Nirvana Interview 9 24 93 NYC 53min

bands with headbands that's alternative the haircut for man it's like you push it back and you wear a head big head then then it's that one thing you can comb it all over like um standby monitor right here okay that night that comedy routine he grabbed all his hair and he held it on [Music] [Music] i didn't go to college [Music] could you take this home and listen to it and then come back tomorrow at the same time and tell me what to do all right yeah well i work here every day the music [Music] killer beat right now [Music] a lot of the lyrics i thought were just thrown in i mean they could have deeper meaning and i tried to really analyze them but some of these look just seemed like i think if i was strong that's it i'm in college it's target [Music] [Music] marketing [Music] that's just like uh i think they just they want controversy with that [Music] hey potential sails around the middle then it hits you back up all right who are the dogs it was pretty good it's not what i usually listen to but i'd listen to it yeah please everybody bye all right my man it's upside down that's the people you know everybody's got an [ __ ] and everybody's got an opinion [Laughter] what my mom thinks of that record i haven't asked her oh it's nice it's good it's very good it's good it's very good please i'm gonna ask you some mtv questions about these okay i can start anytime look at that pillar fuzzy remember rail yeah these first questions are about that uh about that thing that we just saw three out of eight people we approached said they never heard of nirvana what do you think of that it must be living in a cave they don't read music they have forsaken the age of information they are to be eliminated [Laughter] some of the people who um responded uh to the song rape me said they were offended by it in some way or that they couldn't understand it could you explain the meaning of the song to perhaps clear up i think well we're the cover boys of about 10 different magazines this month and in every one of those magazines we explain it pretty pretty good it's a anti let me repeat that anti-rape song um i don't know i just thought i got tired of people thinking trying to put too much meaning into my lyrics you know it's being too uh not making enough sense you know so i decided uh to be really blunt bold so and i just thought it's kind of a funny just reward for a person who rapes like a guy like a mean [ __ ] who rapes a woman violates her and then he goes into jail and gets raped you know yeah i think i think it's kind of a justice in a way maybe being offended and not understanding it kind of goes hand in hand yeah well that's i mean obviously the only reason they were offended because they obviously thought the song was like this apparently took it as a you know macho you know i don't know in some way i mean i don't exactly know how you would they've been programmed by too many beer commercials yeah i mean i don't really know how you would misunderstand something like that i thought we've made our stance on rape clear within the last year and a half you know yeah but most anyone who knows about us would probably know that we are pretty much anti-rape right at this point you know but yeah i mean that you think that would be clear but i guess these were people who didn't know anything about you or just like listening to a record you know like if that song all of a sudden starts i mean you've always i mean you had trouble with saturday night live right i mean trying to get that song played yeah i mean why is that if it's just a straightforward anti-rape song why are they having a problem with it maybe you shouldn't be talking about it it's like taboo you know daddy's bonking a little stepchild i mean we don't talk about that here no what's controversial about an a an anti-rape song basically i mean because it's the way it's the nature of the the it's a taboo you know taboo subject yeah so what'd you think of this guy this the reaction to the apple from the from the the box populated there seemed to like it didn't they i would have rather taken it to a a rock and roll show or something you know right instead of just like college students just random yeah college students who may or may not listen to rock music yeah yeah because i don't think they listen to our music anyhow so what about the college charts oh yeah weren't we on the college charts college involved into alternative it started with college didn't it what do we know we never went to college what's college like uh girls and frat boy parties that's pretty scary a lot of college parties i know we we we practically went to the evergreen state college i mean i just lived there went there every week and no one studied that's for sure liberal arts college they have a class there which you can follow around the grateful dad and get a credit for it you could work at a record label and get a credit for it yeah yeah they didn't have a football team kind of a liberal college everyone likes to go there is that where that's where uh calvin johnson went yeah like that matt groning went there yeah linda berry bruce pavett modern day pop geniuses bear bernstein oh really yeah paraguay yeah fair one there he's babysitting my child right now he's a good guy when he's got it together he's with his mom oh good oh good now we've noticed actually all the other interns that we had this policy it's been at one point that we weren't going to hire any more interns that went to college because they were completely clueless the more college experience they had you know i mean it's like high school dropouts are the only ones who know how to operate a xerox machine we educated ourselves on the street okay um more mtv questions about your album in utero um what did you what kind of album did you deliberately set out to make in within yoda as opposed to what you did with never mind in reaction to it or in terms of specifically specifically and i guess in terms of the sound of it was there any well we had an idea of of a sound that we've been wanting for a long time you know because of steve albini's production from a lot of other bands like breeders and the pixies and stuff like that you know those those bands you never heard of them um and um it's just it's just that sound that we really like we thought that that sounded so natural and real and it had it has a really beautiful ambiance to it so uh that's why we chose it um there was a review i just read of it that said it sounded like you set out to make the last punk rock record and ended up making what sounded like the first punk rock record we were out to commit commercial suicide yeah what else we're about to do career tea off our a r man we didn't care what was on the record we just put out a raunchy record let's just do that there's others yeah there's other just for controversy sake i just like that person said on on that globally want confidence we want consultation we like stressing everybody out or management and label ourselves we feed off it it's some dysfunction we have man the music business is nothing like the tv business i realized that's good being on saturday night live yesterday yeah being around that oh it's good in my way is it more is tv even worse oh god i couldn't imagine i couldn't imagine working on tv because more people are addicted to tv than they are music yeah that's probably true so much pressure um so were you happy with um i mean you know well the the sound that our that albion he got i mean was it the drum right away yeah as soon as we started the first song that we recorded we listened back to it okay yeah that's his sound that's what we wanted you know which isn't i mean it is his sound it's a trademark sound but it's something that i personally have had in my head ever since i've been in a band ever since we've had this band going i've wanted that kind of a sound because it sounds so natural and real and uh you know technology nowadays 99 of all studios sound too you know digital digital you know yeah that's definitely not steve is it yeah so he used you know a lot of um old analog equipment and a lot of microphones like quadruple the amount of microphones that people normally use we kind of fit into his work ethic too because we had all the songs down almost all the songs down we just went in there and knocked them out because i've heard stories from other bands like if you don't get the song down in three takes it's like forget it don't even do it hard ass cracking his whip how was he to work with did you get along with him yeah that's great on the on a record it says recorded by it doesn't say produced that's ethic he's like mr ethan that's his thing yeah but we gave him two million dollars but money talks how did then did that um that whole controversy arose at the point you know when you're done with the record and you know apparently it was reported widely that he said or i don't know people were just clamoring for something they just they just jumped on it was just speculation and they blew it out of proportion and like for establishment magazine like newsweek to just report on something so sketchy full like a page and a half it was just amazing i couldn't believe it and i started flipping through other stories about the mideast and whatever i'm like god how much credibility do these things have and then sure enough i heard bottom of the birdcage i had i had kind of the same reaction too it's like if something like this could be so wrong then what does it say for the rest of the story is that i mean there was there was some truth i mean there was a little bit of friction in the way there was there was confusion for about a month or so after we brought the tape home we listened to it we couldn't we couldn't tell what was wrong with it there was something wrong it just didn't hit us like our other recordings had and um it just took us a while to figure out that the vocals weren't loud enough it was basically what the problem was the bass was really quiet yeah yeah that's all we did so we fixed it in mastering right just eq'd it a little bit different and remixed two songs right um i i actually um there was um i was talking to the guys in earth overkill they said they're quick with getting when they he produced that um supersonic storybook that one he said um they would distract him and when he turned his back on the console they pushed the vocal faders out yeah there was one time when i walked out of the room and slammed the door yeah and then i came back in and got my way through a star fit for about 10 minutes that's all it took i did that at a hot dog stand really you didn't get the right hot dog too much mustard um setlist apprentice is apparently one of the first songs that you guys have sort of more fully collaborated on yeah in the past is that uh sort of a direction you like to take further in the future hell yes it takes the pressure off of me dave came up with the drum beat and we just built the song off of the drum and the riff yeah he came up the drum beat and then he showed me the riff you know and it was really simple and we thought well this this could work and and i was thinking this kind of bonehead is channel work on it and then and it turned out great and now i'm excited about it because now we can write together even more yeah you know we're really passive-aggressive people we don't like to you know complain to each other very often and that's probably why we survived we should go into therapy all of us sit down with this therapist no way we should just [ __ ] about each other in articles you know separately yeah read the book read the book i know yeah i didn't think about anybody huh you didn't no oh i guess you're right i did a lot of bitching i can't even finish that book i really can't even finish it it's just like oh god i read it last night i learned a lot from that book yeah i learned a lot from almost you know the first two chapters that i should just shut up sometimes is it weird to worry about your life in total it's like it seems like a violation like who needs to know what i was like when i was a child you know and our lives are like hamburgers for uh b dalton and double day they're the fry cooks dishing out the slop it was it i mean in terms of it's a good book yeah i think it's well written very well written and like extremely thorough more so than most band biographies tell me about it and extremely honest you know extremely you guys were extremely open and honest which is do sometimes that hurts yeah do you think um i mean do you hope that maybe it will help defuse some of the sort of negative rumor mongering and things like that was that sort of one of the one of the motivations for doing it in the first place well better have a biography come out with someone that you're cooperating with and someone who just wants to yeah like which is a piece of [ __ ] um yeah but not you know people don't buy rock books very often it's not a very large selling market you know so i don't know majority of people that bought you know probably three million people that bought our record last year only knew about us from maybe watching us on saturday night live and hearing us on the aor radio station you know or seeing the videos yeah yeah oh yeah especially i forgot about that on mtv yeah music television and so i don't know i don't buy rock books myself i'm not that interested in hearing details of my favorite rock bands and uh yeah i mean so for the people that do read it they will get a better view on it i'm sure but at the same time it's going to put i mean there's not going to be the seems to me that it's so thorough and complete and honest that there's not much room for any like rumors to be circulating around anymore because it's like everybody sort of it you know what i mean there'll always be rumors going around about something or another i'm convinced of that yeah i already know um i don't know remember the p kid in high school or grade school that always got there's always a scapegoat i think we're one of those bands we're the p band we got caught jerking off in the back got jerked off what what do you think everybody else does it where do you still crucify that one but not in school what do you think about that sort of you know and what's in your band or your music or your personality that provokes that kind of reaction from we just um we don't think before we speak [Laughter] we're reactionary ourselves we hear something go off right on it maybe we just don't want to play mtv softball or something only fit in so um let's see my favorite was when the whole mtv controversy about when we were playing the mu the awards last year when we couldn't play rape me and so we um we had this interview later on and and dave decided to tell the story about it to mtv via videotape like they're going to show what happened i didn't even catch it until like weeks later oh yeah i guess i probably wouldn't play that okay then my next question on this list of questions here is why did you perform at the new music seminar this year that wasn't supposed to be a part of the new music seminar i don't believe i just wanted to play um so you know so well for all these little bands that up and coming bands that were playing that night wouldn't have an audience we're vicious yeah they're on our [ __ ] turf man we didn't really think of that normally we would think of stuff like that we are kind of considerate in that way and and it kind of bummed me out when i realized that can i smoke on television um but i don't know i guess it was just a way of saying that we're not um dad proof of your existence yeah it was some kind of marketing plan or something yeah you participated in i thought i had a good time myself it was a good show yeah and we played acousic for the first time right and we had one day before we left to to practice our acoustic set which explains why it sucked so bad i think it sucked i think a lot of people thought it sucked i didn't i didn't hate it that much but i didn't what about all those frat boys riding on top of each other in the front row yeah and yelling and talking they said i rocked is that something you're going to keep doing well i don't think we're going to do like this led zeppelin tradition of like sit down after an hour's worth of playing electric and then do acoustic set i think we'll just like go back and forth like play acoustic song play a bunch of rock songs playing that music song right probably easier that way yeah and you're gonna um tour with an another guitarist yeah smear right um what uh why did you decide to do that to edit fourth guitars because um i suffer from i suffer from mental blocks i have short-term memory loss i forget the words too much concentration i'm remembering those three chords and the words and maybe having a little bit of participation with the crowd you know just too much for me so i got a second guitar player that's really good like yeah pat picked up just just like that we've only practiced like six times and we could play a show right now he's got a lot of spirit too even and he's he's really good he's got a lot of finesse and feels what he plays but he's got a lot of spirit even if he's really terrible guitar player just the spirit alone is enough for me and and the punk grad yeah oh yeah that's it yeah he used to be in the germs that's why that's why and we when we were like rehearsing the other night and i think it's like his guitar went out and it was just like i'm spoiled now it doesn't sound as big or thick anymore so that's it's too late does he double rhythm parts or or yeah he basically just does the rhythms yeah i should get him to start playing the solos because i can't remember him well you're getting a toy you'll remember them yeah halfway through halfway through just crank up some weird effects i'll get kelly to give you a quick guitar refresher course she broke a string last night i feel so sorry for her she only plays two when she broke one um okay uh on francis farmer kurt sings i miss the comfort in being sad is this regarding the price you pay for fame no that's a ridiculous question sorry no as that doesn't i don't know that was just a line that i picked out of a poetry book that i that i'd written i mean i mean out of out of some of my poetry yeah what uh so so um oh hi how um let's talk about the new video anton corbin directed it i guess what um how did you decide to hook up with him he's it seems kind of a surprising thing we did a photo session with him and he's such a laid-back guy really talented really admired his work so let's do a video with anton corbin it worked out great yeah yeah what was the funnest and easiest video we've ever done well no i guess in bloom was even easier yeah we had four takes we did four takes had to listen to the song four times it was great this time it took a little bit longer but it was just so easy and he had everything prepared it was all you know in a script did you how much because i know you've been pretty involved in the you know creative input into the videos before did you work the same way this time or was it more was he more of a director type no it was no we came up with well i don't want to take all the credit but i came up with most of the visuals and um what's really kind of sad about is that kevin kerslake who's done our last two videos or three three three um him and i had a lot of conversations over the phone about these visuals that i had for this video and he feels that a lot of them were his one of them were his ideas and they weren't i swear to god i was wearing a bible and now we're we've had a kind of a falling out with him it's just too bad oh okay do you swear that those were your ideas i absolutely do so help you god all right there you have it proof this is actually this is qaddafi's green book it's not the bible no it is the bible why are you carrying around the bible this guy gave it to me on the street today oh yeah i just go talking about an hour because see i have a personal relationship with jesus christ our lord the savior when i die i'm going to heaven for all eternity the streets will be paved with gold if you missed limbs you will grow new ones if you are blind you will see you will have a pontiac in the garage you will all look like feral fossil majors regardless of gender well i was uh i was driving here from ohio and um we're playing like i was listening to just sort of like scanning the radio dial and like the guy kept see it comes to the end of um they were playing i guess they end a heart-shaped box and i guess that was heart shaped box from the new nirvana album in utero before that santana black magic woman and before that the moody blue is weird every time i've heard it on the radio they played the rolling stones four times sometimes in a row because it's a computer but it's a different rolling stone song i understand we played uh we're classic rock already already we don't have our name on the classic rock band in seattle there's this fan that has all these it says pearl jam but i didn't see nirvana on it like this astro van that they take to concerts we saw it at the aerosmith show she didn't have anymore that's great it's just do you um experience ever like kind of a weird sense of dislocation and being juxtaposed with these other things or you know like what it's all entertainment it's all points and ratings and units shifting and what that entails about your audience yeah they're the kind of people that listen to your records which is pretty much what they're fed you know i mean it's like the president of viacom he wants to be the number one entertainment conglomerate not number four not number three but number one it doesn't matter what the quality of the programming is it's just what share the market they control it's really sick i think if they played like daniel johnson between santana and the moody blues that like daniel could sell like two records no you wish yeah sure sure if you can if you can cram garbage like poison down people's throats why not daniel johnson daniel johnson he should be to the 90s with the maharishi yogi the ramona should have had 10 top 10 singles by now you know does and in any sense does this success of your band um make that more of a possibility now i haven't seen it do you think it has had any positive effect on radio or no it's it's the same exact thing as new wave i've said this a million times it's just like you know like punk bands turned into new wave bands becoming more commercially acceptable to be able to get on tv and radio yeah the only alternative bounds that i see on alternative nation are you know that close to bon jovi and so are we you know so we have no reason to be griping about it but i guess it comes naturally it's kind of depressing no it has i mean it's it's sure i mean i think a consciousness an overall consciousness you know being more environmentally aware and stuff like that you know sure i i'm i have nothing against mtv really believe me it's it's or is that bible no it's it's really it's i think it's progressed in the last couple of years sure but not as much as i'd like it to you know i like we we like quick change you know we have a short attention span exactly yeah days don't confuse it but but it is better i mean i you know for me to have people even if i don't like a band's music maybe someone like um eddie better as a person up here that people are sort of you know looking as role models or whatever just because you know even if the music isn't the most progressive thing at least it seems like they're coming from a different exactly yeah yeah that's where it starts you know what you know cruising down sunset boulevard on your harley and bezel and jack daniels i mean what's that about look we're there dude um how did you come up with the title in utero and what is that does it have a specific meaning or is it meant to be it just kind of went in conjunction with the artwork you know just sounded nice the artwork came first yeah and then the title and that was did you come up with the artwork or was it you know yeah i came up with i put together i've been collecting all these little rubber fetuses and things like that i've just always been kind of obsessed with birth and death and stuff like that i'm not um i'm not a death rocker but and i don't wear black but sometimes i like to collect weird things like that and so i arranged them all together and bought a bunch of flowers and had charles peterson take the picture of it and uh i don't know at one point you're going to call it i hate myself and i want to die yeah then it was verse course verse those are fine titles but just like rape me you know the title itself confuses people people would take it too literally they think we're being serious because no one sees the funny side of us hardly you know every picture you know if we take a photo shoot you know we may smile or make goofy faces 90 of the time and if we frown for three seconds they'll use those three second shots you know and it's just i just have noticed this image of us as being a serious you know angry pissed off band right you know it's not that's that you think that's the image that people want to have of you rather than i don't know if they want that or if it's just turned out that way i don't know hey can i have some more decaf coffee there's a cup right there can i have a cup of caffeinated coffee there's a cup right there you can reuse it thanks all right we're going to have a the album is going to be called uh i hate myself i want to die jack of working cover we're resisting you but what you're doing is all right so um what kind of a tour are you guys playing and what kind of places are are you going to try to play i don't know about eight thousand six eight thousand seaters we're gonna play the arizona state fair excited about that yeah we're not sure if people are going to show up to our shows yet so yeah so we're playing it safe i'm going to play at the 4-h tent you know that the uh peter was picketing the gay rodeo and needham claw in washington because of that you know cruelty to animals like this bull busted its leg and it was destroyed they said there are people out there peter people says gays yes rodeo no that's pretty funny i like pita when when will this tour start mid-october mid-october yeah and go through until the end of time oh not really until about the end of december then we'll probably do a european deal and then do all the weirdo shows like australia japan maybe i want to play jerusalem okay where else istanbul constantinople here i come and then um the police did something like that like wow athens would be neat georgia is it weird being able to play like club shows anymore or i mean is that a drag at all no we can still do it yeah unannounced kind of things yeah but they don't seem to have the same vibe anymore really in what way i don't understand why i couldn't figure it out we played it the crocodile remember that show people just like to stand and watch now yeah of course because all the teamsters like it's a different scene it's you know we haven't been in that scene for years for a few years now and it's a different breed of people and its generation has moved up into the ranks of turning 21 and they still seem to have the same spirit as they did in seattle a few years ago do you think it's it's the sir thank you do you think it's the the people have changed or maybe they're just in general people's attitudes towards your band has maybe changed i think they probably didn't want to show you know they probably didn't want to show how much they liked us to be cool i would have done the same thing right yeah that was all right when we were [ __ ] great yeah i was dancing around at the scream show were you really pete dedicated a song to me i was so touched it was really good then these little punk rockers up front and they got in trouble with the bouncers and it's me and mark arms and some other people got a big scuffle throwing ice cubes at the bouncers get the heck out of here and they back down it was neat i love pushing bouncers getting them kicked out of places that's so great does it is it um it feel good to actually be like a working band with with something out and going on tour again you know since it seems like it seems like we were always working well i know but there was a period of what you know just you know bad press and you know that period read about it in the book yeah that's a period all right but that i got my period but that's kind of over it seems like over now and things are yeah because we have a new record out yeah and um and the reaction to it so far seems to be really great that i mean i've seen nothing but really good reviews except newsweek the music oh yeah like they were gonna get a rag i read some good things in newsweek i think that same issue i'll give him that because i remember you talking about you you've talked about a couple times about worried about maybe a kind of a backlash with this record you know people just sort of hating it because they're supposed to rather than responding to it as a record which doesn't seem to be happening so far in any case well at least they're not doing what they're supposed to never mind go on oh no no no do you say something no i thought something though i will never know don't hurt yourself um okay i guess you have like a secret track on the no alternative record which will be out by the time this airs apparently so it's supposed to be okay do we secretly do that's what it says here i don't know you don't what's the all-no alternative is that that's the the aids benefit thing oh yeah alternative stuff it's not a secret anymore i thought we were going to put it out like everybody else i i was told that it was uh why because who else is on the record i i don't as far as i mean lots of people you know soul silence sound garden no record [Laughter] and at that gay rodeo there was this uh person a christian across the street with a big sign that said sodomites do you have aids yet do you believe that jesus what a sickle he's christian that's all right there's no reason to go kick his ass it's you know sodomites anyway i guess part of this is going to air on when they do a special on the no alternative album when it comes out oh so everyone will know about the song then so it's not a secret so we start going on it's just the secret it's not secret on the album it's just we're not it's before the album comes out i don't know no one's supposed to know or something i don't know but there's our manager over there hey john silva come here [Music] but anyway i'm not asking about why he briefed us on everything but that i'm just asking about the uh the song on it what's it what was it from is it an outtake or uh it's not taking i hate myself if i want it no no no verse chorus first first it's a really old song but wait what's it supposed to be called no it's sappy no i don't it's sappy though it's one of those songs that we've been trying to record for everybody's been a band yeah every time we went into the studio we've tried to record the song and it sucked everything's happy right what didn't suck but it just it wasn't yeah it sucked and this time it just almost didn't it was oh yeah it sucked every time it barely sucked this time barely so it's an old song too i'm assuming they just approached you and asked you to contribute something and you said yeah here's a song from the in the 80s you wrote that song in the 80s curry what period were you in third period just before lunch thursday um and i i'm supposed to ask some eight some general aids questions do you think uh contributing to something like this that music can be used as a way to educate people about aids i you know as long as it raises money for like treatment and hospices and things that's what really turned me on that it helped people who were suffering you know as far as information i mean i get so much information i don't even speak for myself i i don't even know what to expect the record isn't going to give you any information right yeah the money will there's so many theories out there so hiv even having anything it's just really hard so i guess the best thing we can do is help people who are suffering from it um i guess chris and in some of the recent interviews he's tried to steer away from political subjects so it's not to be kind of pigeonholed as the political one or yeah there's just no reason to just totally dwell on it because it's just i'm a bass player in a rock and roll band and just go on and on and on about things and you can talk all you want but i think the main things you guys should be doing things and that's not for me that's for everybody you know just you know oh i talk about things in the media yeah it's much beer it's much more effective to to do a benefit for bosnian rape victims and come up with how much money did we make for that you know 55 grand you know i mean that that makes way more of an impact than talking about it and we got this organization called the balkan women's aid fund and maybe you can flash the address and you can send donations too and we're working with women's groups in croatia and austria and hungary and serbia and uh and in bosnia herzegovina so we don't have any like nationalist ties whatsoever because a lot of these women are just caught in the middle of it all women and children so i'm just plugging away at that still haven't given up and take advantage of the media and just mention the address and if people want information they can write and i'll send them information back but just harp away on things over and over again i think people lose interest you know it could be like we are the world we could be on stage celebrating famine in africa you know we are the world there's kids that they're doing that just totally starving to death and it's it's gross you went over to bosnia i went to croatia i wasn't that as far as that i wouldn't do that for bob guccione junior [Music] i don't know how much if we because i'm kind of you know there aren't that many more questions i want to ask on this list are we are we running out of time or how are we doing on time i know keep going but i mean what i'm saying is i'm running out of i mean i don't there's somebody carol's on her way out okay some stuff i just don't want to ask some of this stuff and then just these ticket questions and violence okay you got them on yours yeah i got them online right thanks dave well let's talk about the okay um you did some uh scream shows over the summer yes reunited yes thank you for a while how was that great barely made it back in time for us to perhaps i know i apparently made it back in time for us to practice we just got back together to do some shows just felt like playing and it was fun yeah there's some old stuff that was being released on discord right so just thought we'd do it it was a lot of fun it was good to play you know in smaller places without a hoopla yeah so that was nice you came back in shape on the drum came back i was in shape got my chops down tape the symbols tape the cymbals yeah yeah we make him tape the symbols in practice now it kills our ears really and we turn down in practice and guess what you can hear the vocals now wasn't that amazing it's not like that's too loud god damn it um okay and kurt you uh you produced the melvin's new album i produced a few songs okay i think like six tracks i guess you can call it producing i really don't know what that term means what did it entail for you a lot of sleeping on the couch waiting for them to write songs it worked out pretty good though i mean i had a few kind of stupid ideas like i got a bunch of plywood and put it down on the floor for an ambience and used a lot of microphones tried to steal some of albinis techniques and um uh what else did we do we enclosed buzz's cabinet into a box didn't make a bit of difference i got more stuff like that yeah but but you know i like the record now now that i've heard it it's finished yeah i just saw the video the other day i hope it's played on this station because it's really funny i'm feeding back sorry um so yeah and now i'm supposed to ask you about um this is these are other special sections they're doing this one um this is a spot that's going to be on what uh uh our uh bands charge ticket prices basically ah we haven't discussed first question is what what do you think of artists who do charge anywhere between 50 to 75 dollars for tickets who charges that much money who does that how much do we charge a ticket john yeah but that's like a burlesque show that's a big production 27 12. you can speak is that 12 or 21. 17 to 18 bucks a ticket wow madonna charge is 50 apparently 50 to 75. madonna wears madonna wears fur too did you know that we were talking about boy we should charge 25 and really milk it really take them for all they got they want to come let's see how bad they really want to see the band play so 17 we charge 17 so what guzzi's playing tonight they're charging five so how does that make you feel weak exploited see they go from five to six to seven to eight pretty soon it's all over man was inflation what with the ticketmaster charge and um so what do you think of the price you charge for your concert 17 18. what do we think of it i guess we make enough money god if we had to pay for every show we played on tour never mind i don't know production costs are so astronomical it's amazing you got to pay all these people and the band always gets it in the end the band has to pay for everything that's we make the least amount of money how much do you see of the this says 30 odd dollars you charge for one ticket but let's say 17 or 18 dollars you pay you charge for one ticket john we don't even know 25 is that after your cost and then and then cool so say if it's twenty dollars we see five dollars and twenty dollars and that's you know then you have to pay for your the cost of touring with that interest um okay that's that no we make that five dollars that's in our pocket clear right no yeah 25 you work on about 25 net oh no okay then you have to split it three ways so if there's 8 000 people you made 10 grand that night i didn't go to college that's not bad money 10 grand a night gee that's pretty good let's play more i never think about that let's go out there and play but we're not rich or anything wow that's pretty good money i'm gonna go out and buy something today i feel guilty about it chiefness hasn't spread me okay the next special section is on violence we're doing a special on violence i guess violence is bad wait till we don't want to talk you know we just want people to come to our shows and have a good time i mean all these issues and stuff i don't want to talk about it okay i don't care do you think teen violence is a big problem in today's society wow don't they have metal detectors at school for guns now no it's not like what do you mean though ronnie coker and joe stutter gonna have a fight after school let's go fight now it's like a shoot out in the hall i've got some mace right here i'll get that this is my security guard you know this is my bodyguard axle rose has 10 big huge 400 pound guys pepper juice do you carry a gun what kind and why m16 all the time colt 45 i swear i don't have a gun i keep it in my teepee when we go out in the woods and sleep do you yeah you never know what's going to happen out there do you think that images of guns and violence and media and popular culture have contributed to the rise in violence yeah i think so i think so i think sir makes a lot standing in front of his exotic car collection holding two handguns and sending out a message like hey look at all these cars look at all this jewelry look at all these guns cool daddy-o or whatever and i think that was really responsible of him to do that do you think there's nothing romantic about guns they're a tool and they're in this world in this country things have just degenerated so much it's just like you have to protect yourself because there's a lot of jerks out there when i went to the gun shop to buy the guns you should have seen the people in there buying this this guy was looking at this i guess hate to judge people by their appearance but i mean there were some gang bangers in there just swooning over these nine millimeters oh man check that out they're going crazy it's like god i was in there ernie and i were in there just like whoa what are we doing in here but we felt like we had a duty to be in there and protect our families and homes and stuff and these guys were it was just a novelty to them like yeah you got to have a gun you know it's scary that kind of mentality you know do you think that um therefore that like artists or create people should have more of a responsibility to to not glorify violence in their work or is there some i mean well if you have any common sense you won't glorify violence or you won't you know what nothing wrong with raising the issue of violence but glorifying it yeah they're they're just their irresponsibilities just like i don't know just the lack of lack of responsibility they don't really think about it too much they're just like they're wrapped up in that whole romanticism of guns and hey it's cool you know maybe it's a male thing you know the ultimate empowerment you know ultimate man thing gun i have to admit it really is kind of fun to shoot guns when we go out to the shooting range it's an enjoyable sport yeah i like to do it yeah it's cool it's fun i mean and it's a responsibility to know your gun too you just shouldn't have it and you should really oh yeah if you buy a gun to protect yourself and and you don't know how to shoot it you don't practice you're not going to you're not going to hit the person if they're this close to you yeah yeah and another thing it's like i'm not a member of the nra i don't want to join the nra i don't agree with the nra a lot of things nre says you know i just have my own reasons right i'm done you know all right i think europe oh yeah i got to write that out i haven't even looked at it yet also some promos for one an alternative nation

Channel: KC Musics Official

Views: 164,784

Keywords: kurt cobain, nirvana, dave grohl

Id: 2FOBYV2Y5d0

Length: 53min 40sec (3220 seconds)

Published: Sun May 09 2021