Moving the Needle on Gender Ideology (Billboard Chris, Andy Ngo, Savanah Hernandez, & more)

whole gender ideology from scratch is a lie honestly we need to abolish the whole thing I say all the time there are two Sexes zero genders and infinite personalities and that captures everybody let me explain to you how this works if I can may I yeah of course here's how this works so woke editors control Wikipedia woke people are everywhere they control Wikipedia somebody will write a blog post or they'll make a comment about let's do example of James Lindsay okay James Lindsay is a conspiracy theorist woke people will edit his Wikipedia page to say James Lindsay is a conspiracy theorist Salon slate the guardian The Usual Suspects will pick up the fact the quote unquote the fact that James Lindsay is a conspiracy theorist they'll cite Wikipedia Wikipedia will then update their page to cite the guardian okay you see how this is escalating and building upon itself from there the splc Southern Poverty Law Center will cite the guardian article saying that James Lindsay is a conspiracy theorist and now Jim is on the hate list that's how the machine works that's an example of a circular institutional organizational capture and to expose that corruption is well that's one of the things we're doing now trying to expose that corruption but I mean it's almost impossible there are just a few editors at the very very top of Wikipedia who control everything and the guy who's constantly going after me and my page he only he's just this this super uh he's just a super wokie so it's infuriating but I'm sure it's happened to you right yes what do they do to you well it's like um I think of one example so Portland Mercury for their blog interviewed somebody pseudonymously so I didn't know who was Mike user at the time saying that I made allegations in me having associations with the far right and it was there was I was never reached to a comment the blog post went out it was very damning headline it was a local thing though National media didn't know but right then reference that in their own pieces and then that now that is in reference in my Wikipedia so and then someone will pick that up in the Wikipedia and it bootstraps well the LA Times review that published the review of my book then reference what uh was referenced cited in my Wikipedia so yeah whenever I'm written about in liberal media it's always a mother described as a far right provocate here or the line is that I have been accused of having ties to the far right which I don't but um I mean I mean after I I was not you for a time I really thought that if I wrote to some of these editors to dispute the characterizations that I would that these Auditors would have the Integrity to either um correct that's their goal their goal isn't to have journalistic integrity or pursue the truth it's to cement The Narrative and promote the narrative in which they already believe so tackling that is a huge all right so anyway so this is not going to go out until after tomorrow but tomorrow we have a big event so just Andy no I have to say billboard Chris I just feel I just have to be respectful Savannah Hernandez the honey badger Matt Thornton um and we're gonna do an event in this Cesspool of a city in Portland State and we're missing James klug here tonight but we are let's get started with him right all right so tell us tell us about what do you what do you want to get out of tomorrow's event what are we going to be doing tomorrow well I'm going to be having conversations which is all I ever do and I just take whatever happens and it's always going to be a win-win because if people leave me alone and I'm able to have conversations that's great I get them recorded I get them up on social media and those get seen Maybe 200 000 times now so it helps to educate people about this subject helps to educate them how to speak about this subject what's the subject you want to educate people about we shouldn't be trying to change the sex of children is it even possible to change the sex of children no of course not but it's not stopping them from pretending it is stopping the development of children with a cancer drug that stops their bodies going into puberty giving them the wrong sex hormones and cutting off certain body parts secrets and I think that what you do so well as well as you highlight and you bring out the radicalization in a lot of these people I've been watching a lot of your stuff everything that happened with you in Canada and I I think they can positively say what everyone in this room has been mobbed attacked physically at one point or another for going out and doing this type of work where we're simply going out we're trying to have conversations um we're just trying to like truly you know with my form of work I just like to talk to people understand the left-wing ideology like hey you know what is your form of work in case people aren't familiar with you so I just do a lot of uh Street reporting I love coming to cities like Portland and I come and I talk to the residents and I'm like why are there people doing drugs in your street talk to me about that that's one of the aspects of the things that I do or I'll go to college campuses I'll talk to you know the younger generation gen Z specifically why they think the way that they do how they got to those conclusions but oftentimes you know as Chris shows time and time again when you really push back against that mainstream ideology and this younger generation has been so radicalized they've been so coddled and put into a safe space as well to where if you push back against them in any way shape or form that's now hate and violence and then you were met with a violent mob every single time I was actually just in New York covering the Trump indictment and um you know you had provocateurs on the right wing side that were trying to stoke violence with the Trump supporters going over calling them racists calling them dumb white people saying kill all white people of course the Trump supporters don't respond but then I go over to the other side and I'm like hey tell me why Donald Trump is bad and then a mob ensues for that simple question so good job mob ensues against you yeah yeah for asking that simple question and Chris's you've been in the middle of it you've been attacked you've been assaulted uh and by and we're in Portland we have the man who's written the gift of violence here the gift of violence yeah so so Matt what is someone supposed to do when they're in that situation and and they're being assaulted or about to be assaulted or I mean what is that and Andy's been in that situation repeatedly tell the mic I'm not sure how well my advice is going to help when you know people are intentionally going out there to to do this kind of work which is important and you have a mob coming after you there's not much you can do about that but ideally you try to avoid the whole situation to begin with but they can't they can't that's a problem yeah so what we have to be as safe as we can be but when you have anarchists running cities like Portland to a certain degree I agree running universities certainly I agree do we simply say okay they win and this should be a job for law enforcement it should be but they're not doing their job but that's definitely what it should be do you know the amount of times I don't know this actually has happened to you Chris because I was reading about it on your Twitter thread but the amount of times that in Texas the state troopers have told me that I need to leave because I am the problem because the mob is upset right that I am standing on the streets of America expressing my constitutional right and I've done what you've done before too where you're just standing there silently with a sign you're not trying to go inside You're simply like here's my message you can read it if you don't like it you can walk away but then again the cops come up to you and tell you that you're the problem that you're inciting them all right and that you need to leave so you know this is a bigger constitutional issue as well and people should be a lot more aware and fearful of where we're at as a country because why is why is it okay to impede on our constitutional rights um because others get their feelings hurt yeah and this is a question of just right and wrong when you're so right about an issue which we are on this issue you couldn't be more right this is about good versus evil and we need to be able to have honest conversations about this now if a mob wants to come and get violent with me it's easier for these police officers just to get rid of me and they've arrested me after getting assaulted before than it is to deal with the mob right but that's just lazy policing and we're dealing with a philosophical issue here do we just allow this to happen or do we take a stand people will say oh I'm just inviting the Violence by going into some of these places no I'm going there to have a conversation people get hostile with me that's their responsibility it's not my responsibility oh let me ask you what if I happen to expose it at the same time let's Linger on that that has some power let's Linger on there so are the same people telling you that you're inviting Violence by having a sign are they the same people who tell you or who would believe that a woman who is raped asks for it if she dressed a certain way right I mean those are the same people yeah of course they would say no that's not the case that's the fault of the violent perpetrator so somehow it's your fault yes yeah and it because I'm saying that we should be sterilizing children the queer resource Society at Portland State University came out of the statement queer Resource Center sorry at Portland State University came out with a statement saying that I was instigating and they're going to show radical resistance by leaving me alone and for the triggered students they can go and eat cotton candy do arts and crafts and get stick-on tattoos no no coloring books coloring they can have coloring books for people 18 to whatever 30 or they're going to sit down in a room and make coloring yeah and they said I was trained to stay calm trained trained like I've got some sort of special seal ability where I can just have rational conversations with people part of what's happened here is we've allowed a conversation to get hijacked and for people to conflate words with violence which are two completely separate things obviously and that's very dangerous thing to do and you combine that in a country where we've allowed mobs to run free even when they started tearing down statues I was concerned about that and people are like well it's just this what are you worried about the Statue I'm not worried about Statue I'm worried about a mob you've now allowed a mob to gather and run through downtown in one way or another it's difficult for law enforcement everybody else to deal with that and so no words aren't violence and no you can't allow mobs to gather violent mobs and we have to it's really that simple but yeah when government fails to do its job and policing fails to do its job we have to create awareness about this so part of what got me going wasn't just the child abuse that's going on it's the Erasure of our freedom of speech it's this whole societal shift towards these people call themselves anti-fascists but really they're just straight up fascists and we need to be able to talk about controversial issues we should be able to talk about them on a University campus more than anywhere but in the exact opposite that's now the place where it's you're least likely to be able to have these conversations so uh we're living through um I guess the consequence of reality of cultural dominance from left-wing ideology part of that has institutionalized in my view Marcus's repressive tolerance which is basically that right wing views should be silenced by any means necessary and um so you know I've been beaten several times uh not for activism but actually just going out with the camera and documenting things in public and what I see over and over is that um the ex violent extremists who are carrying out the violence uh me against me and other journalists or even women sometimes even children on a rare occasion they do it because there's no social consequence for their actions their actions are actually lauded it's celebrated you can see over and over the people who make threats against people um like those sitting around these tables those who have committed violence against us they're actually many people on social media who praise that and so um I mean it kind of create it creates an incentive to take militant violent direct action to silence opposing views and then it and then when you have that within a structure let's say you have a left-wing jurisdiction like Portland OR Seattle Berkeley or New York where criminal Acts or not prosecuted when there's a tinge of sort of a left-wing motivation behind it then we have this thing where people can carry out acts of violence with essentially impunity and um I've been talking about this for years and I don't really know what the solution is I'm very very concerned when people who care a lot about Free Speech you know they go into Portland OR they go into other places and then I you know my my message is always like it's worse than what you what what you've seen on the videos like when you are alone you are surrounded or even when police are with an eyesight you can be I was beaten for the first in 2019 when I was beaten that was actually basically in front of the Central police station no help ever ever arrived so it's um you know I don't tell like activists to like silencers also stay away but just realize that um there are places in America where First Amendment and constitutional rights are um essentially not um applicable the documents are there yes but the Norms of the society is that um is anti-free speech and anti-freenive expression Portland is Ground Zero for all of that what's happening in Portland can happen anywhere I was assaulted in front of a church with probably three different police cruisers watching it happen past men pastors from the church why this is in the context of the Jane's Revenge yeah attack yes yeah yes and I didn't realize um that was going to look like I just went up there knowing that they were going to um possibly attack what was supposed to be a Pregnancy Resource Center so I showed up and then figured out oh they're coming to this it's a secondary building of a church that I actually had attended when I lived in Portland and um I they're boarding up the windows and I see police officers everywhere and I thought I might actually be safe but no um no they allowed the mob not to just assault me one time but two separate times they marched away and they marched back were they in Black Block were they in all black um the people who assaulted me were in Block so the police were feet away yards away I'm just I'm just really surprised that there's no nobody just takes a gun and just shoots all these people well that's that's my concern is it's not just that no they're not doing anything but it creates this vacuum and what happens when people regular people and I guess it wouldn't be regular people that would just respond to it but there's violence being allowed to happen to regular people I mean I'm not an activist I just go out to document I have opinions but I'm not saying anything really when I'm doing it somebody is feels they will fill that vacuum and so what I guess that's so why is it that I hear over and over the cops don't do anything I mean why because they're not politically supported that's right yeah local politics has been completely infiltrated so the reason why the police don't do anything is because look at what happened in the George Floyd situation at the end of the day George Floyd did die from a fentanyl overdos in his system and Derek Chauvin did do what he was trained to do that is a point-blank fact is it I think so it is and if you actually go and you look at the facts of that case even the uh coroner had initially said that he died of an overdose and then facts were changed as the mob got angrier and angrier and also well so so just so I'm trying to say so I know what it's like firsthand actually to have a knee placed on you like that um and I mean I'm I'm I'm not denying that the death I'm not denying the facts of it but okay so so let's let's just bracket that for a second so I'm trying to figure out why is it that a woman gets assaulted and the police do nothing other people have been assaulted so did the police do nothing and you're saying that they're not politically supported and you're agreeing with him and I'm trying to figure out like what what does that mean so like people like if someone is watching this they're like oh what do you mean they're not politically supported like what's the response like what do you mean by that so they're procedures and and I I mean I don't have anybody that would go on the record that I could use their name but I have talked to the police there are procedures that are put in place make it extremely difficult for the rank and file to do anything they get their orders from above okay but wait a second I'm just trying to understand so a woman is assaulted the police watch what possible procedure would you need well the thing is is these police are looking at that situation from the standpoint of if I step into this situation and I have to use deadly force because the mob starts coming after me and I accidentally shoot a minority I'm going to jail my family's life is ruined and I my life is ruined so we have a police force that now is but to be quite honest uh that is like the natural thought process right because even the average American cannot even uh Express their Second Amendment right to defend themselves without being put through this entire judicial like look what happened with Kyle Rittenhouse if it wasn't for independent journalists on the ground he would be in jail right now for expressing his constitutional right to defend himself Peter to answer your question uh part of it so the antifa riots and violence started once Trump was announced as the winner of the 2016 election we had if you may remember three nights of rioting which is more than anywhere in America uh at that point going onwards was that was the beginning point of the current manifestation of the anti-fo violence in 2017-2018 there were regular brawls that were happening between antifa and right-wing groups in downtown a lot of these videos went viral you may remember them from years ago so in 2017 and 2018 police used to act Portland Police used to respond in big numbers in downtown and try to keep the side separate the entire media establishment and all everyone in city council put out a narrative understood that the Portland Police were protecting the fascists and were intentionally seeking to injure racial Justice protesters Ted wheeler himself was part of it spreading this claim about systemic racial bias in police and he's a police commissioner we have that old system in Portland where the mayor doubles that's the police commissioner I don't have firsthand evidence of this I just I'm just um speculating based on uh the variables at the Times lot of pressure was placed on the Portland Police to not be seen as any way favorable to right-wing protesters and by favorable that could mean actually making sure that people weren't being injured finding a way for right-wing protesters to safely go in and out of a dangerous situation actually you can look back a lot of stories where in these videos that were deceptively put out Portland Police escorting fascists to safety Portland Police safely escorting fascists over the bridge and so I mean all of this affects morale in the police department and just kept getting worse and worse until um I assume at some point um it did seem around 2019 that something in the commands the instruction that went out was actually to really pull back on police responses we also had three different police Chiefs in a period of six months so it was also and then George Floyd happened and um so it's not just Portland though right it's the worst here but this is systemic everywhere this is all over Canada I've had run-ins with police in Ottawa Montreal Vancouver where I've been assaulted at my arm broken and police did nothing in any of those instances I've been punched painted on spout on had my car keyed and my signs destroyed in front of a dozen police officers in Ottawa and they did nothing and in Montreal when my arm was broken they waited so long that they lost all the street footage and I told them they were going to lose the street footage but they waited that long anyway and then they told me there was nothing they could do unless I gave them the names of my masked and hooded attackers yet they could have just followed them on the street footage because these cameras everywhere to see if they got into a car get the license plate see if they walked into an apartment building and the reason these people are probably known to police in the first place the reason that they just don't want to deal with left with these people because now sometimes to the district attorneys I don't know if it's the same in Canada but I know for example here in Portland right the cops will arrest somebody liberal District Attorneys will let them out the next day and so it's this constant cycle of the police re-arresting people and the police go why am I going to keep arresting this person if I know the law isn't even going to be applied right and on my issue this is painted as right wing this isn't right-wing I've had I don't know how many conversations 15 000 to 2500 hours out on the streets 90 of the population all political Stripes agree we shouldn't be doing this stuff to kids Democrats come and stand out with me all the time Democratic voters are switching parties up in Canada liberal voters are switching but they don't switch to the conservative party in Canada because even the conservative MPS are all pushing this but this isn't a left-wing issue it shouldn't be left versus right this is just about truth and what is that truth well the truth is that these kids who are going to these gender clinics are almost all struggling with other Mental Health comorbidities about half these kids autism spectrum we know from the Tavistock which was the biggest gender clinic in the world in England 35 of the kids had moderate to severe autism never mind the mild cases these are kids who are in foster care we have one psychologist who works for the British Columbia Ministry of Children and Families who's transitioning over a thousand kids including 500 in the Foster system he admits this in a talk that he gave that's almost 10 of all the kids in state care are being transitioned we have Jamie Reed this whistleblower from the Washington University transgender clinic in St Louis where she worked for four years as case manager she's a woman who says she's politically left of Bernie's she calls herself a queer woman and she's married to a trans man and she confirms all these things that we're saying this isn't left versus right this is just about truth and we have Progressive countries like Sweden Finland Norway England where the medical boards all conducted a review and found that there was no evidence to support transitioning kids yet yet the medical organizations in North America refuse to conduct and so the people who are commuting violence against you while the police watch they're not in alignment with the majority of people they don't even know what they're protesting they just know they just know that I have an unapproved opinion they know nothing about this subject and it's a mob and it's like a party let's go get the bigot but they know nothing about it because as soon as I ask them a question they never can answer anything they can't tell me what a trans child is they have no definition for it they can't tell me what a gender identity is they don't believe that kids are being given puberty blockers on their first deployments they don't believe that surgeries are happening on children they've literally done no research so if I get someone one-on-one I can have a decent conversation with them no matter what if all I do is just say something they agree with yeah that confuses them causes cognitive dissonance where there's now two competing ideas going on in the brain because I thought I was supposed to be some bigot and now I just said that there's no right way to be a boy or girl and if a girl's more masculine are boys more feminine beautiful what's the problem so they get all confused love your kids or who they are exactly so now in that moment of confusion they might go home and actually do some research but almost none of these people know what this issue is about they just fall in line with the mob do you think that there's anybody else that's kind of funding it that's coming after you that's maybe sending people there that has more nefarious motive that's not just totally ignorant I I don't think so I think these are just radical leftists like if you go to a university they find out oh this guy's here billboard Chris is here and then the ones who are part of the lgbtq community or their allies and Ally I hate this word Ally it doesn't mean just agreeing with something it means you have to be active in fighting against whatever it is that this person's standing for which is why it's going to be impossible for them to leave us alone tomorrow because why because it's written into the Creed of the social justice Warrior that they have to come out and actively fight against you they can't just leave you alone that's not being a good enough Ally yeah it's not it's not enough to be anti-racist you have to be actively right Against Racism and fighting in the streets so like these universities because sometimes they bring up blankets from their dorm rooms and hold them up around me they're bed sheets so that people can't see me their only objective ever is to stop conversation let's talk about I I just because I know people are going to be watching this and be like that's BS like that's just simply not I've got a video of it okay so we're gonna link to the video of it and University of Alabama and Birmingham they brought out their bed sheets and they brought up the bed sheet because you have a sign that says what children cannot consent to puberty blockers okay so let's talk about that for a second on your sign is it both sides on one side that's one side the other side I usually have my definition of a dad which is a human male who protects his kids from gender ideology so that one gets people going a little bit okay it's also my most popular song so that's what you have on your sign but you have a few other signs yeah and then people take sheets because they're trying to be allies because they believe what what the words are I'm just trying to do whatever they can violence whatever they can to silence me so they'll surround me they'll blow whistles in my ear I went to Harvard I was standing out at Harvard Square it was the day after I'd had this Boston Children's Hospital protest and I guess some antifa people were following me so next thing I knew some guy came at me from behind he goes hey Chris and I turned around and he's got black mask black hood and he's texting his friends so I didn't want to stay in one location where I can get jumped more easily so I went for a walk and he followed me for two hours and then another guy showed up and then another one and their only objective was to stop me having a conversation they knew nothing about this if someone tried to talk to me they would stand right in front of me yeah that's a defense mechanism that keeps the ideology in place right so I just made them the stars of the show and I started asking them questions and they realized pretty quickly uh oh we knew nothing about this guy I can see it in their eyes they're going uh oh he's embarrassing me we knew nothing about this but now they have to say face they can't just leave right so they're stuck and they have to follow me around for hours but they don't realize they're doing me a favor right they're giving me footage that's going to be seen a million times instead of a hundred thousand times right because you know this the sexiness of these aggressive people cells I guess so it really doesn't matter to me what happens ideally I'd like to have conversations but whatever happens it's all good it's always a win-win and you know Chris um they use the same tactics against me and oftentimes these antifa types like these are big grown men in black block that would even come and they will shove me they will push me I've got mopped by these grown men I have gotten kicked by them I'll be having good conversations with college students where we're not even debating I'm just you know talking with them I'm like talking about why you think that way uh you know how did you come to this conclusion an antifa member will walk up to the mid conversation and say don't talk to her she's a fascist and because the group think because the mob mentality is so strong they will immediately shut down and then they'll even turn around and get mad at me like I've had people say FU don't speak to me and I say okay that's fine we're done talking and then I'll go walk you know over to talk to somebody else and then they will start enjoying the mob and then shut down anybody else even those who want to speak and you're a felt woman and you know I mean you're not a a a a big you know 200 pound you know MMA guy with cauliflower ears right well exactly and that's the thing like that's the radicalization of these people is they're actively supposed to be fighting for women and minorities right minority women women in the United States of America and they have repeatedly attacked me they repeatedly shut me down from doing my job they'd actively use violence against me they tell me all the time that I want to be white so bad that I'm racist that I'm a race Trader like every name yeah yeah so you know I'm sure Chris has been um fair share well I'm a straight white male with blue eyes it's interesting two things did you see that guy uh with the the those actual neo-nazis like there will be in the people like blood and they're in black and red well one where was Auntie for then I didn't see this well I mean there are these like actual militants uh but they antifa will come for like you or you or me or you they're not coming for him right I mean I you know they're not coming for the people who are literally they're literally flying SWAT stickers on a flag but they'll go for the old woman or they'll go for you or they'll go for there's probably antifa dressed up flying the flag to begin with yeah well we're doing anyone who does what these people do look this is evil they're not just confused when you bully a woman like Savannah and you're a grown-up male yeah you got a screw loose yeah but this is this is evil and she's absolutely right when someone tries to talk to us this happens to me all the time there might be a mob and I might get one person who wants to talk to me yeah as soon as they start talking someone else comes along Whispers in their ear don't talk all right what are you so afraid of yeah and so I'm really passionate that we need to keep pushing back against this we need to keep talking because we cannot let this culture Thrive this has to be stopped and it will be stopped and there is pushback happening against it but the normies out there who make up 95 of the population who just go about their lives work come home feed their kids play with the kids go to bed they're waking up to these cultural shifts most people just have no idea what to do but we have to keep pushing back because if we don't push back we lose what made these countries great truly freedom of speech the Constitution of the United States of America is what made this country great and these people want to rip it up and I think the fact too that we can't even rally around protecting children not only in the United States but as a collective worldwide just goes to show how far we've degraded how much the United States has been subverted because you know if you do look back um at how to subvert a country right you target the generations uh the younger generations and it usually takes and the institutions of Education yeah exactly educate the Next Generation and then ultimately reshape the entire country and that's what's currently happened we've been subverted now for probably like what this has been like a 10 20 maybe 30 years much longer than that exactly and now you have my generation and gen Z who are not actively out on the streets shutting down freedom of speech actively fighting against their own rights and freedoms it's it's an absolute clown show yeah the these far leftists think the word Liberty itself is a dog whistle for fascism they hate the American flag they think it's a white supremacist symbol yeah it's it's we can't allow this to continue so I have kids I don't I had a good life I'm 47 years old I had a great upbringing really when you look back at the history of mankind the years I grew up as a kid maybe some of the best time in history yeah and civilizations rise and fall this one's on the downfall right now and I don't want this for my kids so that's why I'm doing what I do it's hard to be optimistic though I think um yes there have been a number of legislative wins in certain states in the U.S but like let's just look at Canada um your culture has shifted radically in One Direction and you're you're the liberal government has been able to uh either path um legislations or propose certain bills that are I don't know if they can ever really be undone like I'm thinking of bills um protecting into law gender uh um expression and things like that and and so um the Canadian MPS unanimously passed a bill it's called conversion therapy now to help your girl feel comfortable as a girl they say that's conversion therapy yes if a girl says she's a boy that's okay do you want to help her feel comfortable as a girl and not become a lifelong medical patient that's considered conversion therapy so basically if you parent your own child as opposed to the state doing it right if you don't want her getting a chemical castration drug you can lose your child to the state or in British Columbia we have a law called the infant act which states that parental approval is not needed for any medical procedure at any age and so we had this dad who went to jail last year because at 13 he couldn't stop his daughter from getting testosterone at BC Children's Hospital and the endocrinologist this guy named Brendan Hirsch I have this letter he wrote a letter to the dad saying he could be a friend an advisor to his own daughter but he couldn't intervene in this medical process which will result in her sterilization she'll have to get a hysterectomy when she's a teenager because prolonged testosterone use causes vaginal and uterine atrophy and these girls or young women have to get their uterus cut out sometimes they're cutting out their ovaries as well so now they can never produce estrogen for the rest of their life so now they're forever reliant on either testosterone or estrogen if they decide to detransition this whole thing is totally insane but I do have optimism though because I think this is still a minority who are pushing this they've just managed to bully the great majority and it's the media as well it's the propaganda especially in Canada we don't have conservative media sources we have some smaller ones there's a lot more conservative median States but the people are waking up it's just hard when even your politicians on the conservative side won't act as opposition for this so I think we need leaders to rise up but again in Canada that's almost impossible because if someone like myself wanted to run for politics for the conservative party for example they wouldn't let me it's not like in the states where you can primary someone no they wouldn't let you why I wouldn't be allowed to run I would have to receive approval from the conservative nomination committee before I could even run as a conservative and they would never do that so I could run as an independent but Independents have no power and it's almost impossible to win unless you're some huge name because you have no money and you have no but your billboard Chris I'm still nobody I don't even have a Wikipedia page not yet I was just gonna say just wait they might come one day but see and that's the importance too of the censorship right whether it's in real life or online because a lot of the realities of transition surgery are coming out a lot of deep transitioners are starting to come out and say hey you know what I wish that I had waited to get this done because my life and my body are permanently altered and you're seeing more and more of these stories and that's why for a long time you had Twitter YouTube Facebook Instagram censoring all of this and that is why you have um you know the mobs that are on the ground because it's harder to censor somebody in real life right but you can still go and hold the sign on the streets of the United States of America and maybe go change some change some hearts and Minds in real life but that's why the mobs are important that's why they're so radicalized and activated because they have to try everything in their power to keep this truth from coming out to keep the reality of transition surgery especially for children from coming out and just to offer a bit of a white pill last August this isn't long ago what are we we're in May so that's nine months ago I was meeting with some staff from the house oversight committee most powerful Committee in Congress Republicans didn't have control in but they didn't want to touch this issue of child transition when it comes to the trans issues they just wanted to talk about the sports men and women's sports because that's an easily winnable issue because you've got Leah Thomas six foot four inch Leah Thomas lapping women in the pool stealing the gold medals and that was an easy win politically but this issue of child transition it's a little more complicated but what happened last August I tweeted all these videos from Boston Children's Hospital that their own gender Clinic had produced and they went viral because it's this doctor saying that it's things like a little girl trying to pee standing up a boy who doesn't want to get a haircut kids playing with the opposite gender toys or trying on their siblings clothing this is a sign your child's trans and can be treated and they see kids as young as three a child will often know that they are transgender from the moment that they have any ability to express themselves and parents will often tell us this we have parents who tell us that they're kids they knew from the minute they were born practically and actions like refusing to get a haircut or standing to urinate trying to stand to urinate refusing to stand to urinate trying on siblings clothing playing with the quote opposite gender toys things like that there is more and more a group of adolescents that we are seeing that really are coming to the realization that they might be trans or gender diverse a little bit later on in their life so what we're seeing from them is that they always sort of knew something was maybe off and didn't have the understanding to know that they might be trans or have a different gender identity than the one they had been assigned so that is a growing population that they are that we are seeing and that's being recognized as being trans and able to be treated and everyone saw these videos and they went these people are nuts this is like a cult because I think everyone kind of thought these kids are struggling and yeah these gender clinics are probably doing some weird stuff but they didn't really know what they were doing so there were those videos there were the videos about the phalloplasties and the vaginoplasties and there were the pictures of these women's forearms where they take all the flesh out of their forearms to Fashion this into a phallus and it started this wave of people looking into other children's hospitals and now all of a sudden really in a matter of weeks the whole conservative movement all the podcasters all the media we're talking about this Non-Stop and now even today on Twitter there's more and more big personalities with huge followings all the time talking about this every day and it educated people because that's what we need to do we need to educate people and now where we had no one wanting to talk about this we've got 20 Republican states pushing through legislation to stop it in a short period of time let me ask you a question so something I thought about doing but I haven't done because I I don't want to go to prison is I've thought about putting out for child porn I've thought about releasing a video uh a video that I myself I will fully admit am not capable of watching of a young boy or girl probably a boy would be better but undergoing this procedure I think it's so ghastly I think it's so horrifying at every level that you talk about waking people up that would do it but that's that's not even child porn that's equivalent to like snuff porn but I think if people were to see because I think I think you're right I think that there's a kind of a disassociation like they said gender affirming care right right yeah yeah linguistically protect it so but I think if people were to actually see that that might change the way people conceptualize right what's going on well just two weeks ago I tweeted out this story my friend Mia from Ottawa wrote the story but it was about a boy at 18 years of age who they were doing this vaginoplasty and what they do is they castrate the boy completely and they invert the penis to form this Neo vagina I'm sorry if this gets grues but because the boy was on puberty blockers his genitals never grew so there's not enough tissue to do the surgery this happens all the time this happened to Jazz Jennings when they did this surgery on him at 17 years of age with jazz they used some of his stomach lining to form the lining the inside of his new vagina but with this other boy and what they usually do is they cut out some of the kids colon well this they did the surgery on this boy there was E coli in the colon it got into his system he developed necrotizing fasciitis and he ended up dying this is all because not just of the surgery but because of the puberty blockers this tweet was seen 19 million times that's a lot that's a lot of conversation starting and a lot of people learning about this and so what's happened now this topic will never go away tomorrow more people are going to know about it than no today and that's going to continue so it is literally a matter of time before we stop all this other countries stopped it the medical board stopped it what we need to happen in America is the American Academy of Pediatrics and the medical association the endocrine Society they're all woke but they can only withstand so much when enough of their own doctors speak up and they are speaking up but they're ignoring them this will one day come crashing to a halt because there isn't evidence to support it and the Democrats the voters don't support this either some of them do most of them don't and when they get educated almost none of them do because even the people pushing this most of them just aren't educated we're not dealing with a million evil people pushing us we're dealing with a million uninformed people pushing this we should talk about age we should talk about hb2002 which paths um in the State House of Representatives last night uh May 1st um that so now it's going to go to the Senate but that uh that bill is uh the language around it is about increasing abortion access and gender affirming care to minors so among things like forcing Medicaid to uh pay for cosmetic surgeries for gender affirming care there's things like removing um any age restrictions on abortion access so um the way the law is written a child of any age can have that surgical have an abortion procedure without a parent or Guardian being notified and attached is the same law as also a child as young as 15 can have um Medical surgical transitioning sterilization at the age of 15 without medical consent I mean I I don't know if it's a silver lining that Democrats put the age of 15 there but um yeah so this is not even Contra this law uh there's not really any pushback in Oregon that I can see I think that the the media propaganda narrative around it is so successful gender affirming care increasing uh what reproductive health care for uh for more people nobody takes an issue with that and Republicans with such a minority in the state and there's not they're not really well organized in a way to actually better inform the public and so Oregon's a super majority Democrat State and it's just um you know yeah this is it's what it's like here we have a big campaign of educating ahead of us and States like Washington and Oregon and California they're going to be last to fix this and then Canada after that but I still hear optimism in your voice and I and I wonder why because we have the truth on our side and you can only suppress the truth for so long and I think too Andy what you feel to realize as well is that when you come out for children it you're invoking the anger of parents at that point like I understand a lot of these liberal activists who might be getting behind a lot of this uh but the reason people are getting really enraged about this topic is because it's their children specifically that are being targeted with this now so I think that's a whole other demographic that previously wasn't as affected um but even going to what you were saying I think the optimism lies in the fact that a lot of parents are waking up to uh the fact that their children are being targeted with this in the education system I mean during covid a lot of parents were listening into what their children were being taught and the rates of homeschooling went up exponentially in this country because parents were like what the hell is going on why is my child being taught this why is my child coming home and telling me that they were they them telling me that they're um now a girl now a boy when that's not their gender so again I think it's really waking up the parents and that's an entirely different demographic from the a single liberal portlanders which again rip to your town I don't like it here I come here to report on the worst of the worst so maybe there's no hope come to the right place yeah you know maybe there's no hope here but I think Portland Oregon does not represent the majority of the United States let me if if I may I'd like to try an experiment if it's cool with you guys I would like to role play a woke person oh no let's do it I did that with Heather McDonald um so let me so let's let me let's try this so this is I'm just going to throw this out to everybody and I'm gonna do violence in the police and everything so do you deny that some children suffer from genuine gender dysmorphia dysphoria dysphoria no gender dysphoria is real it exists now historically this affected one out of tens of thousands sixty thousand point zero six yeah it depends on the time you're looking at but it affected boys a lot more than girls as well like two to one and if you look at all the studies into gender dysphoria more than 80 of these kids with severe dinner dysphoria from a young age yeah when they went through puberty they just grew out of it if you look at the most recent study you followed 139 boys yeah from when they were five all the way to the 20s 87.8 of them grew out of it 63.6 percent grew up to be gay so what what you're doing Mr woke when you're advocating for these drugs for kids because you're harming kids who would grow up to be gay well okay so let's that's enough I'm going to come back to that issue I'm not going to skirt it let's talk about the people the kids who are actually suffering from this condition and all of you Nazis here want to excuse me uh want to you're much too nice yeah I'm still Civil Right am I yelling or punching anybody else you have to call for us to die yes um so what about those kids who don't get actual uh gender affirming care the .06 percent of the kids who suffer from this I think we refer back to that study of what happens when you put a child on puberty blockers then later on in life let's say okay this child doesn't get their gender affirmative care but at that point when they reach 18 years of age then they have the full genitalia to get that transition surgery if they so it isn't isn't that too late because puberty hasn't been blocked yet so they wouldn't a male would still develop like Leah Thomas would still develop those qualities and physical characteristics so are you saying that even though 80 to 90 of the kids would grow out of it that we should just sterilize all of them well I'm saying that uh to be a sovereign individual and have control over your own body autonomy if a 15 year old wants to be castrated who are we to tell them that's not the case well why are we allowed to tell 15 year olds not to drink alcohol or not to have sex with grown adults then I think that at 15 well one your brain isn't fully developed we'll get tattoos or own guns yeah exactly it's like if that stem becomes a slippery slope where it's like okay so are we now going to start allowing children to make decisions for other you don't additionally these kids today most of them don't have gender dysphoria you're talking about the contagion that's right but let me try to answer her question if I may please so I'm going to give you what you're looking for from my argument to remain consistent I think we should lower the age of tattoos gun owning drinking everything to 15. that way we'll be consistent why would you stop at 50. you are a pedophile why stop at 15. why do you have any age of consent at all well would you be willing to compromise if we on your position if we allowed kids to to transition at 15 no would anybody as a Christian woman I think that God created everybody as he intended and again to you know this is something that I thought about it was well because I would say like I am more libertarian so I'm like okay Live and Let Live but when it comes to Children completely different story and you know in Texas they were even trying to bump the age up for transition surgery 225 when the brain is fully developed I don't know if I completely agree with that because I'm like okay 18 I feel like as a society fine you're 18 years old you're an adult you do everything else at 18. yeah it's like okay actually so maybe yeah there's no evidence there's no evidence that this helps even the 18 year olds yeah but there you go again why why would we formulate our beliefs in the basis of evidence why not just formulate the beliefs and the personal the unequivocal personal testimonies the lived experience of these well that's what they'd say right I think so I mean well they don't know they wouldn't have the Continental fashion and they can never fashion an argument that intelligent but no but so so so but we're ignoring the part I mean it is an important part that most of these kids don't have gender gender dysphoria not even as it's defined in the DSM so because it never started with childhood onset okay this is a craze that they're caught up in but all these kids have some mental health comorbidities going on right we're not treating them for those if you read Jamie Reed's report they're sending kids straight from the psychiatric unit to the hospital there was a boy who was sexually abusing dogs they sent him to the gender clinic and they gave him Lupron first appointment but with even with the 18 and 19 year olds so yes you could say adults can do whatever they want with their bodies that doesn't mean doctors are just order takers doctors have sworn an oath to First Do no harm and you never go straight to the most invasive procedure they should be screening for trauma and abuse which is very common and they should be treating these other underlying Mental Health comorbidities First but instead they're just order takers so you you are saying and I don't want to put words in your mouth correct me if I'm wrong I'm trying to understand the argument so you two are saying and you haven't said anything although you've laughed at the points I've made but in my sincere attempt to to model what a woke person would say do you mean to tell me that you think that the some types of lives are better to lead than others yes 100 it's better not to be a lifetime pharmaceutical patient it's better not to be in pain for the rest of your life it's better to not be sterilized well then I think too a big portion is reasonable that's ever an eminently reasonable position but I'm going to attack it anyway go ahead I was just going to say I think one of my major issues with this too is that a lot of the kids a lot of the young adults that are being targeted with this are not fully informed on the decisions that they're making they don't know the long term they don't know that they could potentially be sterilized what do we hear consistently puberty blockers can be reversed which is not true you know transition can be okay so there's only two arguments from them well I'll tell you what they are okay literally okay kids will kill themselves if you don't let them transition right and puberty block is a reverse okay so so let's take on the second one if I may all right um would you be willing to change your position if uh if if the children were informed honestly that this is irreversible so no of course not the consent forms themselves State we don't know the long-term impacts not only of the puberty blockers but of the cross section so they are informed well it states right on the consent forms that they sign that we don't have the information long term so if we don't even have the information how can they give informed consent it's impossible but we're asking children who still believe in magical thinking that a big red fat man flies across the sky and drops presence under the tree we expect them to be able to make these decisions about permanent fertility about not being able to have a family reduce reducing your dating pool to zero never having intimacy never going to be able to have an orgasm we expect a 10 year old boy to be able to make a decision that he can never have an orgasm we've got Marcy Bowers who's a man who identifies as a woman he's the president of wpath the world professional association for transgender health they write what are called the standards of care that these Children's Hospitals can follow he's on camera I can show it to you admitting that none of the boys who started on puberty blockers at tanning stage two which is like 10 11 years old none of them literally zero as adults have ever had an orgasm an observation that I had that every single child who was or adolescent who is truly blocked Tanner stage two is has never experienced orgasm I mean it's it's really about zero these are the of course these are just assigned male at Birth so trans feminine and it's because they never in their lives are exposed to testosterone Jazz Jennings who Society celebrated his transition on TV which is disgusting he's never had an orgasm it's in his 20s now he gained 100 pounds he's like 300 pounds so he's got that going for him now about the Jazz story too is that because I just went down this whole Jazz rat hole and he he's like super super upset and depressed and his parents and all Society keep telling him as soon as you transition hopefully the depression will go away his mom was like oh I hope that the depression is going to be gone he transitions he's more depressed and has more anxiety afterward and again it's just a lot of these kids are sold this lie that the surgery is going to be a quick fix to their depression when again it ties more into mental issues at that point two three four weeks ago jazz is on camera crying because he still doesn't feel right inside and his mom was like don't say that you're gonna scare people or I think that was actually about um his transition surgery and it he was like oh the stitches came undone and everything came undone and his mom was like don't say that you're gonna scare people well there was there's that he had to have two more surgeries but now he's mentally saying you know he's still well maybe maybe uh it's because they affirmed a mental illness they affirmed a delusion and when you affirm a delusion in a four-year-old which is what he was well it continues on now you're making it hard for me to argue against that at four okay so that's that's particularly difficult okay but see the way you argue against us at this point is by just saying you're a fascist you're not no but I'm trying to steal man it I'm I'm really I really am trying to steal man I do that too so I ask people questions yeah let me tell you why I think that's so important I think it's incumbent upon rational sane people to make an argument better than people who don't have either the argumentative capacities or to be very blunt with you have been damaged by the educational system sure so they're not capable of it they're they're cognitive faculties of atrophied so if I were to steal man your argument yeah okay so puberty blockers you think are important because if we don't stop your physical development then you're going to appear more like your sex which is going to make it harder for you to pass as the opposite sex later that's the whole reason for these puberty blockers because otherwise you're not going to pass yeah as well that that's one of them and I think that the other one is the mental health of the individual well the other one is that if we don't transition you and start you on this process because you're not passing and because you're born in the wrong body right then you're going to be suicidal and have worse yeah well okay we can do away with that because that's just a lie but that's this is all they say literally it's literally all they have suicide is every single time the first thing that comes out of the mouth and puberty blockers are reversible which they're not that's a sales pitch now sure now when I'm talking to them I always try to find a source of agreement so they say puberty block is a reversible I'm not just going to go no they're not I say well sure if they went on puberty blockers for three months or so and came off not too much time done puberty would be really true well sure Peabody would resume so what there's no there's no harm I mean I'm not a medical well there's gonna be three months of no puberty but no you'll be fine I mean it's not ideal I was under the and I am not that's why I never talk about covert or anything Miracle no one should listen to me about medical stuff zero yeah um I was under the impression that the body has a natural homeostasis and for example when you go on testosterone the body then manufactures less testosterone right so more that's why people who who use um steroids bodybuilders Etc they need to continue keep taking testosterone right because their own body stops making it correct so what this drug does the technical term for this drug these are gonadotropin releasing hormone agonists or analogues okay same thing they stop the pituitary gland from releasing luteinizing hormone and follicle stimulating hormone okay these in turn trigger the testes to produce testosterone or the ovaries to release estrogen Okay so they've given this drug this drug actually has FDA approval for a condition called precocious puberty which is where a girl younger than eight or a boy younger than nine is going into puberty oh wow so if your six-year-old's got some rare condition they would give this drug maybe for a year and then take them off so that normal puberty could result now it does take a while for the endocrine system to kick back in here none of this is ideal I don't even agree with that okay but there's not permanent damage yeah I've got three months no no all right it's not ideal But but so practice what happens though is these kids who start on puberty blockers they're already sold on the whole process psychologically they bought into puberty lockers too cross sex hormones and surgeries we know statistically from a few different gender clinics 98 of kids who start on puberty blockers go on to the Cross sex hormones together these are sterilizing kids sending teenage girls into menopause now if you left these kids alone well guess what they'd grow up and they grow out of it actually do some therapy but the left is yeah but you can't do therapy because all the therapists are woke well sure they'll affirm their gender so exactly is out but this this thing this came from originally from Holland it was called The Dutch protocol but when it came to America they got rid of some of the safeguards like in Holland this was only for kids who had childhood onset gender dysphoria not this rapid onset 14 years old and they had to screen them for other comorbidities they didn't start them on crosstakes hormones until 16. so far fewer kids would get this when this came to the US they got rid of the safeguards they're given hormones at 13. Johanna Wilson Kennedy who runs the Children's Hospital in Los Angeles she's one of the top Docs in the U.S she got 5.7 million dollars from the NIH for a research grant that went to UCSF chla Larry children's in Chicago and Boston Children's 5.7 million dollars as part of this she got approval to reduce the age for cross-sex hormones from 13 to 8. imagine giving an eight-year-old girl testosterone it's always going to be girls because they're the ones hitting puberty that page it's required that they've already hit Tanner stage two of puberty so that's going to be only girls let me let me ask you a question this may make everybody uncomfortable but I'm going to ask anyway so I'm an atheist you said you're a Christian I think you're an atheist yes I'm agnostic you're agnostic Christian I'm you're you're agnostic basically what is your response to somebody who claims that the position that you hold I guess it doesn't this isn't for you it's just for you too you're only holding that position because of yourself are harboring a a delusion or a belief about reality and you're criticizing this position from uh a religious position so it's not that you've honestly and sincerely examine the evidence it's that you have an ideological filter and you're looking at your landscape and you're targeting this particular belief take religion out of it let's go back to the evidence and common sense then what does the evidence State what has Chris been talking about this entire time going back to children they should not be allowed to transition um you know and the funny thing too me getting into politics has me just been using my brain having Common Sense takes like to be quite honest with you I don't really talk about my religion um when it does come to me going out on the streets like I just try to be as neutral as possible and as common sense as possible and allow people to you know speak about whatever issue so when it comes to this issue as well same exact thing okay tell me why you think you should transition and from a common sense perspective like this goes into the whole like what is a man what is a woman type argument like at its base a man is a man and a woman is a woman and that is a biological fact and us trying to transition children is not healthy for them it has a physical repercussions it has mental repercussions disbelief the stance that you've adopted has nothing to do with your religion I've got an answer for this sure whether you believe in God or Evolution or both this makes no sense if you believe in God this idea ideology teaches that God made us wrong if you believe in evolution then this ideology is saying that a billion years of the process of natural selection has failed and for the first time in human history during this little 10-year blip a pharmaceutical company is here to help our children be who they really are I guess the second okay so I guess the first argument so for example in Iran gender surgery it's just not that big of a deal I don't speak Farsi my knowledge if Iran is very limited I just get that from what I'm reading but I think it's excuse me once you get out of the judeo Christian context it's interesting to see cross-culturally how other religions look at that and in terms of the evil and I'm not saying I agree I disagree with it I mean in Iran it's because you're not allowed to be gay said there are no homosexuals living in Iran yeah something like five or six years ago the Iranian women's soccer team had eight men on ah interesting because I did not know that because they're the only Muslim country that has this thing about gender transition and this goes back decades I forget the exact story I've read it a few times but it's fine to transition but you can't be gay so you can die or you can transition so it's not really about them being supportive of gender it's just yeah escape from Death I never thought it was about uh it wasn't a religious question for me it goes back to the Do no harm and it clearly does harm that they there's no way for them let's just say um this is a somehow an acceptable thing to do the the surgeries that they do do not produce the results that they claim that they claim okay so let me ask you this question then so what I tried to do did not work because everybody is differently religion to oriented um what if somebody makes the claim now on your Twitter feed it has a picture of you in Turkey Carlson and you've said you're conservative yeah you said your concerned Joe Rogan I mean I have a me and Tucker pick on my Twitter as well yeah I'm conservative are you a conservative classical liberal okay I'm a classical liberal as well libertarian exactly I don't even I don't even agree with the modern day definition of conservatism and I probably should lean more conservative because I am a Christian but also when it comes down to like OG American our constitutional rights I'm a little bit more libertarian with that and I just love how you threw in OG without images it depends on the issue I'm an issue specific person okay but should believe in universal healthcare that's not a conservative position certainly not in the United States it is in Canada though so let me ask you this question so the thing that that concerns me and I think I don't know this but I think it's the reason why people go after you and go after you and and you had mentioned this previously tonight I think it's because they think whether which is incorrect that the reason that you've targeted this is because again of the same thing if you replace Christian with conservative you have an ideological filter you've looked to your landscape you've identified this issue and your criticism of it all of the evidence itself is filtered through the the ideology no I was at the American Academy of Pediatrics convention last October there were 100 Democrats there protesting yeah protecting children is not religious it's not political like that's why we're all here with different religions coming to the same conclusion because people keep trying to say like oh you think this way because of your ideology but I feel like protecting children at its base is something that people from different races backgrounds religions can get behind I went to graduate school for marriage and family therapy so I have a background in counseling psychology and systemic therapy I don't practice and one of the main reasons why I decided not to go into that was because of what I saw happening in my graduate school in the sexuality courses it was in 2010 and it was the very beginning of an introduction of the gender ideology and I remember my advisor who was a therapist also talking about this man who came to her who decided that he had been a woman his entire life and she helped him transition he had six children and a wife and he left them and I just thought as a marriage and family therapist I mean we're trying to and you can't fix all marriages you can't fix a lot of them but her first inclination was this man needs to follow his true uh what he truly believes that he is and this is a woman who's worked as a therapist for 40 some years and I thought this is not the direction the counseling and psychology needs to be going and that isn't to me a religious question it was are we going to destroy families over this and I knew also that I would not be allowed I I could tell this 2010 I graduated 2012 and I thought I'm never going to be able to practice because I can see the trajectory of what these what where these beliefs are going and at some point soon I'm going to have to say I will affirm whatever somebody tells me or I'm going to lose my license and that's where yeah just just as a oh did you want to go well I I think you you asked a very important question because about the the partisan aspect of oppositional support on let's say gender trans ideology uh so I spent a lot of time in the UK now I know but there that um people care about the issue as an issue rather than other um a partisan a partisan thing in the U.S as much as um I think we can explain how it's not a left or right issue about the end of the day because of how politically it is yeah how how the culture was on the U.S it's like if you're a Democrat if you're a republican you are you you just sort of buy into this whole set of beliefs and there's not really a lot of wiggle room for example on on if you're Republican and you're very very pro-abortion it's very very hard to fit in it just is and you'll be awesome I mean I struggle to really think of any who are like actively pro-abortioned or somehow libertarian uh on abortion issues on the right but proportion that's not really something that can just doesn't fit into the GOP I think and the way the Democrat Party is now if you come out against trans ideology you just cannot fit in so it's you're forced to conform so it is it is the partisan issue and I think um and that's my worry about you know some of these um red states that have paths legislation that I mean I'm in Florida but I think having safeguards at the um legislative level to protect miners against irreversible medical intervention that's very important but just seeing the pushback among young people in very red States I mean we're talking you know the reddest of states in America the young people that come out to post this I'm just thinking 10 years down the line or maybe in five years down the line it's like we've seen how quickly culture can shift among the Next Generation and so you know that's why I'm always a um I'm less optimistic but um it's uh in the US it is a partisan issue so I talk about this a lot and I have a unique perspective from all the street conversations it's a partisan issue at the political class 100 that's where the public policy decisions are made yes but that they're not the Democratic party is not representing their constituents on this issue most of the voters are not in favor of this you can find me any Democratic voter in the state of Oregon with a little kid in grade two that Mom and Dad aren't going to be happy when they find out that their boy has been going by a girl's name for the last six months and she her pronouns and the school hid it from them they're not going to like that and it doesn't matter Portland it doesn't matter what the voters say though because the politicians won't listen to them I've been canvassing for the last two weeks for a school board in a in a district outside of Portland that's a little little bit more conservative the number one thing that comes up in the conversations and I'm talking to Independence unaffiliated and Republican voters is the gender question and that's what I call it and you know what are they teaching are they teaching my kid that he could be a she or she could be he and I keep hearing this and so it is encouraging to hear because I don't know if you would hear that same conversation and parents know their kids okay we've done everything in our life for our kids we've had all these sleepless nights we've laid down with them at bedtime every night for years reading to them we know who our children are and now someone comes along and brainwashes them to think they're the opposite sex it doesn't matter what party you voted for your whole life you know your girl is a girl and so this is the one issue where yeah the party the the politicians are going to go a certain way because they don't act answer to their voters the answer to activists these politicians answered a Planned Parenthood and the Human Rights Campaign and those are the people get them elected in the first place but I've talked to some of these Democratic politicians and I can see that they're agreeing with me but then when it comes to a vote they always go one way because they have to so then why are you optimistic because it'll change because there will be an there will be an upsurge amongst the voters there will be a continued education amongst the voters where we get to a critical mass where it's impossible for the politicians to ignore them anymore and remember what happened in Virginia Andy what happened with Virginia when the parents got mad at school boards and they were not being spoken for they ousted their governor and then they brought in Glenn yonkin because they were pissed off because their kids were being targeted and so I understand what you're saying and what Chris is saying is Well where it's like okay well the politicians don't speak for the people but that can only be allowed to go on for so long before the people finally get pissed off in San Francisco exactly like if you even look at the most radical areas like ultimately said politicians will be ousted if they continue not to speak for their constituents and it will be allowed to go on for so long and again when it comes to Oregon I'll be honest with you Andy I kind of agree with you where I'm like I don't think that's why I moved yeah I agree with that but if you also change for a long time yeah land and or I mean but if you also look at the uh you know outskirts of Portland and in Oregon the more conservative areas the people who might end up leaving this state will go and fortify these other states so there is that aspect of like policy being passed and these politicians not speaking to their constituents but that's not going to last forever you look very skeptical Andy it's an education issue so long they've been lied to and they people have bought this lie that this is life-saving care and it's not yeah I think it's more Global with the education system but that's could be what it is but I want to I want what are you you're well to me it's like that Chris you've done amazing work as one individual it's incredible and I don't want to like I don't want my pessimism to stop talking about devaluing that no no no so like what Grassroots activists are able to do and then I compare it to let's say what corporations are able to do incorporations have a lot of sway over affecting culture and it it's a David and Goliath type of situation and you know I I just come out feeling a bit like yeah it's okay you know like the parents many many many parents we see who are not right wing are uh on side on this particular issue but look at their children and look at the the education systems we're not talking even just at universities anymore this is going all the way to primary education okay I just found out that the the elementary school that I went to in Portland is hosting its uh LGBT Pride event and is having a drag queen event at a at the elementary school level anyways my point is if you capture the institutions of where a lot of where people essentially form their World Views into education um then then you have the Next Generation yeah and that's my big concern that's why the first sign I had made said gender ideology does not belong in schools because it's always been clear to me that yes they get this into the schools that's how you change the world but I just as a parent I know there's no love in this world like that of a parent for their kid and they're messing with our kids and moms and dads when they learn about this they are not okay with it when I get messages every day from left Wingers Andy they just don't know how to fight it that's the problem no one knows what to do so there's tons of them out there but they all go what do I do okay what do I do all the time and I don't know what to tell them I say you had to do something I just did something I started going outside and what I always tell people is once you start on some path and you commit to doing something doors will open you'll meet people you'll end up going in a direction you never could have foreseen people will come into your life who will help you and just as one example we've got moms for Liberty the two Founders are like my best friends in this Tiffany Justice I first met in a Twitter space yeah they're friends with Jim too yeah in November 2020 I was sitting in a hotel room in Round Rock Texas on my first trip to the US 20 20 21 the borders are just opened and I did this little Twitter space with her and these were two moms who started this organization January 1st 2021 selling T-shirts out of a spare bedroom now they got 115 000 mods they're the most effective powerful Grassroots organization going in the U.S and they're just going to keep growing and now they're all fighting this issue and yes most of them are conservatives but there are some Democrats in there too because if they want to fight somewhere there's nowhere else for them to go Democrats but man parents are mad you wouldn't be so pessimistic if you started talking to the parents on the ground more and for example I put out a tweet and I put out on Instagram yesterday too they said ladies or parents have your children been affected by this transgender ideology I want to hear about it and the majority of the parents I heard back from and again I know I have you know more conservative followers anyway but a lot of these parents have told they immediately said my child was taught this or their school was putting this on I immediately pulled them out I am I immediately started homeschooling them so a lot of parents are starting to become proactive a lot of women are starting to be a lot become a lot more vocal especially as you know biological men infiltrate our spaces so I think the pessimism comes from as well seeing a lot of the negativity that's happening in society today but when you do go out on the streets of America that's why I did my video where I went and I asked real men like hey would you date a trans woman because on Twitter We Are All Made to think that oh yeah this is so widely accepted by everyone men are just gonna take this sitting down and they're gonna be so Progressive in love when it's the opposite so I feel like um what we see online what we see in government is the complete opposite of what's actually happening on the ground and if you do talk to people in real life it's a very different story I would say we got lawsuits coming now too Harmony Dylan is representing 2D transitions Chloe Cole and another girl even younger I forget her name but and we and we're going to have lawsuits in all these states that have passed legislation as well now this is big and this never gets talked about but so every single state that has passed legislation will be sued it's guaranteed the ACLU will sue Department of Justice is suing what happens in these lawsuits discovery so they're going to be requesting documents from wpath from the AAP show us the evidence for transitioning kids and they're going to try and withhold it as much as possible but you've got legislation now in 13 different states so you're going to have 13 different judges they're not going to be able to withhold all this evidence Florida just subpoena wpath to support to show them all the evidence for supporting transitioning kids and the truth is going to get out there so there's all sorts of different angles fighting this now and we never know in life where the big wins are necessarily going to come from but they're going to come does that I swears your concern um yeah we haven't even talked about law fair is a way to fight back against us my friend Chris rufo is doing that very very effectively I mean it could be a make or break yeah in England there's a class action going on against the Tavistock oh that place is a a a literal horror show a house of horrors yeah oh it's the same here so a survey of 13 gender clinics found seven of them were handing out puberty blockers on the first one they know nothing about these kids absolutely nothing so but I guarantee here's the one thing all the parents fighting this so many of them have quit their lives Aaron Friday a Democrat in California she's quit everything she fights this full-time now she's got a huge upper button because it's California but she's never going to stop I know a lot of parents who are never going to stop and I know more and more are coming all the time we were never going to stop so I'm just one person but I've reached tens of millions there's going to be a lot of other people reaching tens of millions and we're never going to stop and we have the truth if we didn't have the truth this would be a different story and I ask people all the time please show me where I'm wrong because I love being wrong that's how we learn but I've read everything there is to read I've read all these studies I've read all the reports from the different countries who are stopping this let me ask you we have the truth all right let me ask you a question so yeah something I've been thinking about a lot lately and Reed's heard me say this because I've lamented this to him quite a bit so I've lost a lot of friends good friends people some of whom you know Andy people have been in my house and invariably without exception they have said one single thing to me and I'm curious if this has happened to you uh so I have multi-part question they have said to me or accuse me of and this is the exact quotation you're on the wrong side of History yeah yeah I mean so so you've looked at the data you've looked at the evidence what do you see so I guess a couple of questions do you think you're on the right side of history or do you even think about like that and what do you say to somebody because I've thought because it literally just happened to me again when we were in Australia you're on the wrong side of History so what do you say to somebody who says to you you're they don't make an argument they're just telling you you're on the wrong side of History has someone said that to you of course okay okay so what what is the response to that how do you I don't it's not even an accusation I don't even know what it is it's just a ridiculous statement I mean but but it may be ridiculous but it's also ubiquitous it's everywhere I hear it constantly well I know I'm on the right side of History because as I said before there's no right way to be boy or girl our kids are beautiful just as they are what are we doing sterilizing children we're sterilizing kids and cutting off their body parts and people ask me are you they say I'm on the wrong side of History what the right side of history is sterilizing kids creating an orgasmic lifelong pharmaceutical patients where boys have to dilate their kneel vagina for the rest of their life that's the right side of History not a chance this is the most insane cult possibly in the history of the world I've gone back in the history of humanity and I've thought what have we done to kids it's more crazy than this we think we're this Advanced Society because we have all this technology psychologically we're the same we're like cavemen and stuff look at the things we do to people so different the same psychological things that have affected entire entire populations are happening again today the my the human mind is very weak psychologically we're easily manipulated we're easily swayed we're prone to Cults we're prone to group think and mass psychosis and this is just another one but our kids are beautiful just as they are now we're going to take an effeminate boy and say he needs to get his penis cut off come on there's no argument there yes I am incredibly fortunate I have two kids they're both gay and I'm incredibly fortunate that my son was not subjected to this he he just missed the wave just missed it right what are they gay or are they trans right they're definitely gay what is trans though right I asked this question all the time what is it it's not measurable yeah being gay is measurable you can take a gay man put him in an MRI machine show him sexual material with gay men and the parts of his brain associated with sexual arousal will light up is that the case yeah oh with sexual arousal yeah yeah but and of course it's just the obvious physiological reaction yeah but what's Tran what is trans well this all comes back to this idea of gender is a social construct yeah which has roots and feminism which goes back to the 40s Simone de Beaufort there's an arbor it's really a fascinating thing when you think about it I don't necessarily know if I want to go down this rabbit hole but there's an arbitrary relationship between your genitalia and well just about everything you know that you that your your gender okay so let's let's bracket now it's getting kind of late and we have a long day tomorrow uh yeah it's already 10 33. but did anybody else want to throw anything out before we I'm good I just you know there's there's no right way to be a girl or boy the whole gender ideology from scratch is a lie honestly we need to abolish the whole thing I say all the time there are two Sexes zero genders and infinite personalities and that captures everybody I think Chris is so effective because his language is so clear in the uh opposite of the euphemisms at the other side um are so good at uh when when they say for example you're on the wrong side of history but then they think they The Narrative the package they've been sold is that supporting people who are trans is a it's the same as supporting people who are are gay or lesbian 50 years ago they think it's the same logical um rationale it's not there are huge differences and um gosh you know I I mean JK Rowling and such uh a hero to people who um are critical of the trans ideology because they have somebody that with that type of megaphone and influence to to come out so clearly on this issue we don't like that that's such a blessing for for Burton because in the U.S I struggle to think of any like hugely influential liberal person who's put who's putting a lot on the line to come out we unfortunately I think have a lot of cowards um um yeah so uh two rock stars in the last week I know they're older now oh the kiss guy guy from kiss and the guy from Twisted Sister oh yeah um but yeah JK was huge that's why my first billboard said I love chicken yeah yeah and nothing generates hate like those ones but just to touch on that the reason this has had so much success and has gained so much steam is because those four letters LGBT they combine them all and it stops anyone from speaking out because if you speak out against trans then your anti-lgbt it's actually the opposite right it's exactly the opposite you're it's it's a kind of a racial homosexuality as Andrew Sullivan has pointed up but it paralyzed everyone for the longest time and when gay rights were won all the money from all these TQ organizations turned to trans rights right they don't just shut the doors right the Human Rights Campaign and say we achieved our goals they got to keep donations flowing they got to keep everyone employed so then they need a new goal Andrew Sullivan writes I'm not um Andrew Doyle writes about that in the new Puritans what it's the effect on the gay rights movement It's a Wonderful book if you haven't read it highly recommend it all right all right we good so tomorrow we're we're going out and this is will be released after that so so cool well thanks thank you Peter appreciate it I appreciate it and I really appreciate what you're doing I appreciate what you're doing appreciate what you're doing I appreciate what you're doing like genuinely think that you're you're moving the needle on the problem and that's what we need to do we all need to make a contribution like you said something [Music]

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Published: Tue May 30 2023