>> LET ME PRAY FOR US. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE HOPE WE HAVE. OUR HOPE IS NOT IN HEAVEN. OUR HOPE IS HEAVEN IS YOU. OUR HOPE IS NOT IN THE THINGS OF THIS WORLD. OUR HOPE IS FOR YOU. YOU'RE THE GREAT PROVIDER OF US, THE SUSTAINER OF US. IN A WORLD FULL OF DOUBT AND HOPESLESS OF COURSE, A WORLD FULL OF WE PRAY THAT TODAY, GOD, YOU WILL USE YOUR SERVANT AND DRAW GOD CLOSER TO YOU. AMEN. >> AMEN. CAN WE THANK PHIL WICKHAM FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING? [ APPLAUSE ] >> IT'S 6 A.M. WHERE YOU NORM -- WHERE YOU ARE? >> 5:30 IS MY NORMAL MAKEUP CALL FOR ME. I HAVE FOUR KIDS. >> I WOULD SAY YOU AND CHRIS, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE EVERY YEAR. >> I'M HONORED TO BE AMONG THOSE MEN. THAT IS INCREDIBLE. THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK. >> I THINK A TESTAMENT OF THE REASON WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND LIKE THAT SO OFTEN, WHEN YOU COME IN, YOU'RE NOT JUST INTERESTED IN BEING ON OUR STAGE, YOU'RE INTERESTED IN AND DEVELOPING THINGS WITH OUR STUDENTS. YOU HAVE WRITTEN THREE OR FOUR SONGS WITH OUR WORSHIP COLLECTIVE. YOU AND I HAVE WRITTEN A FEW SONGS. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT SONG WRITING. >> YOU'RE PRETTY GOOD. >> YOU ARE GOOD AT SCRIPTURE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU NEED WHEN YOU WRITE A WORSHIP SONG. >> MORE THAN BEING AN ARTIST, YOU'RE A WORSHIP PASTOR. I'M EXCITED NOT ONLY ABOUT THIS MORNING, BUT CAMPUS COMMUNITY WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT FEW AMEN. THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE WE BROUGHT YOU YOU IN WITH YOUR BROTHER EVAN. WE TALKED ABOUT THE THEOLOGY OF BEING A SIBLING. OBVIOUSLY THE MAJORITY OF OUR STUDENTS HAVE A BROTHER OR SISTER, THEY'RE PART OF THEIR FAMILY. WE SAID WHAT DOES THAT LOOKS LIKE. WHAT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE FOR YOU? >> JUST TO START OFF, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME BACK. AS FAR AS COMING OUT WITH MY BROTHER, LAST TIME, THAT SPECIAL. WE WANT YOU TO GO IN FRONT OF THOUSAND THOUSAND PEOPLE IN PERSON AND ON SCREEN AND TALK TO US ABOUT YOUR FAMILY. OKAY, AT FIRST I WANTED TO SAY CAN YOU THROUGH US SOME SOFT BALLS, GO AND PLAY SOME GAMES AND DO SOME WORSHIP SONGS. >> I REMEMBER SAYING EVAN, PHIL, I'M SURE YOU BOTH DO THIS A LOT. >> I REMEMBER SAYING THAT. YOU WERE LIKE, NO, YOU HAVE NEVER DONE THIS. OBVIOUSLY THAT TRIP ENDED UP BEING WEIRDLY AND STRANGELY AND UNEXPECTEDLY THEY ARE PUT I CAN FOR ME AND MY BROTHER. >> HOW WAS THAT? >> THERE IS ALWAYS THAT SIBLING RYANRY THING. WE'RE CLOSE IN AGE. GOD HAS GIVEN BIG OPEN DOORS FOR ME TO WALK THROUGH TO DO THAT. I ALWAYS HESITATED. IS THIS A TOUCHY SUBJECT. THERE IS STUFF THAT WE JUST HAD NEVER TALKED ABOUT. ONCE WE FINALLY HAD A CHANCE TO OPEN UP IN FRONT OF 10,000 PEOPLE, WHAT WE FOUND OUT IS THERE'S A TON OF RESPECT AND A TON OF LOVE WHERE WE WERE AFRAID TO BRING UP THINGS IT TOOK US WELL INTO OUR MID--- I'M 36, HE'S 39. INTO OUR MID-30s TO CONFIRM THAT TO EACH OTHER. THERE'S BEEN A LOT MORE OPENNESS IN OUR RELATIONSHIP WE DIDN'T KNOW NEEDED TO HAPPEN SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> WHAT I REMEMBER IS WHEN I LOOK BACK AND PEOPLE SHOULD LOOK AT THIS CONVO, YOU SPENT SO MUCH OF YOUR ENERGY JUST TRYING TO HONOR AND DEFENDER TO YOUR BROTHER AS THE MOST TALENTED HE'S PROBABLY THE BETTER MUSICIAN. THE WORLD IS GETTING TO SING SONGS ABOUT IT. AND THEN HONESTLY OFF AGE WATCHING THE DINE OF YOUR TWO LIVES IT WAS GENERALLY AMAZING. SOME OF OUR STUDENTS REALLY HAVE BROKEN RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR SIBLINGS. THE SONG YOU JUST SANG -- WAS CERTIFIED. CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TRAVELING A LOT. >> NO. THIS YEAR CHANGED A LOT FOR PEOPLE, FOR ME. SINCE I WAS 18 YEARS OLD, THAT WAS MY JOB, GO AND WORSHIP AND PLAY MUSIC, GET THE CALENDAR FILLED UP. FROM 100 TO 140 DATES A YEAR, THE LAST 20 YEARS ALMOST. I HAVE TO ADMIT THERE WAS A LITTLE ANXIETY THERE. WHAT DO I DO, WHAT IS MY PLACE IN THE WORLD NOW. I THINK CREATIVITY, YOU CAN STILL REACH PEOPLE, ON THE INTERNET. WE FIGURED OUT SOME THINGS AND HAD SOME TIME TO DO SOME THINGS I ALWAYS WANTED TO DO. MORE SONG WRITING. IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING YEAR. >> SOME THINGS I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT RIGHT OFF THE BAT, ALL OF YOUR MARRIAGE YOU HAVE BEEN IN A RHYTHM, WHERE PHIL IS GROWN 150 DAYS A YEAR, ESPECIALLY WITH CHILDREN, AND THAT ADDED IN. SHE IS LEARNING HOW TO BE AROUND YOU ON THE WEEKDAYS JUST ABOUT EVERY WEEKEND OR YOU'RE ON A BOSS FOR A 30 OR 40 CITY TOUR. ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE HOME FOR A LONG TIME. >> THINGS CHANGE FOR US. >> WHAT WAS THAT LIKE? >> WE STARTED DONATED WHEN I WAS 21. WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER THE MAJORITY OF MY LIFE. WE LEARN HOW TO COPE WITH THAT. WHEN I WAS HOME, THERE WAS ISSUES AND THINGS. 100%, MAYBE 98%, BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAD NEVER BEEN TAKEN CARE OF OR TALKED THROUGH BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS EITHER GOT SLIPPED UNDER THE RUG, HE IS LEAVING TOMORROW FOR FOUR DAYS, I WANT TO BRING THIS UP NOW OR EVEN MY WIFE, I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS HAPPENING, SHE WAS BEING HEAD PARENT BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF TIMES SHE HAD TO SINGLE PARENT AND I WAS COMING IN ASSISTANT PARENT. IT WE CAN'T SWEEP SOME STUFF UNDER THE RECOGNIZE. MAYBE I'M BEING THOUGHTLESS IN THIS SITUATION. IT'S BEEN VERY HEALTHY FOR MY MARRIAGE. I THOUGHT THEY SAID 10 DAYS OR 15 DAYS AND WE'RE IN APRIL NOW. WE HAD TO LEARN TO BE MORE THOUGHTFUL, MORE SELFLESS. CAME OUT THE OTHER SIDE LOVING, RESPECTING HER MORE, I THINK VICE VERSA. >> GOING PAST THAT IT HAS AFFORDED YOU MAYBE NOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ON THE ROAD, BUT A LOCAL MORE TIME BEING ABLE TO SONG WRITE, DEVELOP THE NEXT ALBUM. YOU'RE NORMALLY ALL OVER THE PLACE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE TIME TO CURVE OUT SONGS. HAS IT BEEN A THOUGHTFUL PROCESS? >> YES. THANK FULL FOR ZOOM. EVERY THURSDAY I WAS HANGING OUT WITH THIS WRITER ON ZOOM, THIS PRODUCER. IT WAS A MESS. AS A BELIEVER, I HOPE AND TRY TO SEE THE WORLD DO GOD -- THROUGH GOD'S -- GOD'S EYES. SEE A BIGGER PICTURE. YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER. WHAT PRAYERS DOES MY HEART WANT TO PRAY, WHAT PRAYERS DO I WANT TO BRING INTO LIBERTY. SOME DIFFICULT SONGS TO WRITE. VERY LIBERATING SONGS TO WRITE. IT WAS WRITTEN PROBABLY THE HEIGHT OF JUST SOCIAL UNREST. THERE WAS A COUPLE WEEKS I FELT LIKE I WAS FALLING APART. I WAS TALKING TO MY FRIEND A LOT, WHO I WRITE WITH. WE WERE TALKING POLITICS, JUST THE WORLD AND FAMILY. WE JUST LANDED ON JESUS. TALK ABOUT JESUS, WHAT HE HAS DONE. HE'LL RENEW THE CREATION HE MADE. INSTEAD OF LIVING UNDER THE RULE OF SIN AND DEATH WE'VE GOING TO LIVE UNDER THE RULE OF JESUS. EVEN RIGHT NOW HOLD BACK THE TEARS. IT BRINGS UP HOPE. IF YOU LIVE WITH YOUR HEAD NOT IN THE CLOUDS, BUT OF KNOWING THE END. IT CAN FORM EVERY DECISION. IT CAN FORM EVERY CONVERSATION WITH THE KIDS. A FEW DECISIONS HERE. SUCH A QUICK THING. I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE DAY, MY HEART IN A WHOLE NEW WAY, I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE DAY WHEN WE ARE LOOKING NOT AT A MAN OR AN IDEOLOGY OR WHATEVER AS KING, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT JESUS AS KING OF THE WORLD. CAN I PLAY A SONG? >> THE FIRST TIME I'M GETTING TO PLAY. >> I LITERALLY HAVE NEVER -- I SING IT IN A STUDIO, BUT I HAVE NEVER SAT DOWN AND PLAYED THIS ALL THE WAY THROUGH FOR EVERYBODY. IT'S 2020. >> LET ME DO THIS. IF YOU'RE WATCHING LIVE STREAM, JUST BOW YOUR HEAD FOR A SECOND. I THINK THIS IS VERY PERSONAL IN THE ROOM THIS MORNING, THE CIRCUMSTANCES IN YOUR LIFE ARE OVERWHELMING. IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE TURNING ON THE TV. JUST YOUR LIFE RIGHT NOW IS IN A -- IF YOU RIGHT NOW AS A BELIEVER WANT TO BE REMINDED THAT WE CAN EVEN LOSE LITTLE BATTLES, BUT WE'RE A WAR ALREADY WON, BUT HERE ON EARTH ON THIS BROKEN WORLD, THERE'S THIS HARDSHIP AND THIS BROKENNESS AND THERE'S STRIVE, BUT WE HAVE THIS REALITY THAT WE KNOW THE END SCORE, AS PHIL JUST SAID, WE KNOW THAT AS A PEOPLE OF GOD, THAT HEAVEN IS THE FULLY MANIFESTOED PRESENT OF -- PRESENCE OF GOD. WHAT HELPS US TO BE ABLE TO PERSEVERE IS WHATTER -- WHEN WE'RE SO CAUGHT UP LOOKING DOWN, WE CAN LOOK UP AND SAY WE KNOW WHERE WE END, WE KNOW THE HOPE OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE IS A DAY, WHEN THERE IS NO BROKENNESS, THERE IS A DAY WHEN THERE IS NO HOPESNESS, THERE IS A DAY WHEN THERE IS NO MORE DIVORCE, MO MORE APART HIDE, JUST HATED, A DAY WHEN THERE IS NOTHING, BUT UNITY, SO WE LOOK TO THAT. LET'S JUST BE REMINDED OF THAT AS PHIL JUST MINISTERS TO US. >> I CAN TELL YOU THAT MAY BE THE FIRST TIME IS SINCE YOU, BUT IT CERTAINLY WON'T BE THE LAST. IT WILL WE MIND PEOPLE TO LOOK BEYOND THE IMMEDIATE AND LOOK TO THE ETERNAL WE HAVE. WHAT A POWERFUL SONG. YOU JUST REMINDED ME OF THESE SONGS ARE PERCENTAGE FOR YOU. WE ALWAYS SAY WITH THE WORSHIP COLLECTIVE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING AND TRAINING YOUNG WORSHIP PASTORS, ARE YOU CONVINCED OF THAT'S LYRICS, TUBE THIS TO BE TRUE. THERE WILL BE A A DAY WHERE THERE WILL BE NO BATTERED WOMEN, MORE MORE BROKEN HOMES, WHERE NO ONE WILL HAVE TO PUT MAKEUP ON A BRUCE AND LIE AND TELL THE TRUTH ON WHAT IS GOING ON, THERE IS GOING TO BE A DAY WHEN ALL THAT IS GOING TO BE GONE, IF YOU'RE CONVINCED OF THAT THEN JUST CONVINCE PEOPLE, THAT IS WHAT A WORSHIP PASTOR DOES, CONVINCE PEOPLE. THESE ARE REAL FOR YOU. >> YES. YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN INTENSE AMOUNT OF CONVICTION. THERE IS BELIEF AND FAITH INVOLVED. >> THAT IS WHY THERE IS A SERIOUSNESS. THIS IS TRUE FOR YOU. >> FOR ME IT'S SO SIMPLE. THE MORE ARRAY LINE MYSELF, THE MORE I FEEL ALIVE, THE MORE I EXPERIENCE JOY, THE MORE I FEEL A SENSE I'M WHERE HUMANS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE, IF ANYTHING JUST FOR ME PERSONALLY THAT IS THE HUGEST THING THAT GIVES ME CONVICTION. WHEN I REMIND MYSELF OF TEACHING JESUS, IT'S AN INTERESTING WAY TO PUT IT MAYBE. IF I DO, IT ENDS UP I WASN'T BELIEVING THE RIGHT THING, I LIVED A LIFE THAT WAS WORTHY OF LIVING. THERE'S NOTHING MORE CONVINCING THAN THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE. >> 100%. YOU SAID THE WORD CONVINCING AND CONVICTING FOUR TIMES. >> SORRY. >> NO. THIS IS FROM CONVICTION. WE PULL GO TO WRITE TOGETHER WITH THE BIBLE OPEN, A SONG CALLED "ONE CONVICTION." I THOUGHT IT WAS IRONIC THAT THE GUY WHO WROTE "THIS IS AMAZING GRACE," I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, WE BEGAN THE SONG WITH GOD IS ALSO A GOD OF AMAZING WRATH. I SAID HOW AMAZING WOULD IT BE IF A GUY WHO PENNED THIS IS AMAZING GRACE, THIS IS AMAZING LOVE. HE'S ALSO SAYING THE CROSS IS ALSO AMAZING WRATH. BOTH THINGS ARE FLOWING DOWN AT THE FOOT OF THE CROSS. FOR THOSE WHO RECEIVE THE CROSS, BEND THEIR KNEE TO IT, WHAT CHRIST HAS DONE, IT'S AMAZING GRACE. FOR THOSE WHO DON'T THAT IS THE HARD, SOFT TRUTH. IT'S AMAZING. I'M HOLDING ONTO THAT CONVICTION. WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT SONG TONIGHT. >> IT'S GONE THROUGH SOME MORE -- DIFFERENT SITUATIONS. WE'RE GOING TO GET ON THAT. >> THAT WILL BE AWESOME. >> ONE OTHER SONG AS A WAY WE GO OUT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TONIGHT WITH THE WORSHIP COLLECTIVE AND YOU, BUT I'D LOVE FOR OUR STUDENTS TO HEAR IS THE FIRST SINGLE YOU RELEASED OFF THIS UPCOMING RECORD CALLED "BATTLE BELONGS." TELL US ABOUT THAT. >> I WROTE IT AT THE END OF 2019. AS YOU DO THING ARE -- ANYTHING FOR A LONG TIME, YOU REALIZE WHEN SOMETHING IS QUALITY AND WHEN YOU FEEL YOU CAN DO BETTER. THIS SONG IS SPECIAL. RIGHT AFTER ME AND MY BUDDY BRIAN WROTE IT, I DIDN'T EVEN THINK THERE WAS FINISHED. THERE IS SOMETHING IN THIS SONG THAT FEELS SPECIAL TO ME IN THAT ROOM. THIS IS SUCH A FAITH IN THE IN THE MIDDLE OF A BATTLE IN THIS SONG. WHERE DOES MY HELP COME FROM. HONESTLY IN A MOMENT I WASN'T GOING THROUGH ANYTHING. I REMEMBER TALKING AND SAYING I'M SO CURIOUS WHAT THE SONG IS FOR AND WHO IT'S FOR AND WHERE IT'S GOING TO LIVE AND 2020 HAPPENS AND I REALLY -- >> I'M HUMMING IT AROUND THE HOUSING. I WONDER IF I'LL DO THIS ON MY NEXT RECORD. IN 2020, IT'S ME AND MY FAMILY AND MY KIDS, I FIGHT ON MY KNEES WITH GOD. WHEN I WAS WASHING DISTINGUISHES OR CHANGING A DISCIPLE OR SOMETHING, JUST NOT THINKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS, LORD, I NEED THE DESPERATION, DEPRESSION, WITH GRATITUDE AND WORSHIP TO YOU. IN 2 CHRONICLES, THERE IS WORD -- IT'S CALLED A HORD. IT'S A HUGE ARMY FOR DIFFERENT NATIONS COMING TOGETHER. ANY ARMY STRATEGIST WOULD LOOK AT WHAT IS COMING AND COMPARE TO WHAT THEY HAVE. >> OUTNUMBERED. >> YES. THEY'RE GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED. PEOPLE OF GOD COME TO GOD. WE'RE HELPLESS AGAINST THIS HORDE. REMINDING HIS HIS OWN HEART, YOU HAVE DONE THIS SO YOU CAN DO IT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO. WE'RE HELPLESS. GOD SPEAKS TO HIS PEOPLE. GOD SAYS YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO FIGHT IN THIS BATTLE. STAND FIRM, HOLD YOUR POSITION, AND SEE THE SALVATION OF THE LORD ON YOUR BEHALF, WHICH IS SUCH AN AMAZING PROMISE. EVEN EQUALLY AMAZING TO ME IN THAT MOMENT, THE CORD WAS STILL COMING. IT'S NOT LIKE IN THAT MOMENT, THEY -- FELLOW MAN DIED. THERE IS STILL THE BATTLE TO BE FOUGHT. THE ACTIVE FATE -- FAITH OF WHAT THE ISRAELITES DID. INSTEAD OF MEETING WITH THE ARMY, AN ACT OF FAITH, PUTTING THE WORSHIP LEADERS ON THE FRONT LINES, THEY PUT US ON THE FRONT LINE SINGING GLORY OF GOD AS THEY WORSHIPED TO THE ENEMY, WORSHIPED TO THE BATTLE. THEY STOOD THERE IN FAITH AND WATCHED GOD. IT REMINDS ME OF WHAT JESUS DID ON THE CROSS. THERE IS AN ENEMY THAT WE ARE DEFENSELESS AGAINST. DEATH, SIN. GOD THROUGH HIS ACTIONS, STAND, STAND FIRM, HOLD YOUR POSITION. WE WATCH THE SALVATION OF THE LORD AS HE HUNG ON THE CROSS OF OUR SENSE. IT'S REMEMBERING WHAT GOD HAS DONE IN THE PAST. >> PHIL WILL LEAD US IN THAT SONG. >> THIS IS THE COFFEE SHOP VERSION. >> YEAH. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU, PHIL AND PASTOR DAVID. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A GREAT NIGHT AS CAMPUS COMMUNITY. PHIL IS GOING TO BE SINGING FOR US. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GREAT WORSHIP AND THEN PASTOR DAVID WILL BE PREACHING ON PRAYER. SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO AN EXCITING NIGHT. MY WIFE AND I ARE GOING TO BE THERE. WE HAVE SOME OF OUR OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE COMING EARLY FOR OUR BOARD MEETING. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT TIME TONIGHT AT CAMPUS COMMUNITY. SO I WANT ALL OF YOU TO COME. NOW MAYBE YOU WANT TO BRING A LIGHT JACKET, IT WILL BE A LITTLE COOL, BUT THEY ARE TELLING ME IT'S GOING TO BE WARM. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU LET'S DON'T MISS THIS SPECIAL NIGHT. EXPECT GOD TO DO A MIGHTY WORK IN YOUR LIFE. BEFORE WE FINISH, LET ME PRAY FOR ALL OF US. OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR GREAT LOVE FOR US, AND, LORD, AS WE COME TOGETHER TONIGHT IN CAMPUS COMMUNITY, LORD, WE JUST PRAY THAT YOU WOULD ANOINT THAT SERVICE, THAT YOU WOULD USE THE WORSHIP MUSIC TO TRULY HELP US TO WORSHIP YOU. AND THEN BE WITH PASTOR DAVID AS HE ENCOURAGES US TO PRAY MORE. LORD, WE KNOW THAT YOU HEAR OUR PRAYERS, AND, LORD, MANY OF OUR STUDENTS MAYBE HAVE SPECIAL PRAYER NEEDS. MAYBE OUR FACULTY, MAYBE OUR FRIENDS, MAYBE SOME OF YOU THAT ARE WATCHING MY VIDEO, WATCHING BY TELEVISION, OR WATCHING LIVE AS WE STREAM THIS, YOU HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS. AND RIGHT NOW I WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO PRAY FOR YOU. GOD, YOU KNOW THE NEEDS OF EVERY ONE OF US, AND, LORD, I COME TO YOU RIGHT NOW, ASKING YOU, LORD, TO WORK AND HELP AND ENCOURAGE THOSE WHO HAVE A SPECIAL NEED IN THEIR LIFE RIGHT NOW. WE PRAY THIS IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU. ♪ [ MUSIC ] ♪
