KORNACKI IS AT THE BIG BOARD, MSNBC'S NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT. STEVE, WHAT CAN YOU TELL US MY FRIEND? >> OFF THE PRESSES OF DECISION DESK, THEY JUST MADE A QUALITY -- WE JUST PROJECT THAT, YES, IT WILL PASS, SHE WON, PUTTING THE RIGHT TO ABORTION AND THE STATE CONSTITUTION IN OHIO WITH THE PROVISION THAT RESTRICTIONS CAN BE APPLIED AT THE POINT OF VIABILITY AT THE 22, 24 WEEK. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE GET MORE THAN A THIRD OF THE VOTE HERE IN OHIO. YES, IT'S LEADING BY 17 POINTS RIGHT NOW. JUST SHOWING FOLKS ON CHRISTMAS SHOW A FEW MINUTES AGO, WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW, COUNT ARE REPORTING, GETTING CLOSE TO HITTING 100% AT THE, AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS THAT THERE WAS A TEST FOR THE SUMMER, WHERE OPPONENTS OF THIS PUT LANGUAGE AND ABOUT THAT SAID THEY WOULD RAISE THE THRESHOLD TO 60% FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, AS AN ATTEMPT TO DEFEAT THIS. THAT WENT DOWN TO DEFEAT THIS SUMMER, AND WE ARE SEEING IN EVERY COUNTY, THAT THEY'RE COMPLETING, WE'RE SEEING RESULTS THAT ARE BASICALLY A MIRROR IMAGE OF THE SUMMER. THE FOLKS WHO ARE AGAINST RAISING THE THRESHOLD ARE VOTING FOR THIS TONIGHT IN BASICALLY EQUAL NUMBERS. THIS SUMMER, THAT PROPOSAL TO RAISE THE THRESHOLD LOSS 50 7:43. THIS THING IS, RIGHT NOW, ON TRACK TO LAND EARLY IN THE TERRITORY. THAT IS THE NBC NEWS PROJECTION THAT THIS IS GOING TO CARRY, AND YOU CAN SEE BASED ON THE COMPLETED COUNTIES THAT WE HAVE HAD SO FAR, IT COULD BE BY A PRETTY HEALTHY MARGIN. >> STEVE, THERE IS A LOT OF, SHALL I SAY, MISDIRECTION FROM THE PART OF REPUBLICANS IN THE STATE WHO CHANGED SOME AT THE LANGUAGE AND THE AMENDMENT, THE LANGUAGE THAT WILL BE ENSHRINED IN THE STATE CONSTITUTION IS NOT WHAT VOTERS ACTUALLY VOTED ON TONIGHT. I BELIEVE THEY ON DIFFERENT LANGUAGES TO REFER TO DEFEAT THIS IS OF UNBORN CHILD. THERE WAS THIS BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THE EARLY BALLOT ISSUE IN CAUCUS. THE BOW ISSUE ONE NOW IN NOVEMBER. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT HOW ANY OF THE PLATE? DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT PARTS OF THE STATE TO HAVE COME AND STRONGER THAN EXPECTED? >> I THINK THE STORY IS THE CONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE VOTE TO SUMMER AND THE VOTE TONIGHT, AND IT REALLY FEELS LIKE THE FOLKS THIS SUMMER, WHO HAD DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO VOTE FOR THIS, VOTED DOWN THE INITIATIVE THIS SUMMER TO RAISE THE THRESHOLD, AND THE NUMBERS AT THE SAME. THAT IS WHAT I AM STRUCK BY, THE SAME DISCIPLE OF THIS. TAKE WASHINGTON COUNTY RIGHT HERE, WE'VE GOT ALMOST ALL THE VOTE IN WASHINGTON COUNTY, ONE OF THE COUNTIES WHERE ISSUE ONE WILL FAIL, BUT SUPPORTERS OF SHULAN ARE SITTING AT 40 AND A HALF PERCENT IN THIS COUNTY, JUST ABOUT ALL OF THE VOTE IN. THIS SUMMER, SUPPORTERS OF SHE WON, PRESUMABLY VOTED NO THIS SUMMER, BECAUSE THEY DID NOT WANT TO RAISE THE THRESHOLD. NO IN THE SAME COUNTY SUMMER GOT 42. IT REALLY DOES NOT LOOK LIKE WE ARE NOT SEEING SHIFTS OF MORE THAN A POINT OR TWO IN THESE COMPLETED COUNTIES. IT REALLY DOES FEEL LIKE, THE TURNOUT IS HIGHER, IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT IT FEELS LIKE, IN MANY WAYS, IT'S A RE-RUN OF THE SUMMER, AND FOLKS ON BOTH SIDES HAD THE SAME SENSE THEN AS THEY DO KNOW ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE VOTING ON. THEY HAD THEIR MINDS MADE UP IN BOTH CASES. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR FOR EVERYBODY AT HOME HERE, OHIO IS EFFECTIVELY A RED STATE. THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES THAT VOTERS IN A RED STATE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO VOTE AFFIRMATIVELY FOR REPRODUCTIVE CHOICE, THAT IS CORRECT, RIGHT, STEVE? >> THAT IS A KEY POINT GOING FORWARD. AND THIS IS ALSO SEEN AS A MODEL FOR OTHER RED STATES AND SWING STATES IN 2024, FOLKS WHO TRIED TO GET THIS ON THE BALLOT IN SOUTH CAROLINA, FOR INSTANCE, FLORIDA, ARIZONA. THE DIFFERENCE HERE, THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER STATES THAT HAVE PUT ABORTION RIGHTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS IN, BUT BLUE STATES LIKE CALIFORNIA, NEW YORK, VERMONT, MARYLAND, CALIFORNIA, VERMONT, THE TWO THAT HAVE DONE, AND MARYLAND ARE TRYING, THEY SIMPLY IN CALIFORNIA AROUND, SAY THAT IS IN THE STATE CONSTITUTION, THE RIGHT TO AN ABORTION, AND THEY FELT NO PRESSURE OR NEED TO NOT TO ANY KIND OF RESTRICTION ON THE. FOLKS HERE IN OHIO DID FEEL THAT PRESSURE, AND THAT IS WHY THEY ASSESS INSERTED THAT LANGUAGE THAT SAYS RESTRICTIONS CAN BE PLACED BASICALLY AT THE 22ND, 24TH WEEK, THE POINT OF FETAL VIABILITY, AND THAT IS THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT YOU WILL SEE EXPORTED TO THOSE RED STATES, TO THE SWING STATES, WHEN FOLKS TRY TO DO THE BALLOT NEXT YEAR. AGAIN, IN A PLACE LIKE SOUTH CAROLINA, A PLACE LIKE ARIZONA, A PLACE LIKE FLORIDA, I THINK YOU'LL SEE LANGUAGE ALLOWING FOR RESTRICTIONS AT THE POINT OF FETAL VIABILITY. THERE IS A TEST TONIGHT IN A RED STATE LIKE OHIO, GIVING THAT TYPE OF PROVISION FOR A PRESCRIPTION ALONG WITH THE CONSTITUTIONALLY MANDATED RIGHT TO AN ABORTION. IF THAT COUNTS -- WOULD BE POLITICALLY SUCCESSFUL, IT CLEARLY IS IN OHIO, AND I THINK THAT THAT CREATES THE ROADMAP FOR OTHER STATES, FOR SUPPORTERS AT THIS NEXT YEAR. >> WE ARE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF PLAYBOOK DEVELOPMENT THIS EVENING. I WANT TO GET INTO THE SPECIFICS HERE ON ISSUE ONE. IT WAS BEING POSITIONED ON THE RIGHT AS A VOTE OF LATE TERM ABORTION. TO BE CLEAR, IF ONE DOES NOT ALLOW ABORTIONS TO BIRTH ON IT WHEN. WHAT IT DOES DO IS A LAW FOR ABORTIONS AROUND THE 23RD WEEK OF PREGNANCY, AND THEN AFTER THAT, IT ALLOWS FOR THE HEALTH OF THE MOTHER TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. IF YOU WANT ANSWERS THAT IF A DOCTOR BELIEVES IN AN ABORTION, IT'S NECESSARY TO SAFETY LIFE OR HEALTH AT THE MOTHER, EVEN THOUGH IN THE PREGNANCY, THEN THE DOCTOR COULD LEGALLY PERFORM AN ABORTION. NOW, THERE IS A LOT OF DISCUSSION TONIGHT ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IF ISSUE ONE FELT, BECAUSE THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY IN THE OHIO SUPREME COURT COULD HAVE TEMPORARILY REINSTATED A TEMPORARY SIX-WEEK ABORTION BAND