Nancy Pelosi Interview: A Candid Conversation on Family, Politics, and Persistence

could you just look in the camera and not at me and I'll you're ready so leader Pelosi I want to start at the beginning and I want to ask you about your upbringing you know where you were brought up and what your family was like I was brought up in Baltimore Maryland we were lived in Little Italy in the Italian section of Baltimore we were devoutly catholic fiercely patriotic proud of our Italian American Heritage and staunchly Democratic and your siblings I was the seventh child first daughter youngest child six boys one girl one of the boys died when he was young and so I was raised with five older brothers highly recommend that well it was they were wonderful it's the only way I knew and it was it was fine with me what were you what were your attitudes the attitudes of your parents toward you as the only girl in the family the attitude of my parents toward me as the only girl on the youngest in the family was overly protected protective and then on top of that having five older brothers to be overly protective so I was always declaring my Independence pushing people aside making my own way and independent I think that would be the word to describe me what well we're talking about a long time ago and expectations were different then I think my father thought that I don't know that he thought I would get married but that I would be a professional woman not that I would run for office my mother thought I would always live with her or be a nun he was my and when I got said we was getting married it was like well we always thought you'd stay with us or be a nun I mean did she try to really actually push you to be a nun well as I said I had a sort of an independent spirit so if she did I didn't notice although she had some strong suggestions in that regard um we've seen the picture of you at the swearing-in of your dad as mayor of Baltimore but how did that influence you to grow up in a political family I knew right from that day forward that I didn't like to be the center of attention I did not consider it I was glad when it was over I was thrilled to be swearing in my father I had to persuade a little speech which the nuns taught me when I was in first grade and but uh the minute the spotlight was off that was when I was happiest so you you didn't like it at first no I didn't I was very shy it's hard for some people to believe that but I was the shy one so in my involvement in politics over time was always behind the scenes with State chair promoting others what kind of an influence did your dad have on you my father was a star you know he was a great natural orator he cared about people he fought for them and he was he was great a great dad he I learned a lot of things just watching him learned how to win elections things like that learned how to count that was good count votes don't count votes but my mother was a bigger influence my father was the public figure and so people think of him and but my mother was really the force she was just absolutely great she had lived even in my generation or my daughter's Generations my goodness the Lord knows what she would have been able to accomplish instead she was in a very Italian-American culture culturally conservative community very liberal politically however how was she of force well she was a four you can imagine having seven children having seven children raising and six of them makes you strong but she was a beautiful lady and she was loved her mother loved her parents and that was a lesson to us at that respect for family that she just she was sort of like my father's unpaid assistant organizer Community activist and the rest and she always taught us about public service really being very personal my father taught of it being political and official she taught us about it being very personal the door would Bell would ring and people would come there looking for a job looking for a bed in the City Hospital a part housing in the public housing the projects food she'd always have them into he never knew who was going to be sitting at the table but she always taught us that we had that responsibility I could when I was a little girl I knew how to tell people how to get a bed in the City Hospital housing in the projects all the rest of it just by listening to her but um she was beautiful and strong and respectful of all of our neighbors and friends and a very wide circle of what you might call political friends um were you conscious at the time outside your family of girls and boys being treated differently I mean do you ever wish you were one of your brothers wish you were a boy no no well I didn't wish that period not that I didn't love them and think they were wonderful but I had my mother as a role model and no that would never have even occurred to me it's just that it was a different time my brother was really demonstrated an interest in politics and he was sort of the one that was groomed and he became the mayor of Baltimore too my brother Tommy nobody ever thought that I would be interested starting with me that I would be interested in politics I just again when I was in first grade my father became mayor when I went away to college my father was still mayor so in the 50s in my teenage years I just wanted to Rock Around the Clock be normal normal teenagers so you were married soon after college and began a family yes five kids six years that's pretty amazing tell me about your the tell me about those days your family life well when I was married um my husband and I lived in New in Manhattan which I loved I loved New York and so we were we're on top of the world there we were out of college living in Manhattan we proceeded then to have five children on the day I brought my Baby Alexandra home from the hospital that week my oldest child Nancy Curran had turned six so fifth child six years old Alexandra was the only a child born in San Francisco four of them were born in New York uh what was it like what's it like not to wash your face some days it was busy but fun oh my God glorious sometimes when young women would come up to me in Congress when I came to Congress they'd say what's it like to be a woman member of Congress that it's nothing like a newborn baby it's great to be able to remember God it's nothing like a newborn baby some people take issue with that but that's what I think um you began your family just as the women's movement was taking off did that have any impact on you I think it was a little bit further along by then but but uh well my mother I mean if she were at a certain point of life at that time would have been the first in line for the women's movement she was always encouraging in fact I remember when President Clinton was President every time he would appoint a woman whether it be Madeleine Albright or Wendy Sherman whoever it was every time he appointed a woman she'd be writing me a note saying please be sure she knows I'm watching her praying for she just you know she was very advanced in terms of what women um his expectations aspirations what women should be able to do so while on a formal way it was something that I I think I probably engaged in it more officially in the 70s a little bit later once my children were in school all day and all of that when we were fighting for paycheck Equity women 79 for every dollar that was one of our Banners at the 1976 Democratic Convention my mother was really probably she didn't realize it at the time but she was probably one of the early feminists she didn't know it by that name but she was a strong advocate for women and on the other hand she wanted me to be a nun so she was going to protect me from all of the world's ill so you have a pack of kids that that you get involved in politics how did that happen well it happened when I was a little girl of course that we'd never had you never walked into our home as lovely as it was without seeing on the table there at the entrance bumper stickers placards political pins brochures all the rest of that whether it was a federal election a Statewide election city election my father running for mayor whomever we were engaged in elections all the time it was great campaigning was a way of life for us the better part of course was after the campaigns to do the public service but we never shied away from the fight and uh and so I always understood that we all had a commitment to public service that we had to honor that it was a noble calling public service was and that we all had our role to play and we had a responsibility to our community and to our neighbors and that and that stayed with me and of course I carried that with me how I got back and I mean I pamphleted with my stroller in New York with my babies in the stroller go Pam a door-to-door it's hard to do in New York because sometimes they don't let you in the apartment building sometimes you have to disguise yourself as a trick-or-treater around Halloween right before the November election but one way or another we were slipping things under the door later I I really did not I mean have the faintest interest inclination or anything to be involved myself I did accept a position to be a on the library Commission in San Francisco it was the mayor of San Francisco Joe elioto called me one day I was home and um he said Nancy this is Joe alliota how are you what are you doing making a great big pot of pasta I said no Mr Mayor I'm reading the New York Times his wife loves me I tell her as it was that time of the day when the children were home from school they already had their snack they were doing their homework and I was always on call but I also was reading the paper so he's been in called and said he wanted me to be appointed to the library commission I said no I I love the library I always volunteer but I don't need any official title and he said no yes you do yes you do you don't do these things and volunteer you get an official title with it and that's a lesson that I learned from him that I passed on to other young women as well be recognized for what you do and when I went on the library commission I loved it and people want to know what my opinion was and how I was going to vote and would go out to the neighborhood libraries to hear how important libraries are important because wealthier people buy their books other people go to the library or they go there for research at least they did in those days before all of the technology now they still do in a different way but in any event the lesson of that story was that be recognized for the contribution that you make I tell that to young women all the time so you went on to the library commission and then you got more what happened what was the library commission as with other uh public entities was needing more funds and somebody said to me does anybody here know Leo McCarthy he was the speaker of the assembly and California and that's why I know the oh well we can go talk to Leo so we went to see Leo to see if we can get more State funding for public libraries and then one thing led to another and I was a big supporter of Leo McCarthy and he became a big supporter of mine encouraged me to be a party officer eventually the chair of the California Democratic party all through Leo he was really if a head of California Mentor it was he but that was the transition it was okay I'm trying to do normal things that normal people do but they're seeking a solution in government and therefore politics so I know how to do that as a public person so tell me how that happened well what happened was the path from the kitchen to the Congress goes as follows as a supporter of Leo McCarthy who was the assembly speaker in California and as a friend of Jerry Brown when Jerry Brown decided to run for president Leo was his chairperson his chairman and so I said to Leo you know if Jerry wants a run for president the California primary is far too late it's in June and by then we will probably have a nominee who can then dominate the party in California appointments that are made delegates election National Committee members are made by the presidential at that time it's changed now so I said if he wants to run for president he should run for president in Maryland in Maryland they had something on the ballot that said that if you're a recognized candidate any place in the country your name is placed on the Maryland ballot you can take it off or you can leave it on so I said to Leo let's talk to Jerry about leaving his name on the Maryland ballot which he did and we went established a campaign or my brother and my father all that and and friends and he um one and then he when we went back to California Jerry Brown said Nancy Pelosi is the political architect of my victory in Maryland and boom then I became a National Committee per woman a a chair of Northern California Democratic party chair of the party but that was really the exit from the kitchen what about well that was not for a few years later the 76 is when Jerry ran for president it wasn't until 87 of that in the meantime I became chair of the party we attracted the Democratic Convention to California it was wonderful we nominated a Walter Mondale and the first woman to be on a national ticket Geraldine Ferraro very emotional Italian American we had a congresswoman congresswoman Sala Burton who was my dear friend and I loved her very much as did my children and my husband she she had followed in her husband's footsteps Philip Burton who was a giant in the Congress then she when he passed away she became the congresswoman and then when she took ill she encouraged me to run she said I want to support you I want to endorse your candidacy and I you know I was nothing I had really even thought about but she said it'll make me feel better if you would say you will run because she was not well so I did and within a matter of weeks she passed away so I was boom just boom here and I was thinking two years from now you know I'm not going to run for re-election in two years two years from now it was six weeks from now so I talked about it with my husband and my children especially my youngest daughter Alexandra because four of the children were already in college we had one at home Alexandra was going into senior year she'll be in senior year when I would take office so I went with all the sincerity and to my baby daughter and said Alexandra now Mommy has a chance to run for Congress I don't know if I win or not but what's most important to me is you and if you want me to be here with you that's a good decision there's no bad decision here or I can run for Congress either way I'm happy she said mother get a life I had never heard the expression before this is 24 years ago I never heard the expression get a life before so um so I did in Congress and and she um she was okay with that in fact she said what teenage daughter wouldn't want her mother away for two or three nights a week she's very close to my husband so it all worked out she has a point a lot of political experts said you couldn't win the primary you were called a dilettante yeah what well uh the thing is is that I'm never one to be characterized by somebody else otherwise how could I even do my job many of the people that were in the race were people I had had events for at my home who had sung my Praises so much as a great party chair and all the rest of that I thought we were friends but I knew growing up growing up in politics and from my own experience in the political Arena that there's nothing as shall we say can be as mean spirited as a trap party fight an internationalizing battle there and so I do and so my friends would call me and say can you believe they said that about you I said why are you wasting my time don't why are you wasting my time if you're upset by what they're saying go volunteer at the campaign office raise me some money reach out to friends but don't what is the purpose of your call I don't care what they're saying I'm running my raise I'm not looking back where they are and if I were not in front I wouldn't be the Target and I think it surprised people when I was in the front runner right from the start yeah do you think you were underestimated well either I was underestimated or they decided to take that tact but they always underestimate women or they try to characterize and that's another message that I give to young women do not allow yourself to be characterized by them there is no secret sauce you know they always have this Mystique a man in a suit with a tie okay there's a given that certain things go with that you have something very special to contribute have confidence in why what what your goal is what your vision is about our country or our community what your knowledge is about getting a job done with a plan to do so and how you can attract support to do it that's about leadership and so I never let them bother me but the more demeaning they would try to be to me that just showed how desperate they were dinner and there were like 435 people there and about so what's that about 40 some tables and not two of them would be filled by women that's what it was like not two of them were filled by women it was overwhelming and I think Barbara Boxer used to say she said in the beginning they thought it was nice and then they thought it was something different was happening um I mean having women there having women there um yeah I was um I had a sense of responsibility I think all of us who served then and now had felt that we represented our own districts that was who sent us there and that's we spoke for but we also felt a relationship with all the women in the country who cared about what we were doing in Congress and uh you know later on when I became leader I more clearly assumed that responsibility but it was well you it isn't I don't know how different it is now but it's a time where you would go sit at the table and you'd make a suggestion and then they'd say next the next person would make a suggestion if it were man he said exactly what you said and said isn't that great let's go with what Joe suggested you think well I just suggested that but but I think women overwhelmingly have that experience yeah you hear this all the time no it's it's it's stunning and you look and then you look at each other and say oh my gosh I think the most funny exam or the funniest example of this was we used to go out Tuesday night all of us it would be a certain group of us who were all friends some from California and just friends and we would relax and it would be funny and and there weren't that many women in Congress so therefore at the table say there'd be 15 a dozen people maybe well Barbara Boxer Barbara Canali and I were usually the three women who were at the table and um and it's a you talk you just jump in because nobody asks you what you think never so one that they start talking about when their babies were born they were talking about childbirth and they're going on oh I'll never forget it I'll never forget it I think put on the green gown went in had the mask the whole thing and it was I brought my camera and I took pictures you want to see the pictures the other one would say well I went in two minutes I was out the door I was feigning and out there and they're going on and on and we're looking at each other and to think did it ever occur to them that we might know something more about childbirth and what it was night like that that day or evening than they do or that we may not even want to hear about at it you know and be the part of child bearing and rearing that we want to talk about over dinner and so when we confronted them with this that we understand that you never ask our opinion on anything but do you think you could have turned around and say what do you think well what we would have thought is they sounded really like bugs water on the green gown I had on the mask I had my camera oh really it's all about you right here's a mom here's a baby it's all about you so that was like the worst a week or so later we were at dinner with the loveliest man Don Edwards Don Edwards it was a congressman from California he was the floor leader for the era he was the feminist of the men and we were having dinner and we were talking about a subject and he turned to me and he said what do you think Nancy and I thought oh Don I mean you have no idea what that sounds like as a matter of fact last week told the whole story well they were all at the table they said we never did that we never did that they didn't even know what they didn't know about what they did Imagine yeah bozos and some of them are my very best friends in Congress but but that just gives you some idea that they never even thought that we might have an opinion or we might say we don't want to hear about it let's talk about that transition at one point you were asked you said I'm not interested in leadership I'm not I'm just early on early on I'm not interested so so how did that evolve you the the opening came up for the Whip and you went after it aggressively how did that happen well and early on people were saying you should run for leadership this or that and I I love well first of all I wasn't even coming to Congress then I got here thinking I'm doing my civic duty and then when I got and everybody said to me you're going to love working on the issues you're involved you love politics because you love policy you're going to love working on the issues and indeed I did so rather than doing my civic duty I really enjoyed what I was doing and I took a deep drink of it you know the Appropriations Committee I focused on policy policy policy the intelligence committee security all of that I loved all the learning that went with it and then the Judgment it gave you once you knew all this so I was steeped in the policy and that's what I and I of course there is no honor that I will ever have in Congress that equals stepping on the floor every day representing the people of San Francisco so I love my district I love the power it's almost two jobs legislative and representative uh and so I wasn't particularly interested what turned in my head was when we lost we lost in 94 96 98 2000 2000 I said wait a minute I really I'm not waiting for lightning to strike I know how to win elections but I can't win it if I'm just raising money for other people to make decisions I have to have a role in this and that way I can attract the support because I can commit to I know how to win this and then we did and but anyway that's why I ran for leadership and I don't think people thought that I don't know what they thought but I knew that when I ran and I asked people for support that enough people had encouraged me to run all along that I would win I don't like to put people out on a limb unless I have a very good chance of winning so what was it like to finally be at the leadership table you get you go to the White House with the member of the Congressional leadership what was that like well that was a having been I've been to the White House many times as an appropriator and as a intelligence Committee Member and I I didn't think a whole lot about when I was going for my first day for the first meeting of leadership with the president of the United States I had no anxiety about it all I said I'm going to a meeting at the White House so when I got there and the door closed behind me in the room where the meeting would be the president the vice president the House and Senate Democrats and Republicans table of ten approximately and the door closed behind me I realized that this was unlike any meeting I had ever been to the White House in fact it was unlike any meeting any woman had ever been to the White House at the table as a representative of the Democrats and not appointed by the president however wonderful that is but nonetheless in my own right in the right that my members had given me not beholden not derivative from man at the head of the table the president the president was gracious President Bush President George W bush he was gracious as he always is he's very lovely welcoming me looking forward to working as and he was saying something to the effect of we look forward to hearing your views I'm sure they'll be different than some of ours hahaha and as he was speaking and then got into talking about a legislative agenda I could feel very closed in in my chair very very closed in I didn't I'd never felt that before it was very different for me very closed into my chair and all of a sudden I was realizing that sitting on that chair with me with Susan B Anthony Elizabeth Katie Stanton Lucretia Mott Alice Paul Sojourner Truth you name it they were all on that chair and then I could hear them say at last we have a seat at the table and then they were gone and my first thought was we want more we want more but you you not that you don't know but it's certainly driven home the fact that we stand on the shoulders of so many women who fought so hard in times that were so shall we say unfriendly to women hitting the road to talk about women's rights and women's right to vote 150 years before or longer and the shoulders now that other young women stand on a virus and responsibility we have to those who went before and those who come next and the women who are out there now as politicians rise in leadership they frequently become targets I think that's particularly true for female politicians what was that like what happened as you became more you know powerful and and more public I guess or more effective I think one of the reasons that people become a Target is that you're affected if you're not effective who cares but we took on some mighty special interest here whether it was energy whether the oil industry some on Wall Street health insurance industry you name it we've passed the biggest Consumer Protections in history we passed Health Care reform and health care right not a privilege no longer being a woman is a pre-existing medical condition we passed Wall Street reform as I mentioned took on the Giants passed a magnificent Energy bill that President Bush signed made a big difference we haven't finished with our climate change aspects of it but when you show that you can get a job done because these people had ruled they had ruled them and people said you will never get a health care business you'll never get an energy bill passed you'll never get a Wall Street reform pass but we did we did many things that that I'm very proud of including every step of the way trying to end discrimination discrimination of women in the work force was Lily Ledbetter the first bill the president signed and uh lending his first two years the president after Obama's repeal of Jonah s don't tell very important so when you are effective you are a Target and I was effective policy wise says she and modestly but also politically I mean I know how to raise the money and make these shall we say clear-eyed decisions you have to make about about winning and that's how we won the house in the first place so you become a Target and then they'll use any you know you're responsible for everything you know oh my gosh if it rains if it doesn't rain it's all your fault what I see that they do to women is to trivialize what women have accomplished to give the impression that they don't know the recipe for the secret sauce that only men know that they undermine them in their strengths which is a high ethical standard and bring fresh eyes to the subject they call that an experience or an eye to tag but whatever it is they try to undermine and it's really unfair because I think it's in everybody's interest Democrats and Republicans to have many more women on all parties represented in Congress and in government and in business and across the board I don't think there's anything that has been I know that nothing has been more wholesome for our political system for our government than the increased participation of women you became a particular Target especially when you became minority leader you became the woman they loved to hate yeah you're talking about when I first became minority leader yeah yeah when you became minority leader there were a lot of a lot of nasty things said about you yeah always yeah well I figured I took that as a badge of honor I I considered the source A and B that if I weren't effective they wouldn't be wasting their time on me but that that's again a lesson that I give to young people do not let anybody shake your confidence about what you came here to do you got to fight that fight and you cannot let them if you're as I am a staunch Democrat you cannot let them choose the party's leader and future because you might be effective but personally it's a hard thing for your family and for your friends they may not you know they don't reap the benefit of being able to make the contribution that you make here or wherever it is and they they get their feelings hurt if somebody's saying mean things about you some of us you get in the ring you earn the arena you jump in the ring if you throw a punch you better be ready to take one and if you take one you better be ready to throw one not very nice to say one of the problems with it is it's a tough Arena it's a very tough Arena power is not something that anybody is ever given way in the history of the world for over 200 years we had a pecking order appear what man was going to do what next and how would they do musical chairs among those positions and so now you're saying we're going to break the marble ceiling we're doing things differently and uh and that is resistant but again you know why you're there it's the existential question why am I here I'm here to make a difference and if that difference hurts the feelings of the special interest of Big Oil big health insurance Big Wall Street not everybody in all of those categories let me hasten die not to paint everybody with the same price so bad do you think that sometimes women have trouble dealing in that very tougher well I think that um whether women have trouble dealing in it it's not an appealing aspect of what we do and so what I'm trying to say to them is you are needed here it's urgent for more women to be involved in government and politics so uh come on over and we will what I keep saying to women is you've got to watch each other's backs more carefully I mean I had tens of millions of dollars spent against me I have a very thick skin I eat nails for breakfast I put it on a suit of armor and I go into battle a lot of people don't do that and they don't want to do that they want to come in to play the role that they play but if they want to emerge they have to understand that they become a Target and we have to watch women's backs in politics because there's I know the world is competitive in business and an academic world and all the rest but this is a very tough Arena talk to me about after several elections um your your move to bring Democrats back into the majority well in 2006 again one of the reasons that I am not always lining up everybody as a friend is because I wanted to do things differently and I we said we wanted to take a private sector approach if you're number two how do you get to be number one and it required great uh discipline discipline to do it to all stay on the same page with the same message to have our timing be such that some people were uncomfortable with they want to go faster or this or that but nonetheless from our private sector this is first you do this then you do that you do everything and it's time you had a plan we had a plan and members Place confidence at us in the plan and President Bush gave us a gift he went out there to say you want to privatize Social Security and so that was one path and then we had a couple other paths that sort of reinforced each other and served as well but it was about plan it was about seeing from the same not only the same Hymnal but the same page and it was everybody knew the role they had to play and it was cold-blooded clear-eyed and effective and then when we won uh you know it was the great Victory and then I was elected by my colleagues to be speaker but you know the fact that I was a first woman speaker was pretty exciting for me it was just really important that the Democrats win and even when I was in leadership I never thought I was going to be speaker I thought did Gebhart would be speaker but then we didn't win and then it was up to me to carry the ball and I knew how to do that so you know there have been what 237 women in Congress um in the House of Representatives you're the first the only woman to be the Speaker of the House tell me about that day for me the excitement was that the Democrats were winning the majority in the Congress I was overwhelmed by messages from around the country and what was particularly satisfying to me was that I had so many Communications from fathers of daughters saying now my daughter has another opportunity thank you and that was great because the mom's moms always have confidence in their daughters but having the dad say that that was really great and that picture of you with all the children how tell me about that well um when I received the gavel they asked me if I wanted to have my grandchildren with me on the podium maybe they didn't ask maybe I asked I don't know how it evolved but I was going to my grandchildren were going to be on the podium with me but when they came up to the podium the I could see it in the eyes of the kids out there that they wanted to be there too so I said well all the children come up and oh they scampered up Democratic children Republican well children are children but from both sides of the aisle shall we said from both sides of the aisle they scampered up there and uh was pretty exciting because for me my whole interest in politics is an extension of my role as a mother my role in politics is about what we do for our children that's that's it it's about them it's about their future it's about their health their education the economic security of their families clean and safe neighborhoods world at peace Economic Security and um and so for me the best thing was to be able to gavel it in the name of all all of America's children our poorest children that that to me is the what's the important thing you talked about breaking the marble ceiling and you said the sky's the limit the number of women in Congress really hasn't increased at all in fact I think it's decreased a little bit um why do you think that is well a couple of things first of all we had a big spurt and and spurts are that you know you get a big spirit and then can you sustain that well we did for a while in the last election uh many Democratic women were defeated as many Democrats were defeated uh but you know what we just have to come back and I think there's going to be a place where it's no longer little increments in terms it's going to be much more much bigger numbers as women just go out there assert themselves uh in a way that to take over and the public becomes more and more Public's way ahead of the politicians in terms of women public I think is much more receptive to a woman president of the United States than maybe some of the politicians I always used to say it'd be easier for a woman to be elected president than to be elected speaker of the house because it's all inside here and the American people have the ability to to decide who the president is going to be and they are much more Progressive if that's the word to use in that regard I want to talk just a little bit about the work family challenge you had what looked like a very traditional marriage for the first 25 years was it and did your marriage change as you got more involved in politics 25 years oh my gosh the way you say that when I was active in politics but not personally running I was quite busy in my spare time as well when my children were in school all day until they went away to college I thought I can change the world once you take care of five kids all day you know how to manage time you're a diplomat you're an interpersonal expert you're you know you you you're an engineer you're an editor you're a you know you're all these things that's what I say to women count that as a giant Plus on your resume that you were home raising those kids hardest job in the world most fulfilling but hard so I had a husband who was cooperative when I was doing all the political volunteer work as well but of course that's volunteer and so you're you can dictate the use of your time I always say to some of my friends now when they when they say how did you put The Secret of a happy marriage I said well Paul and I think that we have found the secret of a happy marriage but you may not want to live apart 2500 miles apart three or four days a week all right I have to ask you first of all Geraldine Ferraro's nomination you mentioned it briefly what was it like to be in that room the nomination of the first woman to be on a national ticket it was like like well I guess it's not a good analogy to say it was like a stampede of elephants but it was thunderous in terms of the cheering and the pounding and the rest of it it was it was emotional it was patriotic it was something so fabulous and she was she was just great and we all loved her and but that was a moment you know there are things that are a moment that was a moment something spectacular we were so proud

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Published: Tue Aug 15 2023