Massey Ferguson Perkins 3.152 sleeve replacement and tear down

[Music] okay we're going to start the uh disassembly of the 3152 with a lot to it already but this particular motor we've replaced the head on it i'm going to pull it apart we'll demonstrate we're going to pull the pistons out of it we're going to pull sleeves out of it and just do a rebuild on this engine so here we go [Music] [Music] [Music] one thing i wanted to show you i got the oil pan off but right here in this cavity on the dipstick side of the motor i had all dripping out of that hole um when the tractor was running i didn't notice it when it's cold but after it got warm and the oil was warm i had a substantial leak right there and i just want to show you a couple of things there's a bolt right there it goes into the block uh holes are all panned on [Music] and when we take the oil pan off you know see the light i hope you can see it through the boat hole anyway that hole right there is the hole it all come from or actually it wouldn't it would have been this side for sure yeah and um just directly to the crank case so it had a good reason to leak all boat was missing so i was worried about this rear seal when i pull the motor off the bell housing the clutch and the bell housing just dries the bone this rear seal is obviously not leaking it's that so that's a good thing no matter how long you work on these any machine there's always something that'll surprise you like that boat being missed i'm glad that's it and i'm glad i feel confident that was all problems so i'm gonna get these old pickup tubes out of the way and we start pushing the pistons out i'll show you something here that when i took the nut off this tab was broken that's not uncommon but it absolutely needs to be repaired this is the this little tab on this bracket where it bolts to the main bearing and that holds this pickup tube down inside the screen i've taken these apart and this tube has fractured and it sucked air the oil pressure fell off and burned the motor up so this tab is a crucial as you can see that's broke it's broken vibration i always reinforce it put a little heavier piece on there so i'll fix this before i put it back together i'm pulling this front cover off so i can get the front mane off i guess i want taking the crankshaft completely out of it i don't think it's necessary because the motor held 75 pounds oil pressure and i know somebody's been in it and i think they did an end frame but they did it poorly so i guess it makes sense to check every everything too much work not to get back now you take this little piece i always like to make sure they're absolutely flush right here this is a separate component then the oil pump can come off you can't get the tube off uh and you certainly couldn't torque the main cap back down without taking this off this this is the supply line that supplies the oil to the filter and then from the filter throughout the block but it's trapped you have to put them on there together i'm gonna go ahead and pull this gear off right here give me uh excess access to the to the bolts on the pump it's got a c-clip on the front of it the pump of course is not timed it's a gear it's a gear driven pump i'm gonna lay the clip in my drive here my tray [Music] now i can easily get to these bolts he's breezy he's breathing when you do it in the right procedure these bolts i always like to use six point uh sockets on them they're very shallow for gear clearance so they're special bolts that go in that pump and you want to make sure i always put blue loctite on when i put them back in as well gives me a handle if you'll notice on these engines the one two and three are numbered on the rods and the caps and they match i'll confirm the numbers and the caps on which side of the block they're going before i put them back in or put new pistons on on them so we'll get this thing all right always confirm never take for granted that it's right when you take it apart know that it's right when you put it back together [Music] these bolts they're not torqued to yield in other words they have a torque spec for them um a lot of people reuse them most time i don't i usually replace them with new ones they're not that much money the bearings don't look that bad this is the closest one to the pump the rod that'll be the most severely damaged if you've got an all issue or probably the one furthest away from the pump so jury's still out on rod bearings if you've got them out you might as well replace them that's my opinion so in this cylinder we don't have a counterweight bob to have to contend with that rock cap looks pretty good do this pairing actually looks good as well real tight in the caps if you look right here i'll wipe it off i don't know if you see it not but this is 20 that means that crankshafts is 20 thousandths under size so this bearing 20 000 it's oversized it's got a date on it three eight notices 3-1 b excuse me that's not a day and it's a beep co bearing this one has a counterweight bob so we'll rotate it we'll let it do some of the work for us by pushing the piston down all right as far as the crankshaft and pushing pick up my bearing that's the first one this slipped out big co 20 i'll show you something on this rod bolt kind of coat typically most sets are not this way the rod bolt has this oval head on it it has a flat right here if you'll notice it's got a cut on it right there that cut and these bolts will only go in the rod with this reveal on the main body side this has got to go away from the crankshaft for them to fit so i've kept these bolts throughout the process oriented the hole they come out of too and it's got that reveal on them that's not particularly normal but it is kind of cool it's a nice bolt all right we're going to turn the motor back over now i don't see anything that's screaming at me i'm bad there all three none of them look perfect but clearly this one compression there's all three little logs these two this is the best cylinder we had weakest and in the middle um after we run it we had 350 pounds on this one maybe 320 on that one and 250 on this one 225 with the valves working and the piston going and after we ran it i'd hope that would improve uh if it had a ring stuck or something that i couldn't see but obviously the rings were not stuck so um these are chrome lined sleeves in this engine the rings are in it i don't know what they are but you cannot run a chrome sleeve and a chrome ring they'll they'll never see they'll always use all have poor compression that sort of thing chrome leaves with cast iron ring or malleable iron ring they'd work fine uh one thing about this motor too is these sleeves are slightly recessed and there's three type sleeves one's it's called stovepipe they have no reveal on them at all i don't know what these are um but i suspect they have a reveal on them i just suspect they're within spec when you read them they can't be more than 9 000 steep and one of these is like 7 000 the others are three to six so um if we pull these out we'll check our reveal and make sure we get the right sleeves to go back in it one of the things you do on these motors usually when i do sleeves i let the machine shop press them in and out uh i've actually got a porta pony trying to be able to bring more of these back to life by not having to farm out that labor i've made a plug and it's got a reveal on it it should fit [Music] right inside this sleeve i carried a brand new sleeve with me and made it to fit and it does if it's perfect and it's small enough so this will come through the block so what i'm gonna do i'm gonna put this plug in the bottom put a rod through put a power pony hydraulic press on it and i'll pull these sleeves out they're dry sleeves and these original sleeves were friction fit uh which means they're tight and they're hard to come out and whoever put these in there's no telling what kind of sleeve sealer they put on them too i've had them uh i've seen the shop break them loose and it popped like a gunshot almost when they break loose to come out we'll see how these do and see if i can do it or not um we'll see okay everybody we're in a process of pulling these sleeves out this is the first time i've ever done it i've always carried it to machine shop in the past but in order to save some of the money uh and to make some of these tractors come back to life i thought i'd i'd get attempted myself i don't think it's gonna be that hard to do i'll show you underneath as well there's the cup hope you can see that pretty well the rod's in the cup looks couple it's seated properly so i'm gonna give her a shot see how she looks i've got these crank journals they're perfect so i got them protected just in case i bumped them or something we'll give her a shot see how she does [Music] looks like it's coming outside i was expecting to make a noise we're about three inches long [Music] all right i'm in the process i'm gonna i've already put two sleeves in and i want to show you guys the install of one of these units as it goes together i don't make sure i got everything off my cylinder a lot of people just put a little bit of oil on these and slide them in i actually use a sleeve adhesive which is old school but old school's good if you ever have a flange crack on one flange being this part right here if it cracks and break breaks off and they're not adhered in the block now that adhesive will wipe off as as this cylinder comes sleeve goes in the block so it basically coated all the way around yeah make sure you hang on to them i always have a fear of dropping ones kind of like putting piston rings on sure don't have a problem at this point with these components there we go these sleeves now used to be this harder to press in i always carry the machine shop to have them done and i've gotten to a point where the fit it's not as severe as they used to be now find them apart here we go this is my piston that i made to pull my sleeves out with i also use them to reinstall and i'll show you a little trick just as we get to the bottom [Applause] this bar this threaded rod is attached to a flat bar that bridges the bottom of the block it runs across i'll show it to you when we get going here i'll get some tension on it okay my piston seated well this bar is not there we go patience and checking double checking is a good thing we'll put just a little bit of tension on it now pushing it in coming out take about three or four strokes straight up down with the engine block how most people do when you're by yourself sideways seems to work i can get to both ends and if i had a way in the floor [Music] hear this pump it's really not struggling but i'm sure you'd never be able to deal with this without this hydraulic helper as it's going in that sealer wipe off it would go right up the side of the sleeve [Music] this was definitely the tightest one i've had so far you're never too old to learn and pulling these sleeves i've always sent these blocks out machine shop to have the sleeves pulled but i do so many and i had just about everything i needed to do them myself and to save some money and give me the opportunity to bring some of these tractors back to life without breaking the bank i bought a few pieces and made a few pieces uh to pull these sleeves now i had a problem i showed y'all about how we pulled them and how we put them in and i'm going to show you a problem i had with the last sleeve i installed i had my pump setting up here to push the uh to push the sleeve in place these two went in no problem i got to the third one i got right to the last and my ram my piston the piston i call it this the piston and this is an old sleeve that i pulled out it's got a step in it right there that step is machined to fit inside of this sleeve perfectly it goes in there flush and this dimension is just a few thousand smaller than exterior bore so it can come through the block to pull this sleeve out and this is the flange of course at the top of the of the block where the cylinder head would be but i pulled them out no problem and i was using this component to push them back in with and i'd even gone as far when i'd get them down and keep in mind there are sleeves now these are interference fit you got to press them in and press them out i've been told and i've heard there's some sleeves now that are called a slip fit the sleeves that i purchased for this motor certainly was not that i had to press pull them out and had to press them in and i'd use this and i'd get down to toward the end and i've actually made a piece that i could slip around my rod like so put this back on top and press them in the rest of the way and this would be the stop in other words but i had a problem mentally was it in the center of the sleeve i wanted it to be in the center of the sleeve so the third one was a little harder to do than normal and also i'm going to show you one other thing the original sleeves have just ever so slight chamfer just a slight and that's where the rings would go in there's nothing they're totally square on the bottom that's why my piston my ram my pusher worked great pulling them out now the new sleeves that i purchased to put in the motor i'm going to show you i'll walk you right over here [Music] i hope you people can see this this bevel right here right there and right there it's you know four or five thousandths of an inch deep the bevel there you sit on both of those [Music] and [Music] because of that bevel on the top of the sleeve i'm going to show you my heartache ah i had this sleeve in to right here [Music] and there's that bevel i broke it there's this bevel and i had my ram on it well because the step is so small between here and here because you got to clear the bore that gave even less surface area for this to push on so what it did it spread this and ruptured the sleeve so i had to pull it i had to pull it back out and you see how nice it fits in the bottom fits in there great and it's square and i had no problem pulling them out and they were relatively hard to pull out so with that being said i ordered new sleeve two days later got it i made another part i made a part that this is this diameter cylinder interior cylinder bore and they go right in that cylinder no problem and then this flange here when i put it in a new cylinder it's more than ample surface all the way around the flange so it can push these sleeves in i guess the moral of the story is is you you live and learn never too old stop learning so i had to purchase another cylinder sleeve and i'm going to show you something on the replacement sleeve that i ordered and the frustration of a tractor mechanic there's the number on this particular sleeve and the number this is actually on the same numbers on the box the new one that i got [Music] but i want to show you something with this new sleeve this edge right here is square totally square i believe that if these sleeves have been configured like this sleeve i wouldn't had any problem but because of variants of manufacturers and course both sets of sleeves are within tolerance they're they're fine it's just it's just you never you never stop learning so and [Music] you never can have too many parts you can't buy on one of these you'd go broke i just made the round one made a square one drilled hole and welded them together so i could uh keep them together and then that's my hole for my rod to go through and it worked out perfect so i'm gonna put this one in and i think i'd showed you guys the other day about uh the piston rings and of course the pistons the number of the piston goes in the block away from the cam shaft and the manufacturer of these this oil ring here they they basically want you to there's a gap there's several things goes home with this there's a gap right this is a little gap in the bottom and there's a little gap in the top you see that one particular piece where the point is right there the point that's the only one like that they want it directly over the wrist pin then i place my other ring gaps i'll put one to that side of this wrist pin i'm gonna take this one i'm gonna turn it and i'm gonna put it [Music] just to the other side of the wrist pin [Music] and you do that because the pistons rock you likes something they didn't but they do they rock so over the wrist pins the least amount of rock because over here you'd be rocking way more so that's the most stable place to place your rings we'll put the ring squeezer on put this this last piston in the hole [Music]

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Length: 31min 22sec (1882 seconds)

Published: Thu Jan 28 2021