and the kaido instance which I know a lot of people try and downplay but um unless Zoro breaks at something thing like I don't even like there's okay like a couple chapters ago I used to be saying like unless I was like unless Zoro just suddenly like busts out like Advanced conquers hockey zero diffs Luchi then moves on busts out ashra can take on kizaru or something like that then we can start having Luffy conversations again but right now it just feels almost like if I'm being honest it feels as much as I would like to to to talk of Zoro here it feels almost disrespectful to even discuss Luffy and Zoro in the same name let's see what happens let let's see what happens but I'm just not going to talk about it till we get something on that end because it's just absurd right now you know um there's just nothing to to talk up you know like maybe maybe let's see let's see if he can pull out some some new new stuff or maybe if he can do something with ashra maybe he comes in and helps I would love to see him and Sanji be able to come help Luffy here um but until that happens it just feels disrespectful to to whatever the [ __ ] Luffy is doing right now Joseph eBay says how do I get my comment read you just did all right let me go through the supers I'm sorry guys it's just a lot of stuff at the moment all right let me go through the supers let's go let's go um all right all right all right um we covered Devon storm fox nerve Envy maker bunf gum thank you drum guess who's at the labo stratum waron NOA it would be dopee to see zor Zoro against some Goro I still kind of am biased towards wanting to see Zoro and Sanji do stuff against against kizaru just because I've had more anticipation for that you know what I mean like let me put it this way I personally assume or I believe that the gor are set for later down the line right like later threats in the story so I almost don't want to see the straw hats handling them right now and like getting good Feats against them right now I want to feel like I would like to see Venus Juro Topman these type of characters I want see them Flex first and then be fought later on right kizaru I would be happy to see zor and Sanji fight right now because Kazar is a very established character we we have a good idea of how strong he is he's had so many Feats throughout the story now would be cool for us to see Zoro and Sanji having grown so much be able to take on kizaru I would love to see that with the gor say we understand they're supposed to be strong but right now they're kind of like Luffy's not having difficulty with Saturn right I understand that it's just because Luffy's that strong not because Saturn's weak Saturn seems to be portrayed around kizaru's strength but you kind of get what I'm saying like I would love to see the gor feel like threats um so I don't want to see the gors show up and just like [ __ ] up zor and Sanji because that's just making them look even worse on the flip side I don't really need to see Zoro and Sanji like getting one up on the goras either just yet because I kind of want to let them like let them get some hype and build up how strong they are first does that make sense unless of course all the gorus supposed to be defeated this Arc it would be exciting in a way but I guess disappointing in some ways um it would be it would be complicated I I I don't know how it'd feel until we see that really play out Joseph eBay thanks for being a Yono tier member for one month hey Mor love the content thanks for reading my message yes I just caught it at a good time man um what devil fruit would you personally want to have in real life um uh I think I've T I think kumas fruit I think kumas fruit is like a perfect allinone type fruit it um I mean the NAA fruit I I think NAA fruit's too too wild just a bit too wild I'm like do I need to be doing all that crazy [ __ ] nah but the kuma kumas fruit is so nice um you can heal you can heal other people um you can teleport you can defend yourself well I suppose if bad shit's going to happen to you maybe the Phoenix fruit though cuz I love the ability of flight flight would be so much fun in vulnerability regeneration I think I'd still go with the Phoenix Food actually I don't know uh yeah let me do a quick pull gor versus Admiral or let's just say Saturn versus kizaru um how do people still feel here because we've gotten back and forth I think last chapter people were still on Saturn greater than kizaru I am inclined to say this chapter implies the same um we still haven't seen Kazar Awakening I think it's supposed to be close I'm calling them both Admiral level essentially for the time time being John 678 thanks for the five all five gor are here no way Luffy's taking them all on Saturn's not dying this Arc we take that W for the world government agenda Kuma's death is in vain Kuma's death will not be in vain so long as Luffy NAA who he saved one day frees the world and as long as this message of Vega punk goes out to the world and causes a change like all of the events that Kuma participated in the events Ved Island will still be a victory right it doesn't matter if Luffy and the straw hats don't defeat the goras here right we've already kind of gotten the wind condition right the win condition for this Arc is not defeating all of the the gor and the Marines the win condition is if Vega Punk's message is able to be broadcasted to the world that is the win condition for the straw hats if the straws succeed in defending the labo stratum for 10 minutes and that message goes out to the world it is a giant [ __ ] L for the world government and the strads get away scottf free obviously if that that's the case then it's a double win right Vega Punk's death doesn't make this Arc and L Kuma's death doesn't make this Arc an L if the straw hats manage to pull off this 10-minute timer situation then they've basically dealt the world government the biggest blow that it's ever had in like 800 years right um and they're on their way to freeing the world in that case right I think that that's awesome I really like the the situation the setup that Oda established here because it's just like it allows for a way that the straw Hat's ultimately escaping still feels like a win because they got the they got the last laugh you know what I mean Saturn kizaru seems pretty close yeah I imagine most people view them as roughly around the same same level um Also let's get the stream likes up to 300 real quick because we got like over a thousand people in here um King G thanks to the five this is be this being the first Arc of the final Saga and it's this good proves Oda will be delivering a generational Master Class better than rfor soon dude this Arc is [ __ ] like it is it is continually raising the bar this Arc is so great I mean the final panel of this chapter was one of the coolest final panels to a chapter that I've ever seen and it's you know what it's it's um it almost feels like something out of a different manga I don't know cuz like one piece isn't like like I don't know uh that's kind of a random thing to say but um like just the visual of like these like massive summoning like these characters being summoned with all these theatrics and stuff like that I don't usually associate like that sort of stuff with one piece those sort of visuals with one piece you know um but it was just so cool seeing like these massive like like flames and all of that stuff um and these huge pillars of flames or like lightning or whatever like erupting all over the island as like these super powerful characters are showing up I don't know um maybe it's not the right way to phrase it but um it just feels surreal seeing that happen here you know gave me B Keo the fares gave me berserk Vibes with the final panel to be honest yeah I don't know how to quite explain it it's just it feels like a yeah like a berserk sort of like uh monsters being summoned type of imagery I don't know um Breezy 2x thanks for the two do you think the strs run or fight here I think the 10minute time limit means that the strats have to fight for to preserve Vega Punk's Legacy I think they have to fight for the next um 10 minutes or so and that's what makes it exciting because they don't have to beat all the characters here but it's going to be a uh Battle Royale it feels like for the moment Julian chrisell thanks for the five what are your 90% 50% 10% predictions for the end and vead please give us something spicy for the 10% I've never had a question phrase like that before that's nice um 90% is um let's see that's a cool question um 90 % is actually the hardest one to say for some reason let's say 90% I'm 90% sure that Bonnie is getting off the island with the straw hats and will likely be accepted into the crew as a cabin girl or something like that down the line it just feels like like the the fap Pug's literally pushing her onto the ship right um leaving them in her care right 50% Kuma's death it's a scary one but I feel I feel like to me it just has to happen I feel like so much is lost for me for the story line of Kuma doesn't die even if Kuma doesn't feel that prominent at the moment I'm not going to forget like when I'm rereading that's going to be the emotional centerpiece of the Ark for me Kuma's really got to go that dude's got to die all right but I'm 50/50 on whether oda's going to pull it off one thing that's very encouraging is the fact that VAP Punk seems to have died but Oda didn't go all in on some sort of like really sad Montage for it because if he went all in on some sort of sad sort of chapter dedicated to Vega Punk's death or something like that like some emotional heartstrings thing then I'd be like oh [ __ ] he's using this as like the big emotional sad climax of The Ark rather than Kuma's death but Oda is going light on it Vega Punk's death it's kind of being moved along through just to get to the main piece which is um the you know the the the Spiel that he's about to give and I was so [ __ ] stupidly wrong last chapter when I was just like I don't think Vega Punk died uh I don't think Vega Punk died and yeah you guys were right didn't fully realize I did speedread that Vega Punk um uh like I I I thought that he was still alive at the end of the chapter and I thought he was like doing something manual to to release this information to the world but you know he is dead so again that gives me high hopes that Kuma will die because it's not being milked for for for drama or emotions it's just he died right which suggests to me that there's potential for like OD to actually going in on a more dramatic death down the line and 10% my 10% prediction is uh kizaru having a turnaround by the end of the Ark in some way kizaru turning having a turnaround and doing something um you know by the end of this uh like against the Marines or against the gor or something like that Rodrigo Aliaga thanks for the five don't worry about being late we know you were making the script for kaido and big mom coming back Theory after that cover story copium time I did not that did not even cross my mind for that I do wonder why Oni gushima is being like still focused on we know that Oni gushima is important in some way based on what Marco said um that it used to be called something else but just the fact that it's sinking to the like how did that happen cuz it doesn't really make sense to me right like um how is zi gushima there like cuz I can understand if just through sheer weight it it slowly falls through wano's surface right just if that happens just through sheer weight so then it could get I I got to look at the layout of juano again but it could come beneath the earth's crust but then like weren't we shown that like kaido and big mom were just sent straight into the lava and stuff so why isn't Oni gushima I got to look at wano's layout again let let me look at that again just real quick wano layout um uh yeah wano's interior yeah I don't really get it exactly cuz from what we're it doesn't make sense if you look at wano's layout like the the structure of it then onigashima sinking should just like there shouldn't be water there actually it should actually end up in um in the crust like uh like in the lava I don't think that makes sense I don't think that makes sense if you look at it final page felt like attack on Titan yeah that's what I mean like it ites it feels like it feels reminiscent of imagery that I've seen in other places but not quite in one piece I don't know why the final panel remix King thanks always good to see you thanks for being a Yono tier member for 13 months with the other gors being around for the assumed defeat of Saturn and their ability to communicate with him telepathically who is Blackbeard going to fool dude I don't [ __ ] know what like okay so maybe it's not going to be a um so they might not see Saturn's defeat like themselves right so if Saturn could go offline or something like that in a sense uh he could go offline like oh [ __ ] Saturn's out unconscious right and then the Blackbeard Pirates could present Saturn as basically being like a hostage or something right um he could be like they could show him to the gor say knocked out or something like that that's the best shot at it being relevant but I don't really understand it being relevant otherwise you know what no the other way that it would be relevant would most likely be in um just commanding the seraphim or something like that I think that that could work um that's something that other people have brought up before Joseph ask with a great point I assume Moma moved it yeah that is a great point I love that I love that rag grid says Oda made an error I think it would be too big of an error I think that'd be too big of an error so I definitely agree that could be Momo that could be Momo great great great Point great catch because I was just thinking like who the [ __ ] Oni kushima could physic like who the [ __ ] wano could physically move that like I don't like yeah I I don't think there was anybody in wano that'd be able to do it but I forgot about about MOS um penp pal 1058 thanks for being a yonko to your member for 15 months haha don't need to watch the vaud if you're live while I'm at work this is sweet yeah I'm I'm happy that a lot of people are going to be able to tune in right now just because it's daytime um Saturn talking with gor say similar to how Vega Punk talking satellites don't even say anything there's a video coming out uh next uh Tuesday I won't elaborate any further um evil friend thanks for the two uh so hyped for the new cover story yeah there is unfinished business in wano with pluton and everything there so I'm happy that we're going back to wano I was wondering if it would be during like like actual chapters going back to wano but cover story makes so much sense Gooma booma thanks for the five for a while I disliked the return of the Giants as I felt like it made the Buster call more for Cakewalk than it already was I love this chapter holy [ __ ] yeah to me it's just like all right Dar and Bry you guys got to get the [ __ ] out of there I don't know if you guys could deal with this type of [ __ ] like it's almost a necessity at this point it's like okay we need those [ __ ] D let's take we'll get all the help we could [ __ ] get right like this is insane jwp thanks for the 10 this chapter was insane oh yeah we've been guessing that Saturn might be the weakest gors feels like the tables were just turned Luffy can hang But like everyone else zoro's still fighting Luchi right now bro dude I feel like okay call me crazy but I feel like this could be Oda just setting up for like a dramatic sort of reemergence of the the help from the straw hats I don't know just because they've been [ __ ] useless like forget even zor the rest of them have been [ __ ] useless for a bit like they've done nothing I think it this is a great opportunity if like if Luffy's finally got his back against the wall and um you know the rest of the crew like maybe Zoro comes in after having just wrapped with Luchi um Sanji makes his return um he's still obviously around there I mean zor is supposed to be already in the area that that the gor are headed toward so that could be cool um yeah uh and just if the other strads could contribute in some way too that' be good even if it's just helping clear the Marines I don't know abara Med thank you for catching this missed a member message from eons Eton thank you finally a stream I can catch live really love yeah dude so many people are able to catch this one live um again I might do a poll or something just to see if people might be interested in streams being during the day but I don't want to [ __ ] it up too much for too many people really love the Hindu mythology talk last time interested in more thanks for all the vods yeah no thank you for watching uh thank you for um for your support um hind mythology talk we'll do it whenever it's relevant I don't want to just keep uh forcing it in because you know that's stuff that I like but not necessarily uh everybody flip say all all stats versus all gor could be cool could be really cool plus kizaru let's not forget kizaru um Rayo CH thanks for the five hey I watched Monday's stream VOD and I wanted to say that my favorite shown in moment is when kuaba was willing to sacrifice himself to toguro for yusk I'm not going to lie man I don't even [ __ ] remember that and I remember like most of youu Haka show but like uh don't remember that uh you know what I've always one thing I've always said is that um YuYu Haka show and um Hunter Hunter it's a copy paste of the main cast the the author only knows how to write one type of main like or he likes his his main cast setup I would say yusan gone are the most different right but if you take away yusuke and gon um if you take away yusuke and Gan then you've got a lot of like hii and um kiluwa are [ __ ] identical like Kila is basically like a younger version of that same personality type right very very similar personality types Kurama and Kurapika come come come on man Kurama and Kurapika just this F same [ __ ] character and then kuaba um and Leorio it's just like the the the tall dummy um yeah just the tall dummy comical relief type character but who has a lot of heart of the group right like it it's the same ideas for the cast across the board um gone and yusuke are the most different but that's largely I feel because uh like Hunter hunt like gone like they're similar in their sort of Simplicity in terms of how they think and like their um you know how they think how they fight that sort of thing but yusuke is obviously more mature character gon's very uh like gon's more of a black box in terms of what's going on in there and I think that that serves a lot of Hunter Hunter a lot better but it is interesting it's just it's a remarkably similar maincast Miss super from cigar ver I'm going through them one at a time so I uh no I haven't missed from cigar I just haven't gotten to it yet um poit thanks for the five morchon will cover story be about Jack maybe that' be funny I don't think so but it would be interesting if it is also how will Devon having Saturn's face work now that the gors are here so I've pivoted I think just to the possibility that um because the telepathy thing is like a big big problem right um Saturn could still be defeated outside the the view of the rest of the gor say but it's going to be very hard to impersonate Saturn um if telepathy is important right that's going to be really really difficult although the gor say when they're with each other generally they don't communicate through telepathy they communicate through verbal dialogue right so it wouldn't necessarily be a huge tell so Kina and Devon could still sneak in there now that I'm thinking about it right because this seems like a one-off thing of like well we're thousands of miles apart so we're going to communicate through our minds but generally it seems like they actually talk to each other so it's still seems doable um but there's three possibilities right so one if Saturn is defeated defeated outside the view of the rest of the goray then yeah can and Devon could still sneak her way into the gor right um two k and Devon like if s is defeated outside of the view of the gors then Kine and Devon could um what do you call uh impers like impersonate Saturn just to be a hostage or something like that being held by the Blackbeard Pirates right and then finally three uh would just be Kine Devon using Saturn's appearance to order around the seraphim so it's still got to be relevant in some way we can assume but um now there's three options I would say uh Sheriff lafy thanks for the 10 do you think VAP Punk's message could prompt Karo to change sdey the world government either to change sides after hearing the message or disobeying orders so that the message could be heard I definitely think that there's a possibility that this could be what changes uh kizaru's um uh motive or swings him over to a certain side because like kizaru went all the way he killed Vega Punk he like actually killed Vega Punk at the end of the day he went all the way right he's got to be feeling some type of way right now and to hear the final words from his old friend right a like postmortem to hear those final words and kind of whatever the weight of those words will be and like the revelations that he has during that and the realizations of what he's done to someone that was like trying to do the best for the world I think that those could be the triggers to make kizaru act in a way that is in defiance of his normal usual dutiful self and I think that would be beautiful because I think that's more powerful that like I think the fact that kizaru ultimately went all the way in killing his friend and only after that is potenti po potentially going to have a a character turn or or a change in um in sides right like and have his little Arc I think that's a lot more powerful and meaningful than if kizaru at the last second was like I can't kill Vega punk I'm going to fight against the world government or something like that because that's more of the that's more expected right like that's the that's the kind of BU the book thing and you know it's still meaningful obviously but it's just like we've seen that a million times before like I can't bring myself to kill you you're my friend like let me fight again blah blah blah right but no he did it and he has to live with that now and it's going to be so much harder for him to live with when he's listening to the last words of his friend that he killed right everything that Vega Punk's going to be ifications of karo's actions uh what really was lost here what Vega Punk was working towards all of that is going to just like weigh heavily on kizaru as that message is playing I think that's a very exciting potential for potentially exciting scene for some character development for kizaru and it could go far enough that it makes him change his ways in some some some way you know let's get the stream likes up to 400 real quick is the audio off audio okay audio okay right now [ __ ] think it's working it should be working okay sorry about that but yeah you guys get what I'm saying right I I really really like that idea I think that's a much more powerful character turn um yeah I think we could get some really juicy stuff out of Vega Punk if Oda chooses to go down that route oh actually hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on no do I save this for [ __ ] oh I've got such a juicy idea I've got such a juicy idea all right okay let me let me write this down do I share this with you guys uh okay hold on um okay hold on I I I'll try and uh I'll try and keep this short hold on um it'll be the video maybe this will be the video after um um uh no I don't I don't know if it's worth talk okay I'll I'll mull it over as we um as we I'll figure it out I'll figure it out uh whether I want to talk about it on stream or not I don't know if it's good enough to be a a video idea um but anyway um cigar ver thanks for the five um oh no no missed this uh beho thank you post Egghead we might just know the names and designs of all the Celestial Dragon Fighters emu gors Knights and some of their powers insane yeah I don't know if like okay post egad yeah I don't know if we're going to get God Knight stuff just yet but we're going to get to see the forms of the other gor say next chapter that is [ __ ] insane right for those of you who don't know I did the uh the stream like the last stream I did was on the um we discussed the the potential forms of the the gor like their actual yoai abilities right um check that stream out cuz I think we actually nailed probably a good like I I think that it was a collaborative effort you guys fed most of the ideas but I think at the end of the day like we got a really good list of possibilities I think that stream is super relevant right now go check that out and we'll see how right it is two two weeks down the line um Matthew Armstrong first time catching live due to time zones instead of hearing about how late you were in the vaud I got to experience the weight firsthand yeah I'm happy people got to experience that too that's funny um reflexi thanks for being a member for 12 months why is no one talking about how crazy all five Elders is it is is [ __ ] crazy it's insane like this is one of the most insane like I don't even know how to put this into words I don't think we've ever had just six Admiral level characters show up on one side of a battle like to fight other characters like Marine Ford yeah sorry we had Marine Ford where you know you got the three Admirals you got garps and Goku mihawk you got you got stuff like that right but this is all like this is sudden this is all out of the blue marine Ford that was slow gathering this is insane like this is just everybody showing up at once I think one of the small reasons that it's not as impactful like I think it would feel more impactful if for example suddenly Akainu aiji uh fujitora greenb all were suddenly appeared at this island at once to fight the straw hats that would feel more impactful because um we've just we've seen those characters for longer we've seen the gors for long long time but we've only just found out that they're strong right whereas the Admirals kizaru fujitora AKO aiji right like the established Admirals they've been around for so long and have been such threatening forces in the story for so long and done so much and have so many Feats um there's it's just the name Admiral carries a certain connotation to it just through the longevity and how long it's it's been in the story for us right um gor it's it's a new idea for us it's new to us that these gor are really strong it's we're still kind of getting a gauge of how strong they're supposed to be like some would argue equal to kizaru some would argue above kizaru some would probably still argue maybe even below kizaru but like around that ballpark but we're just kind of realizing that it doesn't help that Saturn hasn't done anything that impressive just yet aside from regeneration um so it's still really exciting that all five gor are here plus kizaru who's already here that's still really exciting um it's just not um I think part of the reason people aren't going as apeshit over it as as you would um maybe expect if it was like five Admirals that were here on the island um even though it should be roughly the same thing um is just because again the gor are newer to us and we we have less understanding of what we what they can do so we're going to get we're going to find out in the next chapters I'm sure people like the hype train will just keep building and building as we get their their ability reveals and all that also let's get the stream likes up to 400 real quick Mark Z down thanks for being a yon CER member for 17 months man hope all is well Mor yeah no I'm feeling really good I was saying that from the start of the stream the setup here has so much going on it is it is insane the gors hype along with Vega Punk's announcement next chapter is crazy potential the climax of this Arc which was already very exciting but the climax of this Arc the rest of this Arc like I was beginning to think and a lot of people had this down it was like okay it's gonna be Luffy versus kizaru then maybe zor Sanji vers sorry Luffy versus Saturn then maybe Zoran Sanji versus kizaru maybe the other strads get some licks in against the vice Admirals or something that'll be a really really cool ending to The Arc right that's what our view was one two chapters back this is so [ __ ] like so much more like it literally took the threat that we had before and multiplied it by three right like like that's essentially what happened before it was like Saturn and kizaru okay those two guys are a problem this is a problem I wonder if the monster Trio can handle this right it just took the problem we had and like tripled it it is so cool like I've never seen something that drastic I think happen at the end of a one piece Arc just like that like in an arc where the strs are supposed to win you know like sabot they're supposed to lose so sabot was like oh my God the pacifistas okay not just the pacifistas but pacifistas plus camaru plus kizaru like plus the real Kuma like that was like a snowball of events where it just got out of hand they couldn't handle it this is different cuz they need to hold out for those 10 minutes for Vega Punk's message to go to play so this is an arc where they're set to actually succeed in some way not necessarily beat everybody but uh it's very different in that Oda just tripled the stakes out of the blue and yet the strats are still supposed to make it out um with the W in a sense right maybe maybe Luffy gets captured maybe some [ __ ] happens but at least they're supposed to be able to like get the victory over the world government in the sense that they're supposed to be able to last these 10 minutes and um allow Vega Punk's message to be revealed to the world so yeah amazing chapter uh rest of like the this is potentially be one of the most exciting one piece climaxes like in history um yeah cigar ver thank you for the five Egghead has made me love one piece like I used to during weekly Marine Ford and rooftop only qualum is useless strs these chapters are straight 10 out of 10 and tension skyrocketed yeah like Oda did a great job with like yeah allowing Luffy to flex showing just how strong he is I I think that's the best of both worlds right you get that triumphant feeling of like Luffy arriving saving the day showing Bonnie the power of NAA just handing it to Saturn and kizaru and punishing them for what they've been doing like what kizaru just did to beap punk all that stuff um and just like flexing Luffy's power and abilities and it's just like like really really cardic to see all that and then still being able to turn the tension back up by it's like okay Luffy's really strong but I'm going make it so that even he is going to have a lot of difficulty with what's coming next like like this is just straight up overwhelming so amazing stuff yeah like this is just this is stupid exciting weekly Marine forward and rooftop yeah I'd say rooftop piece was like the last time it felt this exciting for me personally um Ox Ward thanks to the two how many Back stories do you think are left it depends what you call a backstory because it's like you could say sent tamaru and kizaru got a back like saru got a backstory right but it was just like a few like a quick montage so if you're talking about like fullon backstories um I think Blackbeard ainu for sure no no not not not for sure Blackbeard Dragon for sure I think Shanks mihawk ainu have a good shot I'd say K's got a better shot than mihawk I think that might be the ones that I'm most certain of and then the joy boy like void Sentry flashback I think those are the ones that I'd be most certain of mlon thanks a lot he's finally streaming when Europeans can watch is this like the ideal time I don't know cuz like I guess I mean like normally I stream in the evenings EST Eastern Eastern time which I understand is good for most Americans to be able to catch the stream but bad for Europeans whereas midday EST it's probably like some Americans can watch but then and also a lot of Europeans can watch I I don't know I don't know man I don't know um English 1 D1 thanks for the five I feel like the Giants Mech giant sluma stay behind to stall the gor to give a view of their power and straw its Escape leading to a bigger future site future fight um I forgot I keep forgetting about the [ __ ] Mech giant yeah the mech giant I was wondering where it's going to come in it would come in it would come in clutch here it would really come in clutch here let's see how strong the [ __ ] Mech giant is again I the gor say they're all going to be new they're flexing their abilities so I feel like it's very important that they don't just get it's going to be a thin line like a fine line because they can't look bad especially if they're going to be the endgame opponents they can't look bad like so you can't have the straw hats or the The Iron Giant do too well against them like just [ __ ] them up because that kills a lot of the hype for the future right but at the same time it needs to feel like a a threat right but at the same time it's like but the straw still ultimately need to succeed in Holding Out for 10 minutes so I really wonder how it is going to balance this following fight you know um I think the the ancient Mech is going to be important of course Steven Guy thanks for the two have you seen the new SPS yon Cooks is fire y oh yeah the I forgot there's there's some of the the best cooks in this see um I didn't I skimmed that part of it but yeah that that is that is interesting um let me check that out again let me check that out um for those of you who don't know the uh the SPs revealed that there's like a top I forget it revealed like a chef that's like one of the top tier chefs um in the one piece world or something like that let's see cook Marine headquarters has an elite group of chefs known as the yawn Cooks among them is winter Cuisine kov who was selected as the chef for Saturn and kazari during their escort to Egghead I really hope we get to see Sanji go up against them in some in some fashion at some point ston green thanks for being a Yono tier member for two months Zoro reacted when Saturn came do you think he realizes Luffy is definitely going to need help and beats Luchi quickly and jinbe takes him there um I mean so the argument that people had is that Zoro is already in the area that needs to be protected so it's almost as though they might come to him at the end of the day so we could be good um I don't know um I I would really love like if we get to the end of this Arc and sanji's only contribution was blocking one kizaru laser and zoro's contribution is defeating Luchi and Luffy's having to take on six Admiral level opponents at the same time and hold them off for 10 minutes I would personally feel just somewhat disappointed um I would personally just feel somewhat disappointed you know um so I hope that Zoro and Sanji at the very least are able to contribute in some way and I hope the rest of the strats are able to contribute in some way king of lightning reacting to Luffy's feet LML oh I'd love to watch that honestly king of lightning has amazing reactions they're fantastic to watch it's actually really frustrating frustrating to watch at the same time cuz I tuned in at some points and the dude knows how to drag [ __ ] out like drag out each panel each moment so I'm like in for like a 5 10 minute reaction and I'm sitting there like an hour in I'm like he hasn't even gotten to the good parts so I don't usually watch King of Lightning's reactions and mostly I don't really watch other one piece YouTubers in general but sometimes if there's a crazy hype chapter then the only person that I'll really go to to watch a reaction of is king of lightning and then I end up feeling like blue balled for like like 30 minutes in and then usually I'll turn it off for like tune back it or something cuz I'm just like [ __ ] man just get to the get to the good stuff but he knows how he knows what he's doing um William Marshall thanks for the five only feat that's comparable is Zoro holding off kaido and big mom's come by and attack in wano but that was pretty brief that's just it's like a totally different category man that's just I mean like yeah he held it off for like a like it's just a totally different category like this is this is more of an extended like like they're fighting like this is like that was a moment that's a really really cool moment um that's are maybe the strongest attack in one piece that Zoro was able like you got arguments I don't know um uh it's one of at the very least the strongest attacks in one piece history and Zoro was able to hold it off for like a moment but um I think that's very different from like Luffy just genuinely showing showing clear and easy dominance over the course of like a chapter and a half against um two Admiral level opponents you know like that's that's an extended stint like they're actually fighting and like they're trying to fight back against Luffy and they can't do [ __ ] um you know Tony 69 thanks for the thanks for the 12 EUR uh European finally catching a stream damn this is so crazy I'm seeing so many so many Europeans this makes so much sense now um this is where you all you guys were at huge fan since raid failing God damn it maybe we don't need the Europeans around here uh best spoken analysis chill one piece YouTuber I do appreciate it though thank you very very much appreciate the content time to give back thanks a lot man no we do need the we need the Europeans we need the Europeans um top three strongest devil fruit combo no NAA and Yumi love from Amsterdam um okay so I don't know how you do devil fruit combinations like that cuz it's like I feel like it would be Sugar Plus something although one of the things is that like hockey makes it really difficult to to do this sort of thing anymore to me because it's like um some devil fruits that were just broke in the past that I viewed as broke I'm like okay but now their broke ability doesn't really matter as much due to hockey Like You could argue that sugar is one touch cuz I I could like if I were to do perfect combination so would maybe be something like law and Sugar's ability or like Kuma and Sugar's ability something that allows you to get to the opponent really fast and then touch them with sugar I feel like that would be the the ultimate combination but it's not now it's all questionable because it's like well if the opponent has strong enough hockey then could they just be immune to Sugar's abilities you know so strongest devil fruit combinations like now I'm leaning more towards like just straight up straight up power stuff that would be most like if you have the gura gurom me and really good like like it might just be like you if you need to beat your opponent with straight up power um rather than hacks then a lot of hack abilities let's throw them out the window so more so stuff that would help you in just straight of physical combat so like maybe like gura gomi plus like kaido devil fruit like something that's just overwhelmingly strong you know um I think that's what I'm kind of leading towards like maybe kizaru's light fruit plus like um yeah kizaru's like combining things like kizaru's light fruit and like the gurug gurumi so like a kick at the speed of FL but like also an earthquake or something probably gurug gurumi plus some L I think so I can't give you three combinations cuz I'd have to think too much but those are along the lines of what I'm thinking Stanley Brandon for the two Mor remember Luffy and Zoro haven't used uh conqueror's hockey yet that's what I'm kind of like holding on to I mean we saw that Sanji like Odo remembers that these characters have powerups like Sanji flipped his eyebrow switch and he was able to deflect a Kazar laser so let's hope that we get to see Zoro get back in the action once he uses it was ambiguous whether Zoro used conquer hoaki against Luchi to begin the fight or something it was ambiguous I like to believe that he hasn't yet so we just got to wait and see we got to wait wait and see I hope that it would just feel so bizarre if if the arc ends and it's like like cuz I I get like I'm not one of those people at this point that I'm like well Zoro needs to be close to Luffy or something like that but for Luffy to leave Zoro and Sanji so far in the dust where we get an arc where like Luffy's fighting six Admiral level opponents at the same time where sanji's doing nothing zoro's handling a at best Yono first mate level character for the entire time I don't know it would feel like really strange to me um it would just feel it would feel like they're they're being relegated to being somewhat useless and um uh I think all the strats are important obviously uh Liams thanks for the five love your content always look forward to it thank you very much thanks for supporting uh cigar ver thanks for the 10 from X okay hold on Vega Punk baited Elders to come and he can show the world Su God versus demons that is why he told them to set up visuals to show show the truth Iron Giant or Giants can show how to damage elders and hold hold them off um okay I don't know about the Iron Giant thing but that's that's a possibility showing the truth so showing all okay that is a good possibility but I feel like Vega Punk there's also information that he wants to tell them I don't know if just the visual of seeing like sun god Luffy like cuz people already know what Luffy looks like they've seen the Bounty poster and everything they've seen like sun god mode Luffy or what whatever I think just the visual of seeing Luffy like okay seeing the gor in demonic form would help for sure but I think there's also information that needs to be shared and revealed you know um I don't think it's just people seeing like oh here's like the gor a demons and stuff this is like like we should rebel against the world government um you know I think there needs to be more information that's revealed it would the visual stuff does help obviously I would agree atio thanks for the five more Vinland Saga season 1 and two are Peak fiction just finished watching what's best is that there's more to come season 3 2025 also animated by m by mappa I have not watched season two of Vinland Saga I've read um I've read all of Vinland Saga up to where I imagine season 3 will end and I'll tell you right now the story of season 1 and season 2 Vinland Saga which for me was the first 100 chapters of Vinland Saga to me that was like at one point I love that so much it was um I was of the opinion that Vinland Saga could actually supplant one piece as my favorite manga no other manga have I ever Tau that when I was reading it I think Hunter Hunter at some points I I was kind of like maybe when I was a little lower on one piece at one brief window of time I was like maybe Hunter Hunter is kind of catching it CU I was really loving the boat Arc but that kind of went away uh JoJo's when I was like partway through steel ball run before it kind of disappointed me with the direction it ended up like with at least with the way it all tied up um I was kind of like oh this is coming up on one piece almost as my favorite Vin Lan Saga is the only one that actually hit a point where I was like [ __ ] this actually might have just passed up one piece or like be right there with one piece was my favorite manga it's the only one and then the Baltic Sea War Arc happened you will see in see I'm sure they'll try and adapt season 3 better in the in the anime but uh to me Vinland Saga just falls off such a Dr Cliff after the first 100 chapters I've heard good things about the most recent Arc I'm not 100% caught up but the arc that happens after we're season 2 just ended right after the first 100 chapters um to me it just it reduces so much of the beauty of what was written to like um a much much much more generic story generic uh character writing um it tramples over a lot of the development and ideas that were established um uh and I feel like a lot of it was just because the author needed a stepping stone Arc to get to his final Arc um I feel like a lot of what happened this Arc is almost unnecessary yeah so villan Saga is very disappointing for me I don't like hearing about villan Saga stuff now just because it's such a just such a disappointment for me the the direction that series ended up going um California penguin says one piece greater than Vinland Saga but you're wrong about the Baltic Sea War um all I can say is that the beauty if we're thorin's uh Arc like there's so many things that I think the Baltic Sea War Arc [ __ ] up but if I were to boil it down to one that I think is the most important where Horan's Arc ended at the end of season 2 at the end of the farm Ark right the beauty of where that ended rings so Hollow once you read the Baltic Sea War Arc and you realize that a lot of that development was actually not that concrete and um was a lot more in Theory rather than actual like his his true um like true changes in character basically um I don't like when a story walks back some previous character development just to retread the same problem again just to kind of like make things a bit more complicated because when you've done all like I think torin's Arc between prologue Arc through Farm Arc is the best Shonen manga not Shonen best manga character main character Arc that I've ever read I think that Arc is the best the next Arc turns into something very generic that I've seen a million times before and kind of takes away a lot of the beauty of what was done in the uh in the initial Arc and basically says well that wasn't actually 100% true he didn't actually 100% change as much as we thought he did he didn't actually um like truly live and breathe the philosophies that we felt that he had earned over this the story arc when you you've already earned some level of development for the character um that is that profound then to just turn it into something much more generic and messy and like just retread the same thing over and over with much less powerful storytelling or thought out storytelling to go with it uh it just it takes away from it too much for me it it basically threw away what thorin's character was shaping up to anyway I don't want to spoil I don't want to spoil um I mean I could I could do the symbol thing again um I'm not going to get into it here people want to talk about one piece I'm not going to get uh into get into it too much here um if people keep bringing up VIN and Saga then I'll then I'll go into it okay uh let me keep catching up on supers um mlon thanks a lot if cross Guild ends up coming to elb there's a very real chance that zor's fight with Luchi is his last one before mihawk there's a very real chance that zor's fight with Luchi is his last one before mihawk if cross Guild ends up coming to elb there's a very real chance that zor's fight with Luchi is his last one before mihawk [Music] um no I like to believe if cross Guild is coming to elb then that means that Zoro will get something more at this Arc cuz he would just have to you can't go from Luchi to mihawk that would be insane that makes no sense um if Luchi is his last fight here he's not fighting anybody else no kizaru no gor then there's no like mihawk cannot show up at elb because otherwise mihawk would be embarrassed to see to see Zoro today he'd just be like what you do at egad island how'd you contribute to that incident he's like well I I held off I held off the weakest opponent on the entire opponent de side one that Luffy had already defeated and was only released cuz Luffy did get like it makes so much sense like Luffy letting Luchi go makes even more sense now because like we all knew like Luffy could could just handle Lucci easily right if needed but now it even makes more sense like how callous Luffy was about letting Luchi go because think about it like if he can just handle Saturn and kizaru so easily at the same time and he knew like if I really tried like you know I can handle even these level characters this easily then for him like Luchi like there's probably almost no difference between how Luffy views Luchi versus like a generic pacifista you know what I mean like if he can do this to Saturn and kizaru in Luffy's mind Luchi probably registers on the same scale of threat as like [ __ ] Chopper you get what I'm saying like it's just so far down like Luffy's um Luffy's uh like threat perception it's literally just like yeah we can let you go like why don't you go go get the rest of CP zero let's see what happens um I think that makes it more embarrassing that it is taking Z this long um Brook is the goat thanks a lot this community likes to underrate Luffy and the opponent he faces a lot Luffy is stronger than no devil fruit red [ __ ] I was trying to process who you mean by that uh I was trying to process who you mean by that the no devil fruit red [ __ ] I was like oh Shanks [ __ ] um uh and kaido as stated bya himself the strongest pirate well kaido's never stated bya to be the strongest pirate um um but uh yeah Luffy's definitely stronger than kaido I don't know about Luffy versus Shanks yet because we don't know like Shanks if Shanks is meant to represent the ceiling of hockey in the world currently then that's a very different situation because Luffy's power at the moment is it skewes more I mean he he's also really strong in hockey obviously but like he still has steps to go in hockey right and hockey can overpower full can can overpower uh devil fruit and such so it's like it's a mixed uh who knows how Luffy versus Shanks would go just all tanks for the two Karo equals big mom Luffy would handle big mom easier to be honest okay but then you think kizaru uh then you think because like we already talk like we talked about this at the beginning of the stream like big mom scales to kaido so you think that Kazar is basically about equal to kaido too I don't think that's the case I think kaido is a half step or a step above kizaru um big mom is very close to kaido obviously we saw from their fight [Music] um I don't think Luffy would handle big mom easier than kizaru because I I still put like I I put Kido and big mom because they're essentially equals kaido is like a percentage or two stronger um and I view kaido is I I think that kaido just from seeing gear fifth Luffy versus Karo gear fifth Luffy versus kaido I think kaido was was Stronger right um both of them are still clearly underneath serious gear fif Luffy like when Luffy actually gets angry right we saw that very clearly but you know if you take goofing around Luffy goofing around gear fif Luffy versus kaido and goofing around gear fif Luffy versus kizaru kaido did better at the end of the day right like Luffy versus kizaru round one I count that as basically that's Luffy when he's goofing around versus um when Luffy fought kaido for the beginning of their fight when Luffy was goofing around kaido still did better I put kaido above kizaru by that logic I'd also put big mom above kizaru big mom is also really dumb and slow so maybe Luffy could handle big mom easier than he does I don't think he would handle big mom easier than kazari though because big mom's like a hockey monster also and like it would just I think it'd be difficult um not difficult like he'd still take her but I don't think it would be as easy as the way he's handling kazari right now I don't know I don't know and JP thanks for the 10 personally I think the gors arrival will now give the ancient robot subplot a role where will come and maybe assist Luffy I definitely agree people brought that up earlier in the Stream I definitely agree with that cuz it you need all the help you can get at this point or at least prompt an interaction from the gors yep yep I'm I agree I'm on board um is a lot stronger than Bing mom law I literally don't know why people are like it's just it just goes to show like how insane people's biases can be because Oda wrote them fighting as equals to A draw over multiple days which means that there's no no discrepancy here right like it's not like it was a skirmish it's not like um you know there was some outside factors or something like that they just fought One V one for days Days right like not not like a like not like a brief fight not like 10 chapters or something or like 10 chapter they fought for less than 10 chapters but like not like you know like 10 minutes or something they fought for days that means that it's it's similar to an ainu aokiji situation there's not a gap in which you can have kizaru fit in between kaido and big Mom unless you think that kizaru would also fight equally with kaido for days essentially to a draw it's not a thing I I don't even know what to say kaido wasn't fresh like Kar 2 yeah but Luffy was U more handicapped in the kaido fight because he was in worse Health that's established like in gear like once Luffy goes into gear fifth it's established like four different times throughout that fight that Luffy is in worse Health than kaido at that point he's basically Towing the line between life and death so kaido did fight a more handicapped Luffy than uh kizaru is Kenny says kaido wouldn't lose to Mid and flaw but neither did big mom big mom didn't either the TNT did Yousef says wasn't it one night it might have been I don't recall exactly but it doesn't like what at a certain point it doesn't make a difference right if fighting for 12 hours equally to a draw what more does Oda really need to do to establish that these two characters scale to each other I still agree kaido is stronger at the end of the day like if they if they just went all the way to the death right kaido would come out on top but he can't do he couldn't kill her over 12 hours right like and neither of them were more injured than the other they settled on a they settled on a draw there there's nothing really more the author can do to establish these two characters scaling to each other loud waffle says big mom got treated less seriously than kaido that's the only thing that makes people think there's a huge power different yes that's the thing she got treated less seriously but what Odo wants to establish about the two characters is that they scale to each other after that like once you establish that they scale to each other they scale to each other there's not really much more you can do to dispute that you know um what after that if it's just shown that one is like like Oda just kind of handles them a little more clumsily or something like that then then that's you know that's its own case but um you know uh it's already been established that they're about equal after that it's just like how the author you know um like how much the author cares to make sure that they like like don't make this character look stupid or like um how how concerned the author is with keeping the respect up of a certain character but that would never change the fact that it's already established that they're basically on the same level Don kyot do Flamingo says Mor please read my Super Chat I'm I'm catching up I'm catching up sorry sorry lot going on here catching up um okay um uh Kino the far thanks for the five I think we got the news in 1111 in 1111 in I think we get the news in 1111 instead of 1110 cuz OD like numbers gor say in 1110 also I'm on coffee 9 my heartbeat about to wake up a giant robot holy [ __ ] dude there's some people that can have insane amounts of coffee that uh I don't even know what they are um like the other day I heard about um uh a quad which is I was uh I'm not going to get into like apparently you can order four espresso shots into one in one drink basically which I did not know was a thing uh but up like uh some people just have way higher tolerance for caffeine than I do I I can have one if I have two or three in a day right now if I have three in a day I probably won't sleep too well I want to get my tolerance back up just cuz I like drinking coffee but um yeah uh right now it's at it's at like one a day and I don't I'm not going to subscribe to the numbers thing anymore the 11-11 thing um I I personally think it might take longer than that to to get to the message just because it seems like we've got the time limit situation so it probably wants to let the climax of The Ark play out you you know so we're going to get some action over the next few chapters and then we get the message um and I kind of throwing the number stuff out the window because at this at this rate it's like I don't know like Oda sticks with his number patterns in some cases but I don't think like we've kind of passed a few Milestones where certain things were supposed to happen and they didn't happen so I'm like okay maybe the numbers like Oda will probably make the numbers work when he can like when it's convenient but not necessarily he's I don't think he's married to that Stan Burton says I'm so certain Kuma is not dying morge I think you might I don't know I I [ __ ] hope so I'm just not going to think about that I'm enjoying so much about the rest of the arc and this climax that I'm just not going to think about that scenario scoutm Demi thanks for the five hey Mor what do you think about Sanji or another character disrupting the summoning all gor feels so early but 10-minute timer might call for them all gor feels so early but 10-minute timer might call for oh disrupting the summoning oh I don't want them I don't want anyone disrupting the summoning um I don't want anyone disrupting this [ __ ] summoning it seems like they were summoned at the end of this chapter it seems like they've been summoned because come on like we want to see the gors say if Sanji disrupts this [ __ ] summoning that is not a w all right [ __ ] Sanji he's not coming in clutch if he does that all right I know I'm responding to a hypothetical here but [ __ ] that [ __ ] he better not disrupt this [ __ ] summoning no one better disrupt the summoning all right I don't care who it is we need to see what we were promised at the end of this chapter which is all five gor showing up on this island that's exciting um the real G re thanks a lot tentata is negative that g Porsche thanks for the five monster quartet don't say monster quartet it's the monster Trio don't say monster there's no such thing as the monster quartet monster Trio or whole crew versus gor I would love to see the other strats participate against the gor but they also might die like if usab looked at aor I think he could just die also why would all the gor why would all the gors physically arrive to A Dying Island maybe Saturn is just making summons um I mean in theor like they could all they're all arriving to try and stop the worst case scenario most likely um and Saturn doesn't feel confident that he can take care of Luffy that that quickly even with kar's help so they're all being summoned there just to win with overwhelming Force um and they can most likely summon themselves out at like get summoned back to marijua if necessary right um Diane Dylan lington thanks for the five it almost looks like kizaru is crying this chapter I'm curious as to what you thought about that dude kizaru is going through it kizaru's situation is so interesting I'm still really really holding out hope that we get um some sort of character change for him by the end of this Arc I think it's still very very very powerful or power powerful probable possible um I think it's very very possible but the scenario that I think it could happen again I like I If you were watching earlier the stream I got an idea for it so I started writing up notes but I don't know if I want to share it right here um I think there's a very interesting scenario in which it could happen um I'll leave it alone for now but I feel like it would be after the message for Vega Punk plays I think after that kizaru could have a character change Also let's get the stream like up to 500 real quick JP thank you for the 10 if Vega Punk's message causes Kazar to switch sides I can see it angering Ayu to make the Marines break off Ayu making his own bid against all oh [ __ ] JP with the comment of the guys JP with the best comment CU this is what I was I was kind of waiting for for the longest time which was like um okay so let me read out as full comment I can see it angering Ayu to make the Marines break off ainu making his own bid against all groups for justice would be so exciting this is something that I felt might happen not necessarily like I I just always felt like as though the story's heading towards a direction where the celestial dragons are being presented as the final villains and and then the Marines are kind of taking like oda's kind of going a slightly different route with the Marines where it's more morally gray and ambiguous where they're going to stand at the end of all this and it feels like they're going to be their own Force right because the celestial dragons are being given off this other stuff right um we know the gors are strong im's obviously strong but then the holy Knights seraphim cp0 goes to them like they have their own like pacifistas Etc they have their own sort of army for themselves right and the marinees and the celestial dragons have been verbally they've been labeled into two separate categories over the course of the story particularly over the last several arcs starting from revery it's mentioned through wano like even Orochi is talking about like the Marines Celestial dragons I don't fear either of them stuff like that like they're being made more distinct as the story has gone on and we're seeing like more more complexity to the Marines like between kizaru fujitora um sword Kobe all of this stuff Goku like the higher ups of the Marines are very complex in terms of their views and everything like that and Aku disagrees with with what a lot of the gor do right there's more complexity there and then the celestial dragons are just the the terrible big bads so if there's a trigger for these two parties to just separate entirely Vega Punk's message could really really really be it and like it would be so perfect for the fight like imagine how sick that would be if the Marines and the celestial dragons straight up separated that would be amazing like think about that like it would create make the Battle Royale so much more hype so much I do think akanu is a Villain Like I think he'll be like I'm not saying the Marines just become good guys I I've said before I think the strats fighting the Marines is important but it feels like a separate conflict defeating the Marines versus defeating the celestial dragons so I feel like Marines being their own enemy entity cuz they're not good guys now but um I feel like a kind who has his own vision of justice for the world that would not fit with the idea of emu ruling everything right Celestial dragons as villains Marines as villains Blackbeard Pirates as primary villains I think that'd be really really interesting like that a lot um let's get the stream likes up to 500 real quick um JP great stuff man uh I like that I love that idea the Outback pandas thanks for the five last time we saw Kuan he was hiding his tears for GARP now presumably borsellino is crying for Vega Punk which Admiral is crying next um green bull just he's G to have a PTSD nightmare about Shanks I feel like greenbull probably cries on the regular just through PTSD from that incident um but yeah I mean I don't know I I feel like ayu's got room for some some character stuff I don't know if I could imagine ainu crying over anything um yeah like I think we're we're kind of already dealing with the more morally morally conflicted Admirals like a aiji kizaru fujit Tor he knows where he stands he he's not morally conflicted right green bull opposite right um bun Forum thanks for the five morid Freeman we know that uh that Vice Admirals are heading towards Bonnie's group do you think OD will finally have Kuma fight dying in the process I think Kuma has to like to me Kuma making a sacrifice especially for his daughter or for Luffy would be really really good for way to go out um Miss mste evil says work done for Dragon he doesn't even have to do do anything l dude Dragon yeah like thanks to Luffy and his Shenanigans so much of dragon's work is just being done for him um [ __ ] where is that um yeah I I don't know if like I do think Kuma fighting will be important but I feel like more so um just just a sacrifice Kuma sacrificing himself in some way I think that that should happen by the end of this um the Practical one thanks for the 10 Dragon still hasn't done anything besides look East he barely even reacted to what is essentially confirmation that he lost another friend I'm really starting to wonder what his role is how tight are dragon and Vega punk though like I I don't I feel like people have ascribed so many character expectations of how Dragon should feel about incidents just based on um the way that Luffy is the way that Shanks is the way that Whitebeard the way that like a lot of other Pirates are but dragon's not like he's a revolutionary he's a re like like it's it's different I I don't think think Dragon was even established to be tight friends with Vega Punk if you go back and read their Ohara like their Ohara interaction it was just like um it was tur above all else it was tur like they they're two people who are both like fighting for something they they seem to respect one another but it's not like they're [ __ ] nakama like I it's just bizarre I think Luffy considers Vega Punk a better friend than dragan does I think that's entirely possible I think there's mutual respect there we know that Shaka was talking to or like Vega Punk or whoever was talking to Dragon at the beginning of the ark that doesn't mean that dragon's like I don't think there's any like like maybe there's some emotional connection there maybe Dragon will feel bad but like dude like where did this fantasy come from that like dragon is like Luffy and he probably feel like he should have a bleeding heart and really be in tears that VAP Punk died I why why should Dragon even give a [ __ ] um if anything Dragon might give a [ __ ] more so that like um the ramifications like World ra like World ramifications like what could happen um like the reveals and everything like that I'm sure Dragon will care about that but I don't know it's same with the jinny stuff it's just like Dragon didn't go after jinny it's like where when are they what are the panels that show that they're even close um isn't she just a commander in his army as far as we know like where is it shown that they're tight um I don't get it uh like I I I really don't don't get the the dragon slander um because it's just it's ascribing random expectations based on how Luffy works or Shanks works or Whitebeard works it's like no there's a reason this [ __ ] is like in a totally different like totally different life path and priorities you know he's he's a [ __ ] revolutionary it was shown that dragon is friends with Kuma though like they were like that was established um during Kuma's flashback he wasle clearly close with Kuma Dean Wright says Mor that was 22 years ago veap Punk called Dragon when he thought uh he was going to die there's clear they clearly have more of a connection but calling him when when he's going to die doesn't mean that it was like some heartfelt like you're my best friend type speech it's more like like I mean we we don't know what it was but that's my point like unless it's established that it's a friendship thing dragon's the [ __ ] world leader in fighting against the world government Kuma is out here working to also displace the world government if VAP Punk thinks he's going to die and he calls dragon that doesn't mean that they're [ __ ] friends that just means that we literally don't even know what it means till we get access to what that conversation was but that that does not mean in the slightest that they're actually like emotionally bonded to one another um I don't know it's just weird assumptions that people make for no reason Rodrigo Lia says come on just a commander I mean um was it established that they're close close like was it established that they're am I missing something was there some panels of dragon and jinny like bonding the way that dragon and Kuma we saw I don't think I'm missing anything there but like why would dragon Go to bat for like every single soldier in his army cuz that's never what the like the Revolutionary Army has literally never been suggested to be about that like not even once I don't know like when you join whitebeard's crew you're being welcomed into the family I don't think it's ever suggested that the that the Revolutionary family is the same way right so if you harm one of whitebeard's friends then obviously he's going to like one of his subordinates obviously he goes to war for you shank same thing like everybody that's being brought into his Fleet they're under his protection he takes care of them right Luffy same thing we do not know how the Revolutionary Army [ __ ] functions it could be [ __ ] closer to the Beast Pirates than than the rest of uh than the pirate Crews we know you know we know that a lot of them consider each other friends like um Sabo considers Kuma friend uh some of the commanders like each other and stuff like that we don't know how Dragon considers the rest of them right and keep in mind like this is nothing new as far as Dragon knew like Ivon COV and Morley were [ __ ] like trapped in impel down for years being tortured to death he didn't give a [ __ ] about them either um like they had it just as bad as jinny as far as he knew like ionov at the very least as far as dragging you had it as bad as jinny you know Ivanov was being tortured in level five level six of uh hell Hill Dow for like for like years like that's that's not relevant to him you know oh let's get the stream likes up to 500 real quick all right um remix King thanks for the two anyone remember when York was the biggest threat oh my [ __ ] god that is so I I completely forgot where this Arc started completely forgot where man the middle the middle section of this Arc where we had no idea where how things were going to shape up or how big this incident was going to be and we were being like pulled Along on this like Mickey Mouse who done it that lasted like eight chapters and didn't really have any Stakes that was something else like it is crazy that the arc turned into what it did um Taylor wrestle thanks a lot it is my greatest hope of hopes that when Dory and brogie finally catch up to Luffy he's still in gear F giant mode and they high five dopest [ __ ] I can imagine it's the little things that would be really cool imagine Luffy doing like an elb Canon like them like they do banor thanks a lot I get really escalated from like from zolik 20 chapter Arc to stall eldri Horrors uh I've never known how to pronounce this eldrich is it eldri eldrich Abominations eldri Abominations eldrich whatever you know what I'm saying stall eldrich Horrors gor as dying Vega Punk is revealing void Century lore I love it dude this Arc has much like sabot this Arc has spiraled Way Beyond uh imagination like this is batshit crazy I I like the way this Arc scaled was essentially like again we we thought it was going to be shter shark and we were initially just excited that we're finding out Vega Punk we assumed we'd find out about lore information right that was what we were excited about initially okay then partway through the ark it's like okay Luchi is coming over and you guys remember this [ __ ] like Luchi is coming over and we were kind of like this is cool like people were excited when Luchi was revealed to be coming like not super excited but it was kind of like okay this is like like this is cool this is a throwback there's going to be some villains in The Arc cuz a lot of people thought that there would be no action even like a lot of people felt like it would be like zo um partly it was also yeah like we were getting action sequences outside like Blackbeard versus law so it was like maybe that's where the action will be so I like okay we're going to get a little bit factured we're getting Luchi and then the Luchi incident goes down and then it's like okay wait things are kicking up a notch they're actually sending the Admirals they're sending kizaru and vice Admirals holy [ __ ] kizaru aru and vice Admirals nobody thought that Luffy would be fighting an admiral this Arc going into it so that was exciting on its own when they're sending in kizaru and vice Admirals right and then on the other hand you got Luchi and seraphim that was exciting that was a cool setup that alone like just if you're thinking back I remember the community Hub around that time that alone seemed like an exciting prospect more than people ever expected egad Island it was like holy [ __ ] the scale is really going up we're going to fight kizaru Vice Admirals like a buster call we're going to get Luffy versus an admiral that's what were hyped about for a bit then we find out that Saturn is strong Saturn transforms and it's like holy [ __ ] there was someone stronger than kizaru heading to us that's insane kizaru is not even the big bad like Luffy is going to fight someone stronger than Admiral and now it's like it's like there's five Saturns and kizaru's still there and Luchi is still there and all these [ __ ] Vice Admirals are still there it it like it just it kept snowballing and blowing up and just like the amount that Oda held back what actually going to be the final Conflict of the Ark is just [ __ ] mind-blowing like like if you could just talk to your past self like like when I found out kizaru was showing up I was like man I wish I could tell my past self that like [ __ ] an admiral is going to be showing up at this Arc I would have been more excited for this arc when Saturn transformed I was like man my past self would have been so shocked to think that there was someone stronger than an admiral that's going to be fought this Arc and now I'm just like holy [ __ ] like it throwing the kitchen sink everything the bathtub everything at this Arc like [ __ ] Saturn we're we're Quin tippling down on Saturn we're fighting five Saturns and Kazar is still here Yousef says Luffy versus kizaru was [ __ ] though yeah I agree that the fight was I wouldn't say [ __ ] but I agree that the fight didn't live up to the hype behind it but um I'm saying heading into it everyone was excited that Luffy is's going to fight an admiral right when we found out Kazar is being sent to to the island everyone was excited I would say that Luffy versus kizaru not being that crazy at the end of the day um like it was a forgettable fight it's an okay fight forgettable fight fun fight kind of but I would say that that being not that exciting at the end of the day was simply because it was it's a warm-up fight for the ark like it wasn't supposed to be that big of a deal like ultimately Luffy versus an admiral shouldn't be a competition now is basically what we're being told like duh Luffy versus garu wasn't that exciting is if Luffy actually tries he's out of this dude's League you know throw him throw six gazar at him let's see what happens that's basically where we're at right now um isan Nazir thank you for the 10 normally watch your vods but first time catching you live this is I'm seeing this in Great British pounds so again we got a um another European viewer so happy to be seeing so many European people in chat I guess everybody can kind of yeah people who normally don't get to check it out your analysis is a big reason why one piece is my favorite manga thank you I'm always happy to hear like um if I'm able to actually help enhance people's enjoyment of the series that's always fun to hear lucky man thanks for the five morge are you worried about power creeping here feels like we're dealing with OT tensei with the infinite regeneration um I'm going to be honest I don't think that um Saturn Saturn's power is like like I'm I'm not thinking Saturn's power is some broke power or anything like like to me it's like Saturn needs this regeneration to be able to keep keep up with Luffy so I'm not viewing Saturn's power as that broke just yet um it is obviously pretty crazy what he's able to do regeneration wise but um I always like if you're outmatched in the fight itself then the Regeneration aspect is more so a very tricky inconvenient thing to deal with rather than like like oh no Saturn's too p i I don't get the sense that Saturn's too powerful for Luffy or that Saturn's like more powerful than like kaido or something like that you know um just difficult more more like tricky and hard to put down than you know I mean like we we dealt with this earlier in the arc like the [ __ ] seraphim are are hard to put down and damage um obviously Saturn's stronger than seraphim but you get what I'm saying right like I I don't think this makes Saturn too strong like I don't think it's power creeping in that sense Luffy on the other hand what again what he did this chapter nobody else has done anything like this in the entirety of One Piece you could say power creep is happening there but I also think it's just like we're in the final Saga it's time to start opening up our minds to just um how high the ceiling will actually go you know as kaido would say uh because emu is going to be on a totally another level right um we can imagine that emu likely is stronger than all five of the gor right just based on past experience with one piece villains oh [ __ ] what's going on hello hello hello fine now um what I was talking about was power creep um yeah I mean like just imagine this emu is most likely stronger than all five Goro right think about that however strong the Gores each are individually emu is most likely stronger than all five gor that's generally how these sort of things are with like one piece villains like doflamingo is strong like just in general like let let's backtrack here right kaido versus King Queen and Jack kaido would destroy king queen and jack it would be a [ __ ] Massacre right um big mom versus her sweet commanders yeah big mom would destroy her sweet commanders right do flamingo versus his seats yeah do Flamingo would destroy his seats like [ __ ] law could One-Shot Virgo you know um crocodile versus Baroque Works members yeah crocodile runs the gauntlet effortlessly um anel versus his priests you know um done uh Luchi versus I think Lucci might have some trouble against Kaku and jabura and like I I still think I don't know that that's whatever ever um but you get what I'm saying like usually the boss like our long versus his subordinates there's a big big big gap right so um like just think about that like the how how strong the gors are right now it's giving us an idea of how strong E's going to be because I don't imagine that Luffy can handle all five gor and most likely the boss emu is going to be stronger than all five gor right think about it like that um yeah and in order for Luffy to become pired king Bring Da of the world Etc by the end of the story like it's giving an idea of how high the ceiling of the story is it is pretty [ __ ] insane Blackbeard I think is he needs to catch up but Blackbeard is a character that is primed to catch up because he can eat more fruits um he has the yamy yomi which we don't know the full potential of yet Yami yomi is a effective counter most likely to Luffy's fruit especially maybe Awakening would just allow him to cancel devil fruit effects in the area or something that's probably too speculative but um I do think Blackbeard was given the yamy you know me which has the ability to cancel out devil fruit abilities for a reason which is to help counteract Luffy's own broken fruit right um yes spanm is technically the boss um JD says does Luffy beat zor Sanji jinbe at this moment in time right at this moment in time I I could not possibly offer an argument otherwise I would love to see that change I would love to see Zoro Sanji showing things in the next chapters that suggest that yeah they can still like together they they could still give Luffy a run for his money or something but I don't think Zoro and Sanji are stronger than Admirals right now and Luffy is manhandling two an admiral level characters at this moment in time there's no argument that I could reasonably unbiasedly make right now based on things that zor and Sanji have shown to say that Luffy and jinbe is no Factor he's literally not a factor right there's no nothing I could say like what am I supposed to say like what the [ __ ] would they do that like kizaru and like you get what I'm saying like just look at this chapter how can you possibly argue that Zoran Sanji and jinbe could do could could handle Luffy right now you know um yeah um I would love to see that change down the line because I do think that um Luffy's commanders have always been much stronger than like his opponent's subordinates you know so like whereas the Gap because you usually the way fights against opponents go is like Luffy versus the boss is like very close and contentious and there's like lots of context involved but zor and Sanji tend to clean up their fights easier than than Luffy right like once Zoro got his power up once Sanji got his power up they both stomped king and queen you can kind of go back through the story right like zor and Sanji like once they got their power-ups they stomp Kaku and jaura um whereas L Luffy goes like high diff with Luchi like they're much stronger than o OPP their opponents in arong park right um so historically yeah like on the villain side the boss is like way stronger than the commanders whereas on the hero side it's like zor and Sanji are closer to Luffy than other groups subordinates usually are to their bosses but at this moment in time it does not feel that way at this Mo at this moment in time it feels like the Gap is as big as it's ever been probably bigger than it's ever been unless zor and Sanji are able to show stuff by the end of this Arc right there's still the opportunity for that still the opportunity for that I'm crossing my fingers for that um I just can't put together a coherent argument for why that would be the case of them being close right now you know we all we can do is hope let's just hope Matias says Luffy's a damn yonko I I don't even like to me it's like not even like Luffy's a damn yonko big mom could not do this to kizaru and Saturn kaido could not do this to kizaru and Saturn nobody El like no like Whitebeard at Marine Ford could not do this to like kizaru and another Admiral at the same time every Admiral at Marine Ford was giving Whitebeard trouble I'm not saying Whitebeard would have lost to each Admiral at Marine Ford he's still like I'm just saying it was like they were they were like he wasn't he wasn't like manhandling them low diffing them two at a time like Luffy is right now what Luffy is doing right now is not it's not comparable to anything any other yonko has done so far so it's not like people are talking about like yonko versus Admirals this is not a Yono versus Admirals discussion Blackbeard could not do this to kizaru and Saturn right now Blackbeard [ __ ] strugg like he had more difficulty fighting law One V one than Luffy is having right now fighting two Admirals at the same time right this is not a yonko versus Admirals thing Luffy is in his own category he is not a standard yonko this is Joy boy reincarnated this is the dude that is going to bring the dawn of the world this is something else there's no other character like Luffy I'm not saying he's like top two in the world or anything like that right now I'm just saying right now we have literally like this is not representative of what average Yono level means anymore we we don't know where he scales to right now we literally don't know all right we literally don't know kaido can you think kaido can Loi two Admirals at the same time because if you go look at the rooftop fights there's no evidence that suggests that like there there's nothing like just look at big mom versus kid- in-law and that should tell you that kaido cannot do that to two Admirals at the same time because big mom again Oda made it very clear kaido and big mom scal to each other they fought for a full day night whatever went exactly even during that period of time fought to a draw is kaido probably ultimately slightly stronger yes but we know for a fact kaido and big mom are meant to be in the story perceived as roughly equal to each other right um there's even comments like okay it's like there's two k and stuff like that when they're fighting them on the rooftop right they're supposed to be roughly equal big mom goes High diff against kid- in- law luy low diffing two Admirals kaido and big mom cannot do that based on anything that we've seen there's no evidence to suggest that they could do this what Luffy is doing right now there's nothing in the story that suggests that nothing whatsoever um what what is that based stop what would like K kaido destroy Saturn Kazar when has kaido ever done anything close to that like these are two Admiral level characters right kaido and big mom together on the rooftop could not take out like all five Supernova and the five Supernova all of them are way weaker than Admirals at that point in time yeah he wasn't alone versus five he was with big Mom this is so bizarre people try and ignore big mom anytime they big up they bring up kaido kaido and big mom are shown to be equal to each other it was a f 2v5 so was kaido and big mom together versus all five Supernova and they couldn't put the Supernova down and this was before all the supernovas started using their power-ups like Awakenings um Advanced conqueror hockey all of that stuff Yousef says kaido doesn't lose to kid in-law no I agree kaido would beat kid- in-law big mom also didn't lose to kid in- law she lost to the TNT but um that's not the same as Luffy low diffing two characters that are way stronger than kid- in-law right like I agree kaido would probably ultimately beat kid in- law for sure it would still be difficult for him what Luffy is doing right now is not difficult for him and he's doing it to two characters that are stronger indisputably than kid and law right soul killer says there's no evidence at all that Luffy is tanking 1% of the attacks of kaido um I mean Luffy's historically been um very very damage resilient but that doesn't matter it's not a competition about who can tank more Luffy if he can just effortlessly dispose of his enemies like this with zero difficulty they can't even touch him right like what what does it matter if they need to damage him or not or how much damage he takes icy Jim says kaido can push gear fif to extreme there's your evidence right there see the thing is that um that was gear fif Luffy the first time that he was using his ability day1 gear fifth Luffy that was already severely severely injured and was more injured than kaido was you got to go back and read if you read that fight it is established multiple times by Oda that Luffy is severely handicapped there and is more injured than kaido in that moment because Luffy is literally like he just died and he's 1% away from Death that entire section of the fight right that is stated multiple times throughout that fight and kaido's even like how are you still [ __ ] going like how are you still like you're pretty much dead dude like how are you still doing this that's established throughout the fight right I know kaido himself was obviously injured but you can't take away from the fact that oda's making it very explicitly clear that as injured as kaido is right now you need to understand that Luffy is the one that is closer to death so kaido is fighting a Luffy who just caught Awakening right first time he's ever using it he's taking it out on a [ __ ] joy ride right that's Luffy trying gear fif out for the first time on a joy ride he has zero experience using the form it's Luffy with basically like clinging to cling to Life by like the tiniest tiniest of threads right he's barely alive that entire of time he's fighting kaido and he still straight up overpowers him right like you know that kaido cannot do this what Luffy is doing right now to to Saturn and kizaru because we've already seen over the course of like the Feats from kaido and big mom in the Rooftop in onima battle they're not capable of that sort of thing they could not if they could if they were then the rooftop battle would have been over in like a chapter you know Z Ali says why one piece Community hates Luffy and downplay him I I literally don't know it's like it's not that complicated we've already seen comparisons right we've already seen kaido and big mom roughly equal right big mom goes about high diff with law kid Luffy Stomps two Admirals at the same time it's it's not comparable right there's nothing to suggest that kaido and big mom could be doing what Luffy is doing right now I I I don't know what the argument is to try and like like why people are so obsessed it's like we're going for much bigger fish here right like Luffy's not going to be Yono level like comparable to Yono soon he's going to be pirate King level soon if not close to touching there right pirate king and then [ __ ] Joy boy Jesus Savior of the entire world inheritor of the will of D from 800 years ago like it's a totally different level right I don't know what this obsession is with like people feeling like trying to downplay what he is all the time cuz like if you said what Luffy did this chapter if you said any other character did it people would have called you insane like it's like oh yeah there's a chapter where like like imagine some spoilers came out it was like there's a chapter where like Roger low diffs two Admirals at the same time he just [ __ ] flattens them like pancakes and slaps him around at the same time people would be going nuts and being like holy [ __ ] Roger this is Way Beyond any other Yono like this is so totally different level or something like that like people would be [ __ ] creaming their pants people would be calling it fake Luffy just did something that most of the community did not think was possible for any character to to do period right so let's not underrate this this is insane let like let the hype let the excitement of where the story is going where the main character is going like like just embrace it don't downplay it you know gold says he's the goat man exactly like this is like this is Joy boy this is this is like what the whole story's been building to why try and downplay it or like try and like contradict it you know it's an easy fight I don't know anybody like there were debates like can Roger beat two Admirals at once can Roger beat like three Admirals at once or something Luffy like this these were debates back in the day you know like these were like it seemed so absurd for a character to be able to do that to two Admirals at the same time Luffy can do it easily to two Admirals at the same time easily they need to call in [ __ ] four more do you know how [ __ ] insane that is like this is this is [ __ ] insane I I don't I don't even know what to say o says emu being stronger than this is insane yeah emu is going to be stronger than all five gors that's why I don't think that the power creeps a problem it's just like yeah this is the direction that we should go like we're in the final storyline this is the last storyline of one piece we should be in this sort of power range basically where like the final boss is stronger than all five gors they combined etc etc all right um Bingle de oop thank you for the 20 man Vega Punk's reason for the video stream could be patching into a live CCTV Network where he can live stream the destruction of Egghead the gors might have just [ __ ] themselves by turning into a Luffy versus gors ppv yeah yeah I mean like and the gors like this was talked about earlier by someone in the Stream like the goray are the ones who are going to look like the bad guys just cuz literally they're they're uh they're going to look like demonic monsters during this fight um and they're going to be the ones destroying all the technology and everything like that it's going to be interesting um definitely definitely agree reflexi thanks a lot big mom slander is crazy just ignore the morge I mean it is what it is uh I mean I slander big mom a lot too but I'm just like any slander that applies to big mom you kind of got applied to kaido too because it's established that they're about even um L man says I could see one 1111 being big for Zoro yeah maybe I mean it would be about time for him to actually do some stuff like it would be cool it would be cool um Na Nathan CC thanks of the five what do you think of the two tiny panels next to dragon's reaction to me it looks like Dragon may actually be on the move I wouldn't want Dragon to show up here but I I think that with more gor showing up I think that there's a shot because it's just like how do you deal with all these gor at the same time man I personally wouldn't care for Dragon showing up here just because it's like I feel like this is Luffy and the straw it's time to shine but you know it's just hard to say um he could be moving but at the same time it's like I think Oda uses those lines sometimes when he's just panning from panel to like location to location um Breezy 2x thanks for the five what's the best villain group in manga also can you fight you keep asking me that I've not started taking the boxing lessons just yet again maybe next week is when I'll be good to start my cardio is pretty good now my cardio is pretty good now so I think I could start best villain group in manga uh I I don't know I don't know um I have my like I think Akatsuki was a great villain group I just not super invested in Naruto and I wasn't super invested in Naruto for a long time so you know they're very iconic for a reason they're [ __ ] like they're iconic to the point that even in my time in high school which was the olden days before Anime was super mainstream right even then like you would still see like weeb sometimes showing up with like a katsuki clothing and stuff like that right so the katsuki are very iconic for sure um best villain group is tricky though in general cuz it's just like like what do you even call like I think the Marines in one piece are a phenomenal villain group from top to bottom and like they're becoming more interesting the further The Story Goes but are they really a villain group at the end of the day I don't know um I think most one piece villain groups tend to be too short-lived for them to fall into that category um outside of of things like the Marines you know who are throughout the entirety of the story but most one piece villain groups they go down in like an arc or so um so I'm going to take one piece out of it I do think you need stuff like Akatsuki or aspada that really last a good percentage of the story to to really make a great impact I don't know I don't even know what you mean by best because it's just like best written I guess like I a lot of people love um Hunter Hunter villains I would think I think cimar ants I think cimar ants but like soft Hunter Hunter I love this new method so I'm going to put up these two fingers once I'm done putting up those two fingers the hunter hunter spoilers are over and it's not even be that spoilery I this is the new method this is what I'm going to do to avoid spoiling people on anything in the future all right so two- finger method so um with Hunter Hunters cimar ants it's just like they're a villain group but by the end you don't really feel like they're a villain group so to me they're the best written cast of antagonists that I I've read in a story like a full ensemble cast of antagonists but it just doesn't feel like they're antagonist by the end of that Arc you know it it it's meant to be very murky and like the lines are supposed to be blurred on both sides um like by the end of the arc you feel much more Purity toward like in terms of like who meim is and what he became compared to who gone is at this point and what gon's become right or at least what gon's like character art like just opposite directions obviously and that's the point of it um so I would say if we're saying broadly speaking antagonist groups I would say cant um but then in general I don't know if they would even count um JP thanks for the 10 if devil fruit Spawn from dreams as part of the reason the ancient Kingdom's ideology is suppressed is to stop the literal potential dangerous manifestations of the ideology um I I don't know if that's the case cuz it's just like so many of these devil fruits like they've just just being around forever right so it's like they're already spawned um like the NAA fruit already exists um I don't know if it's to stop the spawning of more devil fruits or anything like that necessarily I'm not sure I'm not sure um I could see that being an argument but all that stuff already exists the homunculi Phantom troop um homunculi homunculi like this is from Full Metal Alchemist for those who don't know I like the homunculi I definitely don't think the hamular is as well written as the camar ants I I just think that I think they're good I think that they've got some shining stars and Shining characters like like Envy um I I think they're definitely interesting I just don't quite feel like I don't know yeah I think the Mona are a good group I I'd say they're yeah Mona I think that's a great answer honestly it's just um maybe for me I don't think I would put them that high part of it is I also just don't put Full Metal Alchemist that high even though I've said this before Full Metal Alchemist is a really really really good series I think it's one of those rare series that one ends well like ties up everything well like you're able to read the full watch the full story from start to finish and feel like satisfied at the end of it I think that's phen phally rare really [ __ ] rare okay um I also think it's a series that has very few it's not bad at anything I don't think like I would if you were to rate it in categories across the board like Characters themes um plot structure buildup um tension Stakes Etc stuff like that I would give it like an eight or nine out of 10 in almost in like everything except for art style um like I think it's a series that's really good across the board it has no real flaws right and there's no sections of the story that I think are bad um it just doesn't reach certain highs for me like emotionally dramatically or anything so I don't have a strong attachment to that Series so maybe that's why I don't think right off the bat of like Huli being like I in general I just don't think of characters from um full meta alchemist that often or like they don't really come to mind for me that often that's maybe more personal thing I don't know um but uh yeah uh still think it's a great great Series yeah I'm I'm I'm getting the I'm getting to the supers um if I actually miss one so here's how you know if I've missed a Super if I say somebody super that came um that came after you and I haven't said yours yet that I've missed something um but I'm going in order um s Asik thanks a lot Kuma separates the straw hats to uh to the places we've cut to no do not separate the strats I I hope the strats do not get separated that would be insane but that's good call back though um oh andm is this uh onstein SM no I'm too probably too dark souls pilled oh and S thanks for the vi egad is full callbacks to the Ohara incident I mean it's callbacks to a lot of [ __ ] Ohara incident for sure sabot yeah do you think Vega Punk's message will finally reveal the ancient Kingdom's name um I would really love if Robin is able to do that sort of thing personally I would really like if Robin's able to do that sort of thing um just me personally I I would prefer if Vega Punk's message is more so targeted at what the world government is doing today and the truth behind Society Etc today and then Robins is more history focused like how did we get here what was the story way back when I also feel like that might make a bit more sense just because like if Vega Punk were to give a history lesson like here's what your government is like today and how it actually came to be I feel like that shouldn't really matter right because 800 years is so [ __ ] long ago um cuz like the United States isn't even 800 years old right um like if if somebody were to come out today and be like get this everybody this nation it was founded on slavery shouldn't we all rebel against the world government I'd be like like come on like it's just it it doesn't [ __ ] matter for you today right um the the ancient history will be relevant to understanding how we got here in like the true origins of evil of the world government but like for for most civilizations what the government did 800 years ago or how a nation came to be 800 years ago is completely irrelevant to how you would feel about it today right again obviously the United States is bad for like a million reasons today but those are modern-day reasons right like if you tell me like get get this Columbus and the like and the [ __ ] whoever Mayflower people whatever like whoever them whoever they were like they came over and like they killed all of the Native Americans and stuff stuff like that and then they took over this country you're living on a country built on like murder and genocide and stuff we already know that and we still don't rebel against the world like the US government we know it like you get what I'm saying like that's really really bad and terrible and wrong but it's it's so many years ago it's just not going to have any sort of effect on um on modern day Society you get what I'm saying um it's just the way that people fundamentally work so that stuff's not that important um to getting people to wake up up you know like you could reveal to all the American people today it's like guess what even before the Native Americans there was another civilization that was here in the United States and we killed all of them too and took over and presented ourselves as the bad as the good guys you could tell us that it would like we'd be shocked and maybe upset and stuff and be like man the US government were even worse than we thought but like it's 800 years ago no one's going to do anything about it right um it's just it's just the way it is um so I feel like it would make more sense to me if Vega Punk reveal stuff that is relevant today here's how the government is today here's what they're hiding from you today here's the stuff that they're doing in secret today here's the types of weapons they have today um here's their plans for today for like a great cleansing or something here's what they did to lose your kingdom like yesterday all of the today like people ultimately will only care about the evils that are being done today um there's no one's going to do a [ __ ] Rebellion based on some [ __ ] that happened 800 years ago so I would love if Vega Punk's reveals are all modern and then Robin can give us the re the reveals l wise because that goes into prophecies what Luffy is supposed to do um what they need to do to free the world stuff like that so I I think that that would nicely mesh things together so I hope we don't get too much actual lore from Vega Punk because one it just seems like Irrelevant for what his goal would be and two I feel like it would trample on Robin's role you know um Amara Sinha thanks for the two well Blackbeard steal Luffy's fruits somehow that would be okay I'm not going to talk about that whatsoever because for me that's a really really interesting theory that I'm still kind of like putting pieces together for so I actually have like a full document that exists for that but um I still don't know if that's I'm not going to put that theory out till I feel like there's a couple more things that need to sort of click and make sense for me basically like how it would work um because the biggest thing is like I think there's a million signs pointing to it yes being able like being like fitting perfectly but how could that possibly happen without Luffy dying is the biggest thing right I don't know how that would work that's the biggest missing piece to that situation wisdom manari thanks for the 10 L plus ratio plus no mermaid plus swamp devil fruit love this chapter so excited about the future what's the next big video topic not wano more law and kid slander please uh three billion Bounty frauds law law and kid are [ __ ] like do you know how [ __ ] stupid it is how [ __ ] insane it is that law and kid kid who just got kid and killer who just got one shoted by Shanks they have the same Bounty as that man they have the same Bounty as Luffy who is currently no diffing an admiral and a gor and doing so well to the point that the gor needed to call in all five of the gor just to deal with him like it is insane because I I think kizaru Solo Beats kidin law personally I think kizaru solo beats kid in law like I come on like the [ __ ] is what the [ __ ] is law going to do against someone who travels at the speed of light like does he even have OBS did kid ever learn observation hockey did anyone ever teach him I don't know about that um like I I think kizaru could take kid in-law um personally and Luffy like come on now um as for the next big video topic I mean in my opinion each big video topic is a big video topic but uh next week's video is a theory on the gor so just stay tuned for that um and thanks for the thanks for the support man all right let me see um maybe I did miss did I miss Stephan Green's super I did oh I did miss yours the reason I missed oh [ __ ] [ __ ] I missed several I missed several okay hold on I missed several hold on I'm sorry let me catch these let me catch this batch um donkey do Flamingo thanks a lot morge what's something you want to see happen right now in the story but you know probably won't because of how Odo writes the story so if I was a cynical person I would say Kuma dying um but I believe that Oda will have Kuma die I just I believe um as for something happening right now in the story it would be the rest of the straw hats being relevant not zor and Sanji I could still see them making a difference as Arc but I feel like the rest of the straw hats won't get anything significant to do in the rest of Egghead Island even in this climax that we're in um I would love to be proven wrong because you know what there was a time that uh I would never have said this there was a time that I'd be like yeah of course all the stots are going to be relevant by the end of this Arc or at least most of them um so that's what I would hope for the most for the mid and lower tier strats in in strength to be relevant this s Octillery night thanks for the five hey morge hope all is well I'm super excited to see how the anime does this chapter all the gors getting summoned looks menacing you know what we might go back to a trend of me watching The Well animated episodes that have cool action sequences because I had a lot of fun watching the Blackbeard versus uh law fight that was so much fun to watch in the anime so let's wait and see yeah the anime gets to go nuts this Arc they got a lot of fun material to work with reflexi thanks a lot trans of showcasing and Elder is above a Yono um I mean there's not really any way to like the tricky thing that always says a little diff like I think it I think it would have been good to show just once even a brief interaction between kaido and big mom and some other top tier just to like or Not Top like either show us against another Admiral or show us against another Yono or something show us a glimpse of that so we get a bit of an idea of how we should view them in relation ship to everything else because at the end of the day kaido and big mom at um onig gushima the only characters we get to see them fight against are each other to kind of establish they're basically equals or roughly around the same level they fight each other and then they're fighting these upand cominging supernovas and that's a it's messy because it's like team fights first like 5v2 and then it gets into like okay well they're they're they're they're in a process of growing and like blossoming and stuff like that like they're unlocking Awakening they're unlocking like Luffy's loocking Advanced conqueror hockey zor's tapping into ashra for the first time so everything that happened in wano it's it makes it very difficult to ever scale kaido and big mom from here because it's like it's just so many there were so many moving variables in that Arc you know um so many moving variables uh it's like one day if we see Zoro and ashra fighting mihawk right it's like okay ashra Zoro scarred kaido that's pretty cool so now we get to see him against mihawk maybe this gives us an idea of how strong mihawk is but at the same time it's like okay but like how does this really tell us how how mihawk would do against kaido you get what I'm saying like because the circumstances are just so weird like Zoro was very injured right there and he didn't really know how to use Advanced conqueror hockey when he did that against kaido but it's also like well maybe kaido would have done something different if he realized that Zoro could like um was that strong in that moment or something like maybe kaid was kind taken by surprise like you know what I mean so um I I know that's not exactly so like what I'm trying to say here is like showcasing an elder is above aono I don't even view Luffy as a good representation of aono at this point because the [ __ ] that Luffy is capable of doing is just so wild it's it's hard to compare to anything else he's not as good at hockey as kaido and big mom I don't believe um like it seemed as though no matter how you spin it kaido was still better at hockey than Luffy right but his devil fruit abilities are so insane so whatever Saturn does against against Luffy here I don't really know how I would scale it against kaido and big mom like and then Shanks we never really got to see him interact with kaido and big mom either so it's like we got to see him stomp kid and killer but you know it's just like what Yono means here like like I think Blackbeard would do a lot worse than like Luffy's doing right now for sure right I don't know how kaido and big mom would do I don't think they do as well as Luffy is doing right now as I explained earlier like there's just no evidence to suggest that but it's just just it's true like things became really murky with what Luffy did this last chapter cuz this chapter is just unprecedented in terms of of what Luffy just did kid Smitty 94 thanks for the two does KY burst even get them away anymore it should right it's Cuda burst um come on it it makes them it launches them a mile right um K Maya thanks a lot yon Cooks espot pering the four Iron Chefs I didn't even know there's four Iron Chefs that's funny I thought it's just oda's way of parenting the four Emperors but I don't know what the four iron chefs are Ace Barnes thanks for the five love your stuff odds on emu appearing to take down the laboratorium right before 10 minutes are up if the gor are failing okay I don't think emu necessarily shows up but there is something that I think he could attempt that plays into what I think kizaru might I've said too much already I don't think emu will show up necessarily but it would be really cool if he did because it could allow Luffy to get one glimpse of emu and like one minor interaction that help set up for their future battle um Stefan green thanks for the 10 and I'm sorry it took so long to get get to yours um I I just didn't realize I missed this whole batch of of supers I've been saying for the longest that zorao won't defeat Luchi till 11-11 because Zora's birthday is 1111 and his Bounty is 1 billion okay yeah 1 billion 100 million and 11 um and Oda loves stuff like that um after that Oda lets him lose lets him loose in my opinion I think that would be cool if Zoro gets like a moment in chapter 11-11 like getting past Luchi and then having a big debut in the in the bigger battle against gor and kizaru um I think that would be cool I think that would be cool and I could definitely see that Oda does like doing his number stuff when it's easily fitable into what's going on right like when he has an opportunity to do so all right still catching up on supers um Justin hen thanks for the five kaido's drunken style may have slightly influenced Luffy's gear fifth based on mood swings they both have oh maybe yeah maybe um I could see that yeah I can see that um gold thanks for the five if Saturn wasn't Immortal this would be one of the craziest Feats we've seen someone could have in the story oh you're saying if Luffy just defeated him like defeated them both right here um or are you saying if Saturn just naturally tanked the attack and came back I mean both ways it makes sense but yeah if like Saturn basically took the same damage that kizaru did um like again they're both lucky that they that I mean Kazar is lucky that there was a ship there right so otherwise if there's no ship Kazar just loses um as for Saturn yeah um again if Saturn wasn't Immortal then it's possible Saturn would have lost right there too so it's hard to say I mean but the immortality is part of why Saturn's so strong so it's kind of like you can't take away Marco's regeneration from him otherwise that's like part of the point um s Asik thanks a lot do you watch UFC if so favorite fighter I do not watch UFC I'm sorry a lot of people have been like people mentioned that U sometime back but I'm just not into UFC um maybe I'll watch it at some point Patty G thanks for the five the truth of the world isn't about that it's the fact that the entire current government is a lie since someone sits on the empty Throne keep morgin yeah I'm fine with Vega Punk revealing that um what I mean is uh like just reveal the state of the world today sorry if Vega Punk reveals the state of the world today that someone is sitting on the throne that's a big deal right um going back in time and explaining like there was this ancient Kingdom and this should happen to the ancient Kingdom and then the world government and then that's why the world government actually evil and stuff or or originates from an evil place I think that stuff is better saved for down the line right like um I think emu today actually existing as a tyrant that's a big thing like reveal stuff about the state of the world today the way the world government is what they're trying to do weapons they have the way they abuse the weapons Lu Lucia Kingdom stuff like that reveal that stuff jwp thanks for the five I feel like the whole point of Lucia Kingdom's destruction was for Vega Punk's message also Vega Punk could phrase his message as an apology to the the world yeah the cuz destroying luciia kingdom is the perfect fuel for like Vega Punk revealing what the world government does and it would be a good way to apologize because Vega pun's just Oppenheimer he's literally just he's just Oppenheimer he's just Oppenheimer man he's just Oppenheimer living with regret for the weapons that he created cuz he didn't know that they would be used this way I mean Oppenheimer knew but like it's just the opid Iver story what great timing biota Angel re thanks for the 10 when VAP Punk dies and Frankie is like he was like a father to me oh my God it's just like man I we didn't we never got any good Frankie Vega Punk interactions man we just didn't Tom Tom thanks for the five hey morch I didn't get the notification for stream but it's my birthday hey happy birthday man you're 20 years old so I'm glad I can't I can catch the stream at all yeah happy birthday hope I'm making your birthday giving you some midday entertainment read one piece for all my teen years yeah one piece was a very formative series for me too cuz I read it when I was in elementary school took a break for not not readd it watched it on Cartoon Network when I was in elementary then started watching again in Middle School um on through YouTube stuff basically and then became a reader and I've been reading yeah since my teen years obviously um teen I think yeah I was a teenager when I started reading but I've been watching from even before that the black blur thanks for the five how would you feel if Bonnie tells es bear to turn Kuma's memories inside of Bonnie into a bubble and give it to es bear thus bringing Kuma back from the dead Bonnie tells espar to turn Kuma's memories inside of Bonnie into a bubble turn Kuma oh I see like cuz Bonnie has Kuma's memories inside of her so it's like giving Kuma's Memories Back oh my uh I don't as long as Kuma dies I might might be cool with that sort of thing I don't want to think about that too much cuz it's just I feel the sacrifice is so important I feel like there needs to be some permanence to the things that happen with Kuma I don't want to think about that too much but yeah um GD oh no no let me let me make sure hold on yeah gdn thanks for the two I think Kazar will flip after after veca Punk's message yeah I I I think that there's a decent chance chance of that happening definitely think there's a decent chance of that Gerald Williams says there wasn't just a ship there Luffy aimed at at this at the ship so merciful yeah I mean that's possible Also let's get the stream likes up to 600 I don't think Luffy's ever I don't think Luffy cares that much about like killing or not killing characters I think it just natur like like I don't think Luffy cares if kaido lived or died you know um like I don't think he necessarily intentionally tries to save characters I don't think he's like holding back a certain level of force to not kill characters um but he's not going to go out of his way to kill characters you know at least that's my assumption wrench Dodger 2000 says this is Luffy P since we entered wano get with the program I still believe there is room just because of the way the way this this is this battle is going right I feel like we still have room for Zoro and Sanji to shine because it's just like Zoro Sanji and I would love for the rest of the strs to shine in at least some sort of futility type way like helping in some manner maybe not going toe-to-toe with the gor but just help in some way Luffy should just eat Saturn Yousef says he has literally zero kills out the male I mean depends do you guys think kaido is dead do you think kaido's dead I don't know if kaido's dead again like I don't think Luffy's like when Luffy beat Luchi Luchi was lucky he landed on like pre-time skip not recently pre-time skip Luffy beat Luchi Luchi would have died if he fell into the sea um I don't think Luffy was like aiming to get Luchi onto uh onto a boat or anything you know um I don't think Luffy is ever like intentionally trying to not kill it just is it he just doesn't end up killing just through natural consequence of the way [ __ ] goes you know um AA thanks for the five first what do you think happens next chapter with the gors I think the giant robot stat is back to fight or Dorian broggy two cover story should be good yeah like the cover story I would be like getting really excited about it honestly um uh because it's like oh [ __ ] like we're going back to Wana we're going to find out what's going on with onima there were some loose ends in just with pluton and everything like that so maybe this could be about that but the chapter itself was so exciting it just hasn't been much of a topic of discussion so um uh with the gors I think that Luffy is going to need help no matter what I do think that this is a big spot where the giant robot can come into play I do agree people brought that up early in stream um this would be really really clutch if the giant robot could help out right now Dorian brogi we could get a bit of a sense of how strong they actually are here depending on if they're able to help at all with the gor um because if they can help it all with the goray then it's like holy [ __ ] Dorian broi are like Admiral level or something like that which I personally didn't think would be the case that guy says the men he threw off a any slob you're dead n they could probably swim or something some [ __ ] Big Al thanks to the two you think the Marine raid on Egghead is going to fail um I think they will fail to stop Vega Punk's message from playing I will say that like the Marines will stop that LE with actually interesting point but it's probably not going to happen Le said since there's no gors guarding marija is it time for Dragon to move and we get revs versus God Knights or dragon versus emu aanu So in theory yes in theory that should be what happens but I'm not g to I'm not going to count on on Dragon making his move right now I don't know what opportunity he could find possibly that would be better I cannot I literally cannot imagine a better opportunity than right now I still don't know if dragon's going to make his move right now if I'm being honest I I I have no idea when would be a better time but I'm going be honest like I would not put money down on I don't know what the [ __ ] he would be preparing for if not for right now because not only not only are um the gor missing from marijua right I believe if I go to chapter 10 1086 right if I go to chapter 1086 um [ __ ] I think it is stated that um where's this chapter come on um let's see let's see yeah if we look at 1086 then no what the [ __ ] where is it where is it where is it 1080 hello maybe 1084 excuse me guys technical difficulties right here where the [ __ ] is Dragon talking about the uh God damn it let's see let's see oh I know 1083 yeah so Dragon says um if they mobilize the holy Knights that's where the fighting will start right so it sounds as though the holy Knights probably wouldn't be at marijua either because um dragon's explaining that um they uh they what do you call okay so the successes that they had right they um the supply lines have been cut have been cut to the world government supply lines have been cut they've mobilized the holy Knights so it sounds as though the holy as though the holy Knights are probably being sent after the Revolutionary Army um because the holy Knights would just beem L anyway right they should just exist at the at marijua so if the gorus are out of out of town right gorar at Marisha holy Knights already assembled um probably being sent after the revolutionaries then who the [ __ ] guarding marija right wouldn't it just be like kizaru is not even there right it's just Stu green bll might be carrying it feels like a really good opportunity for Dragon to do something so I don't know he's too busy looking East he atte raing marijua yeah I know aku's in the Holy Land but like you're never going to get a time when nobody is there right like you're never going to get a time where literally nobody is there so if there's going to be a time where dragon's attacking this has got to be like the lowest guarded marijua has ever been so I don't know like if Dragons literally like okay I'm sorry revolutionary Army we literally cannot attack marija at all right now because there is still Ayu there it's like okay if you can't even do that like obviously aanu is supposed to be very very strong but it's just like you got to have some like what's the what's the threshold then for attacking right like it's better than Ayu plus gor plus holy nights being there right um to be fair Dragon also has no idea how strong emu is but still like you got to find out TomTom thanks for the five M you've inspired me to make one piece YouTube videos oh that's good to hear happy birthday um I'm happy that you decided to do this on your birthday but I have no idea what to do after writing the script I.E editing image fighting music/ sound Etc tips well one like you don't have to do it exactly like I do it everybody needs editing but um I mean the way I do it is for like You' I don't edit it I haven't edited the videos since like 2 since 2020 I don't think or maybe 2019 um you need to learn how to edit you need to learn how to edit man so like that's just going to be a thing that you like watch how other people's videos kind of flow don't try and shoot for like too high off a bar right off the bat um um just get like something that that's serviceable basically yeah just learn how to edit get um uh yeah get an editing software um image finding it's just how you want to present the video so like images that you think happen to go along with it or anime clips if you get anime clips keep them really short um music and sound you got to get music from places that are like copyright free um so there's resources for that um yeah royalty free copyright free or something like that yeah you probably will have to sign up for a place where you're allowed to do that sort of thing um but yeah you got to do that stuff so sorry but I I don't know off the like focus on script sound good mic and everything like that like all the small steps right so you need a good script need a good mic um need to get good at speak speaking right um get decent at edit editing figure out what you like to present in your videos is it images is it anime clips Etc and then music you like background music Etc you need to get from like a um like there's copyright free sources that you can get it from oh yeah greenb yeah greenb do we even count him greenb I don't think even counts as defense all right guys um I'm going to call stream in the next couple minutes uh let me just see if there's anything else looks like there's nothing else Phantom troop sits at the top of the well Phantom troop if we're talking about villain groups Fantom troop is tricky cuz like I don't feel like I I don't feel like I know some of the Phantom troop like I think the Phantom troop has a really interesting Dynamic and I'm not going to get into that because of spoilers and stuff like that I think they've got a really interesting Dynamic and the angle that we kind of got for them and how they're presented um in the York new ark especially and like just morally the angle that we've presented with them like it's very unique for villain groups you know um so I like that for sure um I still think like a lot of them we don't know that well like I I think in a lot of other villain group like how do I explain this their internal Dynamic is one of the most fascinating of any villain group and kind of just as an ensemble how they're presented and written and the storyline for them the the themes for them and everything like that I think that's great I think a lot of them could stand to be much more fleshed out when I think of the best villain groups um like I think a lot of the Huli were better fleshed out even um cimar an obviously uh in individually fantastically fleshed out characters across most of them um even Akatsuki I think same thing um and Phantom troop um kroo is probably the best character out of them for sure and he is fairly fleshed out relatively speaking but I will say that this is quick spoilers spoilers till my fingers go down all right um uh the recent flashback that we got for the Phantom Dro Troop wildly disappo like Beyond generic um I think it had a good start and like I think that it was like it was drawing me in but kind of the big reveals of like the emotional moments of like oh this is really what change them and stuff like like it's the most cookie cutter [ __ ] imaginable and we kind of skip over a lot of their actual like drastic change and development basically from like it's just it it was so cookie cutter and generic it actually like made me a little less excited about them as a as a group because I'm like okay it's not it's not that deep I don't know um still like the Phantom troop for sure and I think they're one of the more interesting aspects of the current Arc but just not um like I think the camaran AR like C cants are much better Virgil Hawkins thanks for being a pirate king tier member for 17 months man always good to see you what are the chances that the cover stories about big mom and kaido deciding to open an underwater restaurant together oh that'd be funny kaido can cover the the drinks big Mom the food that'd be funny choose your top five cartoon theme songs what H [ __ ] um can include four kids themes like Pokemon one piece or Yu-Gi-Oh um in that case Yu-Gi-Oh is easily first Yu-Gi-Oh's opening theme song is [ __ ] amazing um then beyond that ah [ __ ] this is going to be hard this is a great question um great great great great great great question um because there's so many good ones like yuio is easily number one Pokemon Pokemon's so played that like I get it's iconic it's just so played that it's just like um I don't know maybe I should not count anime N I don't know like Pokemon's good Pokemon's obviously really good Yu-Gi-Oh Pokemon I like uh Teen Titans I liked um SpongeBob was Danny Phantom theme song that good I don't know Ben 10's theme song was good Fairly Odd Parents was really good theme song um yeah I think that's five if I rack my brains more I don't know I'm leaving one piece out of it just because it's one piece you know like obviously I love the one piece theme song the the four kids dub especially chilax says Dark Continent hype is even worse than Phantom troop the [ __ ] doesn't exist until tagashi actually writes continent content for it um quick H Hunter spoilers till my figures go down Dark Continent I'm have such mixed feelings about because it's like I'm so insanely excited at the concept of what he might have cooked up for the Dark Continent but I'm just like he's introducing an arc where it's like about exploring a world that is vaster than the entirety of Hunter Hunter so far where in theory we're meeting like chimra ant type story lines but just screwing all over the place it just doesn't even make like how would he feasibly do that you know like how would we in any sort of satisfying way get to explore this sort of world when the man can barely like release like 20 Chapters at a time like like in a year um I I just don't understand it's just such a absurdly grandos undertaking this late into the into the story and this late into what he can probably like actually feasibly finish you know um because in theory like the like even just the fact that like it's like oh well everything we know of the Dark Continent it only even covers like the east side of the continent or something and not even the West it's like dude like even if we cover like I forget which which one but like you know what I'm talking about um like there's two books right it's like even if we cover what we've been shown of the Dark Continent it feels like that's just such a ridiculously vast storyline I I I I can't even imagine and there's other stuff that needs to be completed like like meteor City and Gyro like I don't know I'm super excited for the Dark Continent but it's just like it just seems like a dream thought of tagashi at this point practically because I can't see him finishing this boat Arc which is so absurdly dense and then getting to an arc that's going to be infinite like just blow everything else out of the water in terms of the length and depth of it you know the Dark Continent black BL says simple he has Oda to write the Dark Continent uh I think oda's writing St would be very very different from tashi's yeah the concept is fantastic all right all right guys um all right everybody I'm going to call the stream here thanks for tuning in um yeah this was a fantastic chapter I fantastic chapter to go on break on nothing else to really say other than like this is one of the coolest dark climaxes ever ending panel was amazing everything was like I'm so on on board for everything that's left for eged Island yeah all right guys all right everybody I will talk to you all later peace

Channel: Mr Morj

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Keywords: One Piece Chapter 1109, One Piece 1109, One Piece, Luffy, Gear 5 Luffy, Egghead Island, Morj, Manga, Anime

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Length: 162min 32sec (9752 seconds)

Published: Sat Mar 02 2024