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so welcome everyone for those of you new to master class we're an online platform that enables anyone to learn from the best currently we have a catalog of more than 80 classes with industry leaders like Martin Scorsese teaching directing Serena Williams teaching tennis Gordon Ramsay teaching cooking and today we're so excited to talk to the incredible Bobbie Brown what you're watching right now is master class live which is a weekly way for our master class members to connect with our instructors get their questions answered and dive deeper into the learning beyond our app streaming lessons and downloadable workbooks in the light of the current climate master class is providing this member only benefit free for anyone to access for the foreseeable future my name is Kayla and I am a creative producer at masterclass and I've had the pleasure of producing Bobby's class alongside her and an incredible team joining us today and I'm sure she needs no introduction is Bobby Brown a world-renowned makeup artist best-selling author and serial entrepreneur Bobby thank you so much for being with us today oh it's so nice thank you so much for talking to me of course and you know before we just jump in I wanted to say that you know I'm not someone who wears makeup and so in working on your class I had to put myself in the shoes of the students who would be watching and I got to learn from you and I think that I got to see how much about makeup is about choice you know you get to decide how much is just right for you and there's so many different styles out there but your style is really simple right well my style is is so much about me because I really do believe that people are beautiful without makeup and makeup is a way to help you feel more beautiful help you feel confident I am NOT someone that likes to cover up and change people's faces I like to embrace and use makeup as a way just to make people look healthier and and ultimately that makes you feel better right and that's so important right now I mean the reality is that so many people are working from at the moment and that means that people are either alone or with their families and so I was wondering and I think this is a great place for us to really start is why should people be wear eye makeup right now what can I do for us well if you think about it some people wear makeup because other you know for other people I've always worn makeup for myself for some reason it instantly makes me feel better and clearly I don't wear a lot I mean I'm doing this live I don't know how many thousands of people are watching and I really didn't put a lot on but I put just enough on that I felt awake I felt healthier and for me it's so much about moisture how much moisture I put on my face and a little bit of blush that it makes a big difference how I feel it's I look in the mirror once and then I'm done but I carry those feelings with me all day yeah but I think that's spot on and I think it's so easy to look in the mirror and I know in my case but things I maybe don't like about myself for making me feel insecure some of the first things I see and I think using makeup as a tool to kind of decide for myself what's gonna make me feel better it's really powerful and empowering well us women are lucky because we could do things like color our hair we could which I'll get into in a second that's probably the worst part about you know staying home is missing my hairdresser but you know we could put concealer on under our eyes we could put blush on you could throw lipstick on and yes if you're someone that likes to contour believes that you look better you can you can do whatever you want with it it's makeup and it just instantly lifts your mood and makes you feel better whether you're doing a zoom call at home whether you are just by yourself in your apartment it's amazing what a little bit does even putting on little teeny earrings makes a difference right and you know I'm so glad that you referenced our zoom call and we sent down an alert that we would be hosting this live session with you to give people a chance to submit their own questions and we received so many questions and one master calls member enrolled in your class named Kathy had a really great one and she said that you know so many of our meetings events and even times with friends are being moved online right and so she wanted to ask you you know what could we be doing to look our best on camera well I've been doing a lot of zoom calls I'm on you know some meetings with some very young beautiful people that just seemed to have wake up in the morning in the hair just kind of falls in place and others have hair in a bun in a ponytail and craziness and it's actually you know I think a very calming time because it's everyone could be real so maybe you see people dressed up but now everyone is at home sometimes there's babies screaming there's wild hair but you know what do what makes you comfortable I am wearing my Lululemon tights and I'm wearing a navy sweater I always wear Navy sweater people think I wear black but I wear Navy and as far as makeup I have moisturizer on I have a little concealer under my eyes I have some bronzer on my face and lip and I usually do my eyebrows and a little bit of mascara and that's it you know so that's it but when you guys shot me I had Hannah and Susanna doing my makeup for camera it was way more makeup but for zoom you don't need as much and how long did your routine take you today oh two seconds so I'm gonna just show you a couple things now probably the most important thing I have is this brown shadow that I'm not you know talking about brands right now but if you are a woman with dark hair of a certain age this is the most amazing thing because guess what you could just go and when you open up the zoom you see it and you could just go fill in your gray your part it comes in all different colors so and you can also use it as eyeshadow by the way and then when I'm doing my makeup and it just doesn't look right I mean we've been in the house sometimes I just take a little bit of a moisturizer and the trick is you put it on your hands and even after your makeups done you just kind of tap it on your cheek and I tap it all over and it just kind of brings moisture to the skin and don't forget your neck and honestly all I really use right now is either that brown shadow or a plain brown shadow some kind of a bronze and I'm using right now kind of a pinky bronzer I know and the trick with the bronzer guys is when you put it on blow and when you put it on start with your neck do a little bit smile little on your forehead and when you're doing your own blush the trick is look in the mirror and just lend it in because you want it to look like it's part of your skin and that's really important and honestly that's all I do I put a little bit of gloss on my lips and sometimes when I'm really feeling tired I'll take something that has some luminosity in it which is just a little bit of Sheen I don't even know if it you feel different I don't know if you look different but you'd feel different and that is it honestly but I'm also lucky I wear glasses so it kind of hides a little bit yeah and you know what I think this is a great opportunity to really set the record straight about something I mean there's a lot of myths about nude makeup that is out that it's beige and I don't think that's the case it's not nude makeup is actually the color of your skin but for some reason nude makeup became beige it became washed out it became one beige for everybody and we are all different skin colors I mean we you know I don't care if you're you know black I don't care if you're a Latino I don't care if you're white we are all a range of colors and we've got to find colors that are right for our skin and for me the trick to two everyday makeup is finding colors that are the color of your skin it's not that complicated once you find the right things and I mean I think a lot of people might wonder how do you find those right colors not the easiest thing I mean for me it's easy but you have to make sure first of all you start with your foundation if you wear foundation and I'd really love people during this time of being home to try not to wear foundation or even use foundation just to spot correct to you know if there's any kind of little darkness you can cover it but the only way to wear foundation I cover this like crazy in the class is on the side of the face of and most foundation on the market unfortunately has some pinkie in it so it doesn't look natural so you'll see it on the side of the face and that's why sometimes people have to mix their own with a few different colors but once you put it on it should just blend in and I don't think people need foundation all over presenta just looks like you're wearing a mask and that's just not my my opinion it's not the most beautiful aesthetic I love people's skin I love healthy skin right and I think you know once you find the colors that work for you you don't need a whole bunch of products because there are so many out there on the market yes I think you've shown in your in your class you kind of allude to a number of different tricks like you mentioned already using eyeshadow in your hair when you need to touch up can you share a few more maybe tips and tricks like that sure you know there's so many lipstick by the way you could you buy a lipstick it might not be the right color for you you're you know maybe you ordered a same color a friend had but you could take it and you can share it down you could stain it on your lips you could rub your fingers together and put it on your cheeks for shoots we put it on people's eyes I don't recommend that to people because it sometimes could get in your eyes so its might not feel good but you can use things for different ways bronzers I don't see why you can't put on your eyes you know it's sometimes the color is too orange so depending what color you have you could try it that way and in a pinch guys you could take even the bronzer mix it with a little bit of gloss and stain it on your lips so you know there's many things you could use different ways right and I think you know in your class you have a really great lesson called the one minute makeup and I think you know that routine is helping people to get up on with a busy schedule and go to work and for many right now that kind of sense of routine looks very different and so I was wondering you know what is your one-minute makeup look like when you're working from home well my most people's one-minute makeup is my 30 second makeup so usually moisture there goes on first you throw in some concealer under your eyes your foundation around your nose blush bronzer on your cheek mascara brush your brows up and you could use eyeshadow for eyebrows you could use like a little teeny brush on brow and kind of you're done you know it's not it's not the smokey eye it's not the jeweled eye it's not the you know it's not even I shadow really I mean people don't realize that people mascara on and fill in your brows sometimes you don't need you don't need eyeshadow you can add a liner sometimes you know when we're live and working from home it's going to happen he's got clothes heard there's some you know people are walking around in shorts boxer shorts well that's all good and very real just like you said and yeah you know I think a moment of the class that I really loved is actually in your introduction and you told a really personal story about falling in love with makeup by watching your mom and I was thinking a lot about how you know I've already said I don't learn any makeup and I think a lot of men myself included maybe have grown up and only seen the women in our lives wearing makeup and so I wanted to ask you from your opinion um what can makeup do for men and can you maybe share some grooming tips for us as well well actually some men do our makeup there are a lot of men that are makeup artists that always have makeup on they think they've they got into makeup because they felt better once they put it on I personally don't like makeup on men's skin I don't think they need it but you know makeup is one thing skincare and grooming is another thing so guys have to grow and you know you've got a trim your beard you've got to maybe put some moisturizer and your beard they now have all things on the market you know to take care of your beard though you could probably just use what you use on your skin and men need a little bit of eye cream men need moisturizer and you know grooming and that's and that's in my opinion that's it I've been lucky enough to do men's makeup and grooming for some celebrities in my career as a makeup artist I mean I even got to do Keith Richards with the black smoky eye so I've been really lucky I've got I've got to work with men's makeup that are being photographed but in real life guys don't need it yeah I think yeah I really agree I mean it again it goes back to choice and what makes each person feel comfortable you know rock and roll by the way yeah men wear makeup there's no question they do smoke you know they'll do a pencil in their eye they'll do it it's fine I couldn't imagine going into a meeting and having a man greet me in a suit with makeup on I don't think it would work or it would set me back and maybe it'll change maybe I'm old-fashioned that way but I don't think it's necessary you know I think that your class speaks to both everyday people who are wanting to use makeup mm-hmm excuse me to feel better about themselves and also professional and aspiring makeup artists and a lot of artists right now but basically right now because so many people are stuck at home they might not be able to physically go out and work and so I wanted to get to you about what can these artists do who are looking for ways to work virtually well that is a really good question I am someone that supports my fellow artists and you know I'm not even talking about getting paid at the moment but there are ways that artists could continue working whether it's working on your Instagram putting your photos up there working on your website so when things do get back to normal you'll be able to have something that you're really proud of certainly make connections on your social media and I actually spoke to a woman earlier there who works at a department store and his feeling you know such a loss that she's missing her customers I said why don't you go and do a class online for your customers and they could feel part they could follow along at home I mean this is the time for all entrepreneurs out there to figure out how to reach people how to offer something that people are not offering i-i know physical therapists that are bringing their business online i know chefs that are having you know cooking lessons so i think that for an entrepreneurial makeup artist you could probably figure out how to offer at a very very affordable reasonable price one-on-one lessons that you could do or group lessons so you just got to keep doing things and you know we don't know if this is going to be two weeks two months three months we have no idea but the more you keep occupied and busy and work on your your craft and you work on your positivity and your mood it really is is gonna pay off in the long run and and i think that's a really great point and what are some things that you're doing to really you know keep practicing your craft during this period well it's really funny i don't know what i'm so busy with but i get phone calls every day about doing things online i you know i to an hour ago i did an online talk for someone i you know i have magazines from harper's bazaar - el india that have reached out i've done a you know with havens kitchen which is a cooking school in new york we did an instagram live where I opened up my kitchen and they taught me how to cook my leftovers so there's so many things out there and I'm watching a lot of things you know you're on your Instagram and all of a sudden this one's going live that one's going live and you know there's a lot to learn right now and one of the things I am so grateful to be able to have produced a masterclass because a lot of people now that hadn't heard about it are telling their they're texting me or emailing me or DME me I'm saying I finally had the time to see the master class and I learned so much so I think you know this is an amazing time for everyone out there to you know deep dive in those amazing master lessons well I that's really special for me to hear so thank you for that and I think your class is really something to be proud of it it shows people that there are options there are so many different ways to achieve so many different looks and you really do break it down step by step I'm basically a simple person and I like to teach simple things to people and for for those artists out there or women out there that have a different aesthetic and like a different look my my my advice would be learn the basics and you know what relearn the basics I never stop learning there's always new ways for me to figure out how to do things there's new ways that I learned from other makeup artists out there there's other there's so many products on the market that are new and different that are really interesting and so it's really the time to go back learn the basics and then once you like learn those basics you can go apply anything you want and an experiment you know with with any of your looks I showed some experimenting on our master class how to do you know how to just let yourself go I took it a little too far but I we did it yeah and I think you know um to follow up on this idea of experimentation for artists out there who are trying to build a portfolio what do you think makes a great portfolio for a working makeup artist today and how can they use this time of experimentation to make it even better well I for me a good portfolio is someone that shows diversity someone that could take someone and make them look like they wear absolutely no makeup take someone in different situations studio daylight all you know all the different ways that you could show people different light and and show a range show an editorial side so you know what you did on a regular person what you did on a model and a portfolio should be if you are someone that hasn't done magazine work just I don't care if you do an Instagram I don't care if you create an Instagram of all your different looks but show diversity and show scale you know different skin colors different you know changing people's faces before and after there's nothing I like better than a split screen with no makeup and with the finish makeup that really shows Talent yeah and for kind of everyday people that might have a preference like I think I believe you do to actually go into makeup counters and talk to people and try different makeups if you're ordering makeup online do you have any tips for what to look for and find high quality makeup well it's interesting because I'm sure many people including myself has seen things on websites or Instagram and order it and then it arrives and it doesn't look so good so first of all you could send it back number one but number two you know it's unfortunately it's hit or miss but there's so many great things offered at reasonable prices now there's really with the new indie brands there's so many different price points you know there's the high-end price points that hopefully you'll get to go back into a department store and touch things or a Sephora or an Ulta where you can actually touch things or reorder what you like but basically you have to kind of you know know what color range you're in so it's not always that easy it's easier to order skincare but there's nothing like being able to touch it absolutely and I want to take a moment for those of you just joining us this is masterclass live a new series of events on the master glass platform where members can interact with master class instructors and outside experts to take the learning beyond our video streaming classes workbooks and the app in light of current events these sessions are going to me be made available for everyone members and non-members to access today we're here with Bobbi Brown who is teaching who her class is teaching makeup and beauty so Bobbi I want to take a moment to say you know you joined the master class family in November what's been going on since then outside of current circumstances but what have you been working on well my experience is doing the master class was absolutely unbelievable when I got the call from you guys and asked me to do it I couldn't believe it working with your teams I've never worked with a production team like masterclass I will I will say and the amount of talent and people that came and honestly we spent five days together and you know we're we're like old friends I mean it's you deep dive you every single you know professor every single teacher that does masterclass you have to trust because you just throw yourself there and you just have to trust the people that are creating this masterpiece basically so since I did the master class my my social has skyrocketed you know comments from people asking for more you know more lessons and has been great and so it's for me it's been really exciting because yes I am an entrepreneur yes I have different businesses but basically I'm a makeup artist what I love to do is be in a studio with my team my Posse and create things so it's really given me this you know excitement to be able to continue my craft so I am very grateful to master class I'm also you know working on evolution 18 which is a wellness brand and for me beauty health wellness is something that really works together because I've always decided for the past you know 25 years the better you take care of yourself on the inside the better you'll look on the outside and you won't need as much makeup and you will just look better so for me it goes hand-in-hand right and can you tell us a little bit more about what is evolution 18 and what does it offer for people evolution 18 is a wellness brand as I said it they are supplements and they're everything from collagen to hyaluronic acid we even we even have a CBD gummy which has been very helpful it's called chill one of my favourite products we have another one called de bloat which actually says on the package helps you fit into a little black dress so a lot of these things I kind of made for myself but I know that you know like like my women that I work with with my customers myself my friends my sister we all share the same kind of issues and and guys too I mean guys get bloated too if they had too much fun the night before so I just I put these really great ingredients together that really are supplements to a healthy diet because I am now I am a health coach I went back to school to the Institute of Integrative Nutrition after I left the you know the brand that I found it three and a half years ago and I got my degree as a health coach and I've kind of gone full circle from being in the beauty business to being in the wellness business and I'm feel like I'm back being a makeup artist so I'm pretty happy I really love that and I think it's very true that makeup and health and wellness all go hand in hand and I know when we were on set together we talked quite a bit about health and wellness and it's it's sprinkled throughout your class but I know you talk a lot about how important staying hydrated is exercise going outside things that seem to be really hard for us to do right now for taking care of ourselves if you have any thoughts on how we can be keeping ourselves healthy and this time yes you know it's funny one thing people always complain about is time I don't have time to exercise I don't have time to see my friends I don't have time I don't have time well this is the one time we actually have time so if you have not been drinking enough water start now I struggle with it I push myself you know I just pulled out from my cabinet this bottle it's called hydrate and it like you know every time you drink it and finish it it'll tell me on my on my device I put I have lemon in there right now I have a little bit of stevia so it tastes like a lemonade sometimes I put oranges in drinking water is the key moving your body I don't care if you walk slow I don't care what you do I don't care if you hold a plank I don't care if you you know whatever you do there's no excuses now and you know what turn on your TV turn on open up your computer go to you go to YouTube there are such wonderful yoga classes fitness classes and just you know what just like Nike says just do it it's gonna make you feel better and you know what guess what then you've got other things to do you've got your housework to do you've got you know so many things so if you don't keep yourself healthy and feeling good it's gonna be really easy to be in a funk really easy and call your friends yeah so important just to connect and be connected to people and this is a great chance to kind of go back to people you haven't talked to you in a while and check in but could you imagine if this happened in another time where we didn't have the connection yeah you know it's there's no excuses now yeah and we're more spread out than we've probably ever been and so in touch with our friends and family is harder to do but almost easier to because it's possible yeah and having real conversations instead of your normal text conversations like I would say even if you just with one extra one person a day just call someone that you know and love and just didn't have time to to really spend with them and so Bobby I referenced before that we put an alert out to the Masterclass community asking for questions and I have a bunch of questions that I'd love to run past you get your thoughts on now we might not be able to get through all of them today but I'm so excited to have this discussion with you and we you actually started to discuss this first one earlier it's about Foundation and Kirstie asks can foundation be good for your skin or should we always try to minimize the use of it well foundation isn't bad for your skin I might not like the look of most foundation on the skin unless it's something that really suits your skin and looks natural as long as you wash your face at night it's there's nothing wrong with wearing foundation and guess what if you forget one night it's really not a big deal you just wash it the next day so you know foundation is fine too we're just make sure you take it off at night right and I I know in your class that you mentioned kind of the importance of taking a break for makeup too and just getting used to seeing yourself without makeup on honestly I think it's a really great thing to do you know whether it's the weekends whether it's a day you just put your hair in a ponytail put a face oil on you know you guys know if you saw my master class I am a really big fan of apricot kernel oil that is only it's under ten dollars that you can get it at your you know grocery store your health food store but you let your skin breathe and that's really important too and you know and you've got a self care doesn't have to be over the top you can also take the almond oil put it on your hands you could put a little bit in your hair you could definitely put it on your feet and put some socks on it hydration you know from the inside and the outside really does make you feel better it makes you look better yeah absolutely and kind of staying on this topic of healthy skin you know a lot of students sent in questions about how to cover up fine lines and wrinkles and I think there's two questions here the first being you know what would you say to people who feel like they need to remove these lines to feel beautiful and as you're 62 year old beauty experts and I spent a lot of my time looking at pictures of myself both on Zoom on video you know all over the internet it's amazing what the right lighting does so there's some times where I'm just like oh my god and then I realize you know what I am 62 I am healthy I want to look like a healthy version for me personally I'm not someone that shoots things in my face you know I'm I'm not opposed or against any choices anyone makes I have chosen to color my hundred percent gray hair but I am making peace with the lines in my face that's saying if I am NOT hydrated and I don't have the right moisturizer on my skin my lines look bad if I am hydrated and have the right cream on my my lines don't bother me so you know being rested is everything and think about yourself on a vacation how good you look when you're on a vacation try to try to bring that up in your head and when it comes to um you know makeup that I could put on to minimize these fine lines and wrinkles what would you recommend well there are a lot of blur products on the market I don't always think they actually blur they're just kind of you know a little sometimes they do but I really do find that moisturizer and oil like a teeny bit of oil will help plump the line so that really works a lot and so it's really moisture that's gonna make the lines softer to look at and there's nothing that's gonna get rid of them you know besides Botox then you know sometimes people get Botox and they look natural normal and fine and other times people get Botox and they don't right right and I know you know people come up to you and say all the time that I just don't know what to do with my makeup anymore and maybe the things that they used to do don't work for them anymore and you know how should people be evolving their makeup over time well I think that a lot of things have changed and I think they're gonna continue to change you know more and more people are are using less makeup and more and more people are using more makeup so you know there is the you know the world out there that does like full coverage contouring you know individual lashes false lashes you know more glamorous than I am and that's okay so the trick is to find what makes you feel your most beautiful I have I have no judgement for someone that you know looks in the mirror and is happy with what they look like and it should be you know different I am someone I'm comfortable in my skin especially you know recently more comfortable to wear less makeup so really the trick in life is to find what makes you comfortable and people always say well how do I become confident if you're comfortable in your skin that's how you become confident and yes do I wish I had my hairdresser here to give me like the best blowout you know and have my stylist there to give me the best outfit for camera but I don't right now and it's okay and you know I I know you mentioned contouring a minute ago and in the class we touch on it briefly and you share some really personal stories about when you've had makeovers done and they've contoured you in different ways and that didn't make you feel like your best self and Genevieve is is a member of masterclass who's senior class and was really curious about you know why you do feel the way you do about contouring and you know what it can can do for people and why you don't mother well it's funny because I'm not a fan of telling someone that there's something wrong with their face so you know changing the shape of your nose I find that if you're gonna contour it I'm gonna see it on your face I'm gonna see the brown and you know what why does everyone have to have this perfect little nose so but that's saying if someone wants to put something on it because it makes them feel better that's fine and I've worked with many actresses that not I have not contoured and they've asked me could you please and so I do it and I show them a mirror and they say thank you that's so much better I did it so lightly I'm not even sure if it was there but it's important as a makeup artist to make people feel comfortable with what they look like but I don't contour but sometimes I will use bronzer you know just a little bit under the neck because right now that's kind of my point that drives me crazy and by making it a little bit you know and I don't have to blend it so I'm choosing a color that you could just put on so am i contouring I don't know could I you know use it to kind of contour my face I could what for I'd much rather enhance and bring out you know the cheese instead of trying to make cheekbones that aren't there right and it makes me think back to you in your master class who shared a story from early on and your professional makeup career where you were doing Gary Hall's makeup no I think you you kind of learned what worked for Gary it was not something that you had to be you said I think that caught for at that time can you share the little vessel sure I was a very young makeup artist and I got hired to do a cover of British cosmopolitan with the uber supermodel Jerry Hall well you can imagine I was a nervous wreck and I packed all my things I arrived at the shoot she could not have been any nicer she was married to make at the time and I did her makeup and luckily she had her own false eyelashes on because there was I was not very good at false eyelashes I did her makeup it probably took about 45 minutes we talked the whole time and I showed her a mirror and she said oh wow thank you that's so pretty can I just make a few changes and I said sure she's can you hand me that could you hand me that and all of a sudden she redid her whole face like instead of me being oh my god what did I do wrong and be upset I realized it was an opportunity to learn what she was doing I did not have the ability to contour the way she did it it was masterful I mean she had worked with you know famous makeup artists like way bandy and all these other guys back then and she now I I'll post the picture she looks contoured but beautiful but certainly not where my aesthetic was and every time I did someone's makeup famous or not I would show mirror and I would adjust what they want to adjust it sometimes it's an eyebrow that one of the supermodels adjust it sometimes you know they're like oh it's fine oh it's fine they don't even look they don't care Isabella Rossellini oh it's beautiful she didn't care she knew she looked beautiful and you know in your class you have a chapter specifically for aspiring makeup artists and you do share like how important it is to show a mirror to your model and have conversations and you know if you're a model having your makeup done it's okay to pull the makeup artist aside and have conversations about what you like and maybe if something isn't working how to how to fix it is that right absolutely well first of all communicating with someone is you know it's a skill and it's a gift because you know someone has to be able to tell you they don't love what you've done or they love it or they would like it different and I learned this early on I'll never forget I was at a shoot with Cindy Crawford and I did her makeup and she said I love it great and the hairdresser did her hair and afterwards she said thank you it's beautiful and we left to go shoot on on location she said to the hairdresser all you don't have to stay hairdresser left and and Sydney Cindy said to me Teva brush I said all right I might I gave it to her she goes oh my god my hair and she combed it out and fixed it but she was so kind to this artist that clearly was a nervous wreck and did not do a great job and I just thought you know what there's a way to treat people and you know I've never forgotten that she was like that but you are okay to tell someone and if you are a woman that goes to a counter and gets your makeup done and you don't like it well you don't want to waste your time just say you know what it's too much there's a way to say it it's too much for me could you show me how I could do it with less just communicate right and I think it's a little bit of a change in topic but I know because I've heard from many people that I know you know when they're doing their makeup there may be afraid to go in and change things because I think if they make a mistake they have to start all over have you experienced that no I mean the only time I've started all over was when I realized how bad it was I had a couple experiences early on in my makeup career where I was once hired to do a famous model Kim Alexis for a cover of I think it was Glamour magazine and we had to be ready for sunrise which meant you know 5:45 so we got up at 4:45 I met her in some dark room did her makeup and by the time the Sun came up I realized she looked awful the colors were wrong and things weren't blended and I literally had a one second gonna say oh my god and so I didn't have to wash her face but I took a moisturizer with a sponge and I kind of took it all down and blended it and I was able then to quickly build it up and as an artist there is a skill at doing things fast and figuring it out and visually looking and being present for years when I would do fashion shows the models would be late we'd have to start Anna would be in the front row or the editors would be there and models will be coming in from the last show and sometimes they'd come in with the most intense dark bright awful makeup and of course I was hired to do a much more subtle job and you have to quickly four or five makeup artists attack take the makeup off get them ready so you have to be insightful you've got to be visually quick and you've got to move on your feet and be focused right and you know when we talk about having to be quick in that way Jessie had a question what is your single best multi-purpose tool hmm right here guys my fingers there's no question if the foundation doesn't look right I could put moisturizer on I can go like this I could do all that if the blush doesn't look right you could blend it in but probably my best tool which I keep in my kit is this little teeny brush from a makeup artist from the UK named Ruby that has three different heads fits together it's in my it's in my purse you could use a fear lips for your eyes for your brows so I like things that you could different things with right absolutely and you know I brought up just a second ago about you know whether you need to start over or not and you know I have another question here from Nancy and she talks about every time she applies her eyeshadow her eyes she says look more bruised than smokey and so I wanted to get your opinion what could be going wrong there and how might Nancy fix that to get that the look that she's going after I think two things there I first think that the color is wrong so for something to look Bruzzi it maybe has too much black in it could have some red in it anything with red is gonna make you look tired and it's gonna make you look bruised so make sure that the colors don't have red and I'm not sure Nancy if you are putting colors that are too dark for your skin because that can also go haywire which is why when I teach the smokey eye I teach this buildable way to do makeup you start with the lightest then you add the next lightest then you add the next one until you get to the darkest and it's layered so it's blended it's the opposite of blended you know blending is you take something really dark and fuzz it all down and that that's not always so easy for people so if we start light and blend up it is buildable and I think that makes a big difference right and for anyone who hasn't seen bobbies masterclass yet Bobby breaks down how to apply a perfect smoky eye in her class step by step and I mean it I remember leaving the section of our shoot talking about the smoky eye and all of a sudden realizing oh like it's actually it doesn't have to be that hard right it's it's not and by the way a smoky eye for fashion shows are completely different than you know an at home or a wedding or a black-tie smokey eye for fashion shows I often have to take like black greasepaint and do like an intense kind of you know really messed up smoky eye depending on the look or an editorial shoot so as a makeup artist you know I talk about scope and it's good to be able to do both right and you know when we were working on the smokey eye with our model Hannah you know she had these beautiful blue eyes and you're able to talk about different color combinations that worked really well on her and Lauren is another master class member who's taken your class and would love to know about other color combinations maybe for hazel eyes or other different colors well certainly the Grays always work on everybody the Smokies the greys you know from its the gradation from white to black like all in the middle if you think of a paint chart you could do a brown smokey eye so again you know going to look when you're able to go back to paint stores or just go online and if you look at the paint you know they all have different tones and look at a brown one look at a green one look at a purple one they have all the different tones so you could start with you know the lightest color up into the darkest and you know for hazel eyes I mean you can't go wrong with Browns hazel eyes also looks really great with the right plummy purple but it can't be too red if it's too red you're gonna look tired right and you know color is so important and I think it's easy to go well actually let me ask you is it possible to go too far with color I know when we experimented on set in your class you felt like maybe you did but like how do you find that balance between you know being playful with color finding what works for you without going too far well it's you do it and you say wow that's cool oh well why don't I do that wow that looks good and then you do something else say that's interesting and then you try something else you're like okay and then you go try something else and you're like oh my god that looks terrible and that's what happened I remember I kept building up the eye and then I ended up putting an extra blue on one side and then all of a sudden I noticed that it made her eyes look uneven in her head and it was we were on such a deadline there was no way I was gonna ask the you know the guys can I just do this over again so I used the mistake to say look to me it was stick to me I went too far you know other people said no no it's really great no to me I thought I went too far right and I think you know it's actually such a cool insight for people to have into not only your process but the process of making your class you know there are many different cameras on you as you're working but we also had monitors and you would step away to look at what you were doing and kind of make that evaluation on what you needed to do yeah I was it was it was complicated because I had one light on me sideways and every time I put my head down in something I'm like no you can't shoot a woman of a certain age you can't shoot anyone doing that it's not the most beautiful so I've gotten really good at doing makeup like this head up you know the right angle but then you know the concern is the model and then there's cameras all over the place but what does it really look like in the monitor so I had two artists in the monitor I had an assistant in the monitor but I still needed to go look because I tend to see things that other people don't I'm kind of eagle-eyed that way but you know I think the important thing for people to know that are out there that are maybe insecure about their own work those of us that are artists makeup artists we are not like these gods out there we are we are human and we are learning and we are not sure sometimes of what we're doing is the right you know other times we're like wow that's really great I know I nailed that we're normal we're human and just like you see chefs doing these you know master classes and I am the farthest thing from a chef I'm sure there's times where they're like I'm not sure was that good what do you think we're normal and guess what guys it's okay to ask someone what do you think of this do you think it's the right color do the eyebrows match so that's why it's good to have a posse and build your teeth right and you know we we all work so closely together putting your clip put in your class together because I didn't you got your team was so excellent with all the expertise on not only the styles that you were trying to show but also your style specifically and it was such an exercise in communication and bonding and I think that was really special to kind of look back on and see how we work together and from your point of view does that kind of mirror what professional sheets are like when you're doing an editorial shoot I mean it absolutely does even though as a freelance artist there's so many times where I get hired for a job where I walk and I don't know anyone and it takes you know a while to get comfortable but it's so awesome when you have your team you have a photographer a stylist the hair you know dresser the makeup artists you know the the assistants everyone you just work with together because it's it's like your comfort zone they could push you in certain ways or the or you could say you know I'm just having a bad day I don't feel good and and they cover your you know they cover your back or they say I remember when I was a young makeup artist I was really good friends with one of the assistant photographers and he would come over to me and he'd say you know you should really look the mascara just ran down her face or this and I realized I better get my you know act together and go stand right by the monitor because the assistants they see it and that's when I learned you got to be right there it was way before there was retouching so we had to be good at our jobs yeah absolutely and I have another question from Tamra and she you know we really love there's to be how how do you effectively cover dark circles under the eyes and I think I'm a great like how do I do it answer would really help well of course you start with an eye cream you need an eye cream because if you just put a concealer or a corrector on it will either get in the lines it will just not do the right thing and so the trick is the amount of eye cream depending how dry you are and it's almost like you're creating like a cushion for the eye cream to just blend in together it's almost like you're changing the texture of the concealer the corrector and depending on what your your depth of darkness the formula is the key as my as the color so I usually like one that is either creamy but not greasy not dry I find the wands don't work for me because they just kind of flatten things out and I don't like flattening I also when I use under-eye pencils you know corrector concealer pencils i it's a creamy formula so it blends with the moisturizer so the trick is to look in the mirror and find something that's gonna correct what you have if you're purple in your eyes if you're black in your eyes if whatever it is you need peachy or pinky colors that's gonna correct it and actually be too light to wear by itself and then you choose something that's one shade lighter than your skin color put it on top and you make sure you get it on the inner corner of the eye and you just you use your finger and then you let it sit and you might need to go back and add more of one of them but every day it's different somedays you're less dark under your eyes other days you're more and heaven ask so what if my makeup is creasing under my eyes so if I've done all of that and it starts to what can I do well if it's creasing you have either put too much moisturizer on because it's just gonna go increases and if you have lines you know lines under your eye you need just the right amount of cream that will smooth the area and hydrate it so you could immediately to fix it to not start all over add a little bit more of the concealer or the corrector and then put a very very light amount of face powder on top of it very light that really will basically just change the texture and make it you know make it stay will almost lock it in place so that's probably the best thing to do yeah I think that's great and I was actually wondering and again another little kind of shift in our conversation I'd love to talk about you know we talked in our in the class about how beauty standards changed and I'd love to hear from you like what what is beautiful today and from your opinion and you know what can people watching do too you know find this balance between what is you know the standard of beauty and what you know it's really working for them because I think there's some everyone's somewhere in the middle people have different standards of beauty and it has changed I mean when I was a kid growing up you know there was the role models with Barbie you know the cheerleaders at your school you know Cheryl Tiegs you know Christie Brinkley clearly classically beautiful and then you know I always talk about Ali MacGraw the first you know dark-haired strong eyebrow Beauty which helped me realize my own beauty but then as I evolved I realized I love women with the strong nose I love oh you know the women that have a bump in the nose I love freckles upon the face I love a gap-toothed I love you know just all these different looks that so many more you know ways to find beauty today than ever before there isn't anyone that isn't beautiful unless they're just a really not good person in my eyes so I happen to think that women who are mixed cultures myth mixed skin colors are just so stunning and when someone has you know dark skin and blue eyes and freckles how lucky so you know there's so many so many ways to be beautiful in this day and age absolutely and you know because there's so many ways to be beautiful there's so many ways to kind of find the ways that makeup works in your life you know there's people that are going to use it every day only sometimes and then there's artists that are looking for new ways to kind of make their passion for makeup into a career and I know we have a question from Aubrey who is 16 years old as taking a makeup artistry class is trying to do just that turn that passion into a career and I she was wondering what advice you might give her in today's age and what she did you well my best advice is to definitely follow your passion follow your dreams stay in school graduate if you're lucky enough to be able to go to college go to college for the education for the experience and just do makeup and just keep doing makeup and keep figuring out what your skill is honing your skill and start doing your friends makeup you know if you are you know prom do hopefully we'll get to prom this year but whenever we do you know volunteer to do people's makeup and ask them their opinion and just be focused on what you love and keep at it yeah I think you know if you're at home with your families you can be practicing on your family lisanna yes I used to do makeup on my grandfather don't even ask how he let me do that Papa Sam and what would you do on him I mean he obviously just loved you so much to let you experiment from Russia Cart you know he had a car dealerships kind of a tough character all of his I think he was five three five four don't ask me how we let him dress him up as a you know a Russian older woman and my sister and I put our clothes on him and I made him up and I just can't even believe he allowed us to do that but we did and it was fun and thank you papa Sam and everyone else that allowed my 16 year old hands to you know to do a bruise or to do whatever I was obsessed with at the moment yeah what a you know learning opportunity and where the anyone watching can just continue to hone their skills you know it's just practice practice practice exactly exactly well Bobby we are just about out of time before I kind of do our wrap up I wanted to ask is there anything that you want to just kind of talk about or say today that we didn't well just for all of you guys that have watched the master class and have made comments and I you know I have to I read them and I you know I hear you know the majority of these positive amazing comments and they mean a lot to me so I'm really grateful and really appreciative and you know I I read everything so I appreciate you know the comments and I try to get back and answer things but you know with this day and age if you have more questions you know I would love to be able to answer them so you know please keep them going and my hope for everyone is health and you know we'll get out of this guys we're all in this together stay home you know watch a lot of master class and just keep thinking about the future absolutely well thank you so much Bobby it's so important to be able to talk to you today even in this new way and always very special for me to connect with you again no thank you I can't wait to go out to dinner with you and uh in the in the soon future I hope absolutely and so for everyone watching thank you for joining us for this session of masterclass live we're gonna be doing these every week on Wednesday next week's session is going to be with dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson so please come back and join us Bobby thank you so much again we'll talk you
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