Michael Cohen On Giuliani: ‘He’s Going To Get Stiffed’ | The ReidOut | MSNBC

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>>> NEW REPORTING THIS WEEK >>> NEW REPORTING THIS WEEK SUGGESTS THAT TRUMP FIXER RUDY GIULIANI MAY BE CASH-STRAPPED AS HE FACES A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION AND TWO DEFAMATION LAWSUITS. NOW THE DISGRACED FORMER MAYOR HAS, GASP, CUT DOWN HIS ENTOURAGE, LAYING OFF SEVERAL STAFFERS AND INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, THATS ACCORDING TO POLITICO WHICH REPORTS THAT GIULIANI NO LONGER MOVES AROUND MANHATTAN WITH THE FULL COMPLEMENT OF AS MANY AS FIVE PEOPLE HE HAS KEPT AROUND HIM IN RECENT YEARS. A PERSON FAMILIAR WITH THE MATTER SAYS HIS FORMER EMPLOYEES WERE TOLD THAT THE FORMER NEW YORK MAYOR WAS SEEKING TO CUT COSTS. "THE NEW YORK TIMES" ALSO REPORTED THIS WEEK THAT THE FORMER NEW YORK MAYORS ADVISERS WANT DONALD TRUMP TO USE HIS $250 MILLION WAR CHEST TO PAY FOR HIS EFFORTS TO OVERTURN THE 2020 ELECTION. HOWEVER, PEOPLE CLOSE TO TRUMP SAID THAT HE WAS STRIDENTLY REFUSING TO DO SO. I MEAN, HE DOESNT PAY HIS BILLS. WE ALSO KNOW GIULIANI IS NOT EXACTLY FRUGAL WHEN IT COMES TO HIS SPENDING HABITS. POLITICO REPORTS ONE OF THE EX-WIVES OF THE MAN WHO MADE MILLIONS MONETIZING HIS POST-9/11 REPUTATION HAS ALLEGED IN COURT FILINGS THAT RUDY HAS SHELLED OUT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON A PRIVATE JET SERVICE, AND THAT HE SPENT $12,000 ON CIGARS ALONE. ITS BEEN WELL-REPORTED HES A HIGH ROLLER AT THE NEW YORK CIGAR CLUB, THE HAVANA ROOM. ON TOP OF THAT, HE PAYS $42,000 A MONTH IN ALIMONY TO HIS THIRD EX-WIFE, ACCORDING TO "THE WASHINGTON POST." THE LATEST REPORTING ON GIULIANIS FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES COMES AFTER THE FEDERAL INVESTIGATION OF GIULIANIS DEALINGS IN UKRAINE INTENSIFIED LAST WEEK WITH THE FBIS RAID OF HIS APARTMENT. THERES NO TELLING WHAT PROSECUTORS MAY UNCOVER ON THE ELECTRONIC DEVICES THEY SEIZED. NOW GEORGE CONWAY WRITES IN A "WASHINGTON POST" OP-ED SAID TRUMP MAY WANT TO RETHINK STIFFING GIULIANI ON THOSE BILLS. THATS BECAUSE IF GIULIANI HAS ANYTHING TO OFFER PROSECUTORS TO SAVE HIMSELF, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE TRUMP, THE ONLY BIG FISH LEFT. JOINING ME IS MICHAEL TRUMP, THE AUTHOR OF "DISLOYAL" AND SOMEONE WHO KNOWS VERY WELL WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE THROWN UNDER THE BUS BY THE DONALD. THE SON OF GIULIANI, ANDREW GIULIANI, HERE IS HIS ADVICE. >> DO YOU EXPECT YOUR FATHER MIGHT GET SOME HELP FROM TRUMPS LEGAL DEFENSE FUND? >> I DO THINK HE SHOULD BE INDEMNIFIED, ALL THOSE AMERICANS WHO DONATED AFTER NOVEMBER 3, THEY WERE DONATING FOR THE LEGAL DEFENSE FUND. MY FATHER RAN THE LEGAL TEAM AT THAT POINT. >> IM NOT SURE WHAT HE MEANS BY INDEMNIFY. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT? IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IF HE GETS STIFFED, MAYBE ANDREWS DAD MIGHT TELL. >> OKAY, SO LET ME BE VERY CLEAR. HES GOING TO GET STIFFED. ALL RIGHT? DONALD TRUMP, AS YOU PROPERLY ALLUDED TO, DOES NOT PAY LEGAL BILLS. NOR DOES HE LEARN FROM HIS PREVIOUS MISTAKES, WHICH IS THE SAME EXACT THING HE DID TO ME. HE DOESNT CARE ABOUT ANYONE OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN HIMSELF. NOW, AS WE ALSO KNOW, THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE DONATING TO THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT TRUMP PACs OR FUNDS AND THAT THEY HAD THEM CONSTANTLY ON THE REPLENISHMENT MONTH BY MONTH AND NOW THEY HAVE TO RETURN THAT. SO ITS NOT $250 MILLION ANYMORE. NOW, DONALD IN HIS CRAZY MIND ACTUALLY BELIEVED THAT THAT WAS NOW HIS MONEY AND THAT HE COULD DO WITH IT AS HE WISHED. SO THE CHANCES THAT HES GOING TO PART WITH A SINGLE DOLLAR, KNOWING THAT ITS GOING TO COST SEVERAL MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN ORDER TO PUT TOGETHER A PROPER TEAM, WHICH BY THE WAY, THE PEOPLE HE HAS RIGHT NOW ARE NOT CAPABLE OF DOING IT. IT TOOK 26 PEOPLE TO GO THROUGH MY 14 MILLION DOCUMENTS, LITERALLY, ROUND THE CLOCK, BECAUSE THE JUDGE DEMANDED THAT WE HAVE IT DONE WITHIN 45 DAYS. NOW, I DONT KNOW HOW FAST THEYRE REQUIRED TO DO IT. BUT IT TAKES A VERY SOPHISTICATED AND A VERY SIGNIFICANT COMPUTERIZED ORGANIZATION IN ORDER TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING THATS ON THESE DEVICES. AND IM SURE THAT THERES A MULTITUDE OF THINGS THEYRE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE SDNY UNDER THE GUYS OF ATTORNEY/CLIENT PRIVILEGE. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE THEN COME WITH MOTIONS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OPPOSITIONS AND SO ON. THE SADDEST THING FOR -- I SHOULD SAY THE GOOD THING IS THAT, SAD FOR RUDY, GOOD FOR THE REST OF US, ITS NOT GOING TO WORK, BECAUSE GUARANTEED, THE INFORMATION THAT THEY FIND IS GOING TO ALL BE ILLEGAL, SO ITS NOT PROTECTED INFORMATION. ITS UNDER THE CRIME FRAUD EXCEPTION RULE. AND IF ITS NOT THE CRIME FRAUD EXCEPTION RULE, IM SURE RUDY ADDED OTHER PEOPLE AND CCD ON THESE COMMUNICATIONS TO PEOPLE LIKE JARED, IVANKA, DON, OR SOMEBODY ELSE WHO ARENT LAWYERS, THERE BE BREAKING THE CHAIN OF ATTORNEY/CLIENT PRIVILEGE. I MEAN, HES JUST DOPEY. >> ARE YOU SURPRISED? RUDY GIULIANI USED TO BE A FEDERAL PROSECUTOR. HE USED TO BE MAYOR OF NEW YORK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CITIES IN THE WORLD. ARE YOU SURPRISED THAT HE TOOK THE TRUMP JOB, AFTER HAVING PUBLICLY, AT LEAST FROM WHAT WE HEARD, WANTING LIKE $20,000 A WEEK, NOT GETTING IT, AND BASICALLY DID ALL OF THAT THAT HE DID ON WHAT, ON CONTINGENCY, ARE YOU SURPRISED HE DIDNT TRY TO GET PAID UP FRONT? DIDNT HE KNOW -- >> JOY, I HATE TO CORRECT YOU, BUT IT WAS $20,000 A DAY. >> A DAY. >> AND HE ACTUALLY THOUGHT -- A DAY. HE THOUGHT DONALD TRUMP WAS GOING TO PAY HIM $140,000 A DAY. HE HAS A BETTER CHANCE OF SLING SHOOTING HIMSELF TO THE MOON. ITS IMPOSSIBLE. DONALD TRUMP WOULDNT PAY HIM TWO CENTS, BECAUSE HIS FEELING IS, IT IS AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO GO TO PRISON FOR HIM, TO DO HIS DIRTY WORK, AND AS LONG AS RUDY KEPT, YOU KNOW, PATTING THE BACKSIDE OF DONALD TRUMP AND KISSING THE RING, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE, BUT KISSING THE RING OF DONALD TRUMP, THEN HE WAS WELL WITHIN THE ORBIT. SO WHAT DID TONEY Y DOPEY RUDY D HE WENT AROUND THE WORLD, SELLING THE SERVICE OF AMERICA TO FOREIGN ORGANIZATIONS AND COUNTRIES. THATS HOW HE WAS GOING TO MAKE HIS MONEY. HE WAS USING DONALD AND DONALD WAS USING HIM. SO DONALD NEVER HAD -- HE NEVER HAD THE THOUGHT IN HIS MIND THAT HE WAS OVER GOING TO PAY RUDY. AND LISTENING TO ANDREW, WHO MAY BE DUMBER THAN ERIC TRUMP, TALK ABOUT THIS NONSENSE, ITS FUNNY TO ME. ITS FUNNY. THE LAST TIME I SAID ON ANOTHER SHOW, THE LAST TIME I SAW ANDREW, HE WAS GIVING A GOLF LESSON ON TRUMPS GOLF COURSE. THATS WHERE HE SHOULD BE RIGHT NOW, INSTEAD OF OUT THERE TALKING FOR HIS FATHER. HIS FATHER SHOULD SAY NOTHING. ANDREW SHOULD BE SAYING NOTHING. THEY SHOULD BE SITTING DOWN RIGHT NOW WITH PROSECUTORS. BECAUSE RUDY KNOWS EXACTLY HOW THE GAME IS GOING TO GO. HE CREATED THE RULES. HE CREATED THE RULES TO GO AFTER ORGANIZED CRIME. AND THEYRE GOING TO USE THE SAME PLAYBOOK THAT HE CREATED AGAINST HIM. AND IT WORKS, BECAUSE THEY SQUEEZE YOU, AND THEY KNOW THAT RUDY RIGHT NOW IS FINANCIALLY STRAPPED. SO WHEN YOURE FINANCIALLY STRAPPED, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS? YOU THINK DERSHOWITZ IS GOING TO WORK FOR FREE OR THIS GUY BOB COSTELLO, THE OTHER TWO LAWYERS THAT HE BROUGHT ON? BY THE WAY, NONE OF THEM ARE CAPABLE OF BECOMING A TEAM. THEY MAY KNOW HOW TO DO IT BUT NOT WHEN YOU HAVE MILLIONS OF DOCUMENTS. IT REALLY REQUIRES A VERY SOPHISTICATED COMPUTERIZED SYSTEM TO GO THROUGH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS. >> AND OF COURSE WE KNOW THAT ALAN DERSHOWITZ, JEFFREY EPSTEIN, SOME OF HIS PREVIOUS CLIENTS, DONALD TRUMP. LET ME PLAY RUDY GIULIANI SAYING HE HAD AN INSURANCE POLICY. THIS IS IN 2019. TAKE A LISTEN. >> IVE SEEN THINGS WRITTEN LIKE, HES GOING TO THROW ME UNDER THE BUS. I SAY, HE ISNT, BUT I HAVE INSURANCE. >> DOES HE HAVE AN INSURANCE POLICY? DOES THAT SOUND REALISTIC TO YOU? >> I MEAN, NO. SO I MADE AN UNDER THE BUS CLUB, I WELCOME RUDY TO THE UNDER THE BUS CLUB. WHAT HIS INSURANCE IS, I DONT KNOW, GEICO, STATE FARM, ALLSTATE, WHO THE HELL KNOWS WHAT HES TALKING ABOUT. THE PROBLEM WITH RUDY IS HE DRINKS LIKE A MANIAC AND THE WORST THING TO DO IS DRINK AND GO ON TELEVISION. HES STUPID, RIGHT, IN ORDER TO DRINK THE WAY THAT HE DOES, AND HES MORE STUPID TO COME ON SHOWS LIKE YOURS OR OTHERS TRYING TO PROVE A POINT THAT HE IS ABSOLUTELY GUILTY OF. AND ALL HES DOING IS JUST CREATING MORE HARM AND GIVING DONALD MORE OF A REASON WHY NOT TO PAY. ITS JUST THE WAY IT WORKS. WELCOME TO THE UNDER THE BUS CLUB, RUDY. >> MICHAEL COHEN, YOU NEVER DISAPPOINT, MY FRIEND, WHEN YOU
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Keywords: Rudy Giuliani, US News, Donald Trump, The Reidout, rudy giuliani, giuliani, giuliani investigation, michael cohen, cohen, donald trump, trump, msnbc, news, joy reid
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Length: 9min 48sec (588 seconds)
Published: Fri May 07 2021
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