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Safe security system at simplysafe.com/KendallRae. (gentle music) Hello everyone and welcome back. So happy to have you here
with me to discuss another wild case, yeah, we'll
get into that in a sec. If you are new welcome,
happy to have you here. Yeah, guys, this one is a wild one. We are going to be talking about
Greg and Michelle Williams, and I wanna just jump right into this one because there is a lot to go over. So we're gonna start out by
talking about Miss Michelle. Michelle Marie, a very interesting
person to say the least. And from a young age, she seemed to set out
on a path that was kind of bound for trouble, she
and her little sister, Laura, were born and raised in Hearst, Texas, where they stayed for quite some time. And according to those
who knew their family, their father was not the best person. He's often described as a con
artist, a shady character. And Michelle kind of picked
up everything she knew from her dad, Michelle went
to LD Bell High School, but dropped out at age 17
after she became pregnant for the first time. And even though the baby's
father was a man named John Paul Ray, Michelle told another boy, Kenneth O'Brien that the baby was his. So Kenneth married her and Michelle and Kenneth began raising their
child the best they could, given their circumstances. Kenneth ended up joining the military to earn
money for their family, and they moved around quite a
bit to accommodate his work. But this was a short lived relationship. Their marriage quickly fell
apart after Michelle reconnected with a guy from middle school,
actually named Brandon Dixon. All those years later, they reconnected in their
twenties and really hit the ground running in their relationship. But just like her previous
relationship with Kenneth, this one was also filled
with problems, at first, Brandon was kind of blinded by
love and really couldn't see the manipulation that was
happening right in front of him. There was a lot of distractions. They ended up having two
children together themselves. But as time went on, he began to see Michelle's true character. Michelle was kind of a
professional liar in a way. She was very good at lying
and lied to get pretty much everything in her life. And it turns out that right
before these two were supposed to get married, he found out that she
actually was still married to Kenneth legally, so that was a problem. And of course, a good liar
knows how to try to weasel out of their lies when they're caught. So she tried to make up
a whole story to Brandon that Kenneth was abusive to
her, and because of that, she said she was too afraid
to send him divorce papers and too embarrassed to tell anyone the truth, and of course,
Brandon loved Michelle, so he tried to take her
word for it and believe her, but he was suspicious
about the whole thing. And at the time, Michelle was employed
as a dental assistant, but Brandon was very suss
about how much she was actually working there, he was
often questioning, you know, where she was spending a lot of her time. But eventually she lets her
family know that she has quit the dental assistant position
because she has gotten a new job working nights as a telemarketer, but in reality, she was fired
from her dental assistant job because she was caught stealing from them. So, and of course now
that she's working nights, Brandon's even more suspicious
about what she's really doing when she's at work. So one day he decides to
ask her for the phone number for the telemarketing
company just in case he or the kids need her, you know,
in an emergency situation. And she gave him a phone number. Now you're probably guessing
it's gotta be a fake phone number because she probably
didn't want him calling up this telemarketing company and
figuring out when she was working when she wasn't, well,
it wasn't a fake number, it was a real number, but not
to the telemarketing company. It was to a topless bar, which was actually where she
was really working at the time. So Brandon ends up going to
the bar and confronts her there about lying to him about
where she was working. And as you can imagine, it didn't go well. She was not happy. And he tells her that she can
either leave the bar and go with him home or stay and give
up her family essentially. So because he was threatening
to take her kids away, she left the bar and went
home with her husband. But the charades were far from over time, Brandon started to suspect
that Michelle was cheating on him, so he decides to
try to catch her in the act. He sets up a tape recorder
inside their house and he's hoping to pick something up. But not only was she cheating on him, she did so with two different
men in their family home. Brandon found out about this
and he was not happy clearly. So he decides to tell Michelle
that he wants a divorce, and when she hears this,
she is also not happy. And to get revenge, Michelle goes to some
very extreme measures. First, she decides to pour
out and kill thousands of dollars worth of salt water
fish that Brandon collects. He has an aquarium,
it's a big hobby of his. But not only that, she
also poisons his dalmation. Brandon had a dalmation
who he loved named Domino, and she knew it would really
hurt him if this dog died. So she poisons him, she brings him to the
vet and convinces them that the dog needs to be
put down and they do it. Now, if that is not truly evil, I don't know what is kind
of a personal tangent here, but I just wanted to mention
this because I think it is so insane when people
mess with other people's pets for revenge, so my uncle,
when I was growing up, was married to this woman
for just a few years, and one time he went out
of town for a business trip and she was very jealous
of how much attention he gave his two little dogs. So she took them to a pound
like three hours away and then called him on this business
trip and was like, oh my God, the dogs got out, I'm trying to find them. And he dropped everything and
flew home to find his dogs. I can't remember exactly how, but he tracked them down
and found them at the pound. So luckily he got them back, but that's some real crazy
shit to another level. So that whole story tells us a lot about Michelle's character,
as you can imagine, after that whole fiasco, the two of
them were definitely donezo. So Brandon files for divorce, and Michelle kind of happily
moves on at that point as well. So after this marriage fails, remember I told you that
the first guy she was with, Kenneth was not actually the father of her son, it was actually
someone else named John, well, she decides to reconnect with John, the real father of her child. Things are going pretty well with John until they were not going well. And John starts to figure out that Michelle's probably
cheating on him as well. So he goes through her
purse to find like signs of infidelity, and when he looks through her purse, he finds
a receipt for a dog collar, whipped cream and cherries. And a note that says buy
birthday card for Greg, now, you're probably
wondering who Greg is, well, so was John, I'll tell
you about Greg here in a sec. But she and John were
reported to be in a common law marriage at this point for
about eight years before they finally split, so she spent
a decent chunk of time with him, but now it was
over and she was on to Greg. But of course she has to
ruin John's life a little bit before she goes. So one day he returned to their place to collect the rest of his
belongings after they had split. And he found out that Michelle
was having a garage sale to get rid of all his stuff, pretty evil. But anyway, she was
now already on to Greg. So Greg Williams had also
been married two times and had a child before meeting Michelle. The two of them met in 2007
in an online community, and they had quite an
eventful first date, Michelle, Greg and Greg's brother all
end up going to sort of a swinger's club and things got
very spicy there very quickly. And the night ended with
Michelle performing sexual acts on Greg in front of everyone
there, including his brother. Now this obviously isn't uncommon
in the swinger community, and I'm definitely not trying
to shame anyone's sexual preference here, for the most part, those who partake in sex
parties are informed, willing, consenting, mature adults, and it is absolutely
their right to do that. I see nothing wrong with it, but I just wanted to mention
this because I think it's important when you look at
Michelle's overall personality. Michelle was definitely
a very sexual woman, but she often used that to
get things that she wanted. So Greg's ex-wife is named Cathy, and the two of them got along
pretty well despite being divorced, you know, they knew that they had to put
all their differences aside to co-parent their child
who is named Taylor. And they did a pretty good job at that. Michelle seemed to be the
one thing that really came between them, and when Greg
and Michelle got married, it was no secret that Cathy
was not happy about it. She just knew that Michelle was trouble, but ultimately there was nothing
that she could do about it. But what particularly angered Cathy, is that Michelle was
trying to drive a wedge between Greg and their daughter Taylor. Michelle hated how much
time Greg was spending with his daughter, which would honestly be an
attractive thing to most people. But anyway, eventually Michelle decides
to do something about it. So she makes up a story that
this 12 year old girl has a drug problem, Cathy and Greg, of course, both doubted this was true, but one day Michelle ends up
in the hospital due to opiate ingestion and she claims that
little 12 year old Taylor drugged her coffee. So Michelle spent two
days at Baylor Hospital, and Taylor was sent to a drug
rehab facility even though there was no evidence to
prove that she took drugs or even drugged Michelle. Can you imagine ending up
in that situation at age 12? Unreal and Michelle did all that just to try to get some more attention from Greg, which he already
was giving her plenty of attention, but she was
jealous of his daughter, so again, tells you a lot about Michelle. So eventually Greg and
Michelle decide to have a baby together, they have a
baby girl named McKayla, and she became the center of their worlds. Now, they lived in a very
affluent area on Jacob Ave in Keller, Texas, which is the kind of place
where kids could grow up safely. And crime was kind of a distant idea. It was one of those neighborhoods, Dateline or whatever
always says was somewhere that crime never happened. So it was shocking to see
what would unfold next, but it really was, and they
were really live in the dream. They were doing very well financially. Michelle seemed to live as
if she really had no budget. Neither of them could really
afford how much she was spending, but she was constantly going out and buying herself expensive
things, buying her daughter, expensive things like designer
items, really pricey stuff. The two of them both had
matching Mercedes-Benz, even though they were leasing
them, they didn't own them. So their mansion became kind
of the hotspot of the family. They would have many parties there. And the two of them were
just these, you know, super fun loving people
that had a lot of money. And so of course,
Michelle's other kids often would visit, but her two sons, honestly, they weren't that fond of her either, but they were
really not fond of Greg. They thought he was kind of
a bully that he was arrogant. And I'm not sure if those things are true, but they were not big Greg fans. And when it came to their mother, of course they had love for her, but their relationship with
her was not the normal mother son relationship, she
had for the most part, moved on with her life and
was constantly starting new as someone else who could offer her more. And she seemed to kind of
forget about her past lives in the process, but now
Michelle was very happy in life. I mean she was living lavishly thanks to Greg because
he was pretty successful. He had started his own IT
business called DFW IT Pro, where he was making kind of enough money to support their lifestyle, but neither of them could truly
afford the amount that she was putting on credit cards
and spending every week. And Michelle was conveniently
Greg's bookkeeper. So she had control of how much
money he thought they had, and it turns out she was
actually manipulating the numbers to make it look
like they were much richer than they really were, so at one point, Greg decides to buy her a
little frozen yogurt shop as kind of a project to
keep her busy, I mean, it's not really understood why
she wanted this yogurt shop so bad, I mean, she didn't really spend a lot
of time actually running it. It really did seem like it was
something to kind of keep her busy, the two of them also
owned a weight training gym, and they were both very
passionate about fitness. And Michelle's passion for fitness was way beyond casual workouts. During one of the parties that
they threw at their mansion, Michelle met a body
builder named Jean Wallace. Jean was a friend of one of
her sons and was a lot younger than she was, but this did not
stop her from wanting to be with this, you know, young,
good looking fitness expert. But from the outside it
didn't appear like things between Greg and Michelle were rocky. So if she was having this affair,
like many suspect she was, Greg seemed to be none
the wiser and they had a lot that they were
looking forward to together. On October 12th, 2011, the two of them were about
to close on this new house that they were building. Greg was extremely eager for
this move and had already began to plan what renovations they
wanted to do in this new home. He was really looking forward
to building an aquarium. Hopefully this time Michelle
wouldn't kill a fish and also a pool for their
daughter to play in. This was going to be their dream house, and you know, on paper, the
two of them had the dream life. But the dream turned into
a nightmare very quickly because on October 13th, 2011
at 4:40 AM the Keller Police Department received a
frantic phone call from Michelle Williams who said
that her husband had just been killed, so according to Michelle, the two of them had been up late that night talking about how
they wanted their new house to look, what kind of
renovations they wanted to do. She first told the officers
that she ended up falling asleep on the couch that night with her daughter, and then she was awoken by a
loud sound coming from their bedroom, so she runs to the
bedroom to see what happened. And when she gets there, she said she was immediately struck in the head with a metal
wrench, she was knocked to the ground, but managed to see
a man dressed in all black. As he grabbed Greg's gun and shot him in the temple, obviously a team
of officers were dispatched to the scene and when they got to the house, they found Michelle
crying on her front porch. And because she told them that
an intruder had been in their home, they of course began
by doing a thorough sweep of the property and the
backyard where she told 'em the killer had escape
to, and within an hour, their whole house was filled
with police, detectives, and forensic analysts inside the home. They found her daughter still sleeping on the couch and Greg lying
motionless in their bed. So Michelle and Greg's bedroom had a door that led to their backyard,
and right outside this door, police found a 45 caliber
gun, a shell casing, and the wrench that she was hit with. But what they didn't find
was any sign of forced entry or any evidence that anything
had been stolen, however, the back door had clearly
been scratched at, but the bolt and lock
were in perfect condition, almost as if someone tried to make it look like there was a break in. So it's already looking like
the story Michelle has told the police is not matching
with the crime scene, but then detectives find an
empty bottle of Clorox wipes and they realized that
whatever they had been told that night was probably not
the truth, so after this, Michelle is brought in for
questioning at the Keller Police Department, and it's early
morning at this point. And at the time she was
not considered a suspect and she was allowed to leave at any point during questioning, which
went on for five hours. And everything that she initially
told police does not align with what they found at her
house, and on top of that, they immediately
determined that there were no fingerprints on the gun, the wrench, or the door where
Michelle said the intruder came in from, there were
no fingerprints anywhere. So it was very obvious that
those Clorox wipes had been used to clean everything, also, they started looking at all
the neighbors security cameras, and there is no footage of
any new vehicles in that area. The only quote, new person who drove through
was a pizza delivery person who was quickly cleared. But for the first few
hours of questioning, Michelle stuck to her
story that an intruder came into their home. But the detective questioning
her definitely didn't believe a word she was saying. And at the end of the day,
crime scenes don't lie. And the detective started
asking her questions like how an intruder would have
even gotten into their house? If they clearly didn't break down the door or go through a window
or something like that, there was just no evidence of
anything like that happening. We can't find where anybody
broke into the house, so the question I how did
someone access the house. - I had a key outside. - Okay. - In the grill right behind that back door in the bottom drawer. - And as the hours went
by chatting with Michelle, the detective eventually seemed
to have enough and he said he couldn't accept anything
that Michelle was saying. And he says that he has a
theory about what actually happened that night, and
he presents it to Michelle. He tells Michelle about how one
time he worked, a case where the husband had committed
suicide and the wife cleaned up the evidence to make it
look like he was killed so that she could collect on
his life insurance policy. And then he asks Michelle
if that is what happened in this situation, and
at first she denies it. She sticks to her story
that there was an intruder. - You had nothing to do with it. - I had nothing. - You didn't try to cover up the scene. - No. - Blew the gun or anything, touched the gun, touched the wrench or anything of that nature. - No, I did not touch anything. I had nothing to do with
whatever happened in there. - You either did it yourself or something, so you need to, you need to tell me if
he's self-inflicted it. You need to tell me. I mean, this is it. I don't, you know, we're
getting to wits end. You've got to be honest with Michelle. If he did it and you
covered it up, just tell me. - But eventually she changes her story and she tells the officer
that he was right, now, I might be completely wrong
and I'm certainly no expert, but it seems like a strange
tactic to present someone with a story that they
could go with essentially, I mean, that's what he really did. He gave her an alternative
story she ends up running with, it, it doesn't seem like
such a great plan to me, but what do I know, but it
happened, and because of it, Michelle was able to quickly run with this new version of events. - Move the gun. And then I started to really
panic it 'cause I mean, okay, now what do I do with that,
so the gun's over there and I knew I had to make
it look like a burglary. - So Michelle's new story
was that she and Greg stayed up late talking
about the new house, and then around 1:00 AM
she decided it was time for bed, although Greg stayed awake. She said she saw him take at
least three Tylenol PM pills before she went to sleep. And then two hours later she
was woken up by her daughter. And after she woke up, Michelle says she took her
daughter to the living room where they eventually fell
asleep together on the couch. And she says that Greg is still awake around 3:00 AM when this happens. Then she tells the officer that
she asked Greg if he needed anything while she was
awake, but according to her, all he wanted was to be left alone because he didn't feel good. Then she goes back to where
her daughter is sleeping on the couch, falls asleep, and then she's awoken by
a sound in their bedroom. And she said she
immediately thought it was the sound of a gunshot, and when she ran into the room, she sees
that Greg had shot himself in the head and she immediately panics. She then claims that she
doesn't want her daughter to see that her father had killed himself. So she needs to convince
everyone that he actually was murdered for the sake of her daughter. So she decides to stage
the crime scene in order to make it look like an intruder
came in and killed Greg. So Michelle says the first
thing she did was wipe Greg's hands down with those Clorox wipes and then dried them off with toilet paper. Obviously this is to attempt
to get rid of any gunshot residue, then she says she
takes more Clorox wipes, wipes down the gun and neatly places it on the floor by the back door. And that's obviously the weird
thing here is this gun was found just casually placed
next to the back door, I mean, who's going to come into
the house, do nothing, commit a murder, leave the murder weapon, and then neatly leave without
even showing a sign that they entered, obviously
investigators think this is all from the beginning. And she claims that she did all
this as quickly as she could because she was hoping maybe
there was enough time for first responders to get there and
actually save Greg's life. So the next thing she does is call 911. After that, she explains
that while she's waiting for emergency services to get there, she decides to take a
screwdriver and make scratches on the door to make it
look like someone broke in. And then after that, she claims that she grabbed a
wrench from her laundry room and hit herself across her
right cheek so hard that it would bruise and appear as
if an intruder struck her. And while all this is going down, Michelle claims that her
daughter is just sleeping peacefully on the couch, and
after this new confession, Michelle is read her Miranda rights and arrested for filing
a false police report. Something still seemed off
about the way she was acting. However, this story aligned with what they had learned
from the crime scene, so until they learned
more from Greg's autopsy, they kind of had to just go
with the suicide story for now. So when it got out to his friends and family that Greg had
committed suicide, they did not buy it, especially his
mother and his ex-wife Cathy. They said that they just
didn't think he would do this. And they brought up the
fact that a year prior in 2010, one of Greg's best
friends committed suicide and he was crushed. He was devastated about the
whole thing and it just, you know, really put him in a
dark place for a little while. And one thing that he would always say, and
it's kind of messed up, but he would say that suicide
is a chicken way to go. So they just felt like he
wouldn't have done that. Plus there was nothing in his
personal life that pointed to him struggling with depression or any other mental health disorder. There was nothing going
wrong as far as people knew. So outside of not really
believing that Greg did this, people were extremely confused
by Michelle's behavior following his death,
the day after he died, Michelle went over to her
sister's house and she didn't even bring Greg up, she barely spoke about him. And this was the day after,
her sister said that she was crying every once in a
while, on and off briefly, but she never had any
actual tears coming out. And then after spending
the day with her sister, she decides to spend the night
there and her sister said she woke up eager the next
morning to go to Ihop. Obviously that's very weird
if your husband had just committed suicide the day before. And this was really just the beginning of her strange behavior. Actually, one of the
first things that she did was contact her lawyer
and write an $18,000 check from Greg's business account
to pay their attorney fees. And she immediately started
selling off their assets, including the frozen
yogurt shop, Blueberries. She sold it on Craigslist for $50,000, and then, and this is really weird, Michelle sells Craig's IT business, which was very successful,
he had, you know, a lot of clients, he was doing well, she sold it for 8,000 bucks. Then she hopped into Greg's
BMW with her daughter and took a week long vacation
where she was spotted at several sports bars and
shopping for Halloween costumes. So clearly Michelle was
not behaving like you would think a grieving wife would. And of course I know grief does
look different on everyone, but everyone felt like
there was something more to this story after seeing
the way Michelle was behaving. So during this very
strange week of vacation, Michelle gets in contact
with one of her sons, Andrew, and completely surprised him when she said that her original story
about Greg dying as a result of an intruder was the truth. She tells him that the
only reason she told police that he actually took his
own life was because that's what they wanted to believe,
and Andrew believed her. I mean, he really didn't
have a reason not to. I mean, Greg wasn't his father,
Michelle was his mother. And even though they had
sort of a rocky relationship, he believed her, I mean he trusted her. But then of course things start
taking a wild turn because Michelle tells her son that
she wants him to round up a few friends and help his mommy
frame her husband's ex-wife for his murder. But she tells Andrew that
she actually does think that Cathy is responsible
for Greg's death, but she doesn't have any way to prove it. So she needs to create
some proof with his help. So she tells him that he needs
to go buy an Excel sweatshirt and then he needs to wear
it while firing a gun so that gunshot residue ends
up on it and then she wants him to stuff it under Cathy's car seat. So obviously that means that
Andrew and his friends would need to break into her car and
then plant the evidence under the driver's seat, and then
after they plant the evidence, Michelle wants them to call
the police on a payphone with an anonymous tip about the
sweatshirt being in Cathy's car. The police find it and then you know, she'll end up being convicted
for his murder, no problem. She clearly thinks this
is a brilliant idea, but luckily Andrew disagrees. He knows that this is stupid
and illegal and he does not want to partake, and
when he doesn't go along with the plan, she decides to take
matters into her own hands. And for whatever reason, Andrew doesn't tell police
about his mother's plan and she doesn't end up going through with it anyway, so
it doesn't really matter. But what she does start doing
is taking the necessary steps to collect on Greg's
life insurance policies. Now, in order to collect on
someone's life insurance, you obviously need to explain
the cause of death because certain deaths can disqualify
someone from their policy. So when Michelle reported Greg's death, she put the cause of death
down as homicide even though police had a written
statement from Michelle saying that his cause of death was suicide. So the clerk who reviewed her
submission obviously doesn't know that, but of course
reading that Greg was killed, sparked in interest. So they decide to Google Greg and Michelle and try to learn more. And something about the whole
thing seemed a little fishy to him, so he ends up calling
police and lets them know that Michelle has inquired
about getting her husband's life insurance money, and in total, Greg had three policies with
three different life insurance companies, one policy
with Gerber Life Insurance for $150,000, one policy with
Garden Life Insurance for about $150,000 and a policy
with Pavoni for about $500,000. And each of these life
insurance policies has a suicide clause written into them stating
that if the person holding the policy died by
suicide within two years of obtaining the policy, no money would be rewarded
to the policies recipient. And all of Greg's policies
were less than two years old. So obviously there were
many questions looming in the days and weeks
following Greg's death. But finally on November 3rd, 2011, the medical examiner finished the autopsy. And I'm sure nobody here will be surprised to hear that the results were
not consistent with suicide. A report from the Tarrant
County medical examiner's office stated that Greg's cause of
death was a single gunshot wound to the temple and the manner
of death was homicide. The medical firearms examiner
determined that Greg could not have shot himself because the
gun was fired at a distance of at least six inches away from
his head, as most of us know, when someone tries to take
their own life with a gun, most of the time the weapon is placed directly against their skin. And the autopsy also revealed
that Greg had a sedative in his system when he passed. And this sedative was not
the Tylenol PM that Michelle claimed he took, as for
evidence, found a Michelle, a trace examiner found
gunshot residue on the cuffs and sleeves of the jacket
that she wore that night. Now this isn't entirely surprising
because Michelle did say she cleaned up most of the
evidence that night with Clorox wipes and gunshot residue can
be transferred from person to person if they're in close
proximity after the gun is fired. But they said the amount
of gunshot residue on her clothing was overwhelming. And so they became certain
that Michelle was responsible for her husband's murder. They just needed a little bit more time to build their case against her. And apparently it didn't take long for them to build that
because on January 9th, 2012, she was walking into Lifetime
Fitness in Flower Mound, Texas when she was arrested
on three charges, murder, tampering with evidence, and
filing a false police report. And her bond was
originally set to $520,000, but it quickly dropped to
$82,000 and she was bailed out after eight days, and while
she was awaiting her trial, Michelle wasted no time
moving on with her new life and her new man, remember Jean Wallace, the one who was 15 years younger than her? Yes, he became her boyfriend
and she moved in with him and they opened up a kettleball
fitness business, also at this time, she changes
her name to Shelly Williams. And what's pretty wild is despite the story of Greg's death
being pretty big news in the area, no one seemed to make the connection that Shelly
was actually Michelle, who was still awaiting
trial for his murder. - Kettle bell workouts have
been around since 1704. The Russian military actually started with it to strengthen their lives. It's used for lots of
sports specific workouts, a personal trainer, and I've been teaching Kettle
Bell with other routines. - You're in a group atmosphere, so it pushes you more than
you can push yourself, especially with the type of
instruction that you get from. - Shelly, so that brings us to the trial, which finally
starts on October 9th, 2013, which is almost two years
after Greg was murdered. And I'm assuming Michelle did
not feel very confident about her chances, so instead of
rolling the dice with the jury, Michelle accepted a plea deal
where she would serve 18 years for deadly conduct and
tampering with evidence. But being the liar that she is, Michelle figured out a way to
delay her sentencing and she decides to tell the judge that
she is pregnant with twins. So the judge allows her to remain on house arrest
until after she gave birth. And it was estimated that she
would give birth some time in April, 2014 and her sentencing hearing would be scheduled after
that, and in the meantime, Michelle would wear a
GPS monitor to track all of her movement while
she was on house arrest, so during this time, she is
supposedly at home and pregnant with twins awaiting her
scheduled hearing, however, that is all exposed on January 30th, 2014 when she has to show up at
court and she's not pregnant. But of course Michelle has an excuse. She says that she suffered a
miscarriage around Christmas time, and whether you believe
that or not is up to you. It seems like a lot of people
don't given her track record, however it's possible that she
really did go through that. But now that they knew
that she wasn't pregnant, Michelle was put in jail and
they scheduled her sentencing hearing, although it
wasn't long after that, she would stir up even more
controversy in her case. On February 4th, 2014, Michelle sat down with the
Fort Worth Star Telegram newspaper and talked about
the plea deal that she took. - With a plea deal, I'm looking at a couple years
before I vote for parole and they say, if you make first
parole, I'll make first parole. I'm walk in a straight line. Anything they tell me
to do, I'm gonna do it. It's a set guaranteed time
for this terrible nightmare to end, if I win, yeah, I
win big, but it's a gamble, it's a huge gamble, I'm scared
to death, I'm devastated. I'm trying to mentally get there. You know, I've, right now while I'm here, some people think a private
cell would be awful and scary. It's the safest feeling you
could possibly imagine because I'm not a criminal and the
fear of being in with people who are, and I'm not saying
they're all criminals, but in the unit that I'm in, it's much safer feeling to be inside that little cell by
yourself, but the hours go so slow, you're sitting
there looking at four walls, thinking about your friends and family and knowing that you voluntarily
signed up for years left. So I'm actually, if you could say, looking forward to
getting a sentencing over with so I can start moving
towards the end of this hell. - And then the following
day, February 5th, Michelle sat down with
the crew from 48 Hours and completely changed her
story, during her interview, Michelle said that she wasn't
guilty of any of the crimes that she had been accused
of, and because of this, her plea deal was thrown out
and she'd have to await her fate at the hands of a
jury, then on March 6th, Michelle attended a bond
hearing to determine if she would be waiting out the murder
trial in jail or at home. And at that hearing, the
prosecutor revealed evidence that while Michelle was
previously on house arrest, while she was allegedly pregnant, she tampered with her
GPS monitoring device. It turns out Michelle had asked for the device to be
a little loose because she was pregnant and there's
a lot of swelling involved. Believe me, I know. They agreed and they loosened
the device just loose enough that Michelle was
able to slip right out of it. After reviewing the data,
prosecutors found out that 26 out of the 30 days that Michelle
was being monitored, there was no movement
whatsoever for the monitors. So for it to pick up absolutely nothing, she would've had to be completely
sitting still for 26 days. Obviously that it's just not possible. And that was just for November. She also had 23 out of 30 days
with no activity in December. So obviously they realized
that Michelle had removed the device herself. And it was confirmed that during November and December Michelle was
working at a strip club and Sports Cafe in Hearst, Texas. And on top of this, there was also no data to
suggest that she ever visited a doctor after saying she was pregnant. And when they asked her about it, she couldn't name
a doctor that she was seeing for her pregnancy, so after this hearing, a judge decided that
Michelle would be held at the Tarrant County Jail
without bond until her trial. So that brings us to September
23rd, 2014, the trial begins, and one of the many people that testified against Michelle was her son Andrew. And it was then that he came
forward and told the whole court that his mother
had tried to coerce him to help him frame Cathy. He also stated that he
believed that she was going to pin the whole thing on
his brother or other son Lee. He explained how back in January of 2013, Michelle contacted Andrew and
told him that she believed Lee could have been the one to kill Greg. He couldn't believe that
she even went there. And at that point he said
he had to cut his mother off because there was just no coming back from trying to frame your son
for a murder you committed. And Lee himself also
testified against his mother and he explained that one
time when he visited her while she was on house arrest, she bragged him about how she was able to slip the ankle monitor on and off. And another main component
during this trial was the interrogation video of
Michelle in the hours after Greg's murder. And the jury was able to see
for themselves how she changed her story, not once, not
twice, but six different times. Her defense team did try to get the interrogation video thrown
out of evidence, obviously, because it was not looking good for them, and they argued that it should
be thrown out because she hadn't been read her Miranda
rights when she was brought in. But ultimately she
wasn't being interrogated as a suspect and was allowed
to leave at any point. She just chose not to do so. So the trial went on for six days, and finally on September 29th, 2014, after seven hours of deliberation, a jury came back and convicted
Michelle on one count of murder and one count of
tampering with evidence. Michelle ended up being
sentenced to 60 years in prison and she won't even be
eligible for a parole hearing until she completes the first 30 years. It's very sad that Greg got involved with Michelle not knowing what
this woman was capable of. She's clearly just honestly an evil person and selfish to an extreme extent, I mean, trying to throw an innocent woman under the bus is bad enough, but then also trying to throw
your son under that bus too, wow, so of course I
wanna know your thoughts on this case, on Michelle,
on how all of this unfolded. It is just insane, but before
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it for me today, guys. I will be back next week with a new video, as of right now, I'm
trying to post on Mondays. I've never really committed
too much to a schedule, especially in the last
year when I was pregnant because I know, you know, don't really have to explain
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