LIVE - MiniWorkStation MS-01 - Mini Server? Mini PC? - Super Performance Mini PC

[Music] Hello everybody welcome into my latest live broadcast today what's today it's the 12th of January it's Friday it's 2024 welcome in everybody thank you for joining me I see a bunch of uh folks already eagerly anticipating the start of the video by being in the chat room and already speaking with each other there in our community which is so so cool I love to see that and already a few super chats have come in uh I'm going to talk about that in just a minute but I want to tell you what we're doing today first coming up we've got the review of the mic um minis forum it's the ms01 and this is a little mini workstation every single time I think there's nothing exciting coming out that I know of and I think oh you know I'll be able to come up with some of my own content there's not much new coming out to review I get blindsided with a product that didn't even know what coming out and that happened here with the minium mini workstation minis Forum did some research on this I've talked a lot about the difference between enthusiasts and hobbyists and professionals and where you don't see a lot of hobbyists enthusiasts making videos about is you know things like servers and workstations some people think a workstation is just a regular pc it isn't um not technically so if we well we could call any PC a workstation in the business World a workstation is a higher end what you might consider an Enthusiast build minus all the RGB and nonsense you know the liquid cooling uh I have seen many work um I have seen fullsize workstations with liquid cooling that are custom built but that's pretty rare but essentially you've got servers and what connects to the servers are the workstations and the workstations are what's getting the work done Architects are drawing up plans for a building and car designers are designing an engine or what automobile uh they use workstations on oil rigs out in the ocean as they map the ocean floor looking for places to drill for oil some pretty high-intensity stuff so this stuff is really well equipped compared to your average consumer stuff it's also built to a higher standard so Min form when they were coming up with this concept they wanted to go to the professionals not to the enthusiasts and to ask them what are some features that you know you would like to see we're thinking about doing this and who did they ask but our good friend Patrick Kennedy over at serve the home now as a result of that serve the home got the first unit and they did the first review of this and after my review if you'd like to see more of a business uh angled review be sure and check out serve the home's video review of this unit now be warned Patrick doesn't usually make videos as long as that one is and he's talking very quickly to get through it and he fires a lot of information at you Non-Stop and it's just chalk full of good info I can't recommend it enough I'll put a I've got a link to uh serve the homes video down below and then what I want to do today is take more of an end user approach to it more practical approach to how we might use something like this um well it's not designed to be a gaming computer it could be be way Overkill but uh that's what we're in for today I'm excited to take a look at it and introduce you to some new technologies we've never shown here on the channel because they server grade technology so stick in there stick around we're going to talk about that hello everyone in the chat hello to all my members hello to new viewers and let's see we have some super chats that have already come in I see guess I better go over here Douglas Belle with a $2 Super Chat says it's so nice to be here on this great Friday but we're glad to have you here Douglas thank you for your Super Chat 3D everything with a $20 Super Chat said this ms01 looks impressive so I'm watching this right on yeah I think you're going to leave impressed and maybe even learn a little something new about the other side the business side of think planet cryos with $5 in Super Chat said I heard this is the place to be so I've been here since 2016 hello Gary and all has it been since 2016 yeah it's not that long stick around kid uh let's see Ben L with a two pound contribution says hello everyone from Scotland there's planet cryos again another Super Chat this time for $10 hello Carrie I'm now editing the sandis professional Pro G40 solid state drive external SSD it might be up tomorrow it's a nice little unit I did get 3100 megabytes per second and 2800 megabytes per second through Thunderbolt 3 of course and about 1,50 1,25 reads and writes for USBC very good well I look forward to seeing your review and another great channel to check out of course this our good friend Planet cryos he's got some builds and reviews on his channel does a great job and uh be sure and give him a like And subscribe if you're looking for more content after today's video be sure and check his channel out you like my videos I think you'll 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week also I have got a bunch more mini PCS actually have four more mini PCS to review now so far every Mini PC I've reviewed has been built for a home user or small business universally some of them focus on gaming some of them Focus on just lowc cost simple needs to get online get email get on the web watch YouTube videos or stream video to your TV things simple things like that some of them have been more higher end what I would refer to as a workstation not truly a workstation business class machine something that's very powerful in all ways but the graphics so that would be for business use right we got to write up invoices take inventory asset controls um accounting taxes ordering shipping customer databases communication etc etc etc etc so this one falls into a category we've never covered here and likely won't be covering on a regular basis the closest I've come to like business level machines would probably be that the red Ripper builds and a lot of people that buy those will use them for just over-the-top gaming PCs which in my opinion is a big waste of money uh aside from that having a real server the closest we got to that was recently when uh serve the home once again serve the home comes in the picture they had shipped a server and it wasn't packed properly it arrived damaged I offered to fix it we still have that server here and it's all functional and it's a crazy amount of power just insane amount of storage power and half a terabyte of uh ECC Ram in that thing which is makes my head explode um again you could use it for gaming but kind of like using a gun and a knife fight it's a little Overkill and so now the very first ever mini workstation I don't think another one exists like this I think min's Forum has introduced this concept and uh I'm excited to take a look at it and show you some of the Enterprise technologies that are everyday use for folks in it and professional it in Corporate America that you guys may have never even seen or heard of Dwayne Blackwelder renews membership now he's a member for 14 months right on Dwayne thank you he says hello to everyone and Nick poverman with a $10 Super Chat says the min looks amazing the io the input output on it is impressive oh the io on this is a whole another thing you could turn this into a a mini router mini firewall it would be way overkill for that but it has the ports for it now for full disclosure I haven't paid anything for this mini swarm sent it to me uh along with a couple of drives and an HDMI headless unit here which we'll talk about what that's for in exchange for me to do an honest review I am not told what to say or what not to say that's the relationship I have with the folks at minis they great people I love working with them uh your contributions and your memberships are what's getting things paid for and then when companies like minis will send us product to review well that that's our content for one day so here we go this is the first time I am opening this know I take it back I think I opened it to take some pictures for the thumbnail if I'm not mistaken so I believe believe this was wrapped in plastic and we just threw that out so I don't think you need that detail though do you we've got a little IND uh card here it says a slow boot time may be caused by an unexpected reboot to bios reset Ram replacement or solid state drive replacement in general the boot time will resume after one normal boot so there just just giving you a heads up there before you file a support claim support ticket now let me walk this up over to the camera and we'll talk about that IO looking at the front of the unit we've got two USB 2s and a USB 3 with our 3.5 MIM audio jack which could be for microphone headphones or a headset which of course contains both we've got our power button looking on the left and on the right there's nothing right just PL stuff lot of ventilation top and bottom lots of ventilation that's going to be important these things will run pretty warm because they're very powerful and uh on the back this is what we're talking about here we have two uh these are 10 gig SFP plus ports I believe that's what they are and then two two and a half gig land ports next to two USB 4S there's only one video output here that's the HDMI but these USB 4S you can put these out to display port so you could have a total of three monitors using the two USB 4S and that HDMI you've got your two more uh USB 3s and your Barrel Jack power connector there now I'm just going off the top of my head on these specs we'll take a look at uh at the minis Forum site that we'll get into more detail this is where where you can insert a card like for well a GPU for one it would have to be pretty pretty small just a one one slot card will fit in there and it' have to be pretty low profile uh there's other kinds of cards uh that that can fit in here as well once again Patrick over at served the home they tested a over a dozen different cards to tell you what worked what didn't work um none of which would have any use for me personally but in a business environment I could certainly see where somebody might want to do that uh we go back to the box and inside we have another box and this box contains we have some screws we have a European power cable think I think that's a European power cable which of course we can't use here in America but they did in include a regular PC power cable for us we've got a small or short HDMI cable we've got a standoff two standoffs for use with something I don't know yet got another small box in the box that was in the box that would shipped to me in a box and what does this have this has a plate okay well I guess we'll have to see in the documentation what that I have no idea um let's go and open the other half so that contains our power brick now this is a 180 watt power brick all right so bear that in mind if you're thinking about putting a graphics card in here you're not going to be able to get a very powerful graphics card in there at just 180 Watts you might need to get like a 300 watt if you can find a graphics card that's low profile that'll fit yeah it says 179.99 Watts it's a 19 volt these 19 volt uh Power brakes are pretty common in these mini PCS and laptops that are fairly powerful I'll show you the back of it now do bear in mind minis form does not make the power bricks so that doesn't say Min swarm anywhere on it and what I would do because these are so common if you plug one of these into the wrong device and it over volts it or kills it your device is just gone so just because the plug fits doesn't mean you have the right power brick so well we know this is the right power brick because I just took it out of the box this is a good time to label this as the minis Forum ms01 power brick so if the two get separated and you find this you don't go gee I wonder which of my computers this goes to or you could have devices laptops or other like floor lamps and such that might use something very similar to this and uh you don't want to play trial and error with these because if you get to the error side of things you will likely fry the thing you're plugging it into and maybe even fry the power brick itself it's no joke so usually what I'll do if I want to go fancy I'll get a label maker but Sharpie the people who make the indelible markers they make a silver marker which is ideal for writing on items that are dark in color and I'll just write ms-01 right on that adapter do it now I've got a lot of mini PCS laying around here and the last thing I want to do is mix these things up and then end up toasting something that'll be a stupid reason to break something and I don't need this power adapter I or power cable I need this one so this one can go in here and I will figure out what this other little box is for here soon so let's put this in here and put this in here try and clear up some of my bench space now for me as a content creator I can tell you that when I get the gpus the the high-end Nvidia or AMD gpus they are generally terrible at rendering my videos they are worse and when I mean worse I mean they take a very long time to render my content so to give you an example I just pieced together the mini SLA ITX build which was four different build videos one after the other over four different days and that came out I edited out sort of the beginnings and endings of all the you know part two part three part four so that they would sort of align together uh and took out some like the introductions and things so it just is a continual build with some discussion here and there with the audience that's nine hours upscaled to 4K so as you could imagine rendering that is going to take some time so on the machine in back I have a 13500 that I built here on camera it's an i5 13500 it rendered that video out in about 4 and a half hours which means it took 30 seconds to render every minute of video if I tried that on the Nvidia card or an AMD radon it'll take about 2 minutes for every one minute of video so that would take about three times longer to process so when you're using Intel's integrated Graphics what it's coming with is something called Intel quick sync and if your video rendering software supports that woo things move quick so be this unit here has a 13 900h that's the mobile version of the 13th uh gen Flagship processor which also has those same integrated Graphics from Intel and I imagine this would make an amazing video editor because it's a fraction of the size of the NZXT tower that I built in and in theory it should be a wonderful editing machine now we talk about what's in this what makes this a workstation let's go over to Min forum's website and see how they describe it now I've got the link to the mini website for this product in our video notes U thank you to Mara for putting all the video notes and making the thumbnail for today's video uh let's see let's go to our here it is all right so this doesn't even start shipping until next week so we have an early review of this now you'll see they have they had two different versions they had a 12 900h version and the 13 900h both are core I9 intels one's a 12th gen one's a 13th gen they sell it barebone or the license you obviously have to provide your own operating system license and um they have it here with 32 gigs of RAM and one tbte of storage and for that that will include the operating system Windows 11 you'll see that that total is $829 now when they it's supposed to be 1,029 they're taking 200 bucks off when this was available it was much cheaper um go a generation behind it was a heck of a value even though you're not getting the fastest it's nothing to shake a stick at but looks like the 13900 is the only one that's available now which maybe this 12900 is just out of stock I don't know what's happening with that but you can save a little money are looking at the 12900 so this video they put on their website this is serve the homes video right here Pinnacle of Min PC servers and that's the serve the home website there that's pretty nice that they did so yeah 10 gigabit Ethernet uh pcie and nbme the ms01 features a high performance Intel 13th gen I9 CPU offering excellent expandability with support for up to 24 terabytes of SSD storage it's equipped with four Network ports enabling efficient data transfer the efficient cooling design ensures Optical Optimal Performance meeting the needs of professional users and Fields such as engineering design and programming it's got the Intel VPR vro is pretty much used for Remote Management so if you're working at a help desk and you needed to log into any of the employees workstations even to a bios level with the special vpro tools you're able to do uh as we look at the details we've got uh onboard x710 10 gbit dual ethernet ports dual 2.5 gig ethernet ports dual USB 4 with 20 gig Thunderbolt ethernet and one standard uh pcie interface and three m.2 slots that supports raid zero or Raid one I'm surprised I don't see raid five not exactly sure how raid one works with raid one and raid well raid one would require two drives and only two drives raid zero would attach all the Drives together as one big drive with no redundancy so if either of any of the three drives fails your entire system's done so you have to replace the bad drive and completely restore without any redundancy it's no different than having one drive and that one drive crashing if you have three drives in a r zero uh let's see msl1 is equipped with the highend Intel 49 139h and the core 91 12900 H it provides 14 cores which is six performance cores and eight efficiency cores with 20 threads along with 24 Megs of L3 cache the maximum clock speeds reached is 5.4 on the 13900 and 5 GTs on the 12900 it features integrated Graphics it's the Intel Iris XE with a maximum frequency of 1.5 GHz and 1.45 GHz 1.5 on the 13900 1.45 on the 12900 it delivers exceptional performance for a smooth and responsive experience yeah um all this seems accurate it's capable of a high-speed Network experience okay we've already kind of talked about that so the 10 gigabit per second SFP Plus network ports it has two of those 2.5 gig per second rg45 two of those the USB ports it has enables transfer speeds up to 40 gigabits per second that's going to be using the USB 4 additionally it's capable of building a 20 gbit per second ethernet network using usb4 Thunderbolt Bridge technology V proo is uh Hardware level protection reduces security risks between virtual machines it supports Hardware acceleration such as device virtualization for gpus and sound cards allowing for more efficient processing of graphics and audio tasks well I don't know anything about that I know about it from a support perspective a little bit more about that PCI slot it is a genfor slot by 16 we've got three m.2 slots it also supports u.2 nvme now this is something we've not talked about here um and that's u.2 back when I was making videos for new EG motherboards were coming and you might still have a board if it's a few years old that had a funky connector next to your SATA ports and that was your u.2 and it never really caught on on the consumer side it is a way of putting in a basically an envyme drive with a different interface and a different enclosure and where it's different is it allows for a lot more power than the m.2 interface allows it allows for much more space meaning your drive capacities can be bigger well here let me just show you if you take a look over uh we we'll go to eBay and just do a search for u.2 drives um well a lot of servers will use uh SAS drives these u.2 drives here let me show you are available in very large capacity now at first glance it looks like a regular 2 and 1/2 in seta oh but no you could see this one's 16 terabytes this one's 3.72 terabytes and it's put into effectively the same 2 and 1/2 inch Drive case but it has a completely different connector on the end and you'll see these are pretty spendy you're looking at about 100 bucks per terabyte now if you are Google or Amazon or Facebook or any large large uh Enterprise company that's dealing with a lot of data throughputs and I mean a lot of data well it wouldn't be uncommon for a company to have hundreds if not thousands of these in their server farms and um I've got one here I can show you back to one so this is what I'm trying to say a lot of times you know I see the home users get excited about stuff that you don't see me get excited about and that's because we've had that stuff on the Enterprise side for a while so a couple of things uh one we'll start here this is a sample u.2 drive this right here is a standard SATA drive I want to show you the difference between them if you if you look here this is a standard SATA drive take a look how that's basically two connectors right there's two separate connectors on a SATA drive this and you'll see they're the same size right however if you were to accidentally buy a u.2 drive your seta plugs aren't going to go onto this connect Conor which is if my camera will focus one big connector looks pretty close it's located more or less in the same spot but they are despite looking quite similar with SATA on top u.2 below very very different for example this is a low power device these SATA drives that you guys use in your home computers they're low power these on the other hand these require a lot more power because they're capable of envme speeds versus uh this which is only SATA speeds all right so we can get nvme speeds and get larger capacity because we have so much more room to put a bigger circuit board with more chips on it we can have larger amounts of storage and there's a way to do this which I will show you here and then also something I've never shown on the channel before we talk about the envyme drives being 2280 22 is how many millimeters wide the drive is 80 is how many millimeters long the drive is well there's also 2242 2260 and 2210 now I've never in my life seen a 110 that would mean that it's like an mvme drive that's extra long elongated but Min form sent us one so they want us to demonstrate for you how we can use all three of these at the same time we can use the u.2 the 110 drive and the 2280 all at the same time because this has three m.2 slots so here is what this 110 Drive looks like so compared to a regular nvme that you're probably quite familiar with fact I can just stack one top of the that extra bit that's 80 millimeters that's 110 millim right other than that it's the same now you're probably asking yourself how is it possible if there's three m.2 slots these are m.2 but this is u.2 so how does that work they've included an adapter and the adapter is a little tray that sits on and then it gives you at the bottom of the tray the little m.2 connector and you'll see we'll put this all together during this video and they'll all sit side by side now of course you don't have to do that you can use any one of the three or any two of the three we're going to use all three of the three just to show you what it's capable of now I've never opened this but I know how to open it because I watched serve the homes video and if you look right down here there's this tab sticking out with arrows on it if we pull uh push down I guess it's like a little button then it should just might have to do this on the desk so I don't drop it on the floor but that should release the inside from the cover yeah and so it does no screwdriver needed you're going to find a lot of toolless design in Enterprise stuff because the it Department's going to be very busy they need to get in and out there's constant work that has to be done every single day because of the scale just the amount of computers and storage they have something's failing something needs Rec configuring and so for the most part the stuff is designed to get in and get out quick here's what the inside looks like now underneath this uh backwards underneath this fan that's where your Ram's going to go this big block that's going to have our uh CPU under it it's why is it got it's kind of like a nice foamy velvety cover on there interesting I guess that's to keep the noise levels down there's our pcie slot and then what about our storage well we're going to flip it around this way and on the back side here you're going to see another cooling fan and then right down here m.2 m.2 and m.2 and there's our little WiFi card right there that we can swap out easy peasy to get to so in order to put m.2 drives in this or to put that uh u.2 Drive in we're going to have to take this fan off of here likewise in order to put Ram into this well this already has Ram in it but we're going to take this Ram out we've got to remove these three screws right here in order to take this off so again I I want to say thanks again over to Patrick and serve the home because he showed all this and now I don't have to discover it on my my own it's kind of like cheating I admit one of the reasons you'll see I avoid reading directions or instructions is because I like to figure things out on my own it kind of comes from my gaming days right I don't want somebody to tell me the way to get through the next level I want to figure it out that's the fun of the game right I don't want somebody sitting next to me in the movies telling me who done it ruins the movie but in this case because this is so much over my head um and uh Patrick's a friend of mine I thought first of all I'm going to support my friend and watch what he's doing but secondly uh as soon as he started I'm like oh I didn't know this oh I didn't know that so you know I was glued to the screen trying to remember some of the things he's doing so that when I do my video well I'm not going to just parrot what he's done I'm going to do it my way but at least I know some of these little things like opening the cover and taking which parts have to come off Etc and he pointed out something I also did not know was an aware of and that is because the u.2 drives require more power and because this is plugging into one of our existing M do2s there is a switch on here fact let's do this now and I can show you and the switch is a voltage switch so that if you're going to use that last m.2 for u.2 drives you've got to boost the voltage on it but if you boost the voltage on it and you put a regular envme Drive in there you will likely toast the envme drive you'll kill it with you'll electrocute it effect effectively so that's an important thing to know I think so let's see we've got three screws here got one here I've got one here and I've got one here when we lift this up you'll see we've got a little pigtail for the fan that we can completely remove which I think I will do so I can carry this over so you guys can see it now you're going to get a much better look at the bottom of this and you should be much better able to see our 3m. tws see this switch right here what's interesting is you do have a little label it says u.2 or m.2 and I agree with Patrick that that label should probably be up up here or maybe etched in because if you've got a drive covering that up you won't see it hey what's this switch do you don't want to be doing that so we're going to go ahead and put the m.2 drive in or I'm sorry we're going to we're going to put our 110 millim drive in and you can see that the the supports here these are your standard 2280 lengths and down here these are the 110 lengths so all three of these will support a 110 millimeter length nvme drive if you want to put one in this is a very long heat sink they've got on the pre-installed envme drive but that's just a standard 2280 as you can see the screw goes down here instead of down here and I guess that's what those other little two standoffs were for remember when I looked in the Box those would go in each of of these spots here for the m.2 drives now if we want to use u.2 we have to use this first or last depending on your perspective this slot right here is the only one that we can use the m.2 uh the u.2 on on this one so when we move that switch over to u.2 it's only affecting the voltage to this 1 m.2 the others you're okay with regular nvme drives it only changes the voltage on that last one and because the drive is so big I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to understand why it's the last one you see they've got a spot here to optionally place this and if we were to place that in it would effectively go right about there and there's no room for this to go anywhere else it's the only place it could possibly go so to do that we need to have an adapter so let's take a look I'm guessing that plate remember when I was in here I said what's this plate I'm guessing that was the adapter because I didn't take it out of the package um didn't see any connector on it but let's just take another gander OKO wants to know what chipset this board is running on uh good question give me just a minute here open this up take another look at this oh yeah this is it it's exactly okay so the way that this works I call this a plate yeah it helps when you take it out of the bag and actually look at it this is an adapter and you'll see it's got the u.2 connector here and then it converts it to m.2 up here so we're going to take our drive and we can just slide that in looks like there's a little cover on it there is a little cover on here that has to come off it's like a little dust cover that there now we should be able to just slide that in and on the back side of this you know those included screws and I didn't know what those were for there to hold this drive into this adapter see it's all coming together so let me go and grab those screws and secure this so there's our two standoffs and there's our four screws I guess I should have left all that stuff out of the box they don't give us anything we don't need there's really nothing spare that box is aside from the power cord it's empty now so let's cover this back up just leave that up there so you know what we're working on and I'll put the box down here now uh to secure this in place guess we could probably go with the top down camera probably be ideal for this today I don't have camera girl here today so we got to go with the camera girl replacement here replaced by technology ain't it the same old story sorry we got to let you go no I'm kidding she's allowed to have a day off guess all right so let get that hooked up and turn this on I don't know it for me personally I like to see how these people make videos you know you're getting a behind the scenes look by doing it live and also seeing some of the challenges that's uh that I face that's very common for creators to face and that's if we go here to closeup camera right there add on there we go like it when a plan comes together all right so now here's our .2 Drive these are the bags of screws here standoffs here the standoffs will be used and this gold circles there that's where those will go if you're going to populate those with 2280 nbme drives so let's take this off here get these screws out the bag H Uncle car's old eyes got to have my glaces coryan said that's a nice home lab server put Linux in there and run a bunch of Docker containers you certainly can absolutely it'd be very ideal for that sort of thing and not take a up a bunch of room there we go now before I change anything on the system I'm quite curious how they shipped it to me say I've never turned this on before so let me put the fan back on it here and of course you can see how that's going to go on we've got the pigtail here that it's going to wire up to everything looks backwards to me right so bear with me for a second as I get my orientation it's backwards is it this's been left remember how I just took this off uh let's see we do have these posts sticking up that should indicate to us where this is going probably should have paid more attention when I took it off I feel like feel like it goes on like this yeah and that screw right there that holds this fan this fan screw right here or the piece that this place that holds this down is also holding down our uh Wi-Fi card here the Wi-Fi card is [Music] uh I can't read it so we will find out when we turn it on we can go into device manager and we can take a look at all these specifications every time I rotate this I I lose the orientation this is am so bear with me for just one second this is a a uni unque design go on like that I'm going to go on like that oh yeah I said that piece there is the one that goes to the that holds down our Wi-Fi card and holds this piece down at the same time so doing this so it's underneath this C camera is making me reach all the way across this bench which is making it very difficult for me so I'm going to go back to camera one I do try to give you guys a good view but at the same time when it hinders my ability to work kind of comes across like can't put a screw in which you know in that circumstance I can't quite frankly reaching too far so let's move this aside we'll come back to this a little bit later first I want to put this back together so we can turn it on okay so um glasses let me bring this over here where I can reach it that should make my life so much easier hey what do you know super easy and then let's go ahead and secure the fan back down so we can fire this bad way up and see how it ships to us so for right now because there is an envme Drive currently in that last slot I definitely want to move that switch back over to m.2 because that would not be a good start to our review uh I had moved it because I was thinking I was going to replace it but I want to turn it on first before I do anything else just to see how it comes and then after we've kind of gone through the device manager and kind of looked it over then I'll shut it back down and we'll do the uh upgrade if you will that probably makes more sense also if you didn't notice there are Coss batteries right there so when that day comes that you got to replace the battery it'll be super easy to get to I was just on eBay having to buy uh the seos batteries that have the pigtails on them it's not just a bare battery it has a wires connected to it with a pigtail on the end screws made of aluminum the magnet is not sticking good news is I found them on eBay the seos batteries with the wires already on them two for $10 pretty inexpensive however I they're probably going to take a couple weeks to to arrive so prob want to order them and have them in inventory before you need them you have a long shelf life okay so let's just fire this bad boy up again we want to make sure that switch double check it triple check it make sure that switch is going to be in the m.2 or ut2 position depending on what you've installed on that one slot right there that's the only slot that affects and that's the one they're using out of the box all right so m.2 it is oh up front here now that we've got the cover off of it you'll notice this on anything like mini PCS and even some laptops these are what Wi-Fi antennas look like these days you see these wires one wire comes out and gets soldered on for this pad both sides one there one there that's what the end of your Wi-Fi antenna looks like so do be careful with those they do break off pretty easily it's a thin wire it's easy to solder back on but best to not knock come off to begin with and then also if you look at the front of this with the face plate off of it here there's our power button so we shouldn't have any problem turning that on and the sides have a little track and of course now the back its face plate stays on unless you want to pull these tabs back and then you can move this rear face plate if you wanted to do that for some reason see here plug this in right here I'm going to leave the cover off because like I said we're going to do some more work to this and uh we'll leave the two drives out we'll do that after we boot up this piece here I want to talk about this for just a second before we go much further this may also be a piece you've never seen or heard of before and this you notice has an HDMI plug on one side and then nothing what the heck does that do this pretends like you have a monitor plugged in and turned on have you ever turned on a computer with a monitor turned off or not plugged in and then after the computer boots then you turn the monitor on and your resolution is like real basic and that's because the system didn't sense your monitor it boot up and went to just the most basic settings so you either have to leave a monitor on so that the resolution will be set or you have to emulate having a monitor plugged in and set the resolution on the ghost monitor sort of like a virtual Monitor and this way you don't need a monitor on a computer that you're accessing remotely we just have this little headless unit here and uh in the workplace environment you know you could have these all stacked up with different labels different names so each one then would require a monitor so it makes more sense to access them remotely from you know what could be a help desk or a support desk situation it could be in a completely different building and with the headless display here it thinks it's plugged into a monitor and when you log in you're going to get proper resolution that A New Concept anybody ever heard of that before uh okay I need a keyboard and a mouse and uh what else HDMI so this uses a standard PC power cable which I have plenty of I like to see standards that's good and our HDMI cable only have one video output port on here again if we wanted to plug in up to two more monitors we'd want to use those usb4 get a cable that converts USB 4 to display port and then from there out to a monitor and I believe that'll support uh 4K at 60 HZ on three monitors simultaneously all right the earlier question Matt says the monitor is Wi-Fi no there would be no monitor this emulates it pretends and tricks the computer into thinking it has a monitor attached when there is no monitor period it's not that there's a monitor via Wi-Fi there is no monitor so for example when you go to google.com and it brings up that website or if you've ever logged into your router or if you have a NZ and you log into the there's no monitors on there it's your monitor you're using so it enables you when you remote in to maintain a resolution on this machine at what you want versus having it default to some really low resolution or everything's big and blocky and it won't let you change it because you don't have a supported monitor to go to a higher resolution so in this case this emulates it pretends there tricks the computer into thinking you have a monitor plugged in and allows for those higher resolutions to be set so that when you access it remotely you get that resolution on your screen from where you're accessing it from all right uh let's see Thomas Mt says is the u.2 bigger or faster uh it won't be faster it'll be bigger now the the one we have here is uh let's see I didn't even pay attention to the size this is a 960 gig or a one terabyte but they make these up to 32 terabytes to the best of my knowledge and then our 110 drive again the bigger the the devices the more chips you can put on it and therefore the larger potential that doesn't mean that when the company sends me the product for review that they're going to be sending me the most expensive options right we're just showing what's possible so we've got a 1 tbte drive here and then this is an Intel p451 series 1.2 terabyte drive here but these are lower voltage these are higher voltage okay but speed wise they should be about the same I don't think anything here is going to be uh you know we're not re let me be clear we're not reviewing u.2 drives and envyme drives so we're not interested in how fast or what capacity we're we're reviewing this and what it's possible what it's capable of and then what you can do with it if you buy one you want to put those bigger faster drives in you can't so this is just for demonstration purposes to show you what's possible okay so let me I guess we can turn this on now right and oh we're going to look up what the chipset was on this somebody in chat already answered that question I see Davis Parson's joining us there's Michael Dayne he's the man joining us in the chat maybe I'll just Google it see what chipset on Min Forum ms01 thought it was going to talk to me so it says it supports up to 64 gigs of RAM but that's not right it'll support 90 96 gigs of ram in fact we'll try that we'll try putting two sticks of 48 gigs each of ddr5 in here and it should recognize a total capacity of 96 gigs of RAM that'll set you back about $300 for two sticks of 48 gigs each the biggest ddr4 modules whether they're laptop modules or desktop modules is uh 32 gigs so if you only have two slots you can only have two sticks of 32 that means your maximum is 64 ddr5 goes to 48 per module so if you go 48 and you have two slots total 96 now I've never used 48 gig modules before so that'll be a first for us coming up a little bit later in today's video Nick poverman mens the mentions that the u.2 uh drives handle more users at a time without bottlenecking appreciate that info that's all out of my experience my it's out of my wheelhouse so I appreciate that info um but yes if you're running a server multiple people all trying to access something at the same time you definitely want your IO to be able to multitask um hey there's mattz Olaf joining us from Sweden Paul O'Brien says hello joining us from Ireland um I'll tell you what since Mara is in the chat room I'll have her look up what chipset this is so I can boot this up and we can move forward here because I'm not sure and I might once we've got it booted up I might be able to uh look in the device manager and see yet Mark gains just sent $24.3 via Paypal Mark joins us from Northern Ireland thank you Mark thank you for your continued support I really appreciate it okay so anticipation let's go over here let's turn on my HDMI input let's put me in the corner okay smoke test turn it on got a blue light up front technically I've got this upside down really should go this way van is spinning but I just keep it vertical and both sides can breathe it's whisper quiet like I aside from the blue light I have no idea that it's on okay here we go with our outof box experience our first time setup with Windows 11 going to click yes yes yes skip don't have internet continue with limited setup accept the license agreement put in the username of user next password blank so we go right into our desktop turn off all the Telemetry here except for location settings so our date and time kept up for us and finalizes our install okay so now we're just GNA wait for this process to complete if you're a regular viewer of this channel you've seen this countless times however with the power and performance of this system iag shouldn't take very long at all Ben lar says 96 gigs of RAM Windows 11 runs fine on 16 gigs well if all you use is Windows 11 and that's probably all you're going to need but if you're using any AutoCAD or serious resource intensive application software that people would use in an Enterprise environment that extra Ram can really make a a dent and the performance it can not a dent in a bad way but it can boost your performance especially as I mentioned like when I edit videos having that extra Ram is probably way more than I need but that also means that while a video is rendering I could probably go and surf the web and do other things and not even notice that the machine's rendering a video it could make in theory it could make that big of a difference where you're multitasking don't even realize it so just know it's there it may not be for you but it's possible right now we're going to verify that again a little bit later if we go into our device manager I'm kind of curious of a few things uh do we get Windows 11 home or Pro I would assume Pro now minis Forum did tell me that all their machines that they're selling from this point forward are all going to contain Windows 11 home period end of story I thought maybe since this is a business class workstation that it should have Pro on it it does not so bear that in mind if you're going to use it in a business environment need to log into servers if you need those business features we want Pro on the other hand uh if this is a home lab type situation then probably home is fine now they've included 32 gigs of ram in this review unit here again that's two sticks of 16 ddr5 and if we go to our device manager we can take a look at what our network adapters are so got to keep in mind we've got Wi-Fi Bluetooth and two ethernet and two SFP plus ports so that is a lot of Wi-Fi it's a lot of uh internet IO so you'll see we've got the um the Intel i225 V which is sort of your standard um ethernet controller you find in a lot of consumer based stuff then you got your 225 LM that's more of the business side of things here we've got the SFP ports here the x70 is that what it says x710 I can't see it from this far away those are going to be our SFP ports there yeah x710 and then we've got an RZ 616 Wi-Fi 6E uh that's not Intel okay well that's fine you just think they would have gone all Intel it all works the same so uh with regards to the chipset let's see what can we do here let me plug it into the internet and go for some updates guess I need to come at it the other side matter either one of those will work fine for our purposes I need to wait for that little Globe down in the bottom right to look like a little monitor that'll happen just right now as it uh gets an IP address automatically from router set up with drives me crazy so let's do the Intel driver assistant let's download that that's going to give us a bunch of information about this mini mini station it's uh a nice alternative to CPUs Z well at the same time also check that we have the latest version of drivers for anything Intel related whether it's ethernet video uh chipset Etc decline that one yes here close this let that install and we should have some information here soon this analyze our system here tell us what we've got that was quick so we do have a new video driver available so we'll go ahead and download if we scroll down we're going to get a bunch of details here so bios information motherboard information processor Graphics networking memory storage that's chip said either huh Peter VZ now a member for 7 months says hello Carrie in chat hey Peter thank you for continuing your membership with us this is all the information on the processor memory that download Ben L says is there a support assistant for ryzen no no there isn't you would just use um amd's adrenaline software which is more like chipset driver software but uh AMD does not offer that that's an Intel only thing Jim wants to know a bit Locker encryption is enabled so with Windows 11 home there is a default to enable encryption and if you use the rofus the free Rufus download you can make your own Windows 11 bootable USB flash drive installation media rather than than using Microsoft's tool in fact you would still use the Microsoft download tool and download the iso image then grab rofus and make your bootable USB with that ISO image and the minute you go to start rofus says wait a minute this ISO image is an ISO of Windows 11 would you like to turn off the requirement of you know needing a network you know so you don't have to do the shift F10 thing would you like to disable the automatic encryption and you can check those boxes and then when it makes your uh installation media for Windows 11 it will have those features disabled by default just so you know but if we go down here to search and we can type in encryption data encryption here um it's core isolation that's not what I want encryption dopt offline files not getting anywhere with this stuff uh let's just try bit Locker manage bit Locker nothing's clicking for me might have something open in the background I don't see I want to get rid of that little cartoon thing there so I type in search permissions history settings turn that off that really that thing down there annoys me so we'll turn that off okay it's not going to be in carry ah it's bringing up a website yeah that just brings up a website because bit Locker isn't really included with Windows 10 home but it's an encryption bit different they'll call it bit locker but it's it's encryption so it should have been type encryption oh that's where I was before where is that setting this was introduced this default turning on this encryption on Windows 10 uh Windows 11 home on the last big um 22 H2 I think is when they introduced that let me cheat it up how to turn off encryption Windows 11 home search for device encryption settings device [Music] cription setting where the heck is it seeing any options it's in Disk Management I guess that makes sense let's go to dis manage um I I've seen this before I've only seen it once before oyin said I had to turn off device encryption before I could back up my drive with aonis yeah absolutely poverman says go to the C drive and right click then what security I I've done this but I remember there was a a slider that turning the encryption on and we can install this this finished where's my delay here is this please restart your PC now to continue installing updates oh I think there was some updates going on in the background okay that's fine we'll let that do what it needs to do the setup of a new computer you know you need to give yourself a little bit of time there uh I don't deal with encryption on Windows 11 home because I used Rufus to make my windows 11 boot media and again all you do is you download your ISO image as you normally would from Microsoft using the Windows media creation tool but just tell it you want want the iso image save the iso image on your hard drive go to get rofus start rofus point it to the ISO file you just downloaded point it to what flash drive you've plugged in that you want it to write to to make bootable and as soon as you hit the right button to start the options will come up there's four different options and I select two of them one is to not require a network and the other one is to disable the encryption so when you see me installing Windows 11 it's already set that way by default and it doesn't take any more time to burn the image you know what I mean to make it Nick bman says if I right Mouse click this C drive and file explorer all right well we'll go up to file explorer here right click you'll see manage bit Locker so you shouldn't see that option in Windows 11 home because Windows 11 home doesn't come with bit Locker it does have an encryption but it's other places are calling it bit Locker micros soft is calling an encryption which is different from bit Locker so it's what I have seen my personal experience with this because there was a section that said um um encryption on or off it didn't say bit Locker on or off that that was a Windows Pro thing oh you want me to show more options okay good point see if what's in there it's not and nor should it be like I said Windows 11 doesn't come with bit Locker it's it's an encryption and the encryption is turned on by default and it's third party like acronis and others are going to say you've got encryption turned on they might say you've got bed Locker turned on instruct you to turn it off and as I recall it was very easy it was just a little slider and I'm sure I had to do it for the same reason where I couldn't clone the drive with that turned on so if we go to again I I typed encryption data encryption maybe it is under is it under core isolation no that's memory Integrity access can't I found it it's also possible that it wasn't installed on here because I remember when I looked for it it was really easy to find I didn't struggle so um Mara says she's not finding any official discussion of the chipet or motherboard now maybe I can install that video it's better all right we'll let that install and then we'll have some more Windows updates to install then we can do our upgrades with regards to chipset we'll have to look into that Jim kj3 said I was surprised when I looked at my drive on my laptop using dis management and the word encrypted showed up on the C partition yeah it'll say encryp it's not bit Locker it's something different you'll have to Google it to learn more about it but but it will install with encryption turned on by default unless as I mentioned you use Rufus to make your own uh or you do it by hand but Rufus does it for you to make your own Windows media install or you can just go in uh as Jim mention if you're running Windows 11 home this is a Windows 11 home issue can turn that off if it's um it's one of those things that it can make like Imaging the drive or accessing the drive outside of the computer difficult so let's say that the computer fails on you and you want your data off of the off the drive you won't be able to read it so again this is why backups are useful but if you're doing like a clone where you're outside of the operating system booted from an acronis rescue it cannot read the drive it's encrypted so you got to it the chronis will tell you you've got to turn that encryption off as long as you maintain regular backups and you're not cloning the drive you can safely leave the encryption on it's there for your security but much like things for your security and people often lock themselves out of their own computers so you decide what's right for you Gary Tatum said the data encryption option was on the same page as core isolation and evidently it was not installed on this machine all right thank you Gary I appreciate that information I know it was easy to find when I went looking for it uh when I was cloning with the cronis that told me to disable it and I'm like shouldn't be anything on there it's Windows 11 oh but it's not bit Locker it's encryption again I know it's confusing it's Microsoft I don't know what to tell you um by installing it by default Microsoft is just kind of forcing a higher security standard and you can disable it if you want to you can leave it enabled if you want to it's your choice whatever your preference is uh John suggests CPU Z can detect the chipset all right well we'll uh grab CPU Z we'll give that a shot I got my flash drive right here I got to copy some utilities off of this anyway so I figure out which direction it goes in there we go all right let's see I want see this let's drag that out want that oh there goes my video driver getting replaced and let's see I want so PC manager so Windows 10 Optimizer yes that works on Windows 11 I want to go into PC testing software copy Crystal disk info Crystal dis Mark CPU run CPU Z see if it tells us what chipset we've got trying to think when I look at the CPU Z ages in memory I don't recall it telling me the chipset but specifically looking for it so this is all about CPU under our main board chipset Intel what does that say well that was rude did it again might have to wait for this driver to finish installing it keeps trying to take screen Focus it's angry maybe if I just move it out of the way let's try that chip set Raptor Lake give us a number though good question all right Matt says if you want to back up the driver you have to turn off bit Locker no if you're backing up the drive outside of windows so in other words booting to like an acronis rescue disc you're not in windows's own environment once you're outside of windows you can't read an encrypted drive it's got to be uh booted to the installed operating system and then it it decrypts as you're using and encrypts and decrypts automatically we'll save that for another show it's not for today we don't want to pull this off the rails into a total different direction obviously you can do some Google searching on this this topic has been covered for the last five or six years it's it's not like the information's not out there do a Google search look here on YouTube uh a lot of people have explained it we can certainly explain it ourselves in a future show but it's clear to me that some people just are overthinking this and it's going to have to be a longer video for me to get people to stop overthinking it you can back up your computer just fine while you're in Windows if you want to turn the encryption off it's up to you you can leave it on if you need to access the drive outside of windows and encryption is turned on you w be able to that's what encryption does it's protecting your data from theft so again you can can search for that if you want that information today or you can remind me in the comments that you'd like me to cover that and we'll set aside a day well we could talk all about that the pros and cons and the hows and it's pretty much an issue with Windows pro versions they only Microsoft only recently introduced this encryption to Windows 11 on 22 H2 and again if you go back and read about 22 H2 this was talked about back then so all right let's get back to our reiew here of the ms01 now I've got the new video driver installed so let's go ahead and reboot that and still a valid question is you know what chipset does this have so uh we need to send an email I think over to our contact at Min forum and uh that might be the the best way to get that information George fuia says with an Intel Arc and an iris XC driver do you need to inst install a graphics card or Works without well we already have a graphics card installed that's built into our CPU so if you in addition have a graphics card you would download the same driver for Intel's uh Iris as it is I believe the arc driver shares the same platform if I'm not mistaken but just because your GPU is installed on your CPU does not mean you don't have a GPU that's what we call a integrated graphics card versus a discrete graphics card not all CPUs have integrated Graphics but when you see me building I always make sure I buy CPUs that have integrated because me as a content creator it actually benefits me more and graphics cards as we all know are very very expensive so I would prefer to not use them I also don't like to ship computers with discrete graphics cards cuz they just don't hold up well in shipping and it's kind of risky let me throw VLC on here real quick I just want to configure this the way I would normally configure okay that share close that out and then I Windows 10 Optimizer we'll run that real quick then while I'm waiting on this let me do a quick search here Dan Nelson with a $10 PayPal contribution thank you Dan um we want to know chipset Min Forum s dh01 I'm just looking to see if there's any discussion h yeah that's pretty strange pretty strange that the the chipsets not mentioned and I don't see anybody asking about it that's the other thing that's strange I'm sure it's not a secret it just appears to be an oversite for some reason get this Ms Microsoft PC manag installed it's on all systems now it's a great little maintenance utility it's free for Microsoft just ties in all of your windows maintenance tools into one convenient interface that you can set to auto run so I usually just uh install it and then set it to automatically run when which I'll demonstrate here you can follow through my steps click on launch now click on start boost go up here to that smart boost turn that on all done so so I like having that it's a nice little maintenance tool I can delete the installer here and here now with regards to the drive that we're using that we're booting from this nbme drive get a little bit of info here so the drive they've included is a Kingston This is a one terabyte nvme drive that's got the heat sink on it that I showed you earlier and if we run Crystal dis mark on that see what kind of numbers it gives us there's PSC computers Missouri joining us good afternoon Carrie he says colder than a well Digger is hind end in Missouri going to be in the negatives tonight for temps thanks for the tech info always appreciated well thank you for the weather update sounds chilly hey that thing moves pretty good we got some gen Force speeds going on here on this incl uh included Kingston Indy Drive Paul O'Brien contributes five EUR says bu Mara a pint of water what can I say government doesn't give me much money what's wrong tap water is not good enough for all right so we still have to figure out chip set this thing and PSC computers Miss Missi contributes $10 thank you PSC computers Missouri for your contribution Douglas brashell says tap water what's that might actually be healthier for you you know they're finding microplastics and bottled water that can get into your cells and your blood but you know you only live once so it tastes good enjoy it uh yeah where else can we determine uh chip set probably should be some piece of software that tell us how to determine chipset how do identify go to device manager Ty go to system devices oh I suppose that's true right click device manager system devices usually it's located right there by the uh LPC controller right in the title I say didn't it well apparently you know what let me go back over here not that often I get puzzled like this that's a good question just that the answer is so difficult uh you think that would be straightforward let's go back over to for site here now this hasn't been released yet so don't know if they're changing or adding anything to the website here but sometimes say specifications Tab and I'm not seeing it yeah we're gonna have to just that's what it looks like so uh basically what that means is you'll want to um check the video notes in a few days below the video and we'll be sure to add with the chipset is in the video note Elco says I never expected my question to be so intriguing yeah sometimes the easiest questions can be the most difficult ones to answer uh who knew okay so let me [Music] um oh you know what I can do I can message uh Patrick over at serve the home do you happen to know what chipset ms1 all right so Patrick probably knows all right now as we're approaching the 2hour mark on this video you know I like to wrap these up at the two-hour Mark so I want to move quickly now through the rest of this what we want to do is um close this down take this screen here and what is it function screen pain v file save as EG cryst dis mark on the Kingston terabyte jpeg save that on the desktop boom okay okay now I can close this and and I want to verify did have 32 gigs of RAM installed yes go over here [Music] system yeah we've got 32 gigs of RAM let's upgrade that to 96 gigs of RAM once again this is a be this is a brand new experience for me so uh share in this first time experience together had an intimate special such a nerdy thing to say okay so with it powered off I'm going to pull power here just for safety and let's grab our overhead virtual Mara camera turn that back on Yik tighten that up too tight about there should be good then over to the close up camera here we go all right so to get to the ram we better remove these three screws oh net freak just sent an Amazon gift card for $2 he says we appreciate your patience and time thanks teacher Carrie and assistant maralina well right on well thank you net freak for supporting the show all right here we go this is uh too big of a screwdriver so I'm going to need to grab my uh Precision drivers and I want a Phillips head should be wow those are really super tiny screws we're a little spoiled with the the HP Mini PCS how the fan just lifts out no tools needed so not sure why they decided to do that here but not that big of a deal this must pull up in a way I'm guessing something is holding there it goes okay so there's the installed RAM we have now it's crucial it's a 16 gig module that's uh 5600 speed ddr5 so let's pop that out get another one there facing the opposite way that one out can see our CPU heat sink there and then what we have right here this is the good stuff this a 96 gig kit each stick is 48 gigs each what did I say they say 48 gigs before it's 48 gigs if I misspoke earlier if I misspoke I may not have but if I did that's what I meant to say because what I'd cover my basis uh these are run about 150 bucks for each module right around there so you're looking at $300 for 96 gigs of RAM at least that's what I paid here in uh mid January of 2024 48 gigs 600 speed so same speed as what we took out pop that in there like that other module that one's going to go label side up that should be it should be our install for the ram put the screws back in it okay in theory should have 96 gigs of RAM this back in back on light is on CPU uh that Ram that I just uh this is our CPU fan that our Ram is underneath I just removed that that's spinning and I need to go over to our HDMI input now and bear in mind that this could take remember it had that warning that if we change the ram there could be a delay in the boot up not to freak out so if I can get camera one shrunken down here um it's important that you're patient that you don't freak out and think oh no you know my my Ram is bad basically when the system turns on the very first time after you've replaced your RAM sometimes even after you change storage in the case of ram it's got to retrain the RAM and the bigger the ram module is and the more of them you have the longer this can take so we're going to give this upwards of three to four minutes if needed and hopefully it'll train and it'll post and then from that point forward it'll be fast it's just that first time over here to chat room see what you guys are saying here looks like we've got about 316 people watching around the world let me know in the chat where in the world you are watching me from well something's starting to happen there we go see that took a a while a lot of people are used to that instantaneous if it doesn't happen their impatience can create a problem so it's very important you know what to expect so you don't cause a problem where there would not have been one if you'd had just been patient can't emphasize that enough now if we go over to let me see screen me to my system properties here right click on the start menu over to system 96 gigs of RAM so even though it said the maximum was like 64 we'll let them know they need to correct that because they're kind of underselling the device there's our 96 gigs that easy now when it comes to installing the u.2 let's do that now so let's go ahead and shut this down and I'm waiting for the power to go off there and we'll go back to full screen on one plug the power anytime we're working inside of it just because there's always voltage running through there as for these modules I will save these they can be used in something else that takes ddr5 so as to not confuse myself get my ever famous Sharpie marker out make a note that this is 32 gigs of ddr5 so I'll scratch out the 96 to make it 32 gabes and that will go back over on the part shelf for some future project down the road you'll see it again just a matter of time you'll say I recognize that Ram all right now let's get this which way now want to go back to this backs side and we're going to take take this fan off again I'll do this on the wide angle camera since before you had that top down View and my hands of course get in the way of that I did use the bigger screwdriver but these Precision drivers are actually a little appropriate for this work that okay now we'll bring out the overhead talk about what our options are here some decisions Elijah 52 Dickens now a member for 16 months right on thank you Elijah 52 dick we got people watching us uh in Ireland just 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m.2 slot if we want to use our u.2 drive because that's the only place it's going to fit also when we install this this drive you know the larger capacity drives may be thicker you you won't be able to put this back on uh you won't be able to put the cover back on if the drive is too thick so I don't want to mislead you into saying you could buy one of those larger capacity drives you need to check how thick it is to make sure that um it's not going to raise Above This lip so let's start by taking out current boot drive here we're just going to move this over we can still use it let's take this out just momentarily let me set it down you can see how they've got these rubber bands holding on this heat sink you can buy these heat sinks something very similar on AliExpress very inexpensive not quite sure how good of a job they do but something may be better than nothing and if if we wanted to use this we would plug it in here see that but notice where it our switch u.2 and m.2 when we put this in you can't see that label that tells us what that switch does anymore and that screw that I just took out can now go actually take then back the screw we just took out take a look here yeah we're going to leave that screw out because that screw holds the fan down right that one there so we're going to be in m.2 [Music] um we're going to be in u.2 so we want to be on the right side that two then plug this in I'm curious we use that is this going to tie down remember how I took this off it's kind of like that right so this screw that holds down this plate will also hold down the drive in this corner and this corner and those appear to be the only two screws I do see there's a cut out there but nothing for it to go down into so that's fine that'll work fine so then we're we're going to repurpose the screw that we just removed and we've got our 110 drop drive here we can to make it look aesthetically pleasing just have it go like in a like a graph so we'll put this 110 m.2 in here like this tighten that back down then if we want to put this drive back in our boot drive we can put it here but we will need to put the little standoff in so the bag that came with uh the computer here we've got two standoffs each but obviously we don't need it here oh there's super tiny very very tiny so that's going to go there okay then our original boot drive we can now put back in just like that this screw that took out was originally holding this drive in and we'll leave those leave that other one in there so I don't worry about okay now in theory that's fully populated with three different types of storage devices we've got our u.2 our M2 110 and our M2 um 80 80 mm 110 mm to okay okay so we can't put this back on you see how this fan sticks out it's hitting this heat sink here so this heat sink has to come off and because it's going to be directly underneath the fan it's not really going to be needed so we're going to pop this off and take the heat sink off if anything we might move the heat sink over to the other unit or no I would still get in the way so this should be super easy take off the rubber bands stuck on there pretty good it's easier to do this when they're warm be gentle with it you don't want to rip the chips off of so we can repurpose thatat syn and then here's the [Music] information on this m. two drive that was covered up now let's put that back in that's better now it looks like through me wiggling all this stuff around I've actually damaged my cable here looks like my ground wire right there if you look closely disconnect this I have to do myself a little repair see we've got a a little cable right there has come out of its fer but as long as the fan still spins that's all I care about now and I can fix that later yeah you got to be gentle with this stuff there this one here having a little alignment issue here it's better okay now we'll plug it in if the fan doesn't turn well that I'll have to uh prioritize getting my little soldering iron out and fixing that however if the fan is turning I'm not going to worry about it for now but I will address it later so plug this in now and me put it on its side let's go back over to camera [Music] one this camera okay turn this on back over now to HDMI input once again I will put myself in a corner now in theory it should try to boot from each of these drives and since only one of them is bootable shouldn't have to go into the bios and tallet and it does appear to be working is my fan back here spinning no spinning yeah that black wire is needed so when I attach it the fan spins so I'm not going to keep this on too long with all the heat that's going to be generated from all three of those drives but they do have uh thermal throttling so break them or anything that's an easy fix let me [Music] um Go full screen over screen let's go to Disk Management and it should see the two new drives and it does so we're just going to click okay right click on the first one new simple volume next next next finished right click on the next one new simple volume next next I did that too quickly it's our volume D volume F now that's all three storage drives installed and if you want want to see what the BIOS looks like I'll show you that and then any remaining questions that we can answer and then we'll wrap it up so I'm going to hit restart and then I'm going to go press delete over and over again okay now this bios entry screen is very familiar to us it's um when we saw on the uh XTX system that we just reviewed two weeks ago same thing we'll go under setup and here you can see our first page in the Bios that we're defaulting to with our BIOS version our installed RAM this the memory frequency date and time we go down to Advanced uh with trusted Computing CPU config uh C States enabled we got the power limit one here at UH 60 watts it looks like and 80 Watts on power limit 2 pl2 which I guess you can adjust but if you make those numbers bigger you might be running into heat issues back setting primary display internal Graphics aperture size HD audio S5 pcie support PCH PCI support back settings hardware monitor and fan monitor clearly are two fans not working and I leave all these defaults because the engineers have determined what's going to be the best overall under any weather room temperature and usage scenario and of course you can adjust those if that's something you want to play with to your specific environment and needs it's a little bit of uh pxe support in there which I don't boot from the land so there then an Western Digital envy and config are two drop oh that's interesting that's for the uh two dve guessing ether those are considered the add-ons here and under security you got your standard security stuff there under boot um again pretty much boiler plate options here that're very common mebx I don't know what that is Intel M password so I don't know what that is of course we have have save and exit changes didn't make any changes so just discard and boot okay so hopefully the camera one image didn't cover up much in the the text of the BIOS there I just realized I left that uh are there any final questions that you have about this little mini workstation uh bearing in mind that it is going to be running at gen four speeds okay so the question regarding the .2 really about power consumption capacity not so much about performance our performance is going to be dictated by our interface which is still Gen 4 and with Gen 4 on the high end you can expect up to 7 23 7400 megabytes per second if we spend big bucks on a high performance Drive which of course will generate more heat so you got to be conscientious of your heat in a system like this with regards to any add-in cards what gpus might work or if you want to go to a 25 gig SFP controller and you can put a controller in there uh lots of different cards got to pick one some of which are not compatible either because they're too large or they draw too much power um some may require in the case of a GPU if it fits it may require a bigger power brick to power it so Patrick over at serve the home also on their Forum threads they've got a whole discussion of what cards they've tested along with viewers that have tested cards that adds to a growing list of what's working what's not working and may give you ideas outside of a GPU for other things you could use that slot for that perhaps you hadn't considered we will as I mentioned reach out to mid's Forum and find out what that chipset is and I did reach out to Patrick as well let me see if Patrick has responded Patrick says Raptor Lake p is the chipset so it's an integrated PCH the I9 13900 H is a mobile SKU so it is integrated so Raptor like P so interesting thank you Patrick learn something new every day so there we have our answer okay all right I think that that's going to cover it for today's show I want to shout out another thank you and a reminder that the folks over at acronis are supporting us this year and if you're not making backups or you're not confident with the backups you're making you should absolutely consider getting a cronis we have a discount for all viewers 30% off throughout the entire year so you know if you can't get it today gota wait till you get paid coupon code we're going to keep that around all year it's going to get you a one-year subscription we're going to bring folks from acronis on uh likely B Goen will come back and we'll go over some more of the details and how to use it as well as we have content already out so you don't have to wait go back and watch some of our previous interviews and how to as I've demonstrated how to use it also a shout out to our friends over at instant house call I use instant house call for remote access it's how I help my customers if you have any need for remote access especially if you're a technician you really need to check out instant house call if you haven't before or if you haven't in a while it's been updated like last year he updated it it's a significant version upgrade and uh it's much more responsive now than it was both the cronis and instant house call do have free trials so you can try them out and decide uh you want to buy it you know it's not one of those situations where you have to give up credit card information or anything download the software companies don't play those games and we don't work with companies that do that anyway uh a shout out and a thank you to all my contributors and members thank you to Mara for making our thumbnail and video notes and of course a big thank you to the folks at Min forum for sending us this unit for review we'll do some more with it I suspect if I put CyberLink power director on this this could be a killer video editing machine I mean if it runs as good as and ideally better than my 13500 in the back that's way smaller so H the only difference is the 13500 in the back has a Gen 5 uh nbme which runs at 12,400 megabytes per second I think or was that one that one might be the slower one at 10,000 megabytes second but I don't know how much of that actually makes a difference in rendering it's not like it's rendering out that much data that quickly I think the bottleneck is my storage so that's why I'm curious how this will perform so what I need to do is basically have it render out the same exact project on both the 13500 and on this and then see what the rendering time difference is whether or not there's any difference or if it's a major difference one way or the other inquiring minds want to know so this has the potential to be my new editing r as for all the networking ports on it I don't have use for that in fact uh the machine in the back is on Wi-Fi because I don't have any cables running through Studio B here so uh this has built-in Wi-Fi we'll probably just end up using that and we won't even use any of the networking ports if I end up using it as a video editor so it holds a lot of Promise the first thing I'm going to do once I'm done here today is I'm going to break out whatever tools I need I guess it's not the soldering I'm G to need something with that black wire back but very minor little repair that of course with cover back on and I still have to go through the Windows updates which I've not done with you guys we've been busy doing all this other stuff so thank you to everybody for hanging out with me I hope you enjoy the rest of your day have a great weekend I have a bunch of new content um just waiting in the wings we have a um one two three more minis for them C to get to none of them are as Extreme as this a little more probably um Down to Earth from a home users perspective uh if you're interested in home lab though this thing what a beast Mara says she added the chipset to the notes chipset information thank you again uh to maralina and thank you to all of the supporters and members and if you're new here we hope that you'll stick around and join us if you're watching 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Published: Fri Jan 12 2024