Mind Altering Mushrooms of the Pacific Northwest

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thank you welcome to mushroom Wonderland all right thank you all for joining um you know this talk is called mind altering mushrooms of the Pacific Northwest and uh just as a disclaimer kpms is now trying to promote any use of these or anything like that is this purely educational so if you're ever curious about these kind of mushrooms they do occur here in the Pacific Northwest and so I'm going to talk about them here today uh who am I my name is Aaron Hilliard I'm the vice president of Kitsap Peninsula mycological society and I have a YouTube channel called mushroom Wonderland you might have seen me there on Instagram or Tick Tock and I make all kinds of foraging videos and due to the policies of YouTube I don't talk too much about silasubin mushrooms because they have a tendency to close people's channels for talking about that and so um and I I'd like to keep it family friendly and whatnot you know and so again I'm not under this purely educational and uh and I do have experience with these mushrooms not in a long time but I you know I've been to the Mountaintop so to speak so I don't really feel the need to go back right away but um so that's who I am I've been picking mushrooms and coming to the show since I was a kid and my grandma got me into it and then when I was a teenager I got a new love for mushrooms and uh because of these kind of mushrooms you know and so um I'm gonna go way back this is more than the pnw the earliest known uses um there's there's drawings on it on Cave walls in Tanzania down in Australia from 10 000 years ago and these people are said to represent magic mushrooms you can see their uh crazy mushroom looking hairdos um you know there's some Scholars that debate that and they say that these are probably trees but uh for for my sake I think it's interesting 10 000 years ago people were were drawing mushrooms on walls and in Central America there's evidence of people using magic mushrooms five thousand years ago in Spain there's um there's these uh paintings on the walls uh the Selva pascala mural from 6 000 years ago and it seems to depict something called salasubi hispanica which is a magic mushroom that grows in Spain and I guess they can tell that because the the stems on some of them are crooked and they just looked at this the cap to stem ratio and kind of figured like this has to be you know those certain mushrooms uh solosity hispanica has kind of a crooked stem sometimes so just like you see in those pictures there so that's interesting a different mind altering mushroom this is a fresco painted in a you know in a church in in 1291 in France and this depicts uh Adam and Eve and instead of the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil they're standing in uh around a Amanita muscaria so they're very um very uh you know recognizable mushroom red with the whites and white dots all over the cap and then instead of leaves you know they're covering themselves with mushroom caps and so some people would think that maybe uh maybe it wasn't a piece of fruit but more of a mushroom that gave them the knowledge you know um this mushroom I was just talking about Amanita mascaria there's a lot of stories about um it's kind of folklore stories about ancient um shamans in Northern Siberia and in particular a place called Lapland in Finland which is a a really far north Arctic kind of of Conifer Forest land where it snows a lot in the winter and the only thing that really grows out there these Amanita mascarias and and uh and so the story of Saint Nick uh you know some people believe actually comes from Amanita muscaria and these people lived in these little cabins in Lapland and it would snow so much that they couldn't open their front door so the shaman would come to town and he would have to go down the chimney with his gifts of magic mushrooms that people ate and then they saw visions and then the uh the reindeer because they actually had sleds that they pulled by reindeer way up there and so they would appear to fly or whatever you know and so they wore you know fur suits a lot like what Santa Claus wears so I don't know you'd be the judge but it seems to make a lot of sense if you think about it uh so I'll make the distinction uh Amanita versus salasubin mushroom so Amanita here on top the the common you know red with the white spots and this is another Amanita that's kind of closely related Amanita Panther annuities here in the Northwest is the brown one with the white spots and this um a lot of people confuse that mushroom with a magic mushroom a lot of times when they talk about magic mushrooms that picture will be you know on a t-shirt or on a poster or whatever and it's actually a sedative hypnotic and a depressant and it has more of an effect of like making you feel disassociated and confused and drunk a lot of people after they've eaten them will go lay down and have like Terrible Horrible dreams there's a reason why those mushrooms are psychoactive but they're not illegal is because the effects are so unpleasant that people just won't do it a second time and they also uh you know they contain a couple of compounds called uh muskemol and iobotanic acid which work together to give you these kind of delirium effects but they also contain something called muscarin which is poisonous and it can give you really bad abdominal cramps vomiting diarrhea so any um Field Guide that you read is going to tell you that they have Anita muscaria and panther anoides um are toxic and would suggest that you don't eat them some people detoxify them and you can do that by boiling and then water and then and then you know sauteing them after that and people eat them and uh they say they're good it seems like a lot of trouble to go to you could just eat any other mushroom that's safe you know so solosum and mushrooms uh these are the ones on the bottom they're typically what we call an lbm so a little brown mushroom is usually especially here in the Northwest they're all little brown mushrooms and so they don't have this glittery red with the white spots all over it they're going to be a lot less conspicuous and so these are a psychedelic hallucinogen when people talk about um magic mushrooms this is usually what they're referring to not so much to amanitas but the salasubin mushrooms over 250 species of these exist worldwide and here in the Northwest we have like 12 or 13 that occur here and not even native but they occur and I'm going to be talking about all those today um this is kind of a fun Story the first medical reports of salasubin mushrooms were in 1799 in a London medical journal where a father had gone to Green Park that's his place here in London still exists and people play there today and he forage some wild mushrooms and he went home and he made stew for his family because I guess you have stew in the morning in London in 1799 and uh and so he fed everybody a bowl of this stew and they all started to experience some really weird feelings you know and so they ate the stew at about 9 00 a.m and then they called the Apothecary which is like the doctor of the time at about 10 a.m and said uh we got trouble going on over here I don't know we're all freaking out or whatever and so this doctor goes there to observe this family and so it was a dad and his four kids and uh so they ate this stew and the Apothecary he described what happened then he said Edward one of the children eight years old who had eaten a large proportion of the mushrooms as they thought them was attacked with fits of a moderate laughter uh as um nor could the threats of his father or mother refrain him so it's kind of weird they were like stop laughing to this succeeded vertigo and a great deal of stupor from which he was roused by being called or shaken but immediately relapsed he sometimes pressed his hands on different parts of his abdomen as if in pain but when roused and interrogated as to it he answered it differently yes or no as he did to every other question evidently without any relation to what was asked about the same time the father age 40 was attacked with vertigo and complained that everything appeared black then holy disappeared okay that's weird to to this exceeded loss of voluntary motion and stupor his pupils were dilated and his pulse was slow and uh I actually read the whole medical account of it out of this journal it was super interesting and he went through all the kids and they were all experiencing similar things all their eyes were pure black right and they were and they were all having a terrible bad trip because if you take solosum and mushrooms and you don't mean to it's not going to be very fun you're probably going to be like really surprised with what's happening and so the dad kept saying I think I'm dying and the doctor would go are you okay and he'd go no I'm okay and they say but I think I'm dying and now I know I'm okay I went on for like six hours but just do breakfast so I don't know don't eat the breakfast stew in London I guess or do I don't know so Latin names Latin is now considered a dead language meaning that it's uh it's used in specific context but it doesn't have any native speakers so if you're new to mushrooms or like me I learned out a book so I was learning by like trying to sound out words you know and uh and I always said psilicide which is okay but the most accepted in the mycological community is still also be because Latin often puts a really hard sound on some of these vowels so when it ends with a e like high grassai agricide these are hydrosity egg recipe uh but because Latin is a dead language psilocide is fine too whichever way you want to say it just say it with confidence so Gordon Wasson this is a story that has to be told about magic mushrooms this was a Mycologist back in the 40s and uh 50s and he was just uh obsessed with mushrooms he was a New York Banker but he got really obsessed with mushrooms and uh he traveled the world not just magic mushrooms but he wanted to know everything but he was just a Mycologist and he was good at it and he had the best of intentions and then he heard about the story of mushrooms that make you see Visions in Mexico so he took off uh to go to Mexico and he met this lady picture here Maria Sabina and she's become famous for introducing Western culture to Magic you know philosophy mushrooms and so she took him on one of these spiritual Journeys they didn't consider it getting high as part of their cultural you know spiritual uh you know religious type of uh whatever ceremony and so um he got included on it and so he came back and then went back down there and Life Magazine one of the you know wrote an article about it he kind of exposed these magic mushrooms to the world and uh he had the best of intentions in mind he really you know loved the people of Mexico and stuff but what happened was a lot of hippies jumped in their Vans and they stormed down to Mexico and they took over this town and the people were really unhappy that they all these hippies showed up in town wanting these mushrooms kind of exiled Marina Sabina eventually she died kind of in poverty and it's sort of a sad story and Gordon Wasson was uh kind of villainized for exposing the sacred spiritual thing in the mountains of Mexico but it brought an awareness of psychedelic mushrooms to America and it was clearly more than just Hocus Pocus and Superstition there was something in these mushrooms and so uh the first modern discoveries here in the Pacific Northwest um this uh this is Evergreen State College and the guy up in the top left corner his name is Michael bug and he is a Mycologist uh at Evergreen State University and he um let me see if I can find this so he uh he's still very involved in mycology and he started teaching in 1972 the doors open at Evergreen State University he became a professor in 1972 of mycology there and uh it was 1975 these other guys that happened to be students of his a guy named Paul stamets which a lot of you have probably heard of he does TED talks and he's really famous for his magic mushroom talks Jeremy Bigwood Jonathan Ott these guys are all have wrote really famous books about mycology I happen to know Michael buke and he was a guest in our club meeting so if you're not a club member for kpms we have some super cool guests and he came and gave us a talk all about uh not even about magic mushrooms but he was uh I was texting with him about this subject you know when did the mushroom when we discover them here in the northwest and what he said is in 1975 when Paul stammons Jeremy Bigwood and Jonathan Hawke arrived at my office wanting to study mushrooms I'd never heard of psilocybin or philosophy containing mushrooms in the Pacific Northwest no previous student had ever mentioned then the only mind-altering mushrooms I was aware of were Amanita muscaria and the pantherina those were the names used in that day they had Wass and Soma they'd heard about wasson's trip down to Mexico and so they started analyzing a wide range of mushrooms for psilocybin content Jonathan Ott and Paul stamets were soon naming some of the new species they discovered students started hunting for a philosophy similancietta or liberty caps they were probably introduced from Europe at some point but all of a sudden the mayor was calling Michael beam's office saying what are these students doing out in my lawn crawling around the nearby Penitentiary um the the inmates were out on their hands and he's picking mushrooms out of the grass so the the magic mushroom movement in the Pacific Northwest West was in full swing there thanks to these names and uh so um you know a lot the mushrooms have always been here because people didn't really know about it you know until these guys kind of started to expose it and Paul stamets has really made it really made it famous so um really cool Michael view gives a talk about all about uh all about the sauce event mushrooms and stuff so I'm just going to go into describing some of these mushrooms for you um this one Amanita muscaria and panther annuities so Amanita muscaria is actually a European taxonomy and here in America we just adopted it because it's easy to just call it that it's red with these white Speckles here in the Northwest we have a different variety called flabby Vol Vada and it's got a little yellow a little bit of yellowishness around the um around the rings on the Volvo which is the bulbous base and so like I already explained these aren't your typical magic mushrooms but to fit into a talk called mind altering mushrooms of the Pacific Northwest it would be incomplete without talking about these mushrooms so they're beautiful but I think they should probably be avoided unless you kind of know what you're doing I don't know like I said people don't usually do them a second time [Music] so um but they will alter your mind um then philosophy similancietta this one is known as the liberty cap um and it's the genus type for solosity so all salasubin mushrooms follow um the standards set by the by this mushroom and it's definitely a lbm a little brown mushroom and it often grows on well decomposed cow manure and one of my earliest memories I remember driving with my mom and her boyfriend and I remember going by this cow field and all these people were out there with like Safeway bags and they were crouching around and I remember being like what did they do there and he goes they're looking for magic mushrooms and I remember just being like that sounds awesome I was like eight I don't know but you know I grew up in a farming community and I like I said I got into this stuff when I was a teenager and I scoured the fields day and night looking in Cow Patties to no avail and never found any Liberty cops they seem to be super Elusive and some people seem to find them and I had friends that had found them and they are extremely powerful small little mushrooms and they don't do a lot of bruising so I'll get into talking about that but that's one of the morphological features of salasubin mushrooms is that they they bruise blue not all mushrooms that bruise blue are hallucinogenic but all of these that are hallucinogenic do Blue's clue um so allows would be cyan Essence oh and and the simulantiata probably introduced as Michael Buick said from the UK so this is the same mushroom that that old guy fed to his family for stew in the morning very powerful small mushrooms in it and uh so yeah philosophy cyanescence the wavy fat these pictures were taken in Port Orchard Washington just a couple years ago and you can see they're pretty slimy really caramel colored and they get a feature that's called hydrophanias so as they kind of dry out they'll get a lighter color in the center and then they and uh but they'll rehydrate when it rains again and they get dark and dark thermal Brown again and so definitely an lbm these mushrooms like to grow under um like rhododendrons they love to grow in Beauty Bark they love to grow around police stations and courthouses [Music] but the good thing is you know most police are not mushroom experts so they don't know what you have if you're collecting those um they're called the wavy cap because the margin or the edge of the cap gets a real wavy look to it as they mature and uh they also bruise blue um and you can find these in great numbers uh we used to find them in Tacoma when I was a teenager and some of them get really big you know we found some that had caps that were three or four inches around sometimes pretty crazy but um this one is called philosophy as your resins this one occurs mainly on the coast uh Coastal Washington and down into Northern parts of Oregon growing in the dune grass as you can see here my friend Alan Rockefeller took these photos they have a very unbinant cap so it's got a really really abrupt point on the center of the cap again these will bruise blue and you can really see it right here on the cow and that bruising that probably actually happened from a raindrop hitting it um and so it's a it's a it's a chemical reaction when salasubin metabolizes or uh polymerates into silicon and it actually degrades the hallucinogenic effect when it turns blue but but it's definitely a good indicator so down at like Fort Stevens in in Oregon is a is a famously known place where people on their hippie buses once again flock to the coast and they're combing the beaches and the dune grass and the police are onto it and people get arrested every year for uh picking these and and these are um among the most powerful magic mushrooms in the world so they do occur here they're said to be employed imported from somewhere else too so interesting enough um solosity stencil eye uh this one's known as the blue ringer so this is my friend Alan Rockefeller taking pictures of these particular mushrooms in Gig Harbor Washington last year and they seem to be a little bit rare now it's called a blue ringer because again it's another lbm it's a little brown mushroom these like to grow in Grass often times and they also grow in wood chips but the way that the cap tears away from the stem when they start to mature it leaves a little ring on the stem and that that little action of tearing away will bruise that little ring so it hit the ring is blue that's how they get the name of the blue ringer and in the mid 90s that's when I got introduced personally to magic mushrooms and all these new tracked homes went in in Port Orchard uh like Glenwood station and Creekside those ones in particular I remember somebody saying yeah the grass up there and we would go up there and I mean you just just I mean the patches were thicker than the grass of these mushrooms the saw that they laid down came pre-innoculated with the mushrooms and they just exploded and the whole town was covered in blue ringers right and so it was like 1995 1996 and uh everybody was out of their mind just running around people were mad because there was constantly kids in their yards and flashlights at night you know and I was one of them but it was uh we weren't trying to harm anybody we just wanted the mushrooms you know what I mean usually picking them and putting them in our hats and all the field guides are going to describe philosophy stencil eye as a mild species but that wasn't my experience but but then again you know we were collecting pounds of them I mean packing our hats full and make a batch of tea that was like four cups you know and then we would just lose our minds so this one's philosophy Bao sisters common name bluebells so this one is way less common I use an app called I naturalist and it will tell you what kind of species have occurred and what areas and this one's been observed only six times in Washington state um but also on Wikipedia it says that it's common so I don't know I've never seen him in in real life again Alan Rockefeller took this picture and they really stained blue and they like to grow in wood chips and they can grow right amongst the other ones like the um stuntsy eye or the cyanescence they'll grow with them too another Bluebell uh I mean I'm sorry another lbm and you can really see all the the waviness on the margin really kind of sets these ones apart and they really do turn blue a lot and a very powerful one too from what I hear um this one philosophy ovodiosis didiata uh people call them ovoids it's kind of a mouthful to say avoidiosis didiata but that name is based on morphological features in the microscopy so it's kind of describing the ovoid just idiana I guess I don't know these ones were introduced from the east coast and these ones um one of the videos on my channel is called the Johnny Appleseed of magic mushrooms and this guy goes around and he plants these in all the wood chips and uh around here so um and these are one of the one of the only ones here in the Northwest that fruit in the spring so most of uh all the other ones will fruit in the fall like right now this is happening these ones will fruit in the spring and sometimes in the fall also and so there was a couple of different like phenotypes but none of them are native so they're you know they're kind of big again if you look at the bottom corner of the left photo you can really see that blue bruising really indicative of psilocybin content and this is a closer up picture of some of the bigger ones so this guy literally takes five gallon buckets of wood chips that are inoculated with the mycelium of these mushrooms and then he goes and looks for where the County dumps wood chips or whatever and just digs it all in there and so I don't know you know they're gonna they're gonna be taking over every wood chip Pile in Kitsap County I think this one's philosophy polyculosa this one the Conifer philosophy or the straight philosophy this one is probably the only true native to the Pacific Northwest right here in Washington state and again another lbm but this one isn't going to grow in your road oh well it will grow near rhododendrons but it's not going to grow near your beauty bark beds and in your yards this one grows in the forest it likes a wild setting I took the picture I took both of those pictures actually last year in Port Orchard and the one on the left I I muted out all the other colors just so you could see how caramel color they are and they look pretty slimy it was a really rainy day that day but the stripes on them the Stipe is actually the stem and these ones are really Flacco so they get this really scaly look on the stem and they're said to be a pretty mild species uh last year I went to a clear cut I was riding my mountain bike out near Green Mountain and came to a clear cut and I looked down at my feet and as my eyes on Focus I looked out and it was hundreds of thousands of these mushrooms growing in the clear cut and it's probably like that right now up there you know so um these are actually really common they're really small and they call it the straight philosophy and you can't really see it too well but right here in this picture if you could see it you can see little striations going from the top of the cap to the side to the end of the margin and uh no other solosum and mushroom really has that morphology so I kind of like that as a common name as much as I don't really care for common names the stripes philosophy is a good one because it looks like a mycena except for it's going to have a dark Spore print mycena's are thousands of these little tiny mushrooms that you see growing in the forest these can look a lot like those until you take a closer look and you go oh okay these are the these are sillies so um solosity cubensis this is the one that you're going to find in the parking lot of the Grateful Dead concert this is the one that's growing in people's closets this one has been reported to have shown up in wood chips here in Washington state I've recently saw pictures where somebody said what's this grown in the wood chips so lots of acupenzis is a mushroom that's from a subtropical region so it grows in like Texas Alabama Louisiana Florida down south it grows in Caledon but it's easily cultivated it's fairly powerful and so this is the one that people normally grow and use for medicinal reasons or whatever right here on the right is an example of one that's just a crazy um just a you know an example of all the hybridization and all the breeding that they've done it doesn't even appear anything like a mushroom it's just like this big crazy glob of white and blue and all this Twisted weird Gill formations up on top but these will weigh like two pounds each you know and people are just going crazy uh breeding these mushrooms right so uh yeah philosophy cubensis this one uh really unlikely to find but I just thought you know this this one must be talked about because this if anybody got some at a rock show or something you know whatever that's probably what it was so common morphological features of solosity mushrooms blue bruising so all of these mushrooms bruise blue and you can really see it in that top picture it's a that's actually a scalpel cut a cubensis in half and you can see all that bluing reaction and so it's salasubin that polymerizes into silicon which is actually silicon is really what gets you high on the psilocybin kind of gets the Limelight but really it doesn't it's inactive until it's metabolized by things in your brain anyways it's a really complicated process but they all bruise blue like that there's also some types of bow leads and there's even some lexinum like some Birch bullets that are out here that I brought that are bruising blue it doesn't mean that they're hallucinogenic but and it's a totally different chemical process that makes those ones turn blue um another feature that these all share in common a removable gelatinous pellicle so you can see in this photo there's a slimy layer on top of the cap so if you slowly start to tear the cap apart you'll be able to see that gelatinous layer hang on until it will finally break but that was one of the first features that somebody keyed me on to that that you know magic mushrooms do that and I haven't seen many other mushrooms that have that feature at all so if you have blue bruising and you have that removable gelatinous pellicle you're probably on the right track and then the third feature that I think would totally key these out to make them so you know that they're the salon mushroom is a dark purple brown Spore print so all these mushrooms are going to have a really dark purple brown spawn print and you can find that out by just taking a cap of any mushroom tear the stem off set the cap down on a white piece of paper and leave it overnight you could put a glass over it if you want but it's not necessary and it will leave a little print there and the dark purple brown spores are pretty indicative there's a couple of other species that have a dark purple brown Spore print but they're not going to bruise blue and they're not going to have that removable gelatinous pellicle these are a couple of the other mind altering mushrooms here in the dagro native in the pnw pennyolas sinkilis on the left pinealis cyanescence on the right these are dung-loving mushrooms sometimes they grow just in lawns that have been fortified with manure in the soil they're related to the really common peniolis phonesekiai which is your lawnmower mushroom and everybody's lawn probably has those growing in them they're super duper common and they also have a really like a jet black Spore print um but these are hallucinogenic I think the ones on the right their common name is blue meanies because they also stain blue any of these psilocybin containing mushrooms bruised blue and uh you know people grow these in their closet sometimes too but they occur around here and I've heard it said that they are the most common mind-altering mushroom here in the Northwest even though they look so much like many other lbms that they're kind of hard to identify and they don't have that gelatinous pellet hole on it so and it doesn't have a black I mean a purple brown Spore print this one folio Tina cyanipus this one another look at look at the bottom on the left picture of the bottom of the stems are really bluing right there and once you get to 100 once you see what it looks like when a mushroom is blooming you know you can see it better even in very small amounts you can go oh there's blue bruising right there these ones are related to foliateina regoso which is a deadly mushroom that grows here but it has a really abrupt little ring on the stem these ones don't have that ring but still they're related to a family of mushrooms that could kill you so probably one to avoid this is for like really Advanced mushroomers only and I haven't ever personally found these but I have found their cousin foliatina ragosa which is uh it contains the same compound known as amatoxin that death caps do so they're small little brown mushrooms that grow in your lawn and if you ate enough them you're going to die one of the most horrible deaths you can imagine this one Jim Napoli gymnopilis ludia folius and these were found in Port Orchard last year they like to grow on wood chips or rotten logs I've seen one growing out of a deck railing before so Jim napilis really opportunistic mushrooms and they just with all seek out rotting wood I've seen a landscaping you know log that had them growing out of them and this year it's weird because each year some mushrooms do better than others on different years and this year a lot of I follow a lot of the Facebook identification forums and uh Jim napilis have been popping up like crazy this year which is kind of surprising and it's cool these are got to be like the most beautiful of all the mind-altering mushrooms in my opinion they've got these a really bright orange Spore so when it falls on that ring on the stem it turns it really bright orange and it's got really yellow gills when they're young they're really furry and purple and as they get old they fade to Yellow bright gold and they've got this beautiful Cortina which is all this Webby stuff hanging off the margin right here so I think they're definitely one of the cooler looking mushrooms and and Jim napilis is a family of mushrooms that have several hallucinogenic species that are not salons have been mushrooms but again these do bruise blue but they are mild and extremely extremely bitter so I've heard that they're just not worth it you know he'll just it taste terrible you'd be burping it up and uh it's just not not really worth it um effects and warnings oh uh yeah so sickness associated with muscarin so that's the Amanita you know even one reported death in America supposedly attributed to that but the guy had like serious health problems and uh so it's hard to say that it was really the mushroom that caused it but yeah there's a reason this mushroom isn't illegal it causes what seems like drunkenness tiredness psychosis lethargy and then horrible horrible nightmares um and then over here uh your salons have been mushrooms some of the effects relaxation Euphoria giddiness Distortion of time mood swings intense introspection doesn't sound terrible spiritual or religious experiences difficulty differentiating between fantasy and reality and that part can be dangerous and there have been people who thought they could fly and they jumped off their house or whatever and it didn't end well you know so it's it's a good idea if you're going to do these to have somebody there that can guide you and be in their right mind you know to make sure that but I think it's very rare that things like that happen heightened sensory perception hallucinations and Synthesia mixing of Senses I thought that was so cool because it's so true right hearing colors tasting sounds and if you've ever uh you know experienced solosumin mushrooms you're probably shaking your head a little bit like I know what that feels like right in a bad mind frame it can cause in you know intense anxiety and fear but there are no deaths ever been reported to salazub and mushrooms there was a guy 34 years old who died after eating mushrooms is a couple years ago but when they did toxicology he had like benzodiazepines he had opiates he had alcohol he had all this other stuff in his system and of course they want to like point the finger at mushrooms because he ate mushrooms that night but I think it was just a huge combination of everything this guy was like a toxic waste dump but um you know they they've tested them for addictiveness and uh and it's interesting they did a study with rats where they put rats in a cage and there was a lever with the cocaine right and the rat would hit it it would get some cocaine and it would uh it would forget about water it would forget about food or forget about mating but do nothing but hit the cocaine button then they put in a psilocybin button and they're all went over and it hit the button and it got the psilocybin and it never hit that button again didn't like that so you also gain like a really Str quick and strong tolerance to salsa and mushrooms so if you ate a bunch today and had a really profound experience and you ate the same amount tomorrow it would be less if you did it you know on Tuesday you would just have to Giggles Wednesday you might be smiling more than average by Friday you wouldn't feel a single thing that's how quick we adapt to them it's crazy but uh but absolutely unaddictive in fact most people that do it don't want to do it again you know for at least for quite a while and if you do you know there might be something something wrong there because the current laws about these mushrooms they're federally illegal considered a schedule one drug uh schedule 1 drugs or substances or chemicals which are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse which is kind of crazy that they put put them in here Michael Butte told me that this happened in the 1970s Richard Nixon did it because mushrooms were making people too nice and it was affecting the war effort in Vietnam so they put him as a schedule one drug with Heroin LSD marijuana peyote uh recently Oregon voters passed the 2020 Oregon ballot measure 109 making it uh the first state to both decriminalize psilocybin and also Legalize It for therapeutic use so they're making big steps there to try to harness the power of these mushrooms and use them in a responsible way so we're going a long ways from like getting high to like getting healed you know and it's cool you know something this powerful could be used in a positive way is really really cool so organs uh on the on the Forefront of that Colorado's close behind Seattle of course is closed behind whatever Oregon seems to do um yeah cities in Washington like Seattle and Port Townsend have decriminalized stuff but that's like on a city level you know so as low as priority so I guess the cops aren't going to go after you or if they if they find some magic mushrooms in your possession they're probably just going to look the other way so that's my presentation for today and thank you all for coming out and I'll take some questions after [Applause] how quickly do you see blue blue thing how quickly do you see blue bruising and uh I I think within about 20 minutes to 30 minutes it's not it's not instantaneous like um uh like a butter belief if you're to cut that in half you could just sit and watch it turn blue before your eyes but philosophy mushrooms not so much but so it takes a little bit uh that a friend of yours uh I forgot his name he looks familiar is he a threat by any chance of a dude from a with a thick Detroit accent and a yeah yeah Alan Rockefeller is yeah he's uh crying face but crying pays but Bonnie doesn't yeah so yeah Alan is really well known in the mycological community and he just did a talk at the coast about salasubin mushrooms of North America which I had the pleasure of filming and uploading onto my YouTube channel a little Shameless plug for mushroom Wonderland so check that out if you want to hear Alan Rockefeller he travels all over the world looking at these kind of mushrooms and studying so super interesting you have a video about how like this is a little brown mushroom and then this is not a little brown mushroom sort of comparison well yeah I think a little brown mushroom covers a lot of a lot of types of mushrooms but um I actually made a video last year that was philosophy polyculosa versus gallerina marginata so gallerina is a deadly mushroom and a philosophy folliculosa is a lucinogenic mushroom that people are trying to eat these two are growing right next to each other so I made a video about the dangers and how to differentiate the two and that was the one warning that I've got from YouTube they said that that's dangerous content so I was like okay well I thought it was probably a lot of harm reduction it was probably one of the more useful videos you know because people are going to go out and pick these regardless so it's better to be safe and knowledgeable in my opinion are there any studies on how long it takes silicon to degrade out of your system that's a good question are there any studies about how long it takes for silicon to get out of your system um I don't even know dude like are you talking about for like a urinalysis test or something like that or like I mean like you said the tolerance and oh oh gotcha that's really high yeah you know I don't know that I would love to pontificate but I'm not good enough because I don't know but that is interesting so yeah thanks for that question I'm going to look it up [Music] yeah way in the back what colors Forefront would the gala rhinos have so gallerina is like a really um it's a brown brownish orange sport brand so um that one yeah it's a it's kind of a lighter brown color and uh the gallerina are probably the most commonly confused so as far as like look-alikes um gallerina is a concern here because it likes to grow on wood mulch just like philosophy cyanescence they can grow near each other and uh but it's not gonna have that dark purple brown Spore print and it's not going to bruise blue and it's not going to have the removable gelatinous pellicle so if you compare everything against those three criteria you're going to be safe [Music] yeah those uh gallerinas those are also really really commonly misidentified and mushroom forms too so sometimes people will find them and they'll post them and then they're misidentified yeah yeah and then there is that threat you know and that's one thing about online identification forums is you got some people just spouting things they have no idea what they're talking about and it can be dangerous that way you know so how do we find your YouTube uh presentation or so just go on youtube.com and look up the words mushroom Wonderland and lick my hat and uh yeah there's all kinds of videos there's you know 120 different videos I do a lot of foraging mainly of wild edible mushrooms and just everyday mushrooms and all kinds of uses for mushrooms so this is a small sliver about what I talk about but it just felt like a topic that should be covered here can you forage for Edibles all year round absolutely you know you just gotta find where it's moist enough but all year I've been finding mushrooms even with the long extended dry summer you can find little micro habitats little small climates where the moisture is right and fungus finds a way you know so oyster mushrooms grow all year round on down logs you know super easy one to identify and find so if you're into foraging wild edible mushrooms yeah they're they're out here but sometimes you know like David said he's got about a dozen mushrooms if you want to forage all year round you might have to expand that number a little bit you know but there's a lot of good edible mushrooms out here have you noticed with the heat that the availability of mushrooms has really changed over the last couple of years yeah it's weird it seems like uh you know all the all the months have like shifted back a month or something so um it's weird I think we're we're finally getting going to have an explosion of mushrooms it's happening right now but we're looking at freezing temperatures coming up which mushrooms don't care for that much but again we live in a coniferous kind of environment and there's a lot of micro habitats and that hard Frost is what really is going to slow things down I think we're going to be fine through Christmas we're going to be finding tons of mushrooms auger things kind of slow down in January but you know even this last winter I kept picking mushrooms all the way up until morel season which is spring so there's always something out there to find all right any more questions we're gonna get ready for Daniel Winkler he's a famous Mycologist and author he's out here selling books and stuff and he gives a really cool talk all about wild edible mushrooms fruits of the forest so thank you all very much [Applause]
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Channel: Mushroom Wonderland
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Keywords: mushrooms, magic mushrooms, wild mushrooms, fungi, fungus, mycology, Psilocybe, psilocibin, foraging, psychedelics, legal magic mushrooms, mushroom hunting, mushroom identification, fungi id, drugs
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Length: 43min 43sec (2623 seconds)
Published: Sun Nov 13 2022
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