Matt Pinfield 1st show as host with Depeche Mode MTV 120 Minutes (1993.03.07) Dave Gahan Martin Gore

into the future [Music] 120 Minutes hello there Matt pinfield with you for 120 Minutes on MTV tonight we've got a very special edition of 120 lined up for you not only is it my first time hosting the show but it's my great pleasure to have as my co-host Dave gone and Martin Gore from Depeche Mode we also got a lot of great videos tonight from King Missile Ultra Vivid scene Soul Asylum and Sloan plus brand new ones from the Goo Goo Dolls Betty severed best kissers in the world and the shaman one hour from now World premiere a brand new video from The Sundays and right here at World premiere from Sonic youth's dirty album here's the planet's first look at sugarcane [Applause] from happy hour that's New York City's King Missile with detachable penis here on MTV's 120 minutes and an interesting story about that video when Jonas told the lead singer was filming that in New York City outside he was swinging around a giant detachable penis and was almost arrested for it for indecent exposure of a phony pants as well what do you think so absolutely okay I just want to let you know that I'm Matt Penfield I'd like to introduce you to tonight's very special guest David Martin from Depeche Mode it's good to have you here excellent thanks for coming by now um it's been three years since the massive yes it's a massive success of violator and um what's different about this record was a real challenge to make it to wait three years and put on another record did it take a long time to get the feel to do another one I'll have to answer this on yeah um I think that we don't we don't really think that much about sort of going from album to album um we you know the Violet was incredibly successful and yeah you know in the back of your mind you do you know you want to sustain your success you know we've pretty much we've climbed and climbed and we've got more and more successful what we do in an audience has got bigger and bigger and um and the fans have pretty much been there all the time with us you know which is a lot to do with that you know um so when we I think what we do is we want we want the songs to be great and you know we go into the studio with the attitude of you know this has got to be better than the last album and um in terms of what we want to do and put out you know we want it to be different we try and push ourselves as much as possible to try some different ideas and try different things out with this album and we introduce some different people in we have some gospel singers come in and we had a string section um we had a hill and bike player which is like this bagpipe thing right um and we've never really worked with any other musicians like that so that was pretty interesting and uh for us you know to be in there for instance when Mark was singing One caress with the 28 piece string section you know to watch that and it's live and being done right then it was really really exciting you know I had sort of all chills down about my back yeah you know I started thinking about live and Performing the songs and then you you know um you know all those sorts of things coming to mind when you start recording you know again but I think we just go into with the attitude that we want to make the best record possible you know that's great you definitely have and we'll be back with Dave and Martin in just a little bit but you're watching 120 minutes and we're going to get right now to the Google dials new video they're from Buffalo New York from the album Superstar Car Wash this is we are the normal welcome back to 120 minutes I'm Matt pinfield and with me tonight David Martin from Depeche Mode we just saw a little bit of Just Can't Get Enough from your 81 debut album speaking spell in the Vince Clark days here we are eight albums later 12 years later we might as well go home right now I mean he destroyed our career with the old songs are you not fond of the old songs you care no it's actually you know it's just you know when you see something like that I mean it was literally how many years ago yeah so 12 years old years ago and you know we look about 10 years old and it sounds like we've made the record when it was about 10 years old as well but um I don't know it's like a Vince song and um Vince's style of writes and everything is completely different to Martin's and everybody you know that song has kind of been like this thing that's hung around our neck for years and years and years and still we're trying to shake they just can't get enough thing off a bit just because we've moved on so much you know it's not that we're not proud of what we've done in our past course we are you know but um you know you've got to move on and we I know people have to sort of heart back to the history to but um let's just pick a different video now Martin as far as your songwriting goes over the years has it changed from back when you started with a broken frame has the whole approach the way you write your songs changed it all um I mean the instruments you use now still basically working the same way I usually start with an acoustic guitar work out the uh chord structure vocal Melody lyrics and then I usually sort of move on to you know computers and Samplers and stuff and then try and work out a demo that I can present to the rest of the band right that's creating that sort of hope that there's been some you know Evolution though I hope so I think that definitely ads you know I mean you know as I said before we you know I think Mark's demos are quite stripped back now to us around the time of construction time we're going and some great with all those hours Martin was really kind of right up to music for the masses even was really finishing um damn I was in that the arrangements and structures and it was pretty strict about that's how I wanted it to be so we would go in a studio and you know make that song better you know to record it in a more professional way if you like um but I think over the last couple of years especially the last couple of albums um Alan and myself and Vlad and have been able to have our influence have a lot more info it's in things like sound and structure and Arrangement and all that kind of stuff and you know attitude and what kind of instrumentation is going to be used for that part and you know so it's more fun now basically and everybody I think that you you can feel good about you have more involvement in the making of the thing it's not just like Mark hands it to us and we you know copy it yeah he's got more democratic over the years Mark's probably yeah I mean Mark was saying it's the same as what you're probably still the same when everybody writes a song right speaking of going back to older albums so here's a video that goes way back to 84 and Depeche Mode's fourth album some great reward this is master and server it's a look from their seventh album grave dancers Union that Soul Asylum with black gold that video features in case you didn't notice a cameo from George Went also known as Norm from cheers it's MTV's 120 Minutes my name is Matt pinfield and stay tuned because we've got a world premiere video from The Sundays coming up plus a brand new one from Betty severe and right after the break more with tonight's special co-host Depeche Mode first a look at the top 10 albums on alternative radio this week [Music] [Applause] [Music] welcome back I'm Matt Penfield stick around for a world premiere video from The Sundays plus the latest from Sloan tonight we're spending 120 Minutes with David Martin from Depeche Mode making this record your vocal sound is a little different and especially in the single if I feel you it's really in your face it's got a lot of edge it's great uh what's different about the way you did the vocals on this one Dave um well I think first of all I tried a lot harder right so you know I was very conscious I wanted to I think my voice has changed quite a bit over the last few years um I I like to sing live in the studio as well I like to sort of just have a mic and monitors and stuff like I would live longer on tour and I felt a lot more comfortable doing that and also um I just you know I think a lot of times as well we've done a lot of stuff where I did we discovered that I could sing in a a higher octave um so we've done a lot of kind of stuff like that where I'm seeing this song in the same key but we'd be up an octave so that that was mixed in there as well so it gave it a much more of an edge and stuff but you know I just I think my voice has just matured a lot and I've gained a lot more confidence a lot that's due to sort of live work and stuff like that plus I rested my voice for a long while right well that helps a lot yeah I'm sure Martin as far as when you wrote it I mean just like the demo version of Personal Jesus which is Straight Out acoustic which had an edgy feel kind of like a I mean Blues meets whatever but it was cool same feeling when you're at I feel you um pretty much it was you know very riff-based yeah demos it's basically um a shuffle beat the Riff and that sort of crossbeat uh it's like a vocal sound and that was basically the demo with the vocals over the top right and it did sort of sound slightly personal jesus-like and we were aware of that and you know sort of it was actually totally happy to steer it away from that direction because it's very bluesy in the same sort of way you know and it had that kind of be you know shuffle beat on the floor that all those guys would be doing when they're you know yeah and that's what we was trying to do as well you know and but mixing it in with the classic sort of Depeche um you know treatments yeah um but at the same time I mean myself and everyone else is where we wanted it to have a much more of a live feel and we wanted the thing to sound a lot more ballsy and and straighten your face and stuff like that as you said before um so uh there was a lot more performance really going down on on that track as well in terms of playing a mark playing guitar and stuff like that and they sing it you can feel it too I mean you can hear it it's layered it sounds great it just it comes out at you it's in your face we'll be checking out the new Depeche Mode video for I feel you in just a few moments but first here's a new one from a Dutch band called Betty severt this is off their debut album palamine and it's called tomboy from their debut album smeared that's a band from Halifax Nova Scotia called Sloan with their video underwhelmed here on 120 minutes I'm Matt Penfield to be sure to stick around for a world premiere video from The Sundays it's their cover of the Rolling Stones classic wild horses and if you haven't heard this one yet it sort of does with a Cowboy Junkies did for Lou Reed's sweet chain that's coming up and of course more with tonight's special co-host Depeche Mode stick around because we are just five minutes away from a world premiere video from The Sundays here in 120 minutes I'm at pinfield and tonight David Martin from Depeche Mode are here your new album is due on March 23rd it's called songs of faith and devotion and the single of course is I feel you was that a conscious thing to write a rocking song There Martin with a rock feel I mean you did you covered Route 66 years ago and then Personal Jesus Took people by surprise the first time out was it something you said hey I'm going to do this it's going to be a different feel not really it's just uh it just came out that way everything is just very natural you know I never I don't know what my intentions are when I sit down and write a song and just try and capture some emotion and and try and communicate with people and that's about it really right what kind of things have you been listening to have they had any influence on what you're doing right now I think you know there is a certain gospel influence even if it's you know got our trademark on it I think it's uh yeah I think it is there still I think the whole album has a real that spiritual if you like kind of feel to it and um it really lifts I mean it really lifts me I hope it does the same for everybody else right um and I think that there's a it's because there's a lot of those influences in there um and the same from me you know I listen to a lot of that kind of stuff now as well a lot of blue stuff that's great now the video was done out in California in a mission you decided to do that was that uh something you guys said we do downtime we actually actually we've done photos in the mission but we we shot the video um at the desert uh where Anton likes to be quite a lot of the time and it was actually really freezing it was um it was hoping for Sunshine and it was mostly rain uh but we were lucky we you know because it was raining there was a lot of cloud and stuff like that and I think it adds to the scenes you know it looks it almost looks like that we've built some scenes and none of it's really real you're not quite sure whether it's like you know what's going on there you know but it was all done out in the desert yeah that's great well why don't we check it out right now here is the new video from Depeche Mode for I feel you into the future [Music] 120 Minutes hello I'm Matt Penfield with you again for the second 60 of MTV's 120 minutes I just want to let you know that next week the show will start a half an hour later 12 30 11 30 Central and but don't get really worried about it because the following we could go back to its usual schedule coming up more conversation with David Martin of Depeche Mode also alternative music videos from sugar the candy skins Ned's Atomic Dustbin therapy and belly plus brand new ones from the best kissers in the world the shaman and right here to kick off the hour is the world premiere video from The Sundays from the album blind Heroes promised is the planet's first looked at their cover of the Rolling Stones classic wild horses [Music] [Applause] from the debut album Copper Blue that's actually due front man Bob mold's new band sugar with if I can't change your mind you're watching MTV's 120 Minutes my name is Matt pinfield and joining me tonight it's David Martin from Depeche Mode let's talk about speaking of spiritual and the title of the album songs of faith and devotion there's songs on the album like Mercy Judas condemnation Higher Love very spiritual themes there is that what direction you're going in with yourself as far as you're riding um I think I've got a problem and I should go and see a psychoanalyst I think you're right I mean it's not just this album I've only ever dealt with about three topics in all of my songs ever love sex and religion and they're usually all you know that's pretty much it though just alive no a lot of the time I think they're the same thing so that's what uh I tend to write about as my you know inspiration I mean a lot of people often ask me as well you know if it's difficult for me to sing Mark's lyrics and stuff like that as well and no it's not you know I say no because the subjects that he sings about are you know life really and experiences in life and whatever all sorts of people going through all the time so um is is it's easy for me to do that right I mean I mean you've expressed it so many different ways from I want you now on music for the masses I mean even somebody which is some people's favorite song of all time they just love they feel it you know portrays so many passions and human emotions in that track it's a great song all those songs are really great and the new record's great too and we'll be talking more with David yeah okay are we talking more with David Martin later we'll be talking about on tour with this as well more of the good ones on this show though okay yeah okay you've already played well you played shape with these I like that I like I feel you it's about it nothing crucified us oh well you know hey show people how far you've come it's a great film all right okay all right we'll be back with you checking out a cult classic with Depeche as well right here is a video from Oxford's England's candy skins and their new album is called fun this is Wembley it's MTV's 120 minutes I'm Matt pinfield and David Martin from Depeche motor here and we're very confused but we're having fun yeah it's just the videos you're checking out you haven't seen them in a long time right that's helping you out a little bit strange stuff that was the American version of the single and today we were sort of forced to do another video at the time and um weren't as happy with it as the original that we done with Anton right um so but there you go and there it is okay well of course you guys are here but with Fletch and uh Andy of course how I mean I'm sorry is Andy Butch and Allen how are those guys doing I mean when it comes to the individual things you guys do in the band Depeche Mode you'll just have it what is everybody's role in the band Martin so basically you know I I had to take on the the songwriting mantle and when Vince left the band because somebody had to do it was that really what it was like how was it was it was it a scary thing was it frightening when I first happened I mean when you left did you say well here's what I'm going to do were you writing already well I was already writing I started writing songs when I was about 13 so it was like you know more of a natural thing really you know so just you know as I said somebody had to do it and I'd already been doing it for five or six years anyway so I just carried on and we didn't worry about it too much we were too young and naive to even worry you know when we were young you really yeah you don't play playing out things so much and you know you we just went into the studio and and Martin was forced to write 10 songs or whatever and we went in and recorded them and really you know when you listen to a broken friend we all think it's our weirdest album because it's just it's quite patchy and all over the place so it's really like kind of light white pop and then there's this kind of experimental Monument it's like usually it's the man this fans that are into that album yeah like Secret Garden also to photograph of you I mean leaving silence was a single that was on there which was the first one yeah going back to your original question you know I took on that role and Alan is a musician you know he's like a classically trained pianist and he's a lot more musically talented than the rest of us basically because he's you know he'll work a lot harder yeah we're not lazier so we let him we tend to let him do a lot of that side of things you know Dave naturally a singer we took Dave wrong because we liked his voice he's the singer and Andy's not musical at all so he sort of tends to you know involve himself in that more business side of things right let's see but it all works out again yeah I mean it's like the roles are pretty defined now you know and but at the same time it works really well together you know as you say it's a flood describes like these four corners of a square that comes together and you know we make something really special when we come together and it works you know right um so there's I think there's less aggravation now with people fighting for space and stuff like that because over the years everyone has found their space and I was happy to sit at the desk for 12 hours a day you know right and it's working out great now I mean he's over there now okay more with David Martin a little later on but right now here's a brand new video from Seattle's best kissers in the world their new album is called puddin actually it's an EP This song is called picking flowers for from their first full-length album nurse that's an Irish Trio called therapy with nausea here on MTV's 120 minutes I'm Matt pinfield and still to come tonight the latest from belly a brand new video from the shaman and a cult classic from tonight's special co-hosts Depeche Mode welcome back to 120 minutes I'm Matt pinfield and my special co-host tonight are Dave gone and Martin Gore from Depeche Mode now when it comes time to decide who's going to sing the songs you've sung a few on the records there Martin uh is it a thing that the whole band decides on or when you're riding the tracks themselves you say this is something I'd like to take to leave vocal on how does that work out well I'd like to say that uh you know I felt closer to some of the songs and felt need to sing them but it isn't true the art is a lot more boring than that it's just you know some songs suit my voice and a lot of the songs through Dave's voice yeah it's really as simple as that it's quite black and white now as well we don't you know pretty much when we go in like with this album you know there was certain things I mean sometimes I might want to sing a song that you know Mark's going to end up singing and we'll try it out and my voice is a bit too aggressive on it or something and I can't and then Mark I'll go and he's got his beautiful voice and he now goes and it's it's really quite like obviously to us you know um so it's not saying we fight or anything like that it's I think it's good as well and it adds different feels to for to the teaching record right now um singing with the choir how was that was that a really intense feeling doing that whole thing with that one having a section yeah the string section yeah as well yeah it was it was something that was so different for us that you know it just it just was very interesting you know we usually we spend at least three weeks recalling every song and probably another week mixing it and that was done in you know a few takes yeah it was exciting and it was very you know very spontaneous yeah about as spontaneous as it gets and I mean I I was saying to someone earlier that was like 10 minutes of you know when Mark actually went in and sang a couple of times you know and it was the first time he'd done it when he was when it could feel the tension in the studio and the whole 28 piece string sections they're waiting to go it's all worked out you know it's all that and Mark just went in and went in the booth and sang with him and I think he sang fantastically because he was battling against his string section as well that were really loud you know right and they were totally into it as well you know and afterwards it got arranged Wilma line come in and he was like wow that was great you know it was it was you know it all the hairs on the back of the neck was standing up and it felt really exciting complete chills right that's great well here's a song that Martin sang lead on from Depeche Mode's 86 album one of my favorites Black Celebration it's called a question of lust [Music] thanks for staying up with 120 Minutes tonight believe me we really do appreciate it I'm Matt Penfield tonight my special guest co-host have been Dave and Martin from Depeche Mode it was fun wasn't it yeah I think we had a good song I really enjoyed it I want to ask you real quick before we do have you do head out and I'd like to know when you plan on going on tour and have you thought about opening acts or any of that stuff yet we've got a list like this long have ideas for having me next so it's really difficult actually because you know we we like to take somebody out with us that we all like and that we're all into and it's and that lists about this box because it all comes with different you know everybody likes different kinds of stuff but um we're getting there we're getting close to it yeah we're starting we start the touring my um in Europe and we um in France we're there over in Europe for quite a while and we come over here in September start in September right until Christmas pretty much um and then after that we're off to the new year I think we're going to go to South America and Australia for our East and we'll probably come back to of America the following summer so it's right we've got a long long way to go yeah excellent but I'm pretty personally I'm really excited about it yeah everybody's really excited you're coming back over there's like they want to see the band live again yeah you know so it'll be great and see the new songs live and some of the old favorites let me be different as well because we've approached this whole album in a different sort of way as well with regards to Performance and you know I was going to be playing some drums and you know um we're hoping to have a couple of singers with us as well um to help out some vocals um and I think there'll be all this sort of classic Depeche stuff in there in in the show but I think there'll be a few surprises and some things that you haven't seen depression might do before and so for for us as well that's really exciting too and a challenge you know great well thanks a lot for coming I really appreciate it great to have you cheers we'll see you later we'll see you again when you come into it we're really looking forward to that and here's a brand new video for the title track to the Shaman's latest album this is boss drum that's the shaman with boss trauma that's the final video in 120 Minutes tonight thanks very much to David Martin from Depeche Mode for stopping by and be sure to tune in next Sunday when John and John from They Might Be Giants will be here to host and play acoustic and don't forget the time has changed next week it's 12 30 11 30 Central but just for one week so don't get upset about it and if you feel like it writing and let us know what you thought of tonight's show the address is 1515 Broadway 24th floor New York New York 10036 thanks for watching and for 120 minutes I'm Matt pinfield stay tuned now as a 90s music Revolution continues right here on MTV

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