Mauser "Schnellfeuer" Model 712

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You tend to twist your elbow to absorb the recoil.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 6 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/sm0kie420 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ May 20 2016 πŸ—«︎ replies

Wrong gun, Eva's gun was a knock off from the original Mauser.

The Mauser is a german, magazine fed pistol - well in this video it is. Eva's gun is the Chinese Type 17 (a variant of a Mauser but Chinese), clip fed weapon. You add bullets with a clip from the top.

I would be intrested if he actually shot the Mauser semi-automaticly and see if he could replicate it.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 14 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/WiseDevil πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ May 20 2016 πŸ—«︎ replies

Was Eva on full auto? Cool video btw

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 2 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/DyingWolf πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ May 20 2016 πŸ—«︎ replies

Her's wasn't fully automatic, though. I wish we would've been able to use a mauser in a metal gear game, it's become one of my fav guns

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 2 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Killzone3265 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ May 20 2016 πŸ—«︎ replies

Love that Mauser action. Like a miniature artillery piece.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 1 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Refrmech81 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ May 20 2016 πŸ—«︎ replies

He may be uncomfortable but a soldier with a lot of experience might not have a problem with the technique.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 1 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/[deleted] πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ May 20 2016 πŸ—«︎ replies
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Hi guys, thanks for tuning in to another video at ForgottenWeapons.com. I'm Ian, and today I'm out here at the range getting to play with a cool original machine pistol, a Mauser Schnellfeuer. Or a Model 712. A lot of people think that, "Well they made the Broomhandle Mauser in 1896, so I'm sure they made a full-auto version of it at the same time, right?" The answer is actually not really. It wasn't until the early 1930s that Mauser actually made a fully automatic version of the venerable and ubiquitous Broomhandle Mauser pistol. And in fact what spurred this was the Civil War that was kind of simmering in China through the 1920s and 1930s. Broomhandle Mausers were very popular pistols in China. There was some limitation on the ability of other countries to import long guns and military weapons into the country, but pistols weren't considered that. So a lot of Broomhandle Mausers were brought in with shoulder stocks and were used as de-facto carbines and were very popular. Well, by the early 1930s there were some Spanish companies, like Astra and Royal, that started to take advantage of this market. And one thing they decided they could trump the Germans by is by introducing a full-auto version. So Mauser recognised that, "Hey, some of these Spanish companies are starting to take a lot of our market with these full-auto copies of our pistol. We should probably offer one of those as well." So that's when they developed the Broomhandle. 1930 it was in development, it was patented in 1931. Interestingly, the first version of this full-auto modification was done by none other than Josef Nickl, who is known for a number of other pistol developments in Germany at the time. Now his version they only made about 4,000 of. And it's recognisable because it has kind of a typical lever type selector ... switch. It was very quickly replaced by a slightly different version made by a man named Karl Westinger, and that's what we have here. This has a kind of a recognisable semicircular selector lever on it. Those they made about 98,000 of, so all in all a little over 100,000 of these full-auto Mausers were manufactured. The vast majority of them went to China. But they were bought by some other countries, Brazil bought some, number of other places: Turkey, Persia, or Iran as we call it today. They got around, but by far the biggest customer was China. Now these fire at a fairly high rate of fire, 900 - 1,000 rounds per minute. ... The vast majority of them are in 7.63mm Mauser. And frankly I suspect in China a lot of them were used with Tokarev ammo, which would up the rate of fire beyond even that. I'm using this one primarily with the shoulder stock. If you shoot this just as a pistol it's, frankly, virtually uncontrollable. The bore axis on a Broomhandle Mauser is very high to begin with, and when you make that thing full-auto with a high rate of fire, it's pretty much worthless. It's fun, sort of, but it's worthless. When you put a shoulder stock on this, it's actually very controllable. I will show you. 20 round detachable magazines, by the way. ... They made 20s and they also made 10 round mags. So in semi-auto. Alright, so a couple of little short bursts. As I said, very high rate of fire. I forgot to mention something. You do not want to cross your thumb behind the gun. You stand a very good chance of getting whacked on the knuckle. If you're shooting one of these, you want to keep your thumb on the same side of the gun. With a shoulder stock that doesn't really impinge your grip all that much. So, we have a slow-motion clip of me firing this thing without the stock, and as you can see here it's kind of crazy and it jumps all over the place and it's not worth doing. However, there is an interesting anecdote that ... in China ... some of the folks who used these got this idea that if I'm shooting this with one hand and it does this, well, if I put it on its side that recoil is gonna pull it side to side, right? And that's going to make this nice arc of fire that will be very effective in cutting down everybody in the room. I'm not sure if that's true or if that's just a myth, but I figure give it a try and find out. This is an awkward gun to hold sideways. Do it one handed. It does definitely spray side to side. Frankly it sprays side to side a lot more than I'd be actually comfortable using, that's a little bit unnerving. The way to use this thing is definitely to keep it on the shoulder stock. With that, it's a nice effective little machine carbine. Entirely useless and impractical, but man, is that fun. That's wonderful, it's very controllable. - ... I love this thing. - It's great with a shoulder stock. - Yeah, if you were to shoot this with the shoulder stock, I think it'd be completely viable. But the second you go ahead and remove it and make it a pistol, I think it'd be terrible. Well, thanks for watching guys, and I hope you enjoyed the video. I really want to shout out a thanks to the crew at The Firearm Blog and TFBTV for hooking me up with a chance to do some shooting with this piece. And if you liked the video, make sure to subscribe to the channel, tell your friends, and check back regularly for more cool machine pistols on ForgottenWeapons.com. Alright, we call this the Oberndorf reload, or Broom-ception. [ sub by sk cn2 ]
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Channel: Forgotten Weapons
Views: 1,569,329
Rating: 4.9041438 out of 5
Keywords: 712, astra, mauser, spain, china, civil war, royal, azul, super azul, schnelfeuer, schnellfeuer, machine pistol, 7.63mm, 9mm, 7.63 Mauser, should stock, warlord, c96, broomhandle
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Length: 7min 52sec (472 seconds)
Published: Thu May 19 2016
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