My Experience with Autism

you the mind Institute distinguished lecture series isn't this extraordinary so many people here we owe it to one person and I went to I think are an interest in the good practical way that we can learn as you know we have a distinguished lecture series of the mind Institute that is in Sacramento we've never drawn this many people to have this many people here in Davis makes us know there's a large audience here as well and we really appreciate how many people are coming out and we hope that you'll want to learn more about the mind Institute my name is Bob hendren I'm the executive director of the mind Institute David Amer all agreed to share this with me who is our director of research and the person who organizes the distinguished lecture series and has done a marvelous job of it so I know you didn't come here to hear me talk but I'm going to introduce the next person who will introduce our speaker dr. Marjorie Solomon Friedman will introduce our speaker for tonight could I ask first that you turn off your cellphone's and that you at the end know that we have a time for Genet answer so you'll have that opportunity to end your job welcome thank you Bob good evening I'm dr. Marjorie Solomon assistant professor in the department of psychiatry and at the mind Institute and I'd like to welcome you to the mine Institute's distinguished speaker series as evidenced by our need to move our talk here today this with an auditorium over five times as large as our auditorium our speaker tonight needs little introduction most people are lucky if they achieved prominence in one career during their lifetime our speaker today has distinguished herself in at least two dr. Grandon earned her PhD in animal science from the University of Illinois in 1989 she currently is a professor of animal science at Colorado State University she consults extensively in the beef industry on facility design and livestock handling close to half of the cattle in the United States are handled and systems she's developed she's received numerous awards for her work in the beef industry and in the humane treatment of animals her book animals and translation was nominated as a top science book of the year if I discover magazine in 2006 however since this is the mind Institute speaker series you've probably come here to hear about dr. Grandin second distinguished career in this second career dr. Grandin has truly given up herself in helping us all to better understand the experience of being a person with autism dr. Grandin is extremely articulate in describing her perceptions consequently she's been invited on most of the top TV news and radio talk shows in the country she's also a superb ands authored several books about her own life including thinking in pictures and emergence as well as several more practical works about critical issues for persons with autism developing talents by autism Asperger press and understanding unwritten rules which is published by future horizons as both a parent of three sons and a professional who works with children on the autism spectrum dr. Grandin's life history and accomplishments serve as a clear reminder to me and perhaps to us all that our job as parents and teachers both with and without autism is to help them to discover what they love to help them to clarify their strengths and their challenges and to imbue them with sufficient internal strength to make their mark on the world please join me in extending a warm welcome to dr. Temple Grandin whose talk is entitled my experiences with autism it's really great to be here today I got to turn this mic away so we don't get feedback because that's something that really bothers me when I was a little kid I had all of the full-blown symptoms of autism I had no language I had tantrums you know I would just sit in Rach you might wonder what's the difference between autism and Asperger's the main difference is is that autism you have obvious speech delay in Asperger's you don't there's a continuum of traits very severe all the way up to a scientist like Einstein in fact if you didn't have a little bit of the autism genes probably wouldn't have any musicians artists or scientists in fact you wouldn't have any iPods or any of these a little cell phone toys because takes a little bit of autism genes to get people interested in making those sort of things now I can't emphasize enough the importance of early intervention I had really good early intervention like two and a half I had a speech teacher who did a lot of ABA type of stuff with me and she'd stretch out and enunciate the hard consonant sounds my mother hired a nanny and we spent lots of time playing turn-taking games I had to be taught Sharon had to be taught turn-taking games and getting lots of hours of good intervention so also were some real advantages growing up in the 50s because social rules were taught table manners were taught saying please and thank you was taught you know I see a lot of 40 and 50 60 year-old Asperger's out in the workplace actually doing quite well but some of the younger ones that haven't been getting that kind of disciplined upbringing it sometimes have a real problem now the thing is you must never mix up sensory problems with bad behavior I want to talk about that a little bit later but I can't emphasize enough about getting 20 hours or more a week really good one to ones with a very very effective teacher when I was little in the school bell went off it hurt my ears like a dentist's drill it was just absolutely terrible another kid may have visual sensitivities these sensory problems are really variable in one way you kind of figure out how severe the sensory sensitivity our is asked what happens at Walmart if every time you go to Walmart the screaming fit then you've got very very severe sensory problems but it's variable one kid's going to like running water another kid's going to go running away from it but things like the smoke alarm are often the worst my auditory threshold was normal you go test the hearing it's normal but that tells you nothing about auditory detail the ability to hear the hard consonant sounds and these problems are inside the brain we need to be doing a lot more research on the sensory issues on the problems with hearing because a lot of these sensory issues are very very debilitating you know if you can't tolerate a normal store environment or an office environment that really unmess is up your language now some kids are echo a lick and then repeating back all these commercials why do they do that they don't hear very well so they tend to repeat back sort of like repeating back a phone number kids can yak back a whole commercial and they may not know what that commercial means they may think the tone of the language is the communication rather than the words and then you got to teach all that the words have meaning by paying with flashcards pairing hundreds of words to pictures and then they'll start to pick those pictures out and understand it this is some work on me Clinton did where he had people watch a movie called Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf I understand really boring social movie the kind of movie that when I'm on an airplane the head phone does not stay on for this movie you know I have to say night in the museum was that sort of more my speed shrek is kind of more of my speed I watched that movie The Guardian on a plane that was really good the headphones stayed on for the whole trip now one they were looking at they were looking at the eye you know looking at the eyes now I didn't know that people had all these secret little eye signals until I read about I'm in a book when I was 50 I didn't even know that that existed now look at how many times a normal person looks back and forth between the eyes the autistic doesn't look part back and forth Harley doll in a red wine now this tells me some other things other than social attention shifting slowness brains that have problems take much longer to shift back and forth also the autistics looking at the math why are they looking at the math they don't hear very well they're trying to figure out what's being said the other thing is a lot of people on the spectrum have difficulty seeing and hearing at the same time that's difficult for me and sometimes looking at the eyes makes it harder to hear and when I'm in a noisy environment I sometimes just have to turn my dominant ear towards the person so I can concentrate on what's being said try to look at their eyes and then I can't hear what's being said one of the things is a big problem for brains with problems multitasking absolutely cannot multitask I've either got to listen to something I'm going to hear something Donna Williams talks about mono channel in her books I talk about that in my book on thinking in pictures Donna has a wonderful book called autism and inside-out approach and the Jessica Kingsley catalog I just saw that just afternoon and it's still in print and if you want to understand sensory problems it's a great book now some people have visual processing problems now I want to emphasize these problems with the sensor it's all inside the head the ears are fine the eyeballs are fine it's inside the brain and when they go to look at things sometimes the image breaks up this pictures from Oliver Sacks is migraine book I don't have this problem now how can you tell if a kid's got sensory processing problems with their eyes well they tend to flick a lot around their eyes if you take them to a strange house they may go down the stairs like a blind person they have a hard time judging depth and they also may have problems with reading yeah here are some signs of visual processing problems a lot of finger flicking around the eyes they tilt the head and look out the corner of their eye because they can hear better they often hate escalators because they can't tell when to get on and off they hate fluorescent lights now it's very interesting to hear today in the mine institute has special fluorescent lights that are on 300 cycle rather than 60 cycles but regular 60 cycle fluorescent lights they can see that flicking on and off like a discotheque and it drives them crazy they may have difficulty catching a ball and guess what your eye exams are going to be normal but you still have got a problem with the brain now some of these kids when they go to read the print will jiggle on the page some dyslexics have this when I talk about all these sensory things some of the ADHD people have it we've got to do more research on the century why are we doing research just on social and not doing anything on sensory and sensory cell the most debilitating stuff that there is for both nonverbal and from really smart people that are like Asperger computer programmers you know and they're doing their programming in a dark room because they can't stand the fluorescent lights because it's driving and crazy but I want to emphasize the variability one person the sensory problems are mild my problems are hearing sensitivity and touch sensitivity I can't stand scratchy clothes against my skin they just drive me crazy you know I still wears I have to wear a underwear inside out because I can't stand they the stitching against me you know a lot of the genes now they've maybe I don't really get this yucky cheap cotton that is itchy that really bothers me here are some simple interventions for the visual processing problems try putting just an incandescent lamp old-fashioned energy wasteful hot light bulb ax next to the desk you might try you know if you're lucky you can get these 300 Hertz fluorescent lights and you can wear a hat to block the fluorescent lights try a laptop computer a laptop computers the only screen that doesn't flicker I'm I worked with a student that had dyslexia and I can apply to figure out why she wouldn't use the big computers and she said they flickered and they drove her crazy and there's been students where a laptop saved their career to save so they wouldn't be flunking out of school because the other kinds of screens were going on and off like a disk attack and even some of the desktop flat panels they've got a fluorescent light inside so they're no good either let's just stick with a laptop you know that's good try printing a homework on gray tan or pastel paper to reduce the contrast some people are really helped by the colored lenses okay let's some let's try a really simple thing go down to Walmart I under sensor II problems you tend to really really hate hate hate Walmart and try on all the pale sunglasses I talked to one mom whose kids could only do five minutes of Walmart after the kid tried some pink sunglasses on she could do an hour of Walmart but again these glasses are not going to help everybody this is the problem with the spectrum it is so variable maybe they only help one out of ten they really help those one out of ten try playing balancing games you know there's been a lot of success of these therapeutic riding programs I've heard parents say the speech came in why is it therapeutic riding so good it's a combination of a rhythmic activity and a balancing activity the two things together somehow that tends to stabilize the brain work on some of the swinging activities and balancing activities like sitting on a ball while you're doing your ABA and while you're doing your speech therapy and then there's some people where prism glasses work that has to be done by a professional by a developmental optometrist and there's a book by Kaplan about it now what are some simple things we can do for no sensitivity you can do the auditory training various auditory of training programs where you listen to electronically distorted music and it helps you to sometimes helps reduce the sound sensitivity help the hearing consonants another simple thing you might try is take the dreaded fire alarm or smoke alarm and record it on a recording device then you play it very softly you let the child or the adult control the volume they must controlled they must initiate and then you gradually increase it and sometimes you can desensitize that way now if you want to wear earplugs it must be off for half the day if you leave a lot all the time you're going to make the hearing more sensitive I know you all have had wax in your ears the doctor cleans it out now everything sounds loud that's because the brain compensated for the earwax but make sure that you can wear the ear top plugs for the horrible gymnasium or for the cafeteria but other times a day they've got to be off you're going to have half the day where they are off of you now scientists have learned a lot sensory problems are real there's been some good research done on it we need a whole lot more research lower brain areas are in mature it's been a lot of great research so my Eric for Shane Nancy Minshew there's abnormal circuits between brain regions there's actually quite a lot that is known you know it's sort of like a brain is like a big office building and the interdepartmental connections between brain regions are poor on sensory problems are extremely variable from case to case another really interesting research by Nancy minsu is that is it word based tasks a processed in the visual cortex she did a really really interesting paper where they had get a person in the functional MRI scanner where they can look at brain function and they're asked these sentences and then they have to answer with a true or false now a visual sentence would be high visual would be something like you know on cats dogs and rocks are all living things okay that would be false and then something that is non visual would be subtraction in addition to both math now when I read the methods section of that paper I saw my third-grade classroom even that and that thing that's considered non visual I was processing visually because I'm a visual thinker the frontal cortex tends to be used less and the frontal cortex tends to have the worst problems with connections now I want to get into behavior problems caused by autism or Asperger's that we're going to need to make some accommodations for screaming when the fire alarm goes off you know I can't comes in the big supermarket there's some people that may not be able to tolerate a big supermarket problems with scratchy clothes poor handwriting don't get a kid so frustrated with handwriting that you lose literacy no two fingers on a keyboard nothing wrong with two fingers on a keyboard and problems of fluorescent lights these are real things may have to accommodate these things this is what we don't accommodate bad behavior and this is where being a child of the 50s is really helpful and Jana you've got to differentiate between bad behavior and a sensory problem you never ever punish a sensory problem but rudeness wasn't tolerated I was taught table manners I was taught that I couldn't you know eat mashed potatoes in my hands I had to say please and thank you I had to sit through church and I didn't like Church I thought was very boring now fortunately our church had a beautiful organ that didn't hurt my ears if our church had had an electronic blasting rock-and-roll I would not have been able to tolerate that see this is where you differentiate between the sensory overload and bad behavior and I had to sit through fancy Sunday dinners at my grandmother's and when I look back at these things it was very very good training sloppiness and being an absolute Pig it's another thing you know there are some people losing good jobs because they're laughing at a family or they're swearing well there was some consequences for some of these things TV would be taken away for one night but you never ever ever take away something that could be the kids career like musical instruments or art or computer programming yeah we take the video a game away for day but the programming of the video game thinking we don't take that away because we've got to nurture the things that could turn into careers it's really really really important you know because talents are the kind of like fragile flowers you know they can be stomped on and they've got to be nurtured now how do you know if a kid's a visual thinker what kind of thinker but third or fourth grade they'll spontaneously be drawing things you know my parents did a lot to nurture that you know I was given art lessons and professional art supplies you know that was really encouraged my career is based on drawing now I'm a visual thinker and it's literally like having pictures in your head I think like Google for Images and everything I think about is in images its son even if I think about things that are kind of abstract like justice I have to see pictures in my mind of different specific cases ones where I thought they had a just outcome and ones where I didn't think they had a just outcome now I use thinking in pictures when I do my work on designing equipment and I can test run equipment my head I didn't know that other people's minds didn't work this way until I started questioning people about how they thought and I asked them accessor memory on church steeples now I just see specific ones but most people get kind of a generalized one some people get a very specific kind of generalized one and some people that are not visual at all get just like that there's two lines and there are a few people where there's no picture at all there's another one of my projects but it was interesting to find out how my thinking differed from other people's thinking and I like this project because I like the fantasize about what the archaeologists are gonna think it's for when they dig it up now how do you form a concept when you think in pictures well a young man sent me this picture to show how he sorted cats and dogs into little boxes in the spring categories categories are the beginning of concept formation you sort information into categories now when I started out I knew that dogs were bigger than cats yeah but then what happens when you get a little tiny talk and I can remember when our next-door neighbors got a dachshund and how did I figure out that the dachshund was not a cat I had to find a new visual feature every dog has that none of the cats have and every single dog no matter how teensy weensy has got exactly the same nose so I categorized them by nose shape its sensory based thinking not word based thinking now I could also do it by barking or meowing I could do it by their smell it's sensory pay putting things into categories now Nancy men's you did some brain scans on me to look at the big trunk lines that are in the brain I'm the red one and I control my sex age-matched control he's a blue one and I was really I really was blown away when I got these scans back and I go wow I really do have a big big big internet cable deep into the primary visual cortex and I used to joke around about this and and now I found out then you know I actually have this and some other people with autism have it you know everybody has a big trunk line but I just got a bigger one but the price I pay is I can't multi-task you know there's some things I can do really well and low light tasks can tell you right now not one and take a little higher up scan they got a real big one on the right and my one on the left pretty puny now I have found in talking to people that the autistic mind and the Asperger mind is a specialist mind tends to be good at one thing bad at something else research dr. crocheting has shown that this sort of like like not enough wires to go around the wire up this office building evenly so like one department tends to get a whole bunch of you know internet connections the other one doesn't get much and I'm a photorealistic visual thinker and I'm bad at algebra there's too often we pound away at the deficit rather than building the talent we should have I mean I should have gone on to geometry and trig that wasn't done big big big mistake I'm not saying forget math I'm saying forget algebra I have talked to I have talked to parents where the kid can do high-level physics but they cannot do algebra you see there's no way to make a picture now you have the music and math mind this is a form of visual thinking but it's patterns relevant photorealistic pictures if you read that new book on a born on a blue morning this is the guy that was profiled on 60 minutes the mathematical savant it's thinking in patterns rather than in pictures now the thing is you know develop ability in music there's got to be some access to musical instruments I'm going to access the musical instruments that haven't developed they got to get access to math let's say you have a situation where the kids good at math well maybe a kid needs to be doing eighth grade math but he may need to do second grade reading but don't make the kid do baby second-grade math where he's just bored you might have a kid in high school and he's do college math then let them do it and then you have the verbal gyeom non-visual thinker loves history terrible at drawing but they'll know every statistic don't know like the name of every band they'll know all the sports statistics very good with those sorts of things some of these guys make really good journalists now this praying mantis I want to give you a glimpse into what the pattern thinker is all about that praying mantis is made out of origami folded paper what you see in the background is the folding pattern for the praying mantis now I just can't you know do this at all but I'm trying to I'm trying to like figure out myself looking into this you know different kinds of minds now you want to teach a concept to a guide dog like what an intersection is I got to showing many many different intersections too often parents say to me Oh Mike kid knows the rules when he's at home about not running across the street but it gris nez runs across the screws at the library runs across the street you've got to teach them in maybe 15 different places that you don't run across the street then you'll get the concept you got to train this guide dog on 10 or 15 different types of intersections so he gets a concept if you only train them on intersections with painted white line crosswalks you won't know what to do on ones that have no crosswalks so you've got to teach them on ones with stop signs ones with no stop signs then he's going to get many many different kinds to form an intersection concept made up of many specific examples see the thing is it's specific to general the normal brain goes the other way general to specific I take the details and piece the details together into a general principle let's do some games with playing with korie's now if you say to an autistic kid pick out the red things they may do that but then I might pick out any of them because of some light on some of these objects but where the autistic really has problems is making up new categories some other work that dr. minshew did and let's say make up new categories like contains plastic contains metal is a round object now we were little kids we used to play that game 20 questions now which is basically a game of categories you ask is an animal plant or mineral is it used in sport no you know when you narrow down what the object is that's a game of categories play games with categories this will help teach flexible thinking now how do I think about very abstract things like what the Lord's permit well when I went to a little special speech therapy school one of the thing I was taught was to say Lord's Prayer no I had absolutely no idea what it meant thou art heaven I didn't know what that meant now there was one little girl that thought it was God up in heaven painting on an easel thou art in heaven and the only part that I understood was the power and the glory this is my picture for the power and the glory we've got a rainbow here with an electrical tower at the base of the rainbow that is the power and the core is autistic learnings memorization yes in the beginning it is yes it's just scripting but as I learn more and more scripts and a load more and more information into my head I now I have more web pages inside my head that I can search with my own internal Google so it's really really important to expose the kid to lots and lots of different experiences so I know yeah I told this guy off yeah I got fired my job that was really you know bad thing I don't want to be on be doing that you know they need to be exposed to things sometimes they need to be a little pushed you know I was scared to go out to my aunt's ranch when I was on and when I was in high school now surprises don't do surprises that scares you know what the trip was planned for a long time my mother says well if you don't like it you can come back in two weeks I turned out I loved it sometimes they need to be pushed a bit to try new things like I was scared to go to the lumberyard and buy lumber myself even though I was remodeling the kitchen mother made me go in a lumberyard by myself yep I came back crying when it came back to the stuff and then the next trip to the lumberyard was fine I can remember the first time I bought gas I was petrified you know but I did it now I was back in the days we didn't have to do it yourself so it actually was a little less scary but you know I I did it now people that have visual thinkers are often really good it's hidden figure test you see the figure there how can you see it any good now you know people that are on the spectrum are often real good at this and what happens when you put them in the brain scanner is like getting a direct line right in the visual part of the brain so now I'm going to show you some pictures I'm going to call visual symbol pictures let's show you how I can use visual thinking in a much more abstract sort of way and that's the visual symbol picture for the brain scan of the autistic person it's like yeah all the wires went into the visual part and the rest of the brain is kind of shut off it's like this little cabin out in the snowy wilderness this lamp store is a visual symbol picture for the brain scan of the normal person you got so much other stuff turn on here kind of interferes the language covers up the sensory based kinds of thinking what's that all about that reminds me to talk about interconnectedness of the brain that the brain is sort of like a big office building the skeletal building reminds me of hindrance see if I don't have a visual image I can't think have to bring a visual image up or there just isn't thinking and you might look at this and go what's that have to do with the brain well it's sort of like a scaffolding for thinking the thing is when you hear a word you see a word you speak the word or you think about a word see different parts turn on and in the normal part of the brain there's all kinds of circuits that connect up everything together the autistic brain is less of this interconnections now this beautiful picture was published in the journal Neurology by dr. Bruce Miller and it looks like autistic savant art but it's not but it gives us great insight into how language covers up the visual thinking and the musical thinking this actually came from an Al's high MERS patient that had a type of Alzheimer's called frontal temporal lobe dementia and as the language got rekked art talent came out of like a stockbroker a tape deck installer you know people with no previous interest in art show you another one of these pictures they this might happen before or five years and then the Alzheimer's wrecks everything but there's a four or five year window when is art talent comes out and they get real autistic he acting - you know during this time you know make teaching math con create a set of these blocks with different lengths of blocks for different numbers this made it much easier teach fractions by cutting up fruit so you under really understand half teach sharing by dividing a juice up evenly between four different kids know in the 50s all the things that were fun to do you had to take turns I mean you had to play hockey table hockey was something you had to do with somebody else you couldn't do it by herself and I think this was really good and I was bad about sharing I was bad about turn techie but I had to learn these things here's teaching math with just little pieces that you can touch you know let's teach multiplication five times six equals thirty I got five pennies this way six down this way I fill out the grid now I can see that multiplication is sort of a form of adding this came from the teach program I got five minus one equals four now when you take away the piece you bag it you bag the piece in a baggie that you took away the teach the idea of subtraction here's six minus five equals one and you bagged the piece now what's this all about what am I doing here putting these boxes up here or cleft palates when I'm going to be talking about emotion well the mind research has been doing some really interesting research and finding the amygdala the emotion center is abnormal and about eight years ago our library at Colorado State University got flooded and what they're doing is rescuing wet books and it was very very upset about books being wrecked because it was knowledge being destroyed see the thing is I am what I do and yes I emotions when kids tease me in high school it was absolutely awful getting teased in high school was absolutely the worst worst part of my life it was completely totally dreadful and but where I had fun was with shared interests riding horses the students at rode horses did not do teasing you know and then while are talking about animals want to add that the book table out there does have about 30 copies or 20 copies of animals and translation left few copies of emergence left they're right out there in the lobby we want to make sure we get those books sold out tonight they don't want to take them back to the bookstore just want to make sure you know that they're back there and one of the things I talk about in animals and translation is that horses were just sort of my salvation because the kids that liked horses were not the kids that did the teasing the kids that liked electronics were not the kids that did the teasing these specialized activities they were refuges away from horrible teasing now I was mainstreamed into a normal elementary school but there's some kids that need to be taken out of this awful high school pressure social cooker you know you can teach a kid all kinds of social skills and it's very important but for some of the people in the spectrum it's kind of a social-emotional relatedness that may not be there now unlike book the unwritten social rules that did was Sean Barron what's interesting in that book is how Sean has a few more social circuits hooked up and he's different and how he there's some things that are the same centric things are the same obsession would stop his with school buses that was similar to some of my obsessions and that kind of stuff was the same but he was more emotionally related than I was he got frustrated by that where I was sort of like the pure techie mind as long as I was out there with the other techy people you know I was really happy and one of the reasons why I put so much emphasis on career is you know the happy techies a techie to get to do cool stuff and you get magazines like Businessweek magazine I've read a lot of profiles in there of people invented all kinds of electronic things and boy it's a spur girl and I think a subscription to Businessweek belongs in every school guide in this office I think this is we told a lovely magazine I just love it because the thing is you've got to introduce kids lots of interesting things how do you know what kind of job that you can do if you don't know about interesting things now Nancy means you did another brain scan and she found though it's more interested in things than I was and looking at pictures of people and what they did this experiment she didn't tell me the hypothesis she started showing me all these weird videos of people airplanes flying over the Grand Canyon bridges and apples and all kinds of objects and I'm looking at this where'd you get this 1970s video how many copyright violations do we have on this video and why was I looking at the things because the things told me more information about where the tapes came from and I was trying to figure out what the experiment was all about well the normal person wants to look at the people but the thing is we need to have people in this world and interesting things or you're not going to have any iPods you're not going to have any electricity you're not going to have any computers so a lot of thing you're not going to be music or any art I mean well we would have this is the social yakety acts because when you think about it the really social people they didn't make the first stone spear people on the spectrum are more in details now you can see the big H and the little s is there I'm faster picking out the little letters then picking out the big letters and so are most people with with autism we I got social interaction through shared interest we've got to get kids into school clubs like band chess robotics these kids that are being tortured in high school they need to be taking classes at the Community College I am very very concerned about the lack of science teachers in the public school systems yeah but you know where there's great science teachers there's your local community college because you have to have a degree in chemistry and teaching the local community college but you only have to have a teaching certificate and my grade science teacher that really helped me my mentor science teacher he was a NASA space scientist you know mentors that can get a kid interested some of the most successful Asperger's in Silicon Valley the parents apprentice them into the field at age eight programming is introduced and I just are pulled into that field and they're in there with all the other people that think programming is really cool well there's a lot of cool stuff out there a lot of people wonder what makes Google work what makes yeah-hoo work what is that what's the size of seven Costco stores and it's really really cool well search engines don't just come out of your computer there's an electronic library hundreds and thousands of computer servers in there it's like hundreds of thousands of PC guts on this building and they're all wired together massively parallel I'm like my way yeah that is like super super super cool that was an article that was in Fortune magazine you know there's all kinds of interesting things and we need to getting a lot of interesting things into the into the school libraries like science and nature science has a wonderful thing called net watch and every week they review about three fantastic scientific webpages you know that are just on every kind of different subject you know if you'd only expose kids to interesting things then how I wanted to get I'd rather haven't get all with server farms then obsessed with video games like video games there's only one thing I like them to do with video games is learn how to program I'm not that interested in having them play them I'm very interested in having a program now the problem is I'm the kid would be addicted to video games and I don't have the math skills to program them so we need to be limiting the video game playing to an hour a day we've got to start thinking when a kid's like 10 years old especially these high end high smart kids what are they going to do when they grow up and the thing is you don't learn skills instantly it took me three years to learn my cattle handling stuff that doesn't happen just overnight well let's show you a little glimpse inside the boy the thing it's like really wild look at the electricity it takes to run it well that's a lot of power boards there I can run maybe four mega meet plants off of all the power boards tasting one server farm somebody's going to figure out how to make this more energy-efficient the electronic library is a real energy Pig and somebody's going to have to figure out how to change that that's going to be the Asperger mind it's going to do that you know what I look that and I go home as heavy electricity and that's like way cool you know some of the best social life I ever had was working on construction I loved sitting around the trailer and we just discussed bullying things not a really good member of a little boys club and the things we get laughing really hard about really really inappropriate things that not going to discuss here but all I can say is we laughed so hard the trailer almost fell over and it was really fun I'm very concerned today about all the bad behavior on TV sports people behaving badly these mean nasty shows I hate that hate hate that Donald Trump's show you're fired thing I hate Survivor I mean what happened to cooperation and getting people to cooperate now I like that show like you know extreme house makeover that show I like because you know some low-income person or something is getting that you know but we need to be teaching values you know when I was a child I didn't see grown-ups behaving badly on TV I didn't see sports but figures behaving really badly and getting away with it movies today don't have clear-cut values about right and wrong when I grew up they're very clear-cut values about good and bad with Superman and The Lone Ranger but good guys and bad guys now all this may sound really corny but these things made a really big impression upon me and we need to teach positive religious values let's say simple things like you help the poor you me a kind person and you know you might try something like ghetto what would Jesus do keychain and let's think of good deeds you can do concrete positive things let's avoid all the negativity you do not want the Asperger mind going into that because the Asperger mind is a tendency to dwell on the negative we've got to work on the positive good things concrete good things you can do like you know build houses for people or you know work in a food kitchen things like that a big believer that ot and sensory integration is part of a good program do things like pressure like swinging like balancing activities right while you're doing your ABA and sometimes it helps the speech to come out especially the balancing the swinging and the pressure you know here's here's a teacher working with a kid and and and somehow these activities stabilize the rebel in how they work but it does it's just amazing and here's my squeezing machine when I got into puberty I started having absolutely horrible horrendous anxiety attacks terrible anxiety attacks they worsened as I got older and I noticed that when candolyn squeeze chute they kind of relaxed so I put the squeezing thing pressure is calming the anxiety tax will work and eventually in my early 30s I got them under control of medication I was one of the people that had to take medication I just done wouldn't function without it there's other people that don't need the medication it's very very variable I cannot emphasize that enough there's the front view of the machine I think it's very important that these touch desensitize little autistic kids because feeling that nice feeling of being held helps you to have positive nice feelings and when I was a little kid I didn't like being helped but gradually you can just work on desensitizing remember firm pressure is calming light tickle touches alert you want to use firm pressure now this is a rule system I still live with today I've taken all the world's rules and I've made them into four categories you got really bad things if you want to have a civilized society you got to control things like killing people burning down buildings wrecking stuff and stealing then you have it courtesy rules let's help people to get along all societies have those like manners and that kind of stuff then you have a legal but not bad this is where you can break some rules especially stupid bureaucratic school rules but then there's some other rules that are very very specific to the society I call them sins of the system well you know like drug offenses well some states is ten years in the slammer for some drug offense where you going to shoot somebody and you might be having less years in the slammer that doesn't make any sense their rules with draconian counties with no logic boy you don't touch the sins of the system it's just that simple you're going to be in tons of trouble and something that the sin of the system here is nothing maybe over in some other country they're very very society specific you know meanst I had many autistic traits Einstein be diagnosed autistic day no language until age three what happened to iron stein today this is a nice book cuts of Future horizons book Asperger's and self-esteem it's about famous scientists and musicians that probably had Asperger's then it's available on amazon.com and I think it's a great book for teenagers it's being teased and tortured to see that yep a lot of these other famous people there's also a book called I wolves it's about Steve Wozniak the inventor of the Apple Computer the first personal computer let me tell you he said his relationship with his dad was engineering engineering and more engineering he really emphasizes the mentor teachers this is not a social book people that want to be social are going to hate this book but if you want to understand it was the mindset of you know my kind of you know autistic ass be kind of mine I thought was a lovely book and I'd especially recommend reading the first half you know the childhood years lots of tricks lots of pranks and things and a kid who would have gotten them tons of trouble today I'm you know if he hadn't been mentored now there's a NASA satellite Assembly Building I like to call it the world's biggest shouldered workshop that's socially challenged how do we prepare people for employment we've got to start teaching work skills early I had jobs Naz early I had a seamstress job when I was 13 internships in college I've seen people with on the spectrum graduating college don't get jobs we've got to start getting interns you start learning things like being on time doing what the boss tells you to do mentors you got the visit interesting workplaces bring all the trade magazines into the school library so kids can be exposed to interesting jobs from Dairy two computers to banking to baking you know whatever Wall Street Journal has all kinds of good social stories on how to behave at work in it because even the normal people need that now they didn't used to me that the other thing that I had to do is I had to sell my work not my personality and I sold jobs by making portfolios of my work pictures and drawings of jobs and I have a book called developing pounds and they get on the whole job thing and you know making a good portfolio because you got to work on developing a skill that other people value and want and one of the things you got to do for being weird is you got to get really good at that skill people respect talent and talent attracts mentors you know I have a typical family history for generations the bankers on the father's side my grandfather on the mother's side mit-trained engineer Simon baron-cohen has found this two and a half times as many engineers family history of people with autism anxiety and depression both sides the family visual thinking skills on the mother's side food allergies on my dad's side Asperger's traits on the father's side and intellectual giftedness definitely on mother's side of the family very very typical family history I was not a regressive type lot autistic I was a type where there were some problems right from the start with sensitivity to touch and my language came in gradually and slowly let's get kids interested in things like Lego Mindstorm clubs you know this is the kind of thing that teaches engineering and job related you know mechanical and programming skills I want outside of them obsessed with this than with video games because it's it teaches definite things they've been useful at work let's take advantage of our educational resources our community colleges there's all kinds of wonderful courses in community colleges I just talked to a parent in Colorado where her son is taking art classes at the local community college she got him out of the high school been the best thing that ever happened technical schools you know electricians and plumbers where should we ever shorted to him that's a good jobs you know there's some visual thinkers and be really good at that online classes University classes let's take advantage of these things but the thing is the kids got to realize the grown-up privilege to take a grown-up course he must not interrupt class he must not send goofy emails to an online class and one of the things I was able to do was rise to the occasion and act grown-up in working on on something grown-up there's the plant where I started my career you know how I got in I met the wife of their insurance agent I'm not kidding you never never know who is going to open up the door and she liked my hand and broidered shirt as it was not it because his computer embroidered the thing is I was wearing the portfolio but I didn't realize it it's just that simple hey let's look at jobs or visual thinkers graphic arts and drafting hardware selling up all the computer hardware auto mechanic fixing computers hand crafts photographer animal trainer these are all in the talents book they're also on a website called autism org autism org it's got these jobs on it how about the music and math minds math teacher scientists chemists statistician physicist engineer these are little things they'll work mill the music and math minds can't Excel it now how about our verbal guys journalist librarian anything with record-keeping analyzing stocks and bonds bookkeeping jobs special ed jobs they're all things that they could be good at taking care of inventory we've got to find things that are going to use their area of strength like there's a special kind of mathematical thing in banks called derivatives I don't even know what they are but is there some kind of financial thing they got to do this fancy math for it and maybe some people would be just great sitting in the backroom and over a computer doing derivatives or figuring out risk in insurance actuaries figure out insurance risk these are bad jobs even but people like me multi-tasking I have a terrible short-term memory I cannot remember long verbal strings of information I need directions in writing like when I had one of my first jobs milking cows I was so thankful that the directions for cleaning the milking machines were written down and were on the wall I would have been a lot of trouble if the directions had not been on the wall so I could always go back and refer to them cashier in a busy restaurant that's not going to be the job for me big big disaster how about nonverbal people find something they can do you know shelving books stocking shelves in stores sorting jobs you know you gotta figure you'd find something that they're good at doing okay now there's a gorgeous picture somebody on the spectrum made but moderate functioning no computer tricks here but this person's going to need an agent to sell their work I've seen some successful things where the person with autism was making artwork like this then the parents I had set up a business you know selling the work this is no computer tricks it's just on a tripod nice time-lapse just beautiful let's talk about the medication thanks what I want to try to get you to do and you've got good doctors here at the mind Institute one thing lucky you've got here is you've got fantastic doctors but boy I get out into the hinterlands oh man the pharmacology disasters you know somebody's taking ten different things there was no thought put into anything I can't emphasize enough every case is different I want to try to get you to think logically about what you do you know one really important thing is try one thing at a time if you start a diet and ABA at the same time you don't know what worked started drug at the same time you start a diet you don't know what worked then there's a big fight between conventional and alternative medicine I'm sick of it you know sometimes the most sensible thing to do is some sensible combining of the two and I kind of you know obviously a refereed scientific studies the best way to evaluate things but with autism being so variable you know you might only have one in five or the diet works so I have another criteria for evaluating something where I don't have nice scientific papers but you know is I got to have three families where I've not communicated I can talk to and they can convince me that the thing worked and I questioned them in a lot of detail about all the things that was started at the same time I got that for diets I got way way more than free I mean I had a student that would have flunked out of school if she hadn't done wheat free and not casein-free diet and take out the soy and all the sugar a bunch of the sugar out of there's some people that really works it's worth a try you know one in five chance that's going to be worth the hassle to do it it's not dangerous you've got to look at risk versus benefit you know there's some stuff out there that people are doing is kind of dangerous you know cost versus benefit there's stuff out there to rip off on it's just unbelievable evidence of effectiveness we already talked about that scientific paper preferred but there is such a thing is good anecdotal you know I just have Lyme especially on on some of the diet stuff I've got that okay let's say of a nonverbal and you've got some bad behavior like they're biting themselves they're having constant Tantrums the first thing you've got to do is rule out a hidden painful medical problem that has to be ruled out a toothache an earache acid reflux constipation you know a root canal it's gone bad you know those things have to be ruled out then it may be sensory or maybe a new cell phone got brought to the office and that new cell phone hurts our ears and all they gotta do see that fullness are screaming because you never know what is going to go off and change the ringtone on there's no excuse for having a phone that bothers them then it may be behavioural you've got to figure it out then you might want to do some sensory things they may need some medication but you know people get way too one mind we just do ABA or we just do drugs that's just stupid I take much more eclectic approach to things you've got to figure out what works okay here are some behavior causes of severe behavior problems they're frustrated because they can't communicate they do want to get attention or they want to get out of doing something and the behavior specialists are really good at keeping a diary to figure these things out okay now I like to use a military analogy we're going to talk about drugs you get different weapons here that's that's our eyes they're your pistols and rifles you know there's a light weapons usually it's a good idea to start with a light weapons first because I got less side effects you know these are drugs serotonin reuptake inhibitors and I'm the kind of person where antidepressants saved me my early 30s I went on a small dose of an old-fashioned drug Norman not your first choice now it's got some cardiac hazards not your first choice but the thing is I've been on it forever so I don't dare change it let's say you got an older adult there maybe taking two things a moderate dose and then lovely and stable don't that's what the old engineering thing but ain't broke don't fix it but one of the things where these drugs really work is for the ings I had panic attacks and anxiety another thing that people need to do is plenty of exercise they do 100 sit-ups every night I hate every single one of them but I'm sleeping better than other than what I'm doing it want to tell you another little thing about drugs drug companies sell drugs that are on patent and make them lots of money now I don't care about prozac Zoloft any lurkers are off patent which one do you try sometimes you want to try the cheapest one first you try the one your HMO is on and don't try something that a blood relative had a very successful time with don't try something a blood relative hate but I was just going to pick a drug off a shelf probably and pick pack so let's go there's some bad scientific papers on paxil but if you're on it and it's working you stay on can't emphasize that it's right for you that's probably not the best first pick I know a lot of people in the design industry they're on Prozac I mean you know there's a lot of meet plants I've been designed on Prozac but these things compared to some of the heavy artillery have milder side effects don't get tired of dyskinesia you don't gain like a hundred pounds on my stuff you know a really bad side of me so these are the light weapons and these are heavy artillery tanks mortars rocket launchers and the thing is these are on patent so they're pushing them and these drugs have much more serious side effects like weight gain and tardive dyskinesia the Parkinson's shakes they just got our spirit all on approved to five-year-olds and I would like to on about cute when I read the ad for this you know my what's to be sensible the younger the kid the more conservative you'd want to be about medication but a really good principle is is you seven wow factor now we're a spirit all really works is some severe aggression problems but not for two-year-olds Tantrums for you know older child or adult a really good basic principle is you must have some wow factor you probably don't want to start out with heavy artillery first but the problem is the heavy artillery is all patented and I want my light weapons they're all and they're all coming well solve them and still patented but some of the oldies but goodies they're off patent so not interested in selling them they sell the stuff is on pack it's that simple read The Wall Street Journal Wall Street Journal tons of good tells you all about drug companies and but it's not as simple as saying what drugs are evil and we only use the alternative methods it's sometimes a little of each like Donna Williams she used to be totally against medications yeah big talk seven or eight years ago down in Sydney Australia she was doing the Earl and lenses she was doing a special diet but she could not tolerate big convention center and then she added a little teeny teeny dose averse Perl very teeny quarter of a milligram then she could do Convention Center but she still had to do a special diet and her long lenses but a teeny teeny little dose one for starter dolls no she didn't get fat off of that you know house all right you know you better have some wow factor when you go oh wow the stuff really work and you don't let yourself get fat on it 100 pounds of weight gay that's not acceptable and the one that tends to be the worse on that side prexy I have talked to parents where the kid was eating dry dog food on zyprexa obviously you can't do use that but maybe another kid it won't have that effect again things are very variable but if you're having a problem with a weight gain you try something else sometimes you can switch geodon and the method scientific articles are very clear on risperidone the anti anger thing but one of the ways I dealt with anger when I got kicked out of school for throwing a book at a girl and fighting was I switched from anger to crying see I can't modulate emotion so I just switched the crying and then sometimes I can get laughing you know I was always testing on limits testing limits I knew there's one half the neighborhood reqtest I could do really bad destructive stuff like gluing at door shop epoxy but what dare do that anywhere else now this is an important principle you know with all the antidepressants and with the atypicals oftentimes a little teeny dose the big mistake I hear and I have talked that probably a hundred parents on is I'm so sick of us we did really great on a little toast and when we took a big dog he couldn't sleep no agitated and went crazy well there's differences now that drugs are metabolized and some people inspect them these little tiny doses another principle is every time you have a meltdown our problem you don't get more stuff this is where you get into a thinking that's totally illogical and the kids are eight different things and straddling it and they're just throwing stuff at intellect like made of zombie animal that's just terrible you get out in the hinterlands it's disgusting I mean you're lucky to have the mind in stew here and now people aren't going to do awful things like that but boy I can tell you I got in Orlando and I did it talked one time with Margaret Bollman and I was telling her about the hinterlands and she went out to the hinterlands and she says yeah I see I'm really shocked to some of the stuff that's going on here are some principles try one thing at a time that applies to both alternative things and to medications so you know what war you know a medication should have an obvious good effect like wow this really works at easy bit less hyper that's not a good reason for taking a powerful drug if they're like wow the Tantrums are now one a week instead of you know six a day you know that'd be an example a wow factor okay let's say you got one of these kids at the walking pharmacy and getting rid of some of the junk take them off one at a time very slowly and be careful switching brands I've found in my own case I take two drugs now I take more Perman old-fashioned not your first choice probably now and I take daya sad for my Meniere's disease and I found that when I own the generics on the die Assad which is a diuretic that's just a water pill that the cheap junk my grocery store sold didn't work as well as a generic I bought over at the specialty drug store and I want to try generic on or Fuhrman didn't seem to work now the thing is you've got to figure out what dose on the jinyoung stick with the white pill you got the white pills stick with it because there's differences now they dissolve you know the generics are fine but don't be switching find one thing and stay with it and don't expect any drug to give you 100% control is not it's not going to happen now some people especially some of the nonverbals that are having a sort of little epileptic outbursts sometimes from these old things like difficult can really work there's a lot of papers I just recently updated the drug section and thinking in pictures and this is an old cheap one but if you do epilepsy drugs you got to have to do these awful blood tests and you have to do it's half - I know I had an awful thing with one of my friends was getting migraines and they just gave her some free samples from one of the modern epilepsy drugs where you're not splitting on need the blood test well guess what she almost croaked liver damage side eight months later yep alep see drugs are good drugs before you better do your blood tests or you really better do them here's one of the oldies but goodies sometimes for anxiety the beta-blockers they're using those now and PTSD but you know what they don't care about these drugs these are old things old ancient cheapo generics their golf patent who cares about selling these things you know I think the beta-blockers for some of this anxiety and it's be a lot more research done again with the beta blockers but nobody wants a fund research for ancient old unpatentable generics they got to look up your interactions and there's a good book called the pill book very good books is called the pill book it really explains the interaction you got to check interactions with non prescription stuff like cold pills cold pills with sinus medication mess up antidepressants on herbal supplements so you know you got to check out all your interactions and some interactions are nuisance and some interactions are extremely dangerous so you better be checking into it you know our talks on but special diets you know the omega-3s are starting to get some good good science behind them there's some people to respond to some of the vitamin supplements vigorous exercise research is very clear there was a paper just this year in the American Journal of Psychiatry unfused on vigorous exercise and depression weighted blankets or vests or calming you know what's kind of you know use a variety of things but let's be logical about it so just some places where get some other information autism dot-org and then of course got to show books there and they still got a few left out there what I think we're going to do is I want to thank everybody for coming and then we'll do some questions you know of course a few people need to leave there's a parking toy a nightmare out there hello I have a question about you talking about the drugs and interaction and I wanted to know in the hinterland as you said a lot of people have been doing chelation and what is your thought about chelation well one of the problems on chelation is there's a lot of different stuff that people are doing called chelation raising them stuff with IVs that can get pretty dangerous to inoculate stuff with vitamins and some pretty innocuous supplements and then some medications that are sort of medium and that's one of the problems on a key on them on the Mark's safe types of chelation not the dangerous stuff with IVs I got one family with a very medically involved kid with a lot of gastrointestinal problems where it may have had some mild benefit I don't have the other two families I don't I'm not hearing the kind of reports on that that I'm hearing with something like diets almost every family I talk to its confounded by ABA and and the diet which are two things that I know often work you know that's and maybe there's a narrow subgroup in there where it works but the problem is you got like 10 different things are calling chelation - you know where at least something like the special casing a gluten-free diet that's more uniform as to what that is it's more uniform as to what ABA is I have a question about the kids in a general ed setting who tend to pick up the academics and do pretty well but the main problem is just the spacing out get up Construction is kind of spaced out you have to really try to gather them back in to get their attention well some of the times they'll space out when they get sensory overload other times a space out and they just get bored and one of the things on a lot of these problems with the sensory overload these problems get worse them they get tired so I'd recommend doing the really hard work first thing in the morning and the kids fresh and do the more fun easier things in the afternoon but the things that require a lot of sustained attentions you got to remember these interconnecting circuits on it's good still it's harder for them to maintain a tension you know and if you can do things if the kid has visual processing problems and fluorescent lights are bugging them you know then get his desk door by the window or something you know try to you know reduce some of the sensory distractions then sometimes spacing out it's just simply not paying attention to and you said that you had problems with hair washing how did you finally desensitize yourself well I couldn't stand watering my eyes and unfortunately when I was a little kid we were doing all the hair washing in the sink which I hated I found it was a lot easier doing it in the shower because I could put my head back and wash my hair without getting water in my eyes so much and but I still have a towel that I hang right on the door so that I can do dry my eyes several times during the shower and that that helps me and then the other thing is haircuts in a buzzer clipper thing I well one thing's get a buzzer clipper and have at home and get them used to what you know there's a lot of things and kind of work on getting them used to it and I'll have them hold it and I get them used to that sound the use of the feel of it you know and where it isn't just a big shock when you go into the end of the barbershop to get a haircut when you talked about verbal people and have good careers for verbal people when you meeting ought to people that are to be more verbal exam no I'm talking about verbal about verbal thinking where we are they're not a visual thinker they're not a music and math mind but they are there all the other autistic or their or their Asperger they're the ones that tend to be tend to not have obvious speech delay on but they're the kind of the kind of kid that loves history they're not good at drawing and they know all the facts and figures about their favorite movie star or baseball player or weather reports or whatever the thing is that they're interested in what percentage of existing kids are the verbal like well the ones that are tend to be the verbal thinker tend to not be the ones that have you know that the lack speech or have had delayed speech now whether you're going to be a pattern thinker or a visual thinker you've got to look at if the guy's got visual processing problems he isn't going to be a photorealistic visual thinker because he can't get the pictures onto the hard drive you got to get pictures onto the hard drive to be a photorealistic a visual thinker but there's a tendency sometimes for a person to be more auditory attuned or more visually attuned and one thing it's going to affect that is how well their hearing is working or how well their vision is working and the kids that do a lot of flicking like this a lot of looking at the corner of their eye they hate fluorescent lights that hate escalators thought of those kids oftentimes tend to be less of a visual thinker and the more of an auditory learner you know it's going to vary a lot and you can soundly have mixtures of these kinds yep how did you invented squeeze with you well I invented the squeeze machine I was having horrible nerve attacks when I got when I was 16 years old and I noticed that when cattle wanted to squeeze you for their vaccinations that sometimes they just kind of relaxed so I I built a squeezing machine modeled after the cattle squeeze chute because the pressure all over big parts of my body helped to calm me down scared together didn't squeeze machine well I could control it it's really important that the person using it controls it yep I like to ask a question about my four-year-old autistic son and when you say that and he that you didn't have verbal skills until you are three or four that's right what do you mean but my son can verbalize by echoey and he is making more spontaneous words now why is that going anything nice clearer words out yes that's be thankful the kids an echo like that with the clear words are going to learn to speak but the thing is they got to learn it the words have meaning lots of times I think the tone of the voices the words rather than the actual words just start teaching them lots of sight words hundreds of flashcards so he can read perfectly everyone writes thank you the comprehend will start teaching comprehension with very concrete questions I mean let's say you on the Jane went to the store and she bought you know bread and Campbell's soup and you know and I gel then you might ask him that name like the things she bought at the store you know start out very very concrete questions don't ask a question like well why do we need a winter coat or something well you might need a winter coat cause it's cold but I'm just start you know let's say he's reading a story about going to Antarctica don't ask why you need a winter coat ask questions like well how many dogs are on the dog team you know just very very concrete questions how old when you started doing you can remember comprehending what you were saying well I can remember you know four and five years old and I also don't remember sequence like if I watch movies have a real complicated convoluted plot I have a hard time following that you granted my my 14 year old son is very interested in girls and he's an Asperger's kid and I was just curious it could give us some insight as to how you navigated the whole relational experience and work through that I was one of the ones I just totally didn't do it but I know that I know that that is not what's going to work for a lot of people and I would recommend finding a boyfriend or girlfriend where you get shared interests like Abby robotics or it be computers or be science fiction or the you know showing dogs you know whatever the thing is that you like to do so the rule so the shared interest really starts the relationship as a parent I'm watching him be attracted to many neurotypical girls and there's a quite a bit of rejection going on well that's the problem he needs to he probably needs to what says what's he good at doing what's he like to do well then maybe he better go to the computer convention and look for a girlfriend there no I'm serious I'm serious I'm being serious about that because that's where he's going to find a mate it's going to be a lot more appropriate he's following me a whole lot happier with hi I was wondering what your thought is on stage love skimming stimming well I was allowed to do a stimming for an hour after lunch I was not allowed to do it at the table you know like do things like put my fork up in the air and sort of study it that just wasn't allowed I think a kid can have some down time we're allowed to do some stemming but then there's where they're just walking they're flapping you know that sort of stuff and the rest of the time as all the times where they're not going to be allowed to do it okay please join me in giving dr. 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