Limited Atonement

but I think I'll do now is get right in and jump in to L I've done a tulip or tul so far or to you actually I've done the total depravity done unconditional election and today I'm doing limited atonement all right let me get right into it eliminate limited atonement is it's um it's this Christ bore the sin only of the elect and legally paid their sin debt and not the sin debt of everyone who ever lived so let me say it again in limited atonement Christ bore the sin only of the elect and legally paid their sin debt and not the sin of the world or not the sin of everybody who ever lived that's the issue now what I want you to understand is this Christ's blood was certainly sufficient for all but not all sin was imputed to Christ not to impugn to reckon legally to another's account so not all sin was imputed to Christ and I'll show you not proved to you not all sin was imputed to Christ later on a lie there's absolutely proof of that in Scripture nevertheless the sufficiency of Christ's blood and the extent of the legal activist sacrifice are not the same thing let me say this again the sufficiency of Christ's blood and the extent of the legal act of his sacrifice or the extent of whose sin was imputed to him is not the same thing his blood is not the same thing as an imputation and a lot of people fail to get this to impugn to reckon to another's account our sin was imputed to Christ first Peter 2:24 he bore our sin so it's an imputation it's a legal transference and we'll get into that a little bit more we have to understand that this issue of atonement is a legal act you see sin is a legal problem since sin is breaking the law of God first John 3:4 says sin is lawlessness so sin is a legal problem it's not only a legal problem but it is definitely a legal problem and I keep emphasizing the word legal it's legal because it breaks the law of God and it that's why it's legal real simple now maybe some of you didn't know this but Jesus equates sin and legal debt Jesus does that you're all familiar with the prayer our Father who art in heaven hallowed be thy name thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven forgive us our debts in Matthew 6:12 Oh fie Leymah is the word debt it means legal debt the parallel version in Luke 11 for of the same prayer says and forgive us our sins at Amartya Jesus equates debt legal debt and sin as what Jesus said in Matthew 6:12 in Luke 11 for so again I'm gonna be emphasizing this sin is a legal problem and because it's a legal problem we need a legal solution Jesus was made under the law Galatians 4:4 and he never sinned he never ever broke the law of God 1st Peter 2:22 so Jesus sacrificed had to be according to the law because he's made under the law and it had to be sufficient and proper in order to offer a legal solution for our legal problem you see God will judge us according to the law if you lie you've broken the law of God therefore there's a punishment associated with the law the punishment is separation from God isaiah 59:2 again breaking the law of God is sin first John 3:4 now Jesus said in Matthew 5:17 do not think that I came to abolish the law or the prophets I did not come to abolish but to fulfill now we can get into all kinds of areas of how Jesus fulfills the Old Testament but in the context of our atonement Leviticus 17:11 for the life of the flesh is in the blood and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls Deuteronomy 17 1 you shall not sacrifice to the Lord your God an ox or sheep which has a blemish or any defect was sinless who's perfect in John 1936 for these things came to pass that the scripture might be fulfilled not a bone of him shall be broken that's Exodus 24 36 you can talk about that but I'm just trying to show you that Jesus sacrifice was according to the Old Testament law he bore our sin in his body on the cross that's first Peter 2:24 you see our sin was imputed to him you got to understand something sin is a concept as well as an action it's something that I that I would do it let's just say hypothetically that I were to slap you on the face now why do I do that if I did it because I don't like you and I just slap you and that's the only reason then I've not loved you I have sinned but what if there's a very dangerous bug poisonous bug on your cheek and I slap you to stop you from being stung and being injured well then it's okay see the motivation is what makes something sinful or not now there's a little bit guess there's a note of that but for our the intent what we're talking about here that our sin is something that occurs in us in our rebellion against God and if we purposely lie we've done this in our hearts we have sinned now sin is an issue that relates to the law of God Jesus was made under the law Galatians 4:4 and he never broke the law 1st Peter 2:22 and our sin was transferred to him first Peter 2:24 legal debts can be transferred you see if I go to a restaurant and you have a legal debt of a meal that you forgot to pay I can get the cash out and I can pay your debt and legal debts are transferred we know this we can pay each other's debts our legal debt our breaking of the law our sin debt was transferred to Christ now a lot of people don't understand something here they don't know that on John and it's gonna be in John 19:30 on the cross Jesus says it is finished that Greek word it's a single Greek word tetelestai it means it is finished in English and it has been found at the bottom of ancient tax documents signifying a legal debt that has been paid in full Jesus says to tell us die it's like him saying you know an illegal debt a legal action that that what's been happening has been fulfilled taken care of he was referencing the legality issue of his own sacrifice now there's a very very important verse Colossians 2:14 it's my go to verse in so many things and this is what it says I'm gonna read out of the NASB Jesus having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees which against us which was hostile to us and he's taken it out of the way having nailed it to the cross now in Greek having cancelled the two words having canceled is a Greek excel it's us and it's what's called an aorist participle in the Greek and what it means it's it's an action completed its ongoing completed in the past it's done having cancelled it is done in the past tense it's done there now different translations will use it differently the King James says blotting out the New King James having wiped out the ASV the authorised Senate version and the Youngs literal translations say having blotted out the ESV says canceling the NIV says having cancelled you see the idea is it doesn't exist anymore that's what it means the Greek word means to cause something to cease by obliterating any evidence to eliminate to do away with to wipe it out in other words it's gone it is cancelled and the liveried this verse again Colossians 2:14 Jesus having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us and which was hostile to us he's taken it out of the way having nailed to the cross now when to taken away when is the debt the certificate of debt we'll get into this a little bit more when was it taken away when you believe or when it was nailed to the cross well this is significant Jesus having canceled off the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us which was hostile to us he taken it out of the way having nailed it to the cross of debt is canceled at the cross now in the Greek the phrase certificate of debt is a single Greek word care Audra fund and what it means is a legal document a handwritten document that legally binds you a handwritten document of indebtedness and Paul uses the word here it's the only place that occurs in the entire Bible Cara Griffin only occurs right here in Colossians 2:14 says Jesus having canceled out the certificate of debt that's the NASB now what is it that's cancelled out think about it if it's our sin debt that's cancelled then nobody can go to hell for whom the debt has been canceled it is that simple we'll get into some objections and I'll answer some stuff but you can understand something it's a legal act that Jesus did in the cross when he bore our sin in his body in the cross now when we look at Colossians 2:14 we only have two options we have the moral law is what was canceled and the sin debt was cancelled if it's the moral law that was cancelled in Colossians 2:14 at the cross not when you believe incidentally I don't care what you say if you disagree with that go to Colossians 2:14 and it says he cancelled the certificate of debt having nailed it to the cross that's when it was cancelled it was not canceled when you believe well this may blow a lot of people's minds but that's what the text says Colossians 2:14 go check it out now if it's the case that what the certificate of debt is referring to is only the moral law then there's a problem if it's the moral law only that is done away with and if it's done away at the cross for everybody because that's who he died for for everybody bored with buddies sins then everybody has to go to heaven because you see Romans 7 4 says therefore my brethren you also were made to die to the law through the body of Christ and Romans 4 15 for the law brings about wrath but where there is no law there is no violation you see that well there is no law there is no violation there's no sin if there is no law if the law the certificate of debt is that law the Carragher font is the written law and it's been cancelled and removed and if it's been cancelled and removed for everyone then nobody can go to hell because there is no violation romans 4:15 romans 7 for now if on the other hand what is talked about here is the sin debt then we have another problem for those people who don't believe a limited atonement if our sin debt is what is paid for in the cross and Colossians 2:14 says that it's canceled and that's what it says then it's either canceled for everybody or it's not canceled for everybody it's either canceled for everyone who ever lived or it's not canceled for everyone who ever lived people will say well Matt you know you got to believe well we'll get to that we'll get to that just just just hold your horses a little bit I want to give you an illustration I want to give an illustration of something I call it a column coma man now let's think in the terms of legality remember sin is breaking the law of God first John 3:4 Jesus bore our sin a sin debt can be transferred it was transferred to Christ he bore our sin in his body in the cross now comma men there's a man on a way on his way to to the bank to pay a mortgage payment he's got a whole bunch left to pay but he's baek's his monthly payment and on the way there he gets in a car accident and he he ends up in the hospital for a whole month in a coma while he's in the coma a man a philanthropist hears about his dilemma knows he's gonna have a lot of medical bills and just tight decide to take pity on him and he goes to the bank and he writes a check and he pays off the man's mortgage it's paid no I got a question for you is it paid or is it not paid of course it's paid all right does that debt exist anymore no it does not can that man be held responsible for a debt that doesn't exist no he can't as is a debt canceled yes is it blotted out yes is it wiped away yes does it exist anymore no can he be held responsible for it No if Jesus bore the sin of everybody who ever lived and as Colossians 2:14 says he canceled out the certificate of debt if he did it for everybody then everybody must go to heaven because there is no sin debt left now people say to me well Matt they gotta believe yes they do have to believe God infallibly brings them to the faith he grants that they believe Flipkens 129 our believing is the work of God John 6 28 29 as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed acts 13:48 he grants repentance to them 2nd Timothy 2:25 God knows who are his whom he has called whom he has given to the son for redemption he Jesus redeems them bears their sin which is in the future and in the past because of people in the Old Testament who Jesus bore the sin of and people in the future us now who Jesus bore the sin of the elect the chosen ones he bore their sin and we will at the right time come to a saving faith because God will grant us repentance grant that we believe and give us that ability to believe well get into that on irresistible Grace on the next lesson on tomorrow now again if you say that he bore the sin of everybody who ever lived and it's canceled as Colossians 2:14 says you've got a problem because it says it's cancelled you can't go to hell for a sin that that's cancelled well some people just couldn't mean they say well Matt you have to believe you got to receive it in koma man's situation does he have to believe that the sin excuse me that his debt is paid norfert to be paid nope does he have to believe it in order for it to actually have been applied to his account of course not so coma man wakes up is a miraculous recovery he goes at the bank and he it explains his is the leave his reason for being late and he hands a check of the teller the teller looks up his accountant says sorry it's been canceled been blotted house been wiped away well what did that happen Oh few weeks ago I guess when you were in the hospital and you wasn't even aware of it I don't accept that the bank teller is gonna say doesn't make any difference because if it's legally taken care of it's legally taken care of it doesn't depend on your attitude it's a legal thing not an attitudinal thing and even though the coma man illustration coma man was unconscious and not aware of his debt being paid it has no bearing on whether or not legally it was or was not paid now no analogy is perfect in Christianity we are justified by faith Romans 5:1 because we believe and that's when we experience the righteousness of Christ imputed to us Philippians 3:9 we have a righteousness that's not our own because we receive the righteousness of Christ who lived perfectly and never sinned first Peter 2:22 he's the one who did this and so we were counted in him we'll get into that a little bit too do you see the problem Colossians 2:14 raises it's a serious issue I want you to reveal it Colossians 2:14 says he cancelled a certificate of debt at the cross he doesn't cancel it when you believe now I know some people are gonna just object to that then I have a solution for you take a magic marker just wipe out Colossians 2:14 and that way no more problem for you or take an exacto knife cut it out no more problem for you but that's what it says I've not heard anybody get out of this argument I've not heard anybody excuse themselves from it and say that Jesus bore the sin of everybody who ever lived you see the problem now let me run something by you let's just say that someone says no Jesus legally bore the sin of every individual who ever lived and because they didn't believe in him which itself is a sin but because they didn't believe in him they go to hell let me ask you then is their sin paid for yes and why they going to hell could they didn't believe is not believing a sin yes so it was that paid for do you pay for all of our sins sin people say well all of them except that well where's that the scriptures show me that in Scripture it's not in the book of hesitations of the book of Deuteronomy show me in Scripture if God sends to hell the people for whom their sin that has been cancelled then God Himself is unrighteous if you want to say that Jesus did cancel the sin debt but because they didn't believe which doesn't make any sense but because they didn't believe they're going to hell anyway then you're saying they go to hell for a sin debt that's been cancelled it's unrighteous what are you choosing god of being don't bring him down to your level I know I'm being harsh aren't I you know yes we must believe but non-belief is not the unforgivable sin the unforgivable sin is blaspheming the holy spirit Matthew 12:22 through 30 to read the context they were saying Jesus was performing his miracles by the power of the enemy and he said blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven because Jesus was performing his miracles by the power of the Holy Spirit there are many people who have denied Christ who have not believed who have refused to believe in Christ and then have later believed if unbelief was the unforgivable sin then they could never be forgiven and they would have to go to hell people don't think this through we are commanded to believe in God Exodus 20 verse 3 you shall have no other gods before me Deuteronomy 6:5 you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart with all your soul with all your might John 14:1 do not let your heart be troubled believe in God believe also in me belief is a command part of the law did Jesus pay for all of your sin obviously not sin of blasphemy the Holy Spirit obviously not that he did not pay for the sins of the blaspheming Holy Spirit he did not and there's yet something else that I'm gonna show you that Jesus could not have won the sin off I'm going to turn to first samuel three verses 13 and 14 for i abyss god teaches by speaking for i have told him that I am about to judge his house forever for the iniquity which he knew because his sons bought us could be brought a curse on themselves and he did not rebuke them this is God speaking therefore I have sworn to the house of Eli that the iniquity of Eli's house shall not be atoned for by sacrifice or offering forever did Jesus bear the sin of everyone who ever lived nope therefore I have sworn to the house of Eli that the iniquity of Eli's house shall not be atone for by sacrifice or offering for ever for Samuel 3:14 now some people may say Matt that's in the context of Old Testament sacrifices that's all that's referring to really will not be atoned for by sacrifice or offering forever is Jesus sacrifice a sacrifice yeah is it an offering to God yes is it included in the forever yes did Jesus bear their sins no you could not a lot of people don't know that there are two kinds of limited atonement now here's a shock so I'm gonna ask you which kind of limited helmet do you believe in you see you either limit the power of Christ's sacrifice or you limit the scope generally speaking limited atonement means that the scope of Christ's sacrifice is limited is limited only to the elect not to everyone who ever lives but in the other view the power of Christ's sacrifice is limited you see the reform believed that the sacrifice of Christ is so powerful that it automatically effectively cancels the sin debt for everyone for whom Christ died therefore the reformed limit the scope the non reform don't believe the sacrifice of Christ is so powerful that it automatically cancels a sin debt for everyone for whom Christ died therefore they limit its power either the sacrifice of Christ on the cross is powerful enough to automatically remove our sin or does not the reform say it is the non reform say it's not they say to sacrifice of God he fulfilled the law he bore our sins he paid the price he cancelled the debt but it is not a matically cancel your debt it's not that powerful and which one you want to hold to which one do you hold to let's take another little direction here did you know that Jesus says who he lays his life down for he says he lays his life down for the Sheep not the goats the Sheep John 10:11 I am The Good Shepherd the Good Shepherd lays down his life for the Sheep John 10:15 even as a father knows me and I know the father and I lay my life down for the Sheep he doesn't say he laid his life down for the goats now check this out Matthew 25 verses 31 through 33 but when the Son of Man comes in his glory and all the angels with him then he will sit on his glorious throne all the nations will be gathered before him and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats and he'll put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left and of course the goats go to hell John 10 26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep you're not of my sheep John 10 26 now remember Jesus says he lays his life down for the Sheep of what he specifically says John 10:27 28 my sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me and I give eternal life to them and they never perish and no one will snatch them out of my hand John 17:20 and he's talking here this is really interesting I do not ask on behalf of these alone the disciples in the context but for those also who believe in me through their word he's only asking the father on behalf of the Sheep now I've already gone over this issue that Jesus did not pay for all sin he didn't did not pay for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit in 1st Samuel 3 verse 14 he did not atone for the sins of Eli's house he didn't who did he pay for he pray he could be he paid for those whom Christ represented on the cross now check this out Romans 6 8 now if we have died with Christ Colossians 2 20 if you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world Colossians 3:3 for you have died in your life is hidden with Christ in God 2nd Timothy 2:11 it is a trustworthy statement for if we died with him we shall also live with him says we died with him when did we die with him when did we die when did we die with Jesus we died with him in his death when did Jesus die two thousand years ago Romans 6:6 says knowing this that our old self was crucified with him our old self was crucified with him wait a minute what does that mean does it mean everybody who ever lived was crucified with Christ because if you're crucified you no longer live to the law you you no longer are your own you're a Christian our old self was crucified with him what do we say that an unbeliever those who have gone to hell or going to hell oh no they were crucified with Christ two thousand years ago yeah and two verses later in Romans six eight we have died with Christ yea they died with him too but they go to hell it doesn't make any sense we never find anywhere in scripture where it says an unbeliever has died with Christ it's always a believer who dies with Christ never the unbeliever and having said that I'm going to show you something we never find any place in scripture where unbelievers have died to sin died with Christ died to the world it's always only the believers 2nd Corinthians 5:14 for the love of Christ controls us have you concluded this that one died for all therefore all died when people say Matt see there you call he died for all that means everybody ever lived let's work with that for the love of Christ controls us having concluded this that one died for everyone who ever lived there for everyone who ever lived died really they died with Christ that was talking about they died to the elementary principles of the world is that what it's saying for the love of Christ controls us have you concluded this that one died for everyone who ever lived there for everyone who ever lived died that's not what's going on how about this for the love of Christ controls us having concluded this that one died for the elect there for the elect died that makes sense knowing this that our old self was crucified with him Romans 6:6 we died with Christ Romans 6 8 when did Christ die two thousand years ago so we were crucified with him you see that's called federal headship that he represented us federal headship is the teaching that the male represents a descendents in Adam all died first Corinthians 15:22 in Christ all shall be made alive shall be made alive can't be everybody that all can only be the elect we say this again first Corinthians 15:22 for as an atom all die that means he represented his people which is everybody so also in Christ all will be made alive the only ones in Christ are the believers the elect they all will be made alive that's the only way it makes sense also Romans 5:18 so as through one offense there resulted condemnation to all men that's everybody no problem so also through one righteous deed there resulted justification of life to all men who's the all who were justified again only the believers and they're called the all now Romans 5:18 is an interesting verse I don't have time to go into it right now I've done it before I've studied this verse for like 25 years and the NASB Bible has the best translation the King James adds words into another translation soften it and I can do a little addendum to some of this by going through that particular verse but nevertheless for now it parallels 1st Corinthians 15:22 both written by Paul first print is 15 22 for as in Adam all die so also in Christ all shall be made alive that is regeneration that is salvation that all we may alive and I don't teach universalism that everyone's going to heaven but that all can only be the elect it can only be the elect it doesn't make sense to say it could be anything else to check this out Jesus says this in John 6 37 through 40 all that the father gives me will come to me and the one who comes to me I certainly will not cast out who's the all the ones given to him by the father for I've come down from heaven not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me this is the will of who of him who sent me that of all that he's given me I lose nothing but raise it up on the last day you see trust me I can go through this quite a bit on this thing of the all but I only have an hour on this show and I want to get this done so we see it makes sense to say that he only died for the elect now you know there are people who say well Matt I understand what you're saying it makes sense but what do you do about these verses that says he dies for the world the first one that a look at is John 1:29 which says this behold the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world see Matt he takes away the sin of the world not just the elect does he take away the sin of the world if you say yes and you mean everybody ever lives then is the sin of everyone who ever lived taken away if it's taken away they can't go to hell if that's what you mean did he take away the sin of those who are damned if the word world means everyone who ever lived so many people just assume the word world means everyone who ever lived well how do you know she looked what is romans 3 6 say may it never be for otherwise how will God judge the world talking about sin and righteousness how will God judge the world I think that means everybody ever lived no problem but how about Acts 11:28 one of them named Agabus stood up and began to indicate by the spirit that there would certainly be a great famine over all the world and this took place in the reign of Claudius did the great famine over all the world all over the world that did occur in New Zealand and Australia did it occur there in Alaska at that time the word world here means a limited area how about this one in Matthew 26 13 truly I say to you wherever this gospel is preached in the whole world what this woman has done will also be spoken of in her memory this deals with all the nations in the whole world in the whole world whole world has talked about all the nations all the areas John 1:10 he was in the world and the world was made through him and the world did not know him the world did not know him we could say that is the secular realm the realm of the unbelievers the world of the unbelievers we could also go to acts 17:24 the God who made the world in all things in it well that's talking about the planet Earth so the word world means at least five different things depending on the context every individual a limited area all the nations secular realm and the planet Earth well people say Li's Jesus in Bear of the whole world what do they mean what are they reading into the text does their context demand that mean everybody who ever lived if it means everybody who ever lived in John 1:29 well then why does anybody go to hell if he takes away the sin of the world of everybody ever lived it wouldn't make any sense you see his problem furthermore who was Jesus sent to was he sent to the world was he sent to the world to redeem the world and all that no he wasn't he was not sent to the world that's right he was not sent to the world Matthew 15:24 this is what Jesus says I was sent not except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel he says he was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel was he sent to Egypt nope was he sent to Syria nope notice Matthew 10:5 these twelve Jesus sent out after instructing them saying do not go in the way of the Gentiles and do not enter any city of the Samaritans but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel he sang only go to Israel she Jesus was sent covenant Li to Israel but Israel broke the covenant with the Messiah with God who is to send the Messiah then we the Gentiles were grafted in when it says the sins of the whole world all the nations all the people groups all of them acts 10:45 and all the circumcised believers who had come with Peter were amazed because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out upon the Gentiles also they understood Jesus the Messiah was only supposed to come for the people of Israel they were surprised that it was upon the Gentiles also Acts 11:1 now the Apostles and the brethren who were throughout Judea heard that the Gentiles also had received the Word of God acts 11 18 when they had heard this they quieted down and glorified God saying well then God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life Romans 3 29 and 30 or it's God the God of the Jews only is he not the God of the Gentiles also yes of Gentiles also since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one the point is that Jews understood the Messiah was there only for the Jews Jesus even said he was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel so when he says to the sins of the whole world does it mean every individual does it mean all the nations which one do you assume is the case and if you assume it can you back it up with Scripture because I can back mine up let's go to John 3:16 for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in him would not perish but have everlasting life for God so loved the world you see everybody ever lived really how do you know it's just an assumption how do you know that's what it means well Curtis says whosoever no doesn't in the Greek it does not say whoever which is the Greek word hosts it says pasta pasta on all the believing one all the believing one all of the ones believing doesn't say that they do it out of their exercise our free will in their sinfulness and they come there and that's how it is and then therefore has to be for everybody so much is read into this verse how does God love all people in one sense yes Matthew 5:43 248 and another sense no because he hates people who do iniquity Psalm 5:5 Psalm 11 5 but when he says he loves the world is not just a Jewish nation it's all the nations how about John six 33 for the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven and gives life to the world if the word world means everybody who ever lived does he give life to them what does that mean is he giving them salvation that's what life means eternal life doesn't make sense but it does make sense that the word world means all the nations how about Romans 8:32 233 he who did not spare his own son but delivered him over for us all how will he not also give him freely give us all things who will bring a charge against God's elect God is one who justifies the notice the context of who they all is in the context of the elect people think okay Matt you're going too far read it read it us all he delivered him over for us all could it be everybody ever lived well I think it's possible and exegetically possible I don't think it's legally possible because Jesus cancelled the certificate of debt on the cross Colossians 2:14 he finished it legally on the cross John 19:30 if a sin that's canceled you can't be held responsible for it Romans 14 15 for if because of food your brother is hurt you're no longer walking according to love but do not destroy your food with your food for whom Christ died does Destruction mean they go to hell could it be that what is it referring to was stumbling your brother and the Lord and contributing to his sin and thereby he's physically destroyed because of spin of sin excuse me but not spiritually destroyed we can go on to all kinds of possibilities here but these are even aren't the good ones first Timothy 4:10 is supposed to be one of their favorites for it is for this that we labor and strive because we have fixed our hope on the Living God who is the savior of all men especially of believers so let's take the word all and let's insert everyone who ever lived okay he is the savior of everyone who ever lived especial of believers well-hit got a question you see the Savior those in hell how is he the savior of those who weren't saved how is he is the savior of those who are damned how did he save them is either Savior he's not their Savior if he didn't save him but he is a savior generically of the whole world he is a savior of all kinds of men all sorts of men that's how we could understand it very clearly of all men the Jews the Greeks all men especially of those who believe now that makes sense about Hebrews 2:9 but we do see him who was made for a little while lower than the Angels namely Jesus because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone people say well that proves he died for everyone does it whereas I say he bore everyone's sin where does it say he died for everyone so it will taste death for everyone well what is seriously what is the phrase taste death for everyone mean you see a lot of people they'll just say Matt you're asking dumb questions I don't think it's a dumb question what does it mean I don't want to just assume it means something and then make a theology on an assumption I want to see if my assumption can be substantiated by the Scriptures I go look at what it means in the scriptures I go see if the phrase occurs at other places I go look at its pattern now we know that to taste suggests some sort of an experience but what does it mean to experience death for everybody is it speaking of the experience of Christ showing what the death to the world ought to be does it mean that it was sufficient for all but only efficient for some what does it mean if you want to tell me that it absolutely means it's for everybody ever lived then you have to prove that's the case and don't just say well that's what it says that's not what it says he tasted death for everyone what does that mean you have to prove it from Scripture don't just make an ass and then run with it the blood of Christ you know it could be that he tasted death which I certainly believed the blood of Christ is sufficient for all but Christ only legally bore the sin of the elect it could be that the all who's talking about is the elect because there seems to be a pattern where that's the case all that you've given me I will lose none God doesn't look in the future to see who's gonna pick him then he gives them to the son this picking this choosing this election is before the foundation of the world that's Ephesians 1 verses 4 & 5 and I know people go to Romans 9:22 being a 29 and 30 those who me foreknew he also predestined it's not about looking in the future to see who would pick him under different circumstances and then God will pick them we've already gone over this that's a false teaching and beside it says those whom he foreknew he also predestined the four known ones are also the predestined ones they're the same group we could make the case that the all here is the elect let's go to 2nd Peter 2:1 but false prophets also arose among the people just as there will be also be false teachers among them who will secretly introduced introducing this could be introduced destructive heresies even get this even denying the master who bought them bringing Swift destruction upon themselves now Matt that proves your limited atonement thing as false no it doesn't if Jesus only paid for the elect they'll can ask why does it say that the false teachers deny the Lord at bottom one of the things I do when I address this with people's I asked him have you read the context have you looked at the context of what Peters saying and he said of course you have I mean we be looked I see who's Peter writing to he's writing for the Jews they are the aliens scattered abroad first Peter 1 verse 1 in his two epistles he refers to the Old Testament in 1st Peter chapter 1 verses 22 through 25 in chapter 2 verses 6 through 9 in chapter 2 verse 24 in chapter 3 verses 8 through 12 in 2nd Peter chapter 2 verses 5 through 8 and second Peter 2 verses 21 and second Peter 3 verses 4 through 6 he's referring to the Old Testament a great deal isn't he so I got a question for you is it reasonable to say that he is maybe referring to something in the Old Testament well I offer this for your perusal Deuteronomy 32 6 do you thus repay the Lord of foolish and unwise people is not he your father who has bought you he has made you and established you Moses was addressing the rebellious Israelites who were turning away from God is he not he our Father who has bought you that is didn't God redeem you from the tyranny of Egypt yes he did does it mean they're all going to heaven no it means that they were all followers of Yeshua of Yahweh no no what sense were they bought in the generic sense of being set free the Jews also were like that there were false teachers inside of Judaism and he is referencing you denying the Lord who bought you don't you see the freedom that you have in Christ and you don't even want that you're denying the Lord who bought you just as it was in Egypt so as it is here he's addressing the Jews he's alluding most probably to that historical event now we know false prophets weren't saved notice what it says in 2nd Peter 2:1 but false prophets also arose among the people are they Christians no are they same no had they been purchased and had your sins canceled at the cross obviously not can't be that they're talking about to believers because they're they're not believers they're false prophets we're running out of time let me get to some more verses first John 4:14 we have seen and testified that the father has sent the son to be the savior of the world again if the word world means everyone who ever lived is he the savior of those who are damned of course not see the problem there let's get to 1st John 2:2 this would be the last verse we'll have time to go through here some others that people can say you didn't answer this one well I'm sorry running at a time first John 2:2 and he himself is the propitiation for our sins and not only for ours only but also for those of the whole world so we reform people say that the word world is referring to all the nations which I've already made the case can be the case both Jew and Gentile is not just a Jewish nation remember Jesus was sent to Israel not to the Gentile nations Matthew 25 3 Matthew 15:24 we were later grafted in as Jesus said he was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel Matthew 15:24 did you know that the word propitiation it's very interesting it means the removal of wrath by a sacrifice by the offering of a gift that's what it means a new Bible dictionary ok talks about that it is also the act of appeasing another's person's anger by the offering of a gift the Tyndale Bible dictionary propitiation means the sacrifice that removes what wrath did he prepare she the whole world if the word world means every individual did he remove the wrath of God for everyone who ever lived apparently not since people are going to hell that's what we're professional means comes the Ricola sauce if the word world means the elect no problem if the word world means just all the nations and the elect within the nations then no problem but if you want to say it means everyone who ever lived you've got a problem because how is it that he propitiated that he removed the wrath of God from everybody who ever lived if it means for the whole world and the word world means everyone who ever lived it doesn't make sense if you view the sacrifice of Christ as a legal sacrifice and if you understand that sin is breaking the law of God and therefore we will be judged and Jesus bore our sin in his body in the cross first Peter 2:24 if you understand that Jesus made a legal sacrifice as it says in John 19:30 it is finished the Greek to tell us an act of legal debt payment if you understand that Jesus equated sin with legal debt in Matthew 6:12 in Luke 11 for if you understand that he made a legal payment on the cross according to the Old Testament law which is clearly the case and he died with our sins in his body that's first Peter 2:24 that means our sins were legally reckoned to his account that means our sin that was put upon him and he canceled it Colossians 2:14 at the cross it's not canceled when you believe it's canceled at the cross that's what Colossians 2:14 says if that is the case it must be that God who gave the elect to the son from the foundation of the world as Jesus says in John 6 37 through 40 all that you've given me I will lose none and that we were chosen from the foundation of the world Ephesians one four and five that Jesus would be the one who would bear the sins of the ones given to him and he would die on that cross bearing their sins bearing their legal debt cancelling their legal debt on the cross and then God infallibly brings to the faith by predestination those for whom Christ died the sin debt that was actually canceled by Jesus on the cross was canceled for the elect then we are granted the act of believing Philippians 1:29 our believing is the work of God John 6 28 29 that's when we're justified that's when the actual righteousness of Christ is imputed to us when we believe he cancelled a sin debt on the cross 2,000 years ago did it for the elect then the elect are granted the act of believing later on and that's when they're imputed with the righteousness of Christ Philippians 3:9 having a righteousness that's not our own but a righteousness that comes from God are you gonna tell me that he paid for the sins of everybody who ever lived and their sin that has been cancelled yet they also go to hell that's accusing God of unrighteousness for God cannot condemn people to hell who don't have a sin debt held to their name and if you want to say that Jesus only potentially saved them only potentially atone for them then you're weakening the very sacrifice of Christ and you believe in limited atonement that you believe in limiting the power we believe in limiting the scope because it is so powerful we believe that God accomplished what he set out to accomplish and he actually did save those whom the father gave to the son for saving having been chosen for salvation 2nd Thessalonians 2:13 and given to the son Romans 6 it's gonna be John 6:37 through 40 that's what I believe that's what I believe is the case now before this ends let me say Romans 14 do not pass judgment on your brothers and your sisters in these debatable issues my goal is not to convince you that this position is true my goal is to convince you that we have a position that we can defend from Scripture though you may not agree with everything I've said at least I want you to come away saying all right they take the Word of God seriously they do look at these verses they don't just close their eyes and ignore what the obvious is they look they think look we're all saved by the blood of Christ and we need to look to him and be we need glorify Him that's the truth amen and amen and by His grace back in the studio tomorrow and we'll talk about irresistible grace god bless see you then bye you

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Published: Fri Apr 01 2016