Lily Tomlin Explains Why She Turned Down Coming Out on Time Magazine

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You met before-- obviously, 9 to 5-- but when did you meet? Met her in about '78, '79-- an AA meeting, I think it was. Right? And she was, you know-- alcoholics are so funny. She was really funny. No, I saw her at a show called Appearing Nightly, and I was gobsmacked. I just could not believe that so many people live inside of this amazing body. How does a gob smack you? With a bunch of rope rolled-- It works for you. I mean, anyway-- and so I totally changed the idea for 9 to 5 because of her. Because I said, I don't want to make a movie about secretaries if she's not in it. Yeah, because it was your idea to do 9 to 5? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's really great. So you got her involved and then Dolly also? Or was Dolly already set? No, no, no. It was Lily. And then driving home from seeing her, I turned the radio on and Dolly was singing. And I thought, oh, wouldn't that be interesting? You know, typing and she can't see her fingers and-- Yeah. That's fantastic. People would want to see that. Yeah. Yeah. And you were right. I was. You were absolutely right. Yeah. So it was 30 years ago since you did that, right? 30-- 35, maybe. How long is it? 40? 80, 90, 2,000? I don't know. It's-- I don't want to hurt anybody's head. Is it just 30 years-- We don't need you to-- we don't need to do math. That's too hard right now. But that means that-- and you're going to-- Long time. So you're doing another one, right? Well, we're trying. Yeah, we're trying. Yes. Well-- We've got people writing it hopefully. Oh, good. Yeah. Good. That's fantastic. So you just celebrated a birthday. You're-- 81. 81? I'm 81. I thought it was 80. No. That was last year. Yeah. She had a big fundraiser last year. And then you're about to celebrate your 80th. Yeah. And are you going to do a big thing also like-- Well, I don't know if I want to make such a fuss. I'm probably going to fly 50, 60 close friends to Morocco, something like that, and then sell the pictures worldwide. Wow. I hope you can come because-- Oh, I will. --you being in the picture makes the money better. Yeah. Yeah. You seem like that person that would sell pictures at parties. Yeah. Now will you have a party? Will you have a big party? It's a big-- it's an occasion. It should be but I don't want it to be a big occasion. Maybe when I'm 110. I see. That would be, like, worth having a big party. It would. Yeah, I'd come to that. Right. If you had any friends left. Well, if you even would remember the party. That's the thing. So-- Yes. --you married your partner, Jane, how long ago, five years ago? Well-- You've been together 50 years, so-- Yeah. --you waited a long time to get married. We did. Yeah. Well it wasn't allowed, you know. Well, it's been allowed for 10 years because I've been married 10 years. 10-- not 10 years? Yeah, we've been together 15 and married 10. We got married right when it was legal. Well, we're like a little slugger-- You waited. Yeah, right. So you've been together 50 years. And will she surprise you with a-- does she know you well enough to-- (LAUGHING) Does she know her well enough-- --not surprise you or surprise you? --after 50 years. No, I like it. I would like a surprise. I would like surprise if I didn't have to have anything to do with the choices. Yeah. All right. Well, then good. Maybe somebody will surprise you. Like, when you planned your things, anything you planned, did you plan them? No. No? Good. No. Did Portia? Portia did. Portia did. The last one, the big one that-- yeah. She planned that whole thing. What's going on, Jane? I'm just thinking. I see. I see. So Lily, I was talking about the Time magazine. And I heard that Time magazine approached you in 1975 to come out and put you on the cover of Time magazine. Right. And, first of all, how did they know you were gay? And then, second of all-- well, I don't know-- and then why did you say no? Well, I found out they had wired my bedroom. I see. I just want to warn all of you. Be careful with those Macs. Macs? The Mac. You know, a Macintosh. Isn't that what they were in those days? Yeah. Anyway, no, they did. Pat Kingsley called me, who was my publicist. Oh, god, do I love her. She told me that Time would give me the cover if I would come out. I don't-- it was a hard decision to make. Yeah. And so I fell down on the side of probably, after what you went through, probably good sense. And, my god-- Yes. --all that time passed but-- so I decided that I just wasn't going to play their game. Yeah. And-- You weren't ready. You didn't want to do it yet. No. Well, and I wanted to be acknowledged for my performance. Right. Sure. Sure. I can see, in retrospect, that was hardly worth it. Yeah. So anyway, that's what happened. All right. Anyway, and they did. They got a nice service person-- Yeah. --like, from the Army-- Yeah. --or something to be on the cover. So Jane, I understand I have to ask you about your dating life right now, because I'm interested in it. I'm going to come out. Yeah. No. If they put me on the cover of Time, I'll come out. Really? Let's see if they'll do it then. I mean-- Yeah. --so you'll just-- Well, it's kind of past the time of the value of a Time cover. Yeah? I mean if you're asking my advice. I love you both so much.
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Keywords: lily tomlin, coming out, time magazine, 9 to 5, sequel, jane fonda, ellen degeneres, the ellen degeneres show, ellentube, season 16, season 16 episode 81, ellen, degeneres, the ellen show, ellen fans, ellen tickets, ellen audience, new, lily, tomlin, best friends, jane, fonda, netflix, grace and frankie, tv show, 80, dolly parton, gay, lesbian, lgbtq, lgbt, 1975, time, 80th birthday
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Length: 6min 29sec (389 seconds)
Published: Tue Jan 15 2019
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