Nardwuar vs. J. Cole (2021)

dan vegas [Music] okay thanks again for you thanks for remembering me too i appreciate that you know yeah okay yeah see ya bye see ya [Music] here we are at windmark studios waiting for jake oh [Music] sidewalk [Music] who are you jermaine lamarco j cole welcome to winmark studios thank you in santa monica beautiful you've been here before i i have could you tell us a bit about you recording at windmark yeah well uh this studio um which is now on i don't know if i should be putting this business out there so i'm not gonna say um but i recorded a song off of forest hill drop today it's the summer anniversary seventh anniversary of forest hills drive i recorded the song gomd in that room right over there in 2014. that's i'm just realizing that right now this is on some like synchronization guide type level that's crazy so yeah uh that beat is incredible how did you create that beat thank you man i appreciate that i did that beat in that room it was me uh i i had um there was a play august wilson and the play was maybe it was the branton marcellus brandon marcellus is did the soundtrack for a movie that was based off a play of august wilson play i don't know the name it was the piano or something it was incredible play that my mom took me to see if fayetteville north carolina um so i heard that at the play in fayetteville i heard them uh i heard them singing this song in the play at the table it was like and i talked about going to my birthday he was singing to his girl alberta saying when he gets off the chain gang uh he might not want to like i might not want you when i get back or whatever but i heard him singing the song i'm like oh my god i went to youtube tried to like scour the globe for this sample that i had heard of this play and luckily bran for marcellus had did the the soundtrack for the movie they created for for this place so took that loop looped it up you know what i mean chopped it up put the drums on it in that room right there my man ron gilmore pulled up put the keys on it i came back the next day wrote it in that room right there it was a lot of pressure because i knew the beat was hard so i was like yo i gotta really you know what i mean i gotta take a day come back so i wrote it in that room right there and we dropped that album seven years ago today can you believe that and to welcome you back to windmark i have a gift for you right here and it's in this bag right here okay this is for j cole you always bring amazing gifts this is a turntable a j dilla turntable on the table this is recipes j dilla the god the goat this is fire thank you sir i appreciate that 33 45 and 78 it also plays 78 wow didn't even know that was a thing you sampled j dilla i sampled j dilla probably many times in my life which one are you talking about the erica badou sample yeah man one of the greatest beats of all time that i just lazily you know i mean looped up put some extra little drums on and and used it as the intro for friday night lights and jay dilla was also assembled by loot loot from dreamville yeah legendary luke shout out luke charlotte in the building luke incredible incredible emcee dreamville win here yes sir i thought this turntable will be good for you going to wreck it still summon is that song that you're talking about yeah i got background vocals on that song little known effect i thought it's amazing this turntable that you can take to record stores to find records or to listen to them facts 100 and you were jay co and jaco i have another gift for you right here the gerald wilson orchestra does it bring back any memories um i'm assuming this is something that i sample but i'm to tell you the truth narwhal at this point in my life applying pressure he didn't this is applying pressure no i actually isn't because i couldn't but gerald wilson record from 1966 with gatefold a gatefold record okay well i'm going to tell you the truth i reached a point in my career where like i can't keep up with everything that i'm sampling when i was a kid and when i was in my 20s i could do that now it's just it's information overload so yeah but thank you for this i appreciate that what can i see about applying pressure though um i can say the rapping is immaculate the beat is hard um and it's off of the off season i could say those i can say those things also first choice i have another gift for you right here is this uh is this middle child middle child t-minus who produced it we met earlier somewhere here somewhere in the building can we find him we can possibly if he walks by yeah we can find him if he yelled his name would he come t-minus let's see the power of jaco if you just yell his name t-minus keep going k cool team t t minus oh this is amazing did you hear that yes will he come over here he just happened to be here right now this is incredible well please come forward here t-minus uh does this bring any bells for you first choice armed and extremely dangerous yeah it looks looks kind of familiar what do you know about this well it's a sample that we used uh a couple years ago back in uh with north carolina how did that beat come about bro what was happening [ __ ] honestly bro you you found it really yeah well we were on what on track live or something it was a chocolate yeah yeah you went through samples on tracklib we heard the loop because track label will let you like listen to the stems so if you listen to the song you won't actually hear that sample you know what i mean it's it's because they gave us the stems so we heard that that for track live it's a big drop for them we need all the money checklist t-minus j cole narwhal we need a percentage of your [ __ ] for just saying it right now i was curious t-minus what can you say about j cole i mean [ __ ] there's a lot to say don't do it don't tell him yeah he's a he's a great dude man i mean i don't like people talking about me as you know me i'm right here you know me what can you say j cole about t-minus that i can do one of the goldest of the goat producers of our generation hits classics radio singles club singles drake kendrick cole and how low can you go by ludacris more important than everything which was really as yeah yeah it's funny it's funny because you know when i first met cole his engineer was saying that they would use hello as like a like a mixing reference or some [ __ ] like to test out the speakers yeah yeah so i mean every time mezz is about to mix an album or mix a song he uses like for sonics he uses how low can you go as like a sonic reference and dr dre and things like that so every time i'm about to mix i hear a mess i'm like why are you playing how low can you go he's like yo the sonics are incredible so after i start working with this guy we just started talking about his history and stuff and i realized one of his first big songs was how low can you go ludacris i know crazy 50 billion copies but yo back back to this [ __ ] though it's crazy because that's a gift that's a gift actually for j cole but also for gift this right now to team i'm getting can i re-gift i'm going to register this a season for re-gifting i'm going to re-gift this classic album that holds a very in credible piece of our history sir i'm gifting this to you i appreciate it bro thank you man i appreciate you and he appreciates you through me 100 canadian yo we're canadians man man so we should have sex come on we should have led with that narwhal that should have been the first thing we said middle child first choice t-minus and do-do-do-do like i say what you don't know the phrase [Music] kanye andre 3000. hey cole the people at the studio [ __ ] are acting you know i mean they're real hollywood right now like they don't want to come in jay lamar cole cole also damon lillard you sample dame i did sample damien lilly yeah the goat basket the goat of all time basketball playing rapper for sure quote j cole these insane raps should stay wrapped in uh oh these insane raps just stay wrapped in a straight jacket oh i was like 15. my boy is maybe 17. that's a how do you know about that one well you're j cole we have to know it i love it yeah thank you what can you say about that that era like cannibus the therapist cannabis uh huge inspiration on on my teenage years of rapping just ferocious barred up lyrical punch lines any cipher any gathering of three or more people that want to rap i'm destroying it that was my whole mo that was my forte and cannabis was a big part of that eminem was a big part of that race 59 was a big part of that big l was a big part of that you feel me bomb shelter he named you the therapist they it was a duo two rappers one was a rapper and producer from fayetteville north carolina i wouldn't be here if it wasn't for them because they were from my city and they made music to me that sounded just as good as outcast or red man method man you know me as the first time i heard somebody from the city doing quality type music that i that i that was similar to what i listened to so they had the coolest rap names i ever heard nervous wreck was one of them and the other one was filthy rich they spelled them all cool you know what i mean and i was just like damn i need a rap name like that so you know they offered to help me find a rap name you know what i mean and one day they called me up and they was like yo we got one for you and i was all excited i thought my [ __ ] was gonna be just as far as theirs and i was like what is it and it was like it's therapist and my heart said no but my admiration and love for them and the feeling of these guys gave me a name was like oh that's dope you know what i mean so i kept that name um for about you know maybe four or five years until i got to college and realized i'm not trying to go by no [ __ ] haley you know it just feels like a wrestler or something you know what i mean but i will say it is a practical joke from god like a wink from god because in my life and now as an adult man i realize that i play that role for a lot of people and and willingly and and lovingly i love to listen to people talk i love to ask them questions that may you know allow them to open up a part in themselves that maybe they hadn't thought about before access before so ironically i have become the therapist without that rap name you feel me and that's a blessing to me also your studio is it called the shelter yeah the shelter which actually we just closed it down we it gave us amazing we should have doc we should have had you do a documentary on this [ __ ] or something but um it gave us about six amazing years of dreamville family and community in north carolina and you know that's the place where you know before we signed earth gang and jit we all were there posted up they were living omen came through we were living we were cooking cars came through we were living we were cooking luke ari spent a lot of time there herring elite cooking up classics uh shea butter baby i think either that or or yeah i think it was shea butter baby a lot of that stuff was done in in the shelter um just legendary moments in the shelter which is all that name of that studio was just paying homage to bomb shelter for fayetteville north carolina yeah cole quote it's no time to chill i'm trying to get meals millions of dollars was on my mind at that time i was dead broke there was no time to relax go hang out party no i was broke i needed millions i saw even when i had negative money in my account which was very often i saw millions in my future i wanted safety comfort security ease no more stress tired of watching people stress tired of watching people [ __ ] scrape and pawn [ __ ] just to make pay this and you know what i mean i was tired of that [ __ ] tired of being at myself so that was my theme you know what i mean at that time no time to chill i'm trying to get milk i was hoping though hope mill road hope mills road in fayetteville north carolina what do you know about hope mills road vic striving oh vicks driving well i don't think vick's driving is on hope mills road however vick's driving is a legendary legendary spot in uh food spot in fayetteville north carolina unfortunately uh you know as as is the case in lots of places in america with gentrification they've tore this [ __ ] down and vixx is no longer uh with us in the original location hopefully it'll pop back somewhere else the hope mill tigers southview tigers there's a high school in fayetteville north carolina it's really in hope mills like in the outskirts of fayetteville um shout out my boy cedric who's in the other room who went to south view high school the southview tigers you know what i mean that was one of our rivals in high school shout out to south view i had a little cutie that went there a couple little cuties that went to south view you know i mean it was a very good very good school i kind of went there i was in their yearbook this is how connected i was to southview on accident somehow i was in the yearbook my senior year everybody know for salvia was calling me like yo bro how you in our yearbook it was a mistake once again god be winking at you the same picture that's in my high school yearbook is in south view high school's high school uh yearbook i never went there but i was there so much and i had a lot of ties and love for people that went to south view the skate zone oh duh skate zone uh one of the only spots or the only spot in fayetteville that had hip-hop shows um in fayetteville north carolina it was a skate skate shop you know i mean a little skate park um and bomb shelter i was telling you about earlier the first time i met them in person after like hitting them online like yo i'm telling you i'm nice i'm 14. i'm the nicest i'm nicer than [ __ ] is 19 years old y'all got to let me boom boom let's make some music they invited me to their show at the dusk skate zone i went i had to borrow my man cedric shoes because i have nothing fresh he let me wear his brand new black ivor since it was so crazy this time when you got love for people they do [ __ ] like that you know me when they got love for you they let you borrow their clothes and he just got him that's very selfless you know i mean i have [ __ ] fresh so my [ __ ] let me rock his brand new shoes because there was a chance that i might get on stage i went to dusk skate zone and they had a part of their show where they invited yo all the mc's just in the crowd if you want to get up and rock come up i'm 14. i'm the youngest dude in there me and said everybody else 19 20 24 whatever i get on stage as a 14 year old scrawny skinny i sounded like a girl my voice was high pitched i was nervous as hell but as soon as they passed me the microphone i destroyed that [ __ ] i was the best on the stage with all these older dudes and that's when dudes from bombshells it was like he wasn't lying he really got it like that and we started working and they became my mentors and the skate zone j cole dj gilbert baez baze gil dj gilbert bass is a fayetteville legend he i really you know him as a dj but he's really like a new in my era he's a newscaster like you know when you wake up in the morning and it's you know channel whatever and there's a guy covering like uh what happened on cliffdale road or boom boom that was gilbert bay's but he was also dj's sunday nights at the skating rink um where i worked and it was called like super soul sundays and all the fly groovy cool older black folks would come out and hear their music from the 80s you know what i mean from the 70s and gilbert bays you know what i mean the og legend would be the one that's you know the maestro of the night for all of these beautiful people that were skating around and doing tricks and [ __ ] and holding hands and kissing each other while they skated them some was a real movie it was beautiful for me to see growing up shout out to gilbert baze now speaking of legends j cole i have a gift for you here of a guy that you brought out you brought out petey well i you know i brought him out of the show but he brought carolina out you know what i mean this man put north carolina on the map you know what i mean at a time when we probably had no national recognition he gave us an anthem that was still rock to this day it's called raise up but you probably know it as north carolina come on and razor take your shirt off around your head like a helicopter you know what i mean true legend carolina legend we grateful for this man right here and uh and and extreme talent like extreme talent we was with him one night in new york randomly we ran into him and we all ended up going out and this [ __ ] just kicked the verse randomly like and it was the coldest [ __ ] i ever heard in my life and i'm like oh my god petey pablo like you know what i mean like immense talent right now if you need a verse from him he gonna [ __ ] destroy that [ __ ] so shout out to petey pablo and chico here we are at windmark studios studios eeb can you call out the name eve i can call e but i i did just get off the phone with him i think he's out getting food you a legendary you know he needs to be here he should be here eve you should be ashamed it's nardwar right here well i have a gift for you and eve right here some allen iverson jewels 40 bars this is important to you guys wasn't it it's crazy this was this was a this is a huge moment in in uh in rap history in nba history yo he's saying the wildest [ __ ] on here you know what i mean to think that that uh the al never came out either yeah oh wait this is the fourth yeah this is just the single i'll never came out yeah but the single came out and they were like now you can't put this [ __ ] album out he was saying like he was talking like dmx or some [ __ ] he was saying raw as [ __ ] you know i mean this was like one step too far to for the nba when ai dropped this however i can't say he actually had bars you know what i mean i i still remember this to this day shout out to ai and it's gone instrumental in there as well and i was wondering eeb beat selection would that help with eb what do you mean like could he listen to the instrumental and say hey cool go after this yeah you could do that you could tell me right now to go write a verse to aisr and i would be challenged i would have to go do it what's the importance of tuesdays and thursdays between 12 and 1 30 with you and eve whoa that's where me and eve used to battle each other on the basketball court uh freshman year college me and eve knew each other like you know what i mean how you know somebody on campus could we play ball together we i see them walking around like on the strip but you know i really wasn't rocking with eve he looked like fabulous he dressed like fabulous he wore his hats like fabulous and his jerseys i thought who's this guy trying to be fabulous you know what i mean he probably looked at me like yo who's this country carolina dude to think he knights on a basketball court so we were like rivals on the court we had a lot of good games against each other but me and eve got tight tight tight later on in college thanks to ted right didn't ted help well ted ted is a and you know the fact that you're shouting out right now it's crazy shout out to shot good my boy shot good uh yeah ted ted was somebody that i was cool with on the court me and ted always had like a good rapport you know i mean when we played with each other but ted is eve's man a hundred grand you know what i mean like they went to school together middle school you know what i mean and knew each other all through high school and shout out to ted that's that's that's my brother i have another gift for you and eb an original harlem globetrotters 45 from 1949. wow does this have the uh of course wow but from 1949. sweet georgia brown from 1949 wow how'd you get this well you were jay cole we have to get you something i have to get this oh thank you this is amazing i was curious about basketball but you were also a player for the women's team a practice player yeah that lasted about a day um i don't know i don't remember how that came about but uh i think they saw me playing in uh like wreck every day the tuesdays and thursdays and whenever we play like pick up basketball and they're like hey we need could you come and like you know play like basically be a somebody that plays against the women's team like but i think i did it for a day and i'm like nah i can't do this like i got [ __ ] to do but shout out to the women's team it was nice you know me but i just didn't have the time to commit to that cool you really appreciate the old school like shout out to pd etc and that documentary that you checked out big fun big fun in the big town in the big town which was a fire hip-hop documentary from 1986 dutch yeah i watched this a few years ago that was that was a nice really nice watch it was like these dutch guys that came over here into harlem they were interviewing like like uh dougie fresh you know what i mean maybe like bismarck key that was that's a real good watch go to youtube and watch that big big fun in a big town right and it's the perspective of these white dutch dudes who were coming to capture the hip-hop phenomenon right and they and they went and pulled up on these legendary rappers who are the trailblazers of what we're doing right now and it was just really great insight you know what i mean if you got time to go on youtube and watch that highly recommend and one of the people that they interviewed and i have a gift for you j cole right here was schooly d the legend schooly d schooly d so i'm not a hip hop historian don't claim to be but from what i know about school ed a lot of people say he had like the first gangster rap record right like uh yes skin here it is psk park side killers a park slope killer some they was killers they was killing [ __ ] in p.s it was ps killers and uh so yeah so a lot of people say he had the first gangster record you know what i mean uh i'm not a historian so i'm gonna just run with that you know maybe somebody had one before him you know i mean but i don't know they say that's what they say so shout out to schoolyd you know i mean you you and you're lenny first of all you gave us a classic all-time record you know what i mean but you influence a lot of people and in your lineage we have uh you know a ton of classic records that may have caused a lot of damage to our community that's for debate you know what i mean but that's not your fault brother you're just creating your art and we appreciate your art thank you you know me and in this record check out the booklet and a sticker if you could pull it out right there there's some history so you can read some history and check out the booklet as well and on the booklet at the very bottom we see a tr909 okay what do you know about tr cause i have a little story about the tr 909 but please go ahead well the tr 909 every day when i was 14 years old i used to beg my mom to uh get me a beat machine right um why because i noticed that with bomb shelter right who i told you about earlier i really wanted them to give me beats right because they had beats and i didn't know how to make beats but once i got with them i realized they're never going to give me their best beats right they're going to keep the best beats for themselves they're not going to give it to me they're artists on their own so i realized i got to make my own [ __ ] because they nev they're never going to give me their best so i asked my mom every day for a beat machine i didn't know even no [ __ ] about beat machines so every day we would stop it make fatter music on it's not yakking maybe it's like uh it turned yeah it can turns into [ __ ] i'd have been gone too long i don't even know what the hell it turns into not mcpherson church turn some other [ __ ] right now i'm efficient church i don't even [ __ ] know but it was mcfadden music right across from everest music you know what i mean but we would go to mcfadden music and they had beat machines in there and i ain't no [ __ ] but i used to every day on the way home from school because i went to 71st middle across town and the bus didn't come to me i would have my mom take me to this mcfadden music so she could see how much i really wanted his beat machine and i would play with was the what i thought was the beat machine i wanted the tr 909 i used to play with this [ __ ] while i was in there you know what i mean but what i realized was that wasn't for me nervous rec helped me see that what i really wanted was asr x pro now most people that use the asr you know what i mean they use the asr 10 with the keyboard beggars can't be choosers the only thing they had in mcfadden music was this red asr x pro and [ __ ] my mom was down she put that [ __ ] on layaway she paid that [ __ ] off for a whole year and um and took it out and i had my asr x pro steely dan steely dan was it was a cd you know what i mean or they had cds that my mom had down your streets tire straights damn bro yeah hell yeah i must have said this in some interviews long ago and my man is he's a [ __ ] scholar he does his research these are cds that my mom had my mom hella eclectic she'll go from mary j blige to eric clapton to dire straits who i didn't even know existed until i started [ __ ] scanning through her cd collection looking for samples you know what i mean so shout out to my mom for having amazing taste of music and and um yeah facts well speaking of samples jayco i wanted to give you another gift right here the legendary ultimate breaks and beats compilation this is a very very rare uh and and secretive uh record right here that i only discovered recently maybe it wasn't so rare in the 90s but you know it's harder to find as you get a little older i've never seen the physical record so this is fire um but hella fire breaks on him you know what i mean like um donald byrd yeah donald byrd but see the names i don't think the name though that's the thing that's the part right like 64. actually 66 to 84 drum brakes a lot of drum brakes mad drum brakes but it's vague about where the initial source is right so i've sampled something off of here and there was like a there was a there was a conflict of who said they owned it you know i mean so i feel like i ended up paying two people because there was like conflict on you know who they said i owned it but regardless if you don't mind sample clearance issues fire classic uh legendary brakes are here explosive dr dre explosive uh you hit them drums and explosives comes from here dre might have replayed him you know what i mean i'm not sure but the the the essence of that he might have said with the ring i don't know but but it's from here dr dre explosive you know i mean jayco and to honor breaks and beats the ultimate breaks and beats i have a gift for you right here they made an ultimate breaks and beats doll they made a doll that's fire was this a top seller when it dropped it just came out it's actually a doll oh that's crazy i know i know nowadays a doll this is a new thing it's a brand new doll impressive well thank you for this thank you for this man i never thought i'd have one of these yeah it's like an incredible series and now they have a doll it's incredible that they did this i didn't know that they were so getting back so lit you know what i mean so that must mean more people are finding out about this you know i mean if they didn't already know about it before that's dope and also j cole i have another gift for you right here it's double d and steinski the history of hip-hop from 1985 basically the history of sampling something possibly that you could listen to is this the one that has like like is this actual talking on here or is it mad sounds like all the sounds i've heard about this i've heard the history of sampling pretty much yeah that's fire thank you for this i appreciate that man thank you i'll get into this i thought perhaps something to sample on the turntable on the j dilla rest in peace to the goat the j dilla turntable i appreciate that man thank you you ble you always bless me with some gifts i appreciate that thank you j cole prince ebay i was gonna say ebay but i'm like no way he's gonna say ebay like prince ebay okay brandon costner kenneth what's kenny's last name castina gastano i think or something like that patriots yeah shout out to the patriots basketball club yeah what was it like playing with prince fire in africa he's a monster prince is a monster shout out university of texas that was my teammate you know me my first professional teammate uh prince brandon costner you know what i mean kenny these are my og's shout out to everybody on that squad though you know what i mean everybody i really rock what you are i noticed you were number 15 the same as high school what's the deal with 15 the first uh jersey i ever owned like fly looking jersey was a carolina unc jersey that my cousin gave me and it was the number 15. um and this was before vince carter so i don't know how i had this jersey but then vince carter uh was on was on carolina and he wore number 15. so you know what i mean like i'm not gonna say it's based on vince carter but i had the 15 carolina jersey and vince carter immortalize it so it was always my favorite number thank you omar thank you omar omar he trained you didn't he oh 100 yeah yeah yeah uh omar is the reason why i got out there on more reasons for more on more levels than one you know i mean we worked out this morning omar should be here i think he's with eve right now if omar he's not here he's not here he's not here you almost dunked in the nba all-star game i did in the celebrity game it wasn't almost i did it was a real dunk there's got to go back and watch it's a real two-handed alley-oop from kevin hart but during actually maybe when you were sitting on the ground you're wearing a huge sweater oh you're talking about that all-star game when i was older i almost were you wearing what were you wearing first was i wearing a hoodie a tie-dye hoodie that was fire i was wearing some windbreaker type pants what type of shoes uh there was some pumas um i think they were the clyde the walk clydes i think i don't even [ __ ] know what it was maybe the ralph sampsons i'm not sure but i was wearing some pumas though you know what i mean yeah you almost dunked but didn't quite yeah but yeah i almost i almost made it you know what i mean was it the clothing i think it was the fact that i wasn't i didn't stretch i wasn't warm i was in some uh what was i wearing was i was was i wearing was i wearing some tennis shoes yeah i was once the tennis shoe i don't know no you know what it really was if you go watch the replay the ball i didn't have a good grip on the ball so i'm up high enough but you see if you watch it in slow-mo at the last second the ball kind of moves i didn't you gotta when you playing basketball y'all had that wide grip that michael jordan grip on the [ __ ] basketball and i didn't have that and i missed it and you are jayco winding up here jayco we are here at winmark recording stu dio deals previously i talked to you in 2010 at fortune sound club in vancouver british columbia canada i remember that well thanks so much jay cool keep on rocking in the free world and do do do yeah i was waiting on that one baby not one he's just gonna stand there for like 20 minutes it's great i want to see when it cuts off like that's whatever like when does it cut off it almost didn't happen but you recognized me like you were walking up the stairs hey nerd war but the interview almost didn't happen why why didn't why did it almost not happen i'm not sure but thank you for recognizing me no problem did somebody somebody was supposed to set it up and maybe the word didn't get to me we're just waiting there patiently but then you saw me and then the interview happened thank you oh you're nardwar we have to do interviews with you and i was thinking looking back at that interview you loved the no id record so i thought i would give you a no id record what can you say about the no id record say uh shout out to dion we've talked about this how he put a how he put an album out i think that's pretty legendary you know i mean a phenomenal legendary uh highly touted and highly uh accomplished legend in this hip-hop production game and even beyond and he has a rap album that you didn't know about and i didn't know about until i was working with him and he told me about this album he did um and yeah and he told me you know about the budget and and shout out to that budget he got from whatever label this was what labor was this relativity shout out to relativity that's the single that's the single okay okay dope shout out to dion man we got you thank you for this how did you j cole discover me like how did you recognize me in 2010 think the first time i ever saw you which is probably a lot of people from from my generation was that interview you did with jay-z where pharrell apparently set it up and i thought that [ __ ] was so cool i'm like who the [ __ ] is this guy right here you know me like um who like who are you who and then jay gives this long-ass answer you know what i mean you're like no you're jay-z he's like oh you wanted my name oh yeah yes my name is jay-z who are you who am i i'm a young man from aussie projects who uh really made um the thing that that thing that they say about the american dream come true because i'm not supposed to be here speaking to you you know there's a lot of people that come from where i come there's a lot of skilled people who come from where i come who are who are not here right now yeah you are jay-z oh i thought you meant like who am i i thought you would i thought it was a deeper question now that my name is jay-z yes yeah that's the first time i had saw you and of course as all people who see you this maybe this is somebody's first time seeing you right now and they're gonna go who the [ __ ] is that guy this is really cool and then they're gonna do like i did and dive into all your old [ __ ] i've seen you sitting you know i mean with kurt cobain on the floor and backstage of a show i've done my youtube dive you know i mean you're a legend so we have to do that you know man we appreciate the work you've done on documenting this culture and this music that we love but also diving into the nooks and crannies of all the stories that i wouldn't even [ __ ] think of anybody would ask but i'm so grateful to talk about it because i don't ever get to talk about [ __ ] mcfadden music you know me in fayetteville north carolina i never thought that i would say that out loud you talked about south view high school you know what i mean like we used to play these boys and really get them work you know what i mean shout out tyrone davis he dunked on these [ __ ] so crazy we all went so there was that our it wasn't terry sanford tyrone cockback had the whole place erupted against south view high school and you brought them up you know what i mean i get a chance to talk about it right now because of the work you do i appreciate that well thank you so much for the kind words i really appreciate it j cole it's really inspiring i really appreciate that thank you we need you man narwhal we need more narwhal interviews you know what i mean my man just said yo i haven't seen a narwhal interview in a while this is going to be pretty big and i hope that's the case we need to see more nardwar interviews well winding up here lastly j cole earth gang earth gang earth gang one word atlanta georgia the truth the future are they here earth gang earth gang is here can we try should we go look should i grab them maybe you could yell earth gang yo can y'all open that door such an incredible lineup on dreamville r-e-g-i boss yes omen loot earth gang we said jid kaz and a lot are here at the studio bass it's winding up here jayco what do we do we're yelling people's names in the hopes that they come in here no eve though yeah it's [ __ ] e man i know jay-z or kanye i call him he might be in the building yeah jay-z and kanye acting real and andre earth gang-r so maybe we'll try again yeah yeah ladies and gentlemen first off j cole could you please introduce who's in the studio right now well in this room right now we have legendary chicago mc dreamville legend omen right here ladies and gentlemen what's good norway and who do we have right there well we have atlanta's own which side west you know it's a lot you see i got that right though that's how much i rock with these [ __ ] west side big west side energy we have atlanta's own futuristic black excellence art experimentations no limits on what's possible as a creative earth game yeah exactly what he said all those things hey y'all and earth gang how did earth gang meet j cole was it through absol uh yeah okay i see you doing that thing you'll be doing yeah that's that he's starting it up he's turning it up yeah what happened uh he was on tour with seoul uh cole pulled up i remember we was in the green room he peed his head and he was like yo cold upstairs he was like who called upstairs i was like oh that's cool we went upstairs and nicole was upstairs and we took a picture with him and she wanted to end it while he was talking coach was like yo we all be recording that we was like [ __ ] he was like well if y'all want y'all to pull up and it was simple is that and like that was without even he said oh y'all [ __ ] dreams and now he was like y'all gonna pull up and record so yeah yeah yeah and even before that shout out to tanji tanji sent me uh he was just like yo here's some people i thought you might like and earth gang was one of the artists it's like 2013 or something and um he sent me the link i i checked their [ __ ] out i was like damn they fired but i wasn't in a position to like reach out dreamville we enough off the ground we still you know what i mean in the infancy phases and it worked out shout out to ab soul boss was on that tour i came to see him i seen them and then and then who was out there with them jib was on stage with them you know what i mean like hyping them and he spit a verse and i was like all these [ __ ] is raw yeah thanks jill it was our roommate slash co-artist with us at the time and we just you know said he was all homies like man i ain't gonna go into it without my dog so we all just went i will say this this ain't the earth game interview like we gonna talk they need their own interview oman needs his own interview just quickly here i was wondering oman how did you meet earth gang i met her gang through greenville affiliation never one of the few actually since they came on a little later um i met them i want to say something shelter bro yeah first exactly i can think of you like walking through the shelter i'll tell them how legend y'all know shelter is a wrap right i thought yeah it's a wrap we should have did something a little more you know what i mean it was just over it was just honestly bro i was i was i was renting that spot for six years and you know that yeah we got a lot of [ __ ] out of the shelter that's it made for hella memories for us and greatness that was okay that's a crazy time my favorite times of my life was in that chat it was super transformative at the time in my life definitely i mean how did you meet that shirt how did i meet that shirt it's an amazing shirt like the drip like the air maxes are crazy right now they're going crazy like you don't see you don't see this right here this like this real like circle you know what i'm saying like this atlanta swag where [ __ ] was just putting [ __ ] together like nah match this with that and match this with that like you right now you're really a freaking [ __ ] right now right really you're really out there on abernathy right now well thank you actually i got this shirt from bourgeois angels in vancouver british columbia canada a great store thank you for acknowledging me and thank you also for hanging out and recording with jake hall yeah well thanks very much dreamville keep on rocking in a free world earth gang and oman dude wow wow that just happened right here you just do do this that's crazy quote j cole i get that basket and grab your i have no clue close out of the bag oh is this called full thing closed i don't know where i get that basket and grab your i don't know give me the rest that's what you said oh get your clothes yeah i want to vote shout out to steve lacy on that guitar boom boom a song about doing laundry that is incredible have you ever heard it have you ever heard that done before never has anybody else ever done a song about laundry you have to explore you're nardwar you have to know these things j cole did you tell dr dre about kendrick who told you that who gave you that piece of information well you are j cole we have to know that's never be that's never i hate uh uh yeah eve is here ladies and gentlemen he's been requesting your presence all night he just asked the craziest question which yes the answer is yes i did um i'm not gonna say i was the first to tell them there was there was a what's my man name that used to work for drake lights can't do it manny yeah uh when i when i brought him up to dre i was like yo you know what you got it i went in there to like uh work on detox or whatever you know um how dre do is like if you're a young rapper and he rocked with you he want to bring you through and like how you touch the water so yeah i was like yo you gotta sign this kid from compton boom boom kendrick boom and then uh manny was like oh yeah that's the kid i was telling you about boom boom so i have no clue you know what i mean cause that's never you know what i mean i've never heard him i say that type of [ __ ] but but yeah shout out to dr dre he made the right decision did you want to sign kendrick 100 i don't know what i would sign him to you know me and we have our business intact but but that's how much i rocked with him you know me at that time i met him um and and instantly was like man you know i i was highly impressed it was like damn you know that would have been the first artist in my mind but come to find out you know he was he had bigger [ __ ] going on so yeah lastly winding up here eve eva's here i gave a gift to you to give to eb the allen iverson rick come over here eve allen iverson he was wilding for a basketball player to say some of the things he was saying but you know it's just like culturally it was so fire to see like someone that was in the nba that was just being himself and saying on some street [ __ ] and saying a while [ __ ] he was saying that [ __ ] was crazy like that show was a moment and thank you ted as well cause ted helped oh ted ted you know ted is my guy from uh shot good good from back home and like you know i didn't really rock with cole in the beginning because i just i thought i was better than him with basketball i mean it's debatable i mean time really tells it like right like who's better right now i mean you work out every day you know you got omar here your trainer you know you got you play basketball you know [ __ ] happens i mean who's winning right now at the time though no at the time we had battles for sure we had battles i got ted from back home i've known since seventh grade we used to hoot all the time good shot good and he started he started rocking with ted you know what i mean because they was uh cause we were real hoopers like real talent recognized really you know when you're just seeing it in the gym you know you're nice and he see you and y'all see each other it was like that his man he was his man come to st john's with me to who you know what i mean and that's how they got close but uh you know it is what it is you know i was better at the time what's the importance of basketball camp phil phil basketball camp matt met basketball camp i mean basketball camp oh matt man trap you know i used to work at a basketball camp what the [ __ ] is it you're eve we have to know i'm not a trap and it's government too yeah yeah we call them trap you know i don't know who matt is um but not uh trap and my man t y when we used to work at basketball and we had lunch we used to go in the car nice to be like yo listen to my man and he'd be like yo jermaine they they be hooping i'm like yeah they're like damn it's [ __ ] nice so that's you know it's my guys you know what i mean so shout out to that the first uh one thing that i had when i was younger i had drive i had you know talent i had ability eve was the first person uh in my life to put the battery in my back of promotion he was doing to promote he was promoting me even before it was his job he was just cause he was i was promoted to the homies really in the in the beginning but that created the momentum and then he's the one telling me like bro what you gonna do with college it's just sitting on this music like i wanna get signed one day like [ __ ] just gonna find me he was like bro you gotta put something out so eve is the reason for for a lot of things but namely the reason why that first project the come up came out was cause he was like yo i was against mixtapes i thought it was corny everybody was doing them every [ __ ] in queens had a mixtape every [ __ ] in favor had a mixtape and eve was the one who's like nah you gotta get out there you know what i mean so i was a big joe bunny fan so we reached out to dj on point shout out dj on point moon music one two three all that good [ __ ] now i also give this to you because it's gone instrumental on it beat selection did eve help with beaked selection of j cole that's what i asked jake oh i don't know if i really helped with beat selection i might have like you know suggested that one is better than the other but you know you know selection that eve is really helpful with and and is sequence selection track he's a trackless god you know what i mean like when it comes to his dream of an artist i think i'm pretty good too but but not only is he my equal he might be my superior you know what i mean that's very nice you know it's very nice of him to say that i don't know if you know it's true but i'll take it through very very highly highly rated uh album secrets to anybody in the game if you want somebody's secrets your album and you know this is the guy ran i appreciate that you're welcome i just raised my price as as uh fat joe would say yesterday's price is not today's price that's that's it lastly your ebay thank you for letting me talk to j cole cause last time remember i saw you in vancouver british columbia canada and i gave you an la kings record do you remember that in l.a kings 45. i used to wear the la king's hockey jersey i don't know nothing about hockey and uh i'm not a la kings fan but he seen me rock the jersey and he gave me a la king's record i was like yo i still got it at the house too so what's around with ellie king's records he has the jersey actually we had another record for you a 45 that i gave cole a basketball record from 1949 to globetrotters from 1949. that's insane who's this guy this the dude that did it would you ever think that that song came from this dude that's crazy actually he didn't do it brother bones did it okay so he's just playing it i think he he invented harlem globetrotters abe did yes that's right brother bones actually wrote the song because that's awesome this guy invented yeah this guy can't do that he can't make that song but he could put some basketball players together he's a good gm he's the harlem globetrotters first gm but that's a gift for you from 1949 to continue the tradition of like an la kings record and now the harlem globetrotters i'm i guess i'm gonna get all the sports records that's what i'm gonna be the sports records got well thanks so much eeb and do i guess winding up here j cole when did you learn to breathe that's a deep very deep question to breathe air do you have any breathing tips like meditation i was like that was just some philosophical uh type of question uh like for singing for rapping oh you know what i think it comes from and this is a tip to you know anybody that's aspiring musician rapper specifically if you take the craft serious you know what i mean and i think when you're spending your uh childhood and your teenage years listening to music rap along when you rap along with your favorite rapper you know your favorite rapper right now might be who's who's popping who do you really want to interview right now who you waiting on other than you know other than this one right here who is somebody you really waiting on from the young generation well let's just say it's like little baby right and you're a big little baby fan you want to be a rapper you have to rap with him when you're listening don't just listen rap with him and that's what happened with me in breath control and and you know top tier breath control and ability to you know use these lungs it came from rapping along with all my favorite rappers from poc to jay to nas to outcast you know what i mean to to everybody that's where it came from eminem you know what i mean like came from that that's how the breath control i would think got good i would love to talk to a little baby you love to talk to a little baby you want me to set this up i would love it i would love you to pharrell the situation we'll try to forrell the situation for sure and speaking of the new generation drewski drewski you took him on tour i took drewski on tour it was it was legendary and he had a dj too like he had a dj killed it drewski is incredibly talented natural hella funny his skits are top tier you know i mean um he actually asked me he was like yo is it cool if i come on tour and i was already a fan of him like hell yeah let's do it and he killed that [ __ ] every night that she was rocking when juicy was on stage jayco thanks again for this interview i really appreciate it but i was thinking a shout out to katherine because she helped set this up catherine frazier thank you for setting this up i told you a couple years was it two maybe three years ago now two years ago dan vegas day in vegas i told you i would do it i like to keep my word as much as possible uh i hope you never felt like i wasn't gonna do it you know i always knew i would do it it's the perfect time thank you for you know for coming this way shout out to catherine for for making it happen and linking us and yeah how did you first meet catherine biss three how did i meet katherine it was a time when i was working on forest hills drive in la los angeles today is the anniversary of 2014 forest hills drive it's crazy so i met her when i was working on that album i probably had parted ways with whatever i don't have pr today she's just a friend of mine who now like just hits me if somebody hits her about something i don't have pr but at that time i thought you know i got to get a pr person and catherine i think came highly recommended and i met her and the vibe was amazing and she uh recommended meditation to me which i had already dabbled with but she gave me her experience with meditation and and i took that seed that she planted and i was like yo i'm going to revisit this and i meditated every day that year and got up to twice a day sometimes three a day so thank you catherine um and you hear the album that came out from from that you know what i mean from that process so today's the anniversary of that you know of that thing okay cool lastly quote i'm carolina's finest pr i probably said finest yeah on the l.a leakers that was a good one and speaking of carolina i lastly have another gift for you a north carolina record for you to sample possibly on the j dilla turntable the friendliest land never never heard of this never saw this one very interesting i like to know all the north carolina songs uh like james taylor legendary i'm gonna carolina in my mind love that one and maybe this one will be just as good from 1974 and it says carolina the friendliest land i thought it'd be perfect for you friendliest land in some places maybe um i had a great experience but you know someplace would be a little unfriendly but we'll see if this holds up yeah i wasn't exactly sure nah no doubt yeah we love carolina uh beautiful beautiful beautiful place beautiful people and and we'll see what this is talking about well thanks so much j cole anything you want to add to the people out there at all it was fire i'm hungry as hell but but i don't even feel hungry i was before this i was hungry as [ __ ] you've you've you nourished me through this interview thank you brother i appreciate it man well thanks so much for the time i really appreciate it and the kind words and also why should people care about j cole why should people care they don't have to care about me they don't they [ __ ] i'm not gonna say they should if you do i appreciate it you know what i mean uh if you like the music that's what matters but you know i live a real life outside of this you know i mean i have i do real things in real life you don't have to care and it's not that none of this is that serious me or otherwise you don't have to care about me but you know me if you do like what i put out and you support it i appreciate it you know i mean y'all changed my life um through rocking with the music so thank you very much but nobody should care you know what i mean it's not that serious but but you know y'all should care about narwhal you're doing important things for the culture and for the documentation of this history and there's a video of him talking to kurt cobain just sitting on the floor and [ __ ] i don't know you know what type of substances were being passed around in that backstage but it looked it looked really fun you know i mean and it's legendary what year would you say that was 1994 january 4th 1994. remember to date you see the encyclopedia of information that's in this man's mind very important thank you sir well thanks for the kind words j cole keep on washing your hands in a free world and do do dude i like that tone better dude you [Music] [Music]

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Views: 3,584,527

Keywords: Nardwuar the Human Serviette, J. Cole, Interview, Dreamville, 2021, Hip Hop, Rap, Carolina, Fayetteville, North Carolina, 2010

Id: GxVXEd_G_60

Length: 58min 21sec (3501 seconds)

Published: Sat Dec 25 2021

Reddit Comments

[u/LegacySXBR]

Man that interview was incredible, Cole's such a chill af dude.

[u/WrstlngFan]

Lmao at Cole trying to figure out how Nardwuar knew about him trying to introduce Kendrick to Dre for a good 15 seconds

[u/Nokel]

J. Cole mouthing "you're J. Cole, we HAVE to know it!" at 11:05 was the best

[u/mvdaytona]

How can anyone not like this man, such a cool, down to earth guy. I’m about halfway through the video and I’m loving it

[u/DRxCarbine]

Man of his word lol

[u/G2Climax]

If I talked to Nardwuar for whole hour he would probably start pulling out my social security numbers out of nowhere

[u/PyroDZN]

Love watching Cole interviews, this one gonna be a treat. Thank you Jermaine and Narduwar 🤞

[u/DontPushTheCush]

LETS GOOO

[u/BFB_HipHop]

Maaaan, us Cole fans been waiting over a year for this shit, but glad that Cole came thru, and nearly an hour at that. Great little Christmas bonus.