MLB: Aaron, Bench, Koufax & Mays

just before this past july's all-star game major league baseball announced the results of nationwide fan voting to determine its four greatest living players the so-called franchise four were henry aaron willie mays johnny bench and sandy koufax prior to that ceremony we spoke with these truly legendary hall of famers a veritable baseball mount rushmore it was a rare opportunity to sit with them together and in the case of kofax it was one of the very very few times he's talked about his career since he retired almost 50 years ago given that tomorrow appearances to the contrary is sandy's 80th birthday we thought what better time to re-air this unique gathering so here now an hour with four of baseball's best ever now it's time to honor the ultimate franchise four [Applause] [Music] you look great these four men stand among the very best the game has ever seen in this perfect game hi sandy thank you for doing this really appreciate right here get my hands i got you you got me when i was no i didn't want you to hear me i want to be nice to you now but it's okay man how are you doing hi johnny i really doing all right man willie one day was standing up there and he'd do that he'd swing that bat back and forth and his head would swivel you know he's trying to peek and get my sign and he did this five or six swings never fight finally stepped down said you're gonna call a pitcher what i said yeah as soon as you quit looking back here oh man you got me i remember it very well i got tired my arm got tired [Applause] hello henry hello henry good afternoon let's hear it one more time for these four icons of the game bench aaron colfax and maze [Music] okay so here's baseball's living mount rushmore and all of you are national leaguers so i guess in your time the national league really was the better league huh now i think most national leaguers have computers now and [Laughter] well it's kind of difficult i mean even as a kid and i'm a little bit younger than some of these guys but it's it's very difficult not to when you think of baseball to begin with i mean there was mantle but there's there's never been like you know maze and aaron and then sandy stands alone as what he did and and unfortunately for him they didn't have the tommy john surgery or we would have a whole lot more but these are these are the special men that i grew up with but at the same time they're le i mean they are the legends they are what i was i mean my first all-star game i was sitting in my locker i was 20 years old in the astronaut and i wasn't going to move i wasn't going to spike anybody i wasn't going to leave my locker and willie walked over across the locker room and pointed right at me and said you should have been the starting catcher oh yeah it was it meant more than any all-star game memory anything that's ever mentioned and henry was always you know great mean to me and says how are you doing every time when he walked up to the plate i did have the great fortune of not having to face sandy so my career turned out to be a little better probably because of it well my first one is 1954 and they told me the american league is laughing at you all the time i said what do you mean because i wasn't i'll think about playing three innings and get out of there and then all of a sudden they said no you got to play nine every day i said well if i got to play nine okay give me some money so leo said okay we'll get you an extra 5 000. now well that was a lot of money for me at that time excuse me what's the extra 5 000. we did that we didn't get anything well i remember playing my face all-star game and i remember stan musial this is the first all-star game i played in in milwaukee and i remember playing extra and stan musia came up and he said well boys he said they don't pay us to pay action and so i'm not going to hit a home run and that is the gospel truth i tell a lot of people that you know i knew you talked about babe ruth hitting over he went up and hit a home run he won the game for us that was my place all started yeah the all-star game to me was fun i wanted to win i went from third where did you hear that johnny third fourth fifth depending on how i was you weren't playing i was better if you were playing i was batting seventh or eighth it wasn't gonna lead off no no no no no you hit you hit over 300 for 16 years i checked on you all right yeah so you you did very well thank you but you liked about lead off in the all-stars yeah i like that you could run a little bit right five or six times yeah for an extra 5 000. yeah he was a better negotiator yes sandy you look around this table there's more than 1800 home runs between these three guys now it's too much to ask them to remember no he didn't hit any of me it's true but you hit two so i bet you can remember them both yeah they're both in milwaukee and they took the park right out of the league i beat spawny one night two to one and i get to first base and he is screaming at me and i can't say what he's screaming i get to second base and it's worse if you get here like between third and home he says 26 years a pretty good career and you've ruined it for one night so you know henry whether you realize it or not you were witness to both of san diego yes the next year he hit one off danny lemaster he did i remember that very well i was in i was playing outfield when he hit it i didn't believe it myself but they were legitimate home runs they were hit a long ways you got right handed the one i remember we had to fight you remember the fight yeah when we had to fight the next enemy he threw me a slider i never threw only one you ever myself out of the game i go into the clubhouse he's in there i get the rub i said why am i in here because i said i thought your arm was so no no no i just wanted to see if you could get a slider this was after johnny roseborough got conked on that yeah you were pitching and yeah we were just laughing we weren't going to fight nobody roseboro wasn't laughing no well he didn't hit him hard he hit him a little bit it wasn't that hard yeah and then when order was restored you took sandy deep i remember very well and i said that's the only one you ever told me and i uh something's wrong with his arm [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] illusion so many people watching this and so many young players today grew up dreaming of being one or the other of you guys who did you dream of being when you were a kid no mickey mantle you know i grew up in oklahoma so mickey was it you know i'm watching black and white television i'm three years old and the announcer comes on and says now batting the next superstar the switch hitting center fielder from oklahoma yeah and i looked at my dad and i said you can be from oklahoma and play in the major leagues that's what i wanted to be in my dad unfortunately her served two hitches in a war because his dream was to catch in the major league so henry i think i wanted to be jackie robinson you know with all the things yeah at that time we really didn't what that was not many african-americans playing ball when i first started so he when he first started of course we were glued to the television hoping that he would do something great and he we watched him so i i wanted to be him you know in fact you two guys are just barely old enough to have played briefly in the negro leagues each of you before you came to the major leagues and you told me a story once about jackie robinson coming through alabama barnstorming with the brooklyn dodgers and you climbed a tree to watch him close watch him play that's right yeah and the other story was is that willie and i almost was teammates you know we bare came very close back then it was just a matter of dollars i think it was 500 i would have signed with the new york giants willie got 600. [Music] i have a family to take care so he gave me another extra hundred so stick around master negotiator probably a knickerbocker but yeah because you're a basketball player yeah but other than that i think gil hodges was kind of the guy i really enjoyed oh you're a new york kid yeah and he was in his prime yeah and you later became his teammate yep was he good to you he he was great to me after i won my first game you know when you were a kid who shouldn't have been there i came under that bonus rule there was no reason for me to be there i was taking the place of somebody else who should have been in the big leagues and i think deal was not nasty to me but it was just you're there yeah you're one of the lockers but after i won my first game it was totally different who did you dream of being when you were a kid willing what baseball players with me was uh joe jordan manager when i was in birmingham i had three guys that was ted williams stan museum and joe and i felt that joe could do a little more than the other two could do he could run he could play but he didn't ted was the best hitter i thought the music jumped in there and then joe came third to me but he was my guy because i thought he played center field he could play all you know every played every day i just watched him every every sunday i would get the paper to make sure that i see what he was hitting and he did good but he didn't steal a lot of bases but he could be a good base runner and he was very good so joe was my my guy here you're sitting between two of the greatest who ever lived in the whole history of the game and in your autobiography this goes back a long time you said about willie if i make a mistake he's going to hurt me but with hank all i hope for is that his line drives are at somebody yeah oh yeah but you know what you just said about the two greatest in the game you know these two guys it's an honor for us to be selected with them they were a given i think the rest of us were toss-up everybody who was on the ballot [Laughter] i don't know these two are a given thanks very much senator for that compliment really because he was one of the greatest i watched him and not only saw him pitch and looked at box scores of what he had done it was absolutely fabulous if someone had to go out there and pitch to one hitter he could pitch nowhere i mean that's what's the way he could pitch and this guy here johnny bench was absolutely fabulous i never saw a guy only only catch i ever saw that caught like him was campanella he was the only guy that every ball in the dirt he keep in front of him bench when he came in in cincinnati i said i'm going to kill this little guy right here and one day i was trying to score from second and i hit him but i stopped it's like a freight train bending down he probably don't remember but i remember you looked up at me and said get the hell off me man you broke my leg you broke my leg oh my gosh i said i'm gonna kill this kid here and all of a sudden i i couldn't move big old legs and thing i said man get off of me what's wrong with you anyway that was my first introduction to that so i said oh man metropolitan stadium in bloomington minnesota the scene of the final game of the 1965 world series for the los angeles dodgers the incomparable sandy koufax will be fishing colfax is struggling and he does not have a curveball kovacs appears to have only the password it's almost impossible to do it on one pitch in the big league wake up fast forward three somebody has pulled back how do you feel and he said like i'm a hundred years old factory he did it his second consecutive shutout of the twins so today how do you feel 101 well there's a difference and i'm going to defer to you guys speed fascinates people but it's the movement that matters i don't know if you threw 95 or 100 but i know it moved i think movement and it's the same as real estate it's location locations you'll always talk about the fact of where the movement is and it's at the hitting area and that's why to me uh greg maddox was i mean i i always wanted to get a bat and just go up there and yet nobody was making contact i mean it was amazing the way they do it i see a little bit of cranky cranky grenkie is a guy that you know he's a real student first of all he studies the film he knows the hitters inside and out he knows their weaknesses knows their strength but you you really do appreciate the art of of what they're trying to achieve some of my greatest times were catching in all-star games and catching pitchers that i had never had the chance i mean marichelle in one day we went out in yankee stadium and i was i felt like picasso you know i could have caught him with a pair of pliers and i i would call a screw ball here and a slider there in a curveball there fastball a little changing you know guys say you know he's a great catcher and i said well that passed that staff i i could i could we would win 140 games because it's hard to do and you see the dominance i i think sandy the question for you is we talk about the velocity and it seems like everybody has it now is it because they're trained or brought up or they're stronger or they're healthier bigger bigger probably trained earlier uh yeah i really don't know you know why there are so many but there are more people trying to play to pitch uh the training starts earlier and i i can't tell you why there are more guys but don't you have only five hundred but don't you have more time at john's today than you held before yeah they're drafted in the next year but you know one big difference is when i first started the dodger organization had over 600 players in it so now an organization has 140 150 if 100 guys got hurt you never saw him again they signed another hundred they just kept bringing him bring them in it was no free agency there was no draft so you just gave a guy a glove and you signed them and if you had 26 teams like the dodgers did you had five guys who were prospects on each team and the other 20 were just there to give them a place to play and i think that's a big change you get more talent in a smaller area in a smaller pool but you know what it it's it it's funny you talk about pitches today and you do have quite a few of them throwing 95 96 but you don't have that movement though sandy you know i mean really you know i remember hitting off steve carlton you know and steve carlton used to throw fastballs right and you did too throw fastballs right here and you get back to the bench you say i saw that ball but it was moving just a little bit up like this you know and that that is one of the toughest pitches in all the baseball to hit is that ball up here look really wind made a living off of it you know the guys who can do this yes usually you're gonna get a strikeout an inning and five pop flies that's true so you got five innings in with no problems now you've got to get the rest of it sacred ball pitchers and they're great ones and it's a great way to pitch but one night it's a no-hitter and next night everything finds a hole so there are very few guys who can do that you've got to throw it hard enough so give me the give me the principle because you once told me that a good curveball a great curveball this rotation how many times does it rotate going to home plate an average curveball goes about 11 a bad one about nine great one about 13. so that's the revolution that it makes but are you are you ripping the seams off on that rising fastball on the rising festival the rising fastball you know today they say you throw on a downward plane to throw a rising fastball you've got to be low siever you know guys who back leg was on the ground your mind would have dirt inside the leg to do that fastball you can't throw it down gravity won't let that happen you've got to get down low enough so you're throwing out and the ball has a chance even if it doesn't do that it looks like it but it does it doesn't do that so it's even if it's straight you think it's good the one i didn't like all for you was the fastball that went up and i figured when it started i saw it halfway and by the time i started swinging it was always over my head a little bit i wish you'd swung at those i wanted to because it looks good coming up there but it looks better going back to the dugout and i said to myself maybe i'm laughing one day how do you throw the fastball so straight and they move so much when it gets to the plate i didn't i didn't understand that one yeah but you never throw me a breaking ball so the breaking ball was out well were a good breaking ball hitter yeah well it was out so the fastball always looked for it but i never could hit it don't say never we got you five times both of these guys what you did you've got the guy in front of him that's the guy you got out so you didn't have to face him with anyone on base that was the idea yeah one one night we were playing the dodgers and sandy alamo i believe rico carter was hitting before me i felt sorry for him he threw him i think 12 ball and that was 12 strikes and he struck him out three or four times four times like he said he didn't want to face you with anybody going the next day he came up to me he said are you mad at me i don't even know who you are you're hitting me in front of henry [Applause] and once again foreign champion of all time [Applause] let me ask each of you about a moment that people think of as your greatest moment maybe you don't think of it that way and it isn't so much the particulars of it as the emotion of it that i'm interested in johnny i can guess that maybe it's the home run in 72 against the pirates not so much what happened but what you were feeling walking to the plate or after you hit the ball out well i had the feeling i told somebody in the dugout i was going to hit a home run to make a difference in the game in the third inning and i'm in the on deck leading uh on deck circle leading off the ninth and i i was very aware that i had a spot on my lung and i was going to have surgery after the season was over so there was a chance it would have been my last possible at-bat in in baseball so i'm standing in the on deck circle and and you're the crowd yelling johnny johnny johnny and i'm like i'm not paying attention and he said it's your mother so i turned around and there was mom and and i i i know she said hit a home run she says you know what you have to do because she was aware of the surgery and and i and i here's dave justin pitching and i'm smiling to myself saying i wish it were that easy and of course i hit the home run that tied the game up and we won a couple of hitters later with the wild pitch but uh yeah i anytime i hear that broadcast it's just chilling i mean it's just chills running through me so that that meant so many much to me hank what's your moment and the emotions that surround the moment that you remember i think 57 um when i hit the home run off billy muffet that won the planet won the penalty that's right yes we had struggled the year before in fact we had lost three games to the saint louis cardinals in saint louis and then we were on a kind of a losing streak and when we played the cardinals in milwaukee and i hit the home run off billy muffet who was at that time one of the top relief pitchers in baseball that was probably the most the glorifying moment for me because it gave not only the our ball club a chance to be in the world series but then it gave all the whole city of milwaukee and wisconsin a chance to celebrate you know so people would think that it would be seven there's a new home run yeah well you know that that that too but but but the home run i just mentioned the home run that i hit to break the record was suddenly up there but that was done in part because i was surrounded for many years with so many great teammates you know i certainly have to give matthews credit i have to give ad [ __ ] i have to give all those guys who i played with a little credit because if i hadn't been centered right in the middle with all of them i probably would have been walked as many times as anybody so i would have to say that sandy uh i would say the last day of the season in 1966 i knew that was my last year uh this is probably the last regular season game we were tied with the giants we know we had double header we had to win one game giants were in pittsburgh waiting to see where they were going you know for whether there's going to be a playoff or not the first game of the doubleheader was tied 3-3 and i said well i might as well go warm up in case we get ahead i can relieve and pitch three innings instead of nine and he said okay go i warmed up for three innings we get beat go on a clubhouse change sweatshirts and come back out and kind of warm up to the start of the second game and this is on two days rest which was stupid if anybody did it today but you know we got lucky and we won and we won the pennant and we got killed in the world series by baltimore but you know this was important to me for this team to win the pennant that day and i think those are the ones that i remember most the ones that made the team win henry says the same thing john the same thing it's it's that special thing you've shared with a guy for six months that's important you know now when someone throws more than a hundred pitches or god forbid they pitch on three days rest it's front page news you won the seventh game of the 65 world series on two days rest and you won the pennant clinching game as you just said a year later on two days rest right gets them the penny clinching game you did right now a lot of people would say naturally the perfect game and sometimes people will say you know what the thing i'm most famous for is not necessarily my best game you can't do better than a perfect game but maybe you had better stuff on another night i don't know no but you know it's not a question of that it's what you share with other people uh the perfect game i didn't have great stuff at the beginning the last two innings probably the best stuff i've ever had but you know but that was just a game we're fighting for a pennant and you get one run and i think to start before i think i had four starts you got two runs and you come out of it at 500 you're thrilled [Laughter] willie yeah what what one moment state stands out and the emotion around that i had and i never i didn't think i would ever do this the four home runs that i hit in milwaukee i never thought i could hit four home runs in one game and i said many times to the writer if i hit four home runs we lose the game what good are the home runs and i think you know i was sick that day i had ate some ribs the night before i came out and joe mafitano brought my bat to me he said try this back i said man i can't play today so try this back so i go up and i hit the first four or five home ball out of the ballpark i said i i went over changed the lineup put my name third and luckily i hit you know four home runs i would have hit five but hank caught the ball going over the fence is that true hank you remember that yeah well that particular game what he's talking about yeah yes when it was 12 home runs he hit that day a lot of lou hit a couple of home runs out you know and they must have been blowing out in milwaukee that day i don't know where i hit two or three [Music] there goes the runner straw right on the button next drawing they got it it's the nearest thing to suicide to run on the kid from oklahoma get out of here you guys were involved in some incredible games you were in the game both of you in 1963 when both warren spahn and juan marichel went the distance in a 16-inning game that you won with a homer in the bottom of the 16th at candlestick yeah one to nothing that's right well the the the reason i think i was lucky to hit the home run because my chair was died swan was 40 something then martial was 27. and he came to me and touched me on the shoulder tickle i'm tired i said well you you only going 15 innings can you go one more so he said yes and i said you see that guy out there i said spawn it's 47 years old you can't quit right now so luckily i hit a home run off for him and in the next inning so uh he come in he thanked me and he says me going pitch the next four days now 16 innocent you know that when you pitch 16 innings as you said you don't pitch the next you know three or four days you rest for a little while no you don't not then you didn't well i never was saying that today i went 15 with bunning you know 1-1-1 yeah and three days later you know the fourth day you're back out there is that right hank you and willie got just about everything you could possibly get out of your careers on the other hand johnny you were a huge star at age 20 and you were done by your mid-30s variety of ailments and the problem with your lung and whatnot and sandy you were done even though you were still the game's greatest pitcher you were done at age 30. for you two guys a sense of something unfulfilled was it a while before you came to terms with it or were you okay when you walked away no i was very okay i should have been an outfielder i figured [Laughter] i should have been an outfield you know the thing was at at a point you uh you reach a level where you can't be johnny bench anymore and you're not you're being overpaid is what i thought i'm not performing up to the level that johnny bench should be performing elbow and back and all the stuff and you know 13 consecutive years of 100 game seasons it takes its toll i mean i caught 154 games my first year out of 158 i got 54 days in a row without a day off 17 broken bones seven broken cups and i missed two days the seven broken cups is worse than the 17 broken bones actually it hurt more than the other stuff sandy uh you know i probably could have kept pitching it wasn't so much the pitching that was the problem it was how to get from one start to the other you know draining fluid out of your elbow all the drugs you were taking you know the stuff that they won't give horses anymore you're living on butazolidine and i asked the doctor i said you know i'm trusting you to keep me going i'm going to ask you to tell me when it's time to stop you know when i could do permanent damage they didn't do surgeries then that they do now and he just said i think you should make this your last year and i said okay that's it i had 12 years in the big leagues uh that would be a dream for a lot of people six good ones six bad ones i was at 500 time to go you know i think of you if there's an equivalent in another sport it's gayle sayers it was only four or five years but that's all we needed to see to know that he's on football's mount rushmore wasn't that long for you no but it was all we needed to see oh thank you you got it they were two of the greatest i'll tell you the time that i uh thought i should quit was the time johnny ran over me in new york you still can't get over that guy i can't get over no this is i was playing first first base oh this is another one oh he killed me all the time he's standing there on the back he's right in the line i'm trying to run through the base no he's not going to go around me i know that he's going to hit me so i said to myself this is it so i said i i can't get out the way and it's time to i apologize for that too well i am now though i really feel bad about that please welcome hank aaron johnny bench sandy koufax and willie mays it's time for the ceremonial first pitch and we obviously already have a pitcher and a catcher out there colfax to bench thank you sandy thank you johnny you didn't play against sandy but in every other case there's an overlap here tell me what it is about the other three guys that made them special it was everything about henry i mean it's even just him saying hello when he first came up to home plate and just even just recognizing the fact that i was there meant a lot to me it was the fact that the way he approached hitting the balls that were by him he just snapped the wrist and they were line drives and when he never really threw to a wrong base he was graceful in the outfield he had a strong enough arm to do anything he wanted with he could steal a base if he needed to and it was with a grace it was a you know that that few other people had now as far as willie was concerned it was his dash i mean it was his all of the excitement that he created i mean he was you almost generated when he walked to home plate you could just feel the vibrations and and you could feel the stirrings in the crowd you could just feel that action and excitement and willie was going to do it willie didn't care william was going to try to get a base on was trying to steal on most catchers he couldn't on me but he he was there and everything he did he chased the ball down he he wanted that ball so bad he wanted to get the base hit so bad he wanted to win these guys they wanted to win they knew nothing about losing and they didn't care about losing they were winners from the very beginning to what sandy koufax i mean obviously it was on the world series and the stuff that we got in just on tv but to see the grace and the kick and the and the drive and that curveball it just and it just kept on doing and it's just those are the things that make young kids dream of being major league baseball players and because of the example they set you know we i tr and a lot of others have tried to play the game like them hank on the other three well of course johnny i watched for many years and the thing that your mom led is the fact that he was so strong he was much stronger than a lot of people anticipated you know if you notice right now you know his hands are much larger than just the average hand and he never missed the ball you know and and he had strength enough to go out and play a double head of the day and go out and catch the singer game tomorrow he could throw the ball about as well as anybody now you're saying did he have a strong arm yes a very strong but more than that he had an acronym he could throw the ball right on the beds down to the pig but the thing i liked about it was the fact that he come at an eighth in a ninth inning and everybody thought that he was worn out and hit a home run a three-run home and beat your ball game and that was the end of that this guy of course sandy colfax was the fact that you you know you can sit in the clubhouse and go over all the pictures that you want to go over the one thing that he was not going to let happen certain people were not going to beat him a ball game now he'll get you out he'll throw a ball i mean i have faced him in the face inning and that ball i keep saying this ball up here hop hop hop but he was such a he was just such a dominant he never i would say this you always talk about pitchers getting beat with their second second or third he never got beaten with the second or third pitch you were going to beat him with his best pitch that he had and that's the way he was not only from the facing but from the ninth inning this guy of course like johnny was saying he was just amazing the thing that he did you know willa was just amazing i mean people thought that he was showboating when he caught the ball below his belt but that was the way he caught the ball you know i i caught it the best way i could but he was she was fast he was he could hit the ball out of the ballpark he did things the way that you want him to do and you marvel at some of the things that he could do and so i i just feel like i was i was in a world of my own when i it was there was such friendly competition between all of us you know really not the pictures but between these guys but when you saw willie you know i wanted to do we played him a full game series i wanted to come out of that four-game series and say i had more hits than willie because i knew he was the best ball player out there and you know what i looked it up you hit 303 willie in the games directly against hank he hit 312. you hit 77 homers he hit 74. you stole 30 bases he's still 35. the rbis are almost exactly identical the slugging percentage almost exactly you were virtually break even you were each just about equally great against one another well that's and he make he you know you talk about basketball and some of the things lebron does with other team with his teammates but he makes everybody around him play better not only around him but player playing against him too also sandy well it's hard to say you know what they've said about willie is absolutely true about both of them uh i think i was more afraid of hank and more respectful of willie it's hard to say but you know they are going to hit you and there's nothing in the lineup card that says who you have to get out you got to get 27 outs and they both were as good as there was in baseball at that time with maybe the addition of roberto and pittsburgh you know but i just tried my best not to have them be in position to beat me johnny i never played against i watched him and he did amaze me with the fact that he caught so well he not only had a great arm and accurate but he had a quick release he got rid of the ball in a hurry and that's the only way a catcher is going to throw you out you can wind up and have a great arm and that wind-up is the stolen base and he was a great hitter too yeah people forget that 40 home run 120 530 rbi seasons two mvps wasn't just what you did behind the play oh yeah willie uh let me start with johnny for right quick and i think i touched on a little bit when i first saw him uh his arm was such a a new what they call a retreat to me i never seen anybody throw the ball like that can't be through a slidell to second base but johnny two straight the ball went straight like up the the second base would never had a problem catching and slam tagging the guy out i just was amazed what he could do as a young man coming into a major league game but i thought he did a tremendous job doing what he had to do now hank uh used to run me down so much i i i didn't know where to play him at i play him straight away one day he hits the ball right center up then i said okay i better play him to right again his his hands was such a i don't know how to put it because he had the risk that would do the job for him and i used to say to myself well i want to hit like that but i can't hit like that i gotta have what they call the free swinging deal i have to hit my way so hank and i was you know kind of similar because we came into the league just about the same time and i admired him all through he and he knew this when i had a problem i would go to him what am i done he'll come to me one day oh you're doing this you're doing that then sandy i would always say to myself is he going to mess up one day he's not going to bless tomorrow i got a good chance of getting three or four years the giants and dodgers were almost always in pennant races almost no way walter also is going to let sandy skip the giants you know we got two guys we got drives down and consented all the time and i'm saying to myself what is he going to get sick of something he never did but there are a lot of four game series then four games [Laughter] if i got two home runs in that series i was good for me that's all i was gonna get drives they're gonna knock me down i know that so i was on the ground half of the time but he never knocked me down sonny never threw close to me and i said when when is he going to do something wrong because we couldn't throw he couldn't hit you you couldn't hit him if you wanted to how about stan williams oh that guy oh he was mean said put him on one day to stand through at him four times that was in l.a yeah yeah but yeah you know it's been a treat three balls and no strength to play we're going to see his guys learn so much about him you know i really had fun doing it all the time and here is the very last thing bob euchre told me again to apologize to you because he thought the home run he hit off you was going to keep you out of the hall of fame but he keeps saying he hit 400. it was really 200. no no 200. he had 14 lifetime homers and three of them were off hall of famers gaylord perry ferguson jenkins and the one that no one can believe the one of sandy koufax i don't remember that one i'm trying to forget it i remember when he hit a line drive foul one day off sandy colfax and i think bob thought it was a home run he told me he counted the ones in batting practice too so yeah yeah yeah he was he was funny hey folks take a look this is baseball mount rushmore johnny hank sandy willie thank you all very much congratulations thank you thank you

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Published: Thu Jan 28 2021