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in the area of (indistinct) - [Reggie] America, 2016. (sirens wail) - [Dispatch] She heard
approximately 50 shots fired in the area. - [Reggie] A country
that's become increasingly plagued by gun violence, and allegations of police brutality, (sirens wail) forces that are tearing the country apart. One of the worst
afflicted places, Chicago, America's third city,
and President Obama's adopted hometown. - [Radio Presenter]
There have already been over 350 homicides in Chicago this year. - [Reggie] Gun violence in the city is spiraling out of control, while controversy rages
over police shootings. - [Dispatch] There's a person
down, our ticket says male. - [Reggie] And the majority of victims, young black men and women. As Chicago struggles to
cope with the carnage, the question is, who is responsible? - They have no respect for our humanity. Those of us who have
been kissed by the sun, there appears to be a target on our backs. The police are killing
our women and children, the police are killing
our women and children. - [Reggie] The Chicago Police
Department is under siege. Here and across the US,
outrage at black deaths at the hands of cops is at boiling point. In 2015, 306 African-Americans were killed by Police in America, eight in Chicago alone. - We want the city to
know that we come together as a community, we're against
neighborhood violence, we're against police violence, in any shape, form or fashion. And we come today to make
that be known to the city. - [Reggie] The monthly
police review board, a chance for citizens
to air their grievances. It's fairly obvious that people
are not only impassioned, but also personally connected
to the issues at hand. This isn't a group of weekend warriors, this is a group of people who
have been personally affected by an issue that is being
discussed by the entire country. - The Chicago Police,
they do not get to be judge, jury and executioner
of our children. - [Woman] That's right. - [Man] Let's wrap this up. Eh look we gotta go in the board meeting, they say 7:30 on the docket. (audience applaud) - My son's supposed to
be here, right now today. But instead he's laying
up at Mount Hope Cemetery. - [Woman] And y'all no give
no fuck, because he wasn't there one of y'all kids. He wasn't no kids who you
are, y'all don't care. (audience applaud) (audience cheer) - [Woman] Mr. Russel, Mr. Russel. - At every board meeting we
go through the same thing, but no solutions ever come
out of it, that's the problem. - Has there been any change in your experience?
- No, - Nothing?
- No not yet. And when you grow up
in these neighborhoods, when you see the police culture, when you witness it first hand, when you get pulled over for no reason, when you see people getting shot, when you see our neighborhoods looking like third-world countries and no resources, no opportunities,
no jobs, it's regular. It's nothing, you know,
you live in it so long, there is no hope, so. - [Man] I'm going to make
my comment on my knees, although I bow before no man. Because it was on bended knee, that Latisha Jones, she
laid, she was on her knees in a puddle of blood, holding her mother as she took her last breath, after Officer Rialmo blew
a hole through her chest. And Latisha Jones cried out
to the Chicago police officer, "Why did you do this to my mother?" And the police officer response was, "Your mother's dead, get over it." (audience applaud) I'm down on my knees for the police. - [Crowd] We want
justice, we want justice, we want justice, we want justice. - [Man] Hey, what do we want? - [Crowd] Justice. - [Man] When do we want it? - [Crowd] Now! - [Man] What do we want? - [Crowd] Justice! - [Man] When do we want it? - [Crowd] Now! - [Man] What do we want? - [Crowd] Justice! - [Man] When do we want it? - [Crowd] Now! - What do we want? - [Crowd] Justice! - When do we want it? - [Crowd] Now! - What do we want? - [Crowd] Justice! (somber music) - I don't know if I've really
emotionally prepared myself for what's gonna happen while I'm here, because as a black man, when
you look around the room, and you see people that look
just like your family members telling stories about horrific
interactions with the police, I have no choice, but to
imagine my mother's face or my aunty's, or my
grandfather's, or my grandmother's. And then suddenly it
becomes so much more real. Chicago Police killed nine people in 2015, all but one were black. (sirens wail) African-Americans account for a third of the city's 3 million residents. They mainly live in the
south and west of the city, areas that have some of the
highest levels of poverty. Areas like Gresham, where in
2013, Preacher Katherine Brown, a volunteer working to
improve relationships with the police was driving
home with her two children. How old are your children? - One years old and eight years old. We were getting ready to
come into our driveway, here at this house. The police and I, we met bumper to bumper. The passenger jumps
out of the car and say, "Bitch, move that f'ing car back." And begin to come over
towards me in a rage. So immediately when we heard the B, my daughter began to scream
at the top of her lungs and it scared me. I locked the door, left the window up, and just grabbed my phone
to dial nine one, one. I am at my house trying
to go to my driveway, and the police is right
here threatening me and my children. The one that was standing
in-front of me pulls his gun. I said, "What the F are you reaching for?" And I'm thinking, "Aw,
they're gonna try to kill me." And the only thing I could think of, "You better get you and
your kids to safety." So I put that car in reverse
and I went as fast as I can out of that alley,
trying to go on the front to get witnesses. I said, "If they kill me,
they ain't going to kill me and my kids in this alley, they gonna kill us in front of everybody." I have my children in
the car and this officer (child screaming indistinctly) Don't worry. - Oh my God, she's crashed into you. - Absolutely. And you know it's me and my
two little babies in the car. (indistinct screaming) Here I'm asking for
help, see her come look. (indistinct screaming) Here's she's just spraying. - Spraying the baby? - And he's laughing about that. (indistinct screaming) - [Reggie] They've just
thrown you off the bonnet onto the floor there, right? - And they dragged me across
the car, it was unbelievable. - When you talk to your
children about it now, particularly the eight year old, what does she say about
what happened to you all? - She wants to move out of Chicago, she hates Chicago, and
she's afraid of the police. - Well, the last people
you should be scared of are the police, they're
there to protect you. - You would think so, especially
the type of person I was in the community, I was
a volunteer and liaison between the community and police, to bring unity and support,
try to help both sides understand one another and get along. But in that role, I get
treated like nothing. - [Reggie] Following the incident, Catherine was prosecuted on charges including aggravated battery, assault, and two counts of attempted murder. She was found guilty of reckless conduct, all other charges were dropped. (somber music) Cases of police brutality
have been hogging the headlines in Chicago. And after an official request,
the Chicago Police Department declined to take part in this film. But there might just be a way in. (motorcycle engines rumble) Across town, in a white area of the city, some bikers are gathering. But these aren't Hell's Angels, they're off duty cops and supporters. I'm not gonna pretend
that as a young black man growing up in London, I've
had the best experiences with the police, because I haven't. I've done all right for myself
since I was quite young, and when you're a teenager
driving a nice car in London, and you happen to be
black, things aren't fun. So my experiences with the
police aren't brilliant. So going into this, I don't
feel massively comfortable, I don't feel that I'm going
to be particularly welcomed, and I'm a little paranoid if I'm honest. This is where my nerves
go up to 10 at the moment. Kind of outnumbered. Hello. - How you doin'?
- How you doin', sir, you all right? Nice to meet you, this
is a pretty impressive set of wheels you got here. - Thank you, well I'm a
Wild Pig, which is a 100% police motorcycle club. - [Reggie] Just how safe is it
policing a city like Chicago? - It depends on the area you're in. I mean, it's got its dangerous areas. I mean, anywhere in
any part of the nation, being a police officer's dangerous. - [Reggie] Of course. - You know, we all do the same job, there's bad guys everywhere, you never know who you're pulling over. A lot of people criticize us, especially what's happened
with the shootings that have happened here in Chicago, the police involved shootings. - Hey, incredible, how you doing, man? How you doing? - No recording please, no recording? - [Reggie] That's okay, how you doing? - [Man] Who's in charge
here with you guys? - Well we're a team, yeah
nice to meet you guys. So we've been here for
about three or four minutes, and were quite quickly approached
by a couple of officers, who've asked us to stop shooting, and establish our reasons
for being here now. We've been allowed to continue shooting because the guys are
aware that we are trying to get their story and their experiences as to what it is to police
a city like Chicago. But we've also been asked to stay away from some of the more
sensitive subject matter, such as police brutality and the things that might've come up in the press. The event is a memorial for
cops killed in the line of duty. In the last 10 years, nine
Chicago police officers have been fatally shot. Sandy Wright's father, a cop, was shot and killed
while working in Gresham - He was actually just
got offline off of work, and he saw some kids
out in front of a store where he used to patrol, and he was talking to
one of the gang bangers, and telling 'em them to disperse. And two kids who were
at a funeral that day, seeking vengeance on another gang banger, went to shoot the kid next to my dad, but they ended up shooting my dad. So my dad was six foot three, white, and Gresham's all black. So it's so devastating that
it rips families apart, because it's so tragic, it's
not like they were sick, they went to work, and you just expect that they're gonna come home. - Do you think that the police
have been misrepresented by the news and by the media over here? - They don't go to work saying, "Today, I think I'm
going to shoot somebody." That's the last thing
that they want to do, but it's so violent now, and no one's really supporting them. They only show portions
of what actually happened, they don't show you that that
kid was a career criminal, and eventually they would have died, if not by the police's hands, by their own kind, the gang bangers. So it's not the police, the
police are out-gunned right now. - [Man] The prayer is our father, we hear the news, we see their pictures. - Correctional officer, Adam Conrad, Sergeant Jason Goodley,
Deputy Sheriff Derek Year, Trooper Sean E Colon,
Officer Nathan Taylor, Police Officer Gerald Wright, Chicago PD. (somber music) - [Man] So at this time I
wanna thank her and everyone, at this time I would like
to release the balloons in honor of those who fall. (motorcycle engines rumble) - It really does feel as though there are people dying on
both sides of this argument, this debate, whatever you wanna call it. And I think the problem
is that everybody feels like they're the victim of this situation. And I don't think enough
people are actually asking, "Well, what role do we
play in the problem?" (gentle music) Police brutality in Chicago
might be in the spotlight, but there's a much bigger problem when it comes to the overall number of shootings in the city. Last year, 23 people were
shot by police, nine fatally. At the same time, there were almost 2,500 black on black shootings, of
which over 350 were fatal. - [Radio Presenter] In
Chicago, over the weekend eight were killed, 55 were wounded. - [Radio Presenter] These are numbers that sound like a war zone,
like Afghanistan or Syria. - [Reggie] Most of the shootings
are in the African-American areas of the city, the
majority of the victims are young black men. With someone shot on
average every two hours, the daily news in Chicago is
full of stories of gun crime I'm trying to find a gentleman
by the name of Peter, now he is a journalist. He goes out searching for the story, and the stories that he's searching for are the stories of gun crime,
the stories of violence, and generally the sort of thing that you don't go looking for, and he's the journalist who does. I think this is Peter now. Peter
- Hey. - How's it going?
- Good, how are you? - Very good, thank you, very good. So what's your night looking like then? Do you know what you're
about to get yourself into at any time? - No, so we're just
gonna listen to scanners and see what happens. Cell phones, you know, Twitter, find out a lot of stuff on Twitter. - All right, so you're
basically using things that just anybody can get their hands on. - Yeah, it's just a little handheld radio. - [Reggie] Okay, so what channels are you plugged into here,
is it police channels? - Yeah, there's fire too,
we can listen to that. - Is that legal?
- Yeah. - You're allowed to just-
- It doesn't transmit, it's over public airwaves. So what we do is we listen for shootings, and it's plain English, they
don't speak in 10 codes, like they do on TV too much. So they'll say like, "We
got a call of a person shot, person with a gun," or gang
disturbance, whatever it is. And we just listen for what's going on, and if something happens we'll go to it. - Well, I guess I'm
rolling with you tonight. - All right.
- Shall we make a move? - Yeah, let's go. (sirens wail) - [Reggie] Chicago has
some of the strictest firearm laws in America, there are no gun shops in the city, and yet in 2015, police
seized over 6,000 illegal guns smuggled in from neighboring states. - [Policeman] Shots fired, shots fired. Squad, just get an
ambulance over here, squad. - [Reggie] So I've been with
you for all of two minutes, and there's already shots fired. - [Peter] Yeah. - [Dispatch] We have
fire rolling over there, we've got numerous
calls of a fire rolling. - [Reggie] What does fire rolling mean? - [Peter] It means they're
sending paramedics. So that's police getting
to where they got to go to. - [Reggie] Are we going to
the same place as that car? - [Peter] Yeah. - [Dispatch] 6-10, how
many people do you have, how many GSWs do you have over there? - [Peter] She's saying how
many GSWs do you have over. - [Policeman] There's only
one person shot right now. - [Peter] Because the first
calls were saying people shot, there's people shot in the alley. (sirens wail) I can't tell if there's
more coming up behind them. And there's been shots fired
across there all night, so. - [Reggie] There's a lot of officers. - [Peter] There is. (harrowing music) - [Reggie] By the time we arrive, the victim has already
been rushed to hospital in critical condition. All that's left at the scene are cops, and they're not talking. There's no way of knowing
what actually went down here. (train rumbles) This is clearly a shady bit of town, and if something shady was gonna happen, I mean this is a perfect place for it. I think we might now be in a, am I now officially in a crime scene? - [Policeman] We're just gonna
make it a little further. - [Reggie] Oh right, I see. And so it looks like like a lot of the offices
have started to to leave. - So, all they have right now
is that this kid got shot. - Man, and just like
that, they're all gone. - [Peter] Yeah. - I mean no one's here,
we're the last ones here and it's been five minutes. - Right, right, it's still really fresh, I don't think they have the
kid's DOB yet, so I dunno. - [Reggie] Would you expect
there to be some sort of retaliation tonight? - It doesn't always happen that quick. Sometimes it does, but it's not regular, it's not something you can bank on. You can, I mean you can
probably bank on retaliation, but not necessarily tonight,
because they've long memories. - Yeah. Anything on the scanner? (somber music) - [Dispatch] (indistinct)
fifty shots fired in the area. - [Policewoman] A person
down, but our ticket says, "Male, head is busted." I'm gonna roll it. - [Reggie] News came in over the scanner that the victim of the
shooting died at the hospital, a young black man, just 18 years old. How is the way you see the city changed? Because your mental map is
littered with crime scenes. - Yeah. - And instances of people
being involved in violence. I mean, do you see the
city in the same way? - You know blocks by
shootings and gunshot victims, or you know pockets of a neighborhood by what groups are into
it with each other. You can't let violence define a location. I've been trying to make
a conscious decision of going to places that have
been for shootings and stuff when other stuff is going on. - Are you ever really able to switch off? - I'd like to slow down
maybe a little bit, but we're at 1,400
gunshot victims this year. And every Monday everybody's like, "Damn, that was a bad weekend." No, it was just a weekend, you expect three dozen people to get shot. It wasn't a bad weekend by city standards, that was a normal weekend
by city standards. I dunno, it's hard to feel a difference between three dozen gunshot victims and four dozen gunshot victims. You can only get to so many shootings and it's hard that at a certain
point, busy is just busy. If somebody said, "Well no, I think things are getting better, it feels
like it's getting better," I would ask for evidence to support that, and there's
not evidence to support that, more people are getting shot. I mean more people are getting murdered, it just keeps happening. Like whose responsibility is
it when it comes down to it at the end of the day, right? You talk about like, well,
shootings keep happening, and yeah, I recognize that I have probably a more bleak outlook than a lot of people, but when you start looking
for like solutions, or even if you could look
to assign responsibility, where do you begin? (rain pattering) (suspenseful music) - So it is 25th of May, and
according to this website, there's been 54 homicides this month, and the month isn't even over yet, there's still six days left of May, and 54 people have been killed. But the slightly scarier stat here is that this month, on the 25th of May, in 25 days, 252 people
have been shot and wounded, 54 killed. I mean, the numbers are so
unreal it doesn't feel real, and it's quite hard to have
a natural reaction to that, because it just doesn't,
it doesn't compute for me. (rain pattering) - [Spencer] Hi, I'm Spencer Leak Jr. In 1933, with the help of God, my grandparents, Reverend
and Mrs. A. R. Leak founded the A. R. Leak Funeral Homes. We would like to thank all of Chicago for 75 years of your trust and support. - [Reggie] Behind every statistic, every killing, there's a story. And many of them end here. Hello. - Hey, how are you? - [Reggie] Hey, I'm very good thank you, Reggie, nice to meet you. - Reggie, hi Reggie, Taclosa Nijra. - [Reggie] Lovely to meet you, Nijra. I didn't know what to expect on the other side of this door, and these are bodies
that are waiting to be- - Dressed, casket and cosmetized. - Okay, are they- - So they've already been embalmed. - [Reggie] I didn't think that I would see this many bodies. I don't imagine that all of these bodies are victims of gunshots, but I'm sure a few of them are. - Yes.
- How many gunshot wounds are you seeing come through your door? - Every other day, we'll
have somebody in here from the medical exam
room who's been shot. And it's not just pow, it's
multiple gun shot wounds. So, when you see them coming in here, you see their body, you take 'em and put 'em on a table,
you finally open up the bag and you really don't know
what's gonna hit you. And then when you see all
these holes just everywhere, and violence is just so in your face. It's raw and you have to deal with this, and a lot of questions are
going through your head, like why, what could this
person possibly have done to get you so angry, or get
who those individuals are, so angry to wanna cause this much harm that they wanna see them dead? And I have a three year old, I
do have a three year old boy, and my concern is I don't wanna see him wind up on this table and it's me opening this bag up, and here's
my son, just from violence. And it may not have been
for him being in a gang, he just could have been
on the wrong side of town, and they decided, "You
know what, let's just take our frustrations out on him." (somber music) - Death is a strange thing to somebody of my age, because I'm in my early 30s now, as more and more my friends
are losing their grandparents, or losing their parents. And to be here, and to
be surrounded by death, and to be surrounded by stats and numbers that sort of talk about people dying, it's just that, it's
stats and conversation until you actually see a body. Is it all right if I
take a minute outside, is that all right? Most of those killed in Chicago
are under the age of 30. Parents in the south side of the city live with the fear that their children might not live to see adulthood. 20 year old activist, Jamal Greene, one of the protesters at
the police review board, is performing at a community peace event. - And we must get to a point where we are getting
them to commit to change. His girlfriend, Yanni,
and young son, Jamal Jr, are in the crowd. - Hey! - [Reggie] Hello. Look at his little face, he's
a happy little guy, isn't he? - Very, that's all he does,
- Yeah. - Is play and smile, so yeah. (baby squeals) I know you wanna talk,
man, but wait on your turn. - Just how important is
it then to get it right in-terms of raising
little shouty over here? - Oh, very important. One thing that we see is
that we lack male leaders in the communities, and
so it's been a blessing to have a boy that I can raise up, that can hopefully have his family of his own and take back his community, and take back his family at one point. - So for you, what was it like when you knew that you were having a boy? Obviously you were excited to begin with, but what about the realities
of that, growing up here? - We're still trying
to run away from here. It's like you can't send him to the park, you can't go to the park
in certain neighborhoods, you can't, in certain things
you're limited in this city about what you can do with
your kids, and it's sad. - I always vowed to raise
my kids outside of the city, and I vowed that because I said, "If I can survive Chicago, I wanna give my kids, my
family a better life." - You have to survive.
- You have to survive. You gotta survive, and that's
the case with everybody, with the drug goes, the gang bangers. With everybody, everybody's
trying to survive, they're trying to survive
through the systemic conditions. But then they're a menace to society, and we're trying to
survive not being killed. And everybody in Chicago
is in survival mode. - They're worried about their household, and every dollar you make is
a dollar that I don't make. So in order for me to
make that dollar back, I have to kill you to ensure
that I have that profit. And he talked about conditions, and it's because of the conditions, the mayor just shutdown 50
schools on the South Side, but they just did a grant
to build a new school somewhere up north, I just
read it in a newspaper a couple of days ago. But they say we didn't have
enough money for schools. (baby babbles) And then it goes to the
question of who's schools? Because we keep saying Chicago, but there are two different Chicagos. There's our Chicago and
then there's the Chicago that people see when they
are here as a tourist. There are just certain neighborhoods that we just don't touch,
and we don't go into. And the same neighborhoods
that we don't touch are the only neighborhoods that the city actually puts money into
and puts growth into. They have someone who
can go and put stores in their neighborhoods
and give their kids jobs. We don't have that, which is
why a lot of these parents are letting their kids
go out and sell drugs, because that's the only way
they can keep their lights on. (somber music) - [Dispatch] Shots fired on the block. - [Policeman] He's a
lifeless body at location. - [News Reader] 22 year old Lee McCullum was shot and killed last night. - [News Reader] After a
troubled period in his teens, Lee ended on top, he was
an honor roll student, was crowned as Prom King, and was looking forward to college. - [Reggie] An average week
at the Leak Funeral Home will see the staff bury two
or three gunshot victims. (somber music) Lee McCullum Jr was murdered on 12th May, making him the 29th
person killed that month. Lee had been found in his mother's car, with multiple gunshot wounds to the head. Among the mourners is Michael, a family friend who acted
as a mentor to Lee Jr. - 'Cause all he wanted
to do was play ball, that's all he wanted to do was play ball. He wanted to play ball
and he was good at it. - For someone that is on the right path, I'm just really struggling to understand how this can happen to him. - It's other people, this idiot, it's people that have a lack of education, a lack of respect for human lives. It's the lack of fathers,
it's the lack of men standing up and being men to their child. Mostly uncles and fathers are in prison. And I'm being real honest with you, until we as black men stand up and be men to our wives, our
girlfriends, our baby mamas, making an effort until they start seeing what a real man is, they're
gonna do what they gotta do. - Why have the family come in white? - Respect, respect to
know that he was an angel. - Son, as you leave this world, you will be missed,
no-matter where you go, I want you to know your father loves you. If I could've, I would give my life in order to have yours back. I just wish whoever did this, I'm gonna pray for you in
a different type of way. (mourners applaud) To all those players out
there and everything, man, fall back, 'cause I
can't do no more funerals. (mourners applaud) - I thought it was gonna be easy for me to say what I wanna say, so just bare with me. That don't 'sposed to be,
that don't 'sposed to be. Ain't no way in the
world that 'sposed to be. I been out here in these
streets all my life, shooting, gang banging, I got 21 years of festering in prison,
I've been left for dead those were the darkest days. That don't 'sposed to be. That 'sposed to be me. This don't make you no man, this don't make you no chief, this don't make you tough. These make you tough being a man, be a man, be a man.
(mourners applaud) - [Reggie] It was amazing
to hear you speak. - Oh man, that was just
the tip of the iceberg. I got a couple of people over here, we got worried that they're gonna try to do some more harm for team. But we all know how to act. - [Reggie] When? - Today - [Reggie] And what is
it that might happen, what are we talking about here? - Shoot at a car, somebody shoot at a car, or do something, or try
to crash it up, anything. (sirens wail) - Well that's heartbreaking, after everything that
we've witnessed today, all of those amazing
speeches that we're given and statements that were made, it feels as though there
are a lot of people that are so heartbroken by
what has happened to Lee, that they feel the need
to do something about it, with the same level of force that put Lee in a coffin in the first place. (somber music) Two weeks after Lee's murder, there have been no retaliation attacks, but no arrests has been made either. Lee was the 221st person
fatally shot in Chicago in 2016. He was the 154th African-American killed. Hey Mike, how you doing man? - [Mike] What up. - I'm good thank you,
where should I put the car? Just down there by the tree. - Okay, cool. His grieving father, Lee, Sr, and his friend Michael have agreed to talk about their loss and the young man he was. - He was enthusiastic, free spirit, easy going, loved life,
and Lee loved basketball. All of us got trophies, he
always tried to out-do me. - [Reggie] Can I see his trophies? - Yeah, you sure can, no problem. - [Reggie] So what happened to your leg? - I was breaking up a fight, I got shot, they had to amputate my leg. Wasn't doing nothing,
wasn't bothering nobody, got into a fight, breaking
up a fight with my nephew. - And they amputated your leg? - Yeah, because I got shot there, they lost circulation. I also got shot in the head in 2008, picking my son up from a
Halloween party, right here. I wasn't doing nothing,
somebody was shooting at somebody else, I turned
the corner, caught a bullet. - You don't even seem angry about it, are you, or have you just got past the anger?
- I was angry, angry about my son. That's what I'm angry about, my son. (somber music) Now this is the one, basketball yeah, but I was cross country, 'cause I told him he could do it. I said you got the stamina to
run up and down that court, you could win cross country. - Yeah. - Never trained for it
or nothing, and won it. - Wow. So with him being so
naturally gifted at sports, do you think that that could've
been a part of his future? - Yeah, yeah, yes, yes. He gone, and none of them
dreams can be fulfilled. I got a little grandbaby
I gotta take care of. And I'm gonna miss him so much. It just hurts that he gone. And I feel like I failed him,
because he lost his life. - It hurt, it's gonna always hurt. It's gonna always hurt, and
I'm just tryin' to change some of the stuff that's going on, 'cause I can actually say,
and go on camera and tell you that Lee Sr and senior are good parents, good fathers, role models. They ain't been the best, but you gotta do what you got to do for your chow. - I just wish I was there, he coulda called me or anything, 'cause I don't know what
his last moments were, was he still alive when he
was laying on the ground. None of that. - The last thing you want is retaliation on your son's behalf, but you can't stop these kids from doing something, you can only tell what you'd like. - No you can't, you can't, you can't, see you just hope and pray
that no retaliation happens. You let the police do
what they need to do. Let them do the investigating, let they do what they gotta do. - [Reggie] So you think the kids won't listen to you, Lee's friends? - I hope they listen, but if they don't, that's the road they got to go down. - [Reggie] So how has the
violence got to this level? - But you got so much going
on, it ain't just one issue. It's not no one issue. Fire the police problem,
ain't no trust there, ain't no trust with
Chicago Police Department. It ain't no trust there, they done hurt the black community so bad, you can't put a bandaid on that. - [Reggie] What's wrong with the system do you think, Mike? - It's broke, it always been broke. You can't fix something that's broke, you got to replace it,
it's over, it's broke. Ain't nothing you can
do, people don't know what hit is, but it's the truth. Well there ain't no more
colleges, ain't no more money, ain't no more money for nothing. I don't know who got the money, who took the money, but ain't
no more money for nothing. You can look around,
people ain't got money, people depend on the government to help them out, but if
the government hurting you and making you do some things, then you got to go about
what you get from them 'cause you asking them for help. So it's the law of the
land or the other man. We just pawns, we just pawns. Can't do nothing about that, somehow the system's broke, been broke. (somber music) - This place keeps throwing things at me that I'm not prepared for. Just before I left the house, Lee Sn showed me a picture of Lee Jr on the, I don't even
know what you call it, the autopsy table, the doctor's table, I don't know what it is, because I've never had
to deal with anything like that before. But basically I was shown
a picture of his son riddled with bullet wounds. And the last picture he
showed me was his face, with a huge bullet wound here, here, and all manner of. (somber music) How do you protect that kid? If you live here and that's your boy riding around on some
girl's pink, girly bicycle, how do you ensure that
that kid stays safe? You can do as much as you want to, or as much as you are physically able, but if this is your block,
if this is your street, no-matter how much you
instill in that child, you still have to let 'em go to school, they still have to at
some point be outside of your watchful eye. Just because of where you live, that might be the reason why your child doesn't live to see adulthood. It's 'cause you let 'em go
to the shop on their own, or even worse, one of their friends is involved in something
they shouldn't be, or someone they go to class with is involved in something criminal. And by association they
either end up shot or worse. (somber music) You know, we're on a main street that has potholes all over it, and every other shop is closed down. There's a building over
there that's blocked up. This is a place that is
sending signals to kids that no one cares about this area, and I guess it sends the signal that no one really cares about you. So what does that lead to? If you're a child and you're continuously being told by everything
you're surrounded by that you don't matter, by
the time you're in your teens or early 20s, why are you
gonna care about your own life, let alone somebody else's? What hope is there for Chicago? In a city plagued by police brutality and the chaos of black on black violence, who will speak up for the next generation? - [Protestors] Stop the
violence, stop the violence, save our youth. A group of fathers, fraternity brothers, are taking to the streets of Englewood, where almost 250 people have
already been shot this year. - [Protestors] Stop the
violence, put the guns down, put the guns down, put the guns down, put the guns down, put the guns down, put the guns down, save
our youth, save our youth, save our youth, save our youth. Stop the violence, stop the
violence, save our youth, - It seems that that
everywhere the fraternity are going, they're
getting a reaction that, well it's kind of emotional really, you've got people in
cars honking their horns, shouting along. People are coming out to their windows and they're joining in. I guess it's a real simple message, and it seems to be resonating. - [Protestors] Stop the
violence, stop the violence, stop the violence, put the guns down, put the guns down, put the guns down, put the guns down, save our youth, save our youth, save our youth, save our youth. How old's your son? - Six years old. - What's his name? What's your name? - Tyce.
- Tyce, nice to meet you, little man. So what's it like bringing
up a boy in this environment? - I'm on top of everything. I keep him involved
with sports, activities, to raise him to be a man. - But he's only six years old. - He's only six years old. - Him being on a march like this sends what kind of message
to him, do you think? - Oh, it's gonna stick with
him for the rest of his life. - Yeah. - This message here, you can only imagine. You know things that you
experienced at six years old, you still remember. - Right. (protestors chant) - Now while we was walking,
while we was walking, approaching 67th Street,
a guy just got shot on 70 and (indistinct,) and it shows that we have to have a greater presence. Maybe they didn't hear
us, when we were saying, put the guns down, stop the violence, they didn't hear that, so we
gotta be louder next time, 'cause there's a brother on Lumens, fighting for his life right now. And we just walked past there. - We have to get ahead of the problem, that's the key, to get
ahead of the problem, get our youth while they're young, and cut the source off
that's feeding this violence in this community. All of us are here because
something was said, done for you to save your life and get you to this point. Do the same things that saved your life, do it for not just one kid, not just for two kids,
do it exponentially. And if each and every last one of us standing out her today do those things for more than just one kid, more than just your kid,
more than just your kid, well I don't have any
kids, you know, I'm sorry. - It's all right man. - [Reggie] The protest
is in honor of Mike, who lost his daughter,
Tiara to the gun violence. 23 years old, an innocent
young woman killed by a stray bullet. - I was at a funeral, because the kid that was in the casket had been shot
- What was his name? by black on black violence. - Lee.
- Lee McCullen? - That's correct. - [Mike] You wanna know something? That was the boyfriend of
my daughter that was killed. - Wow.
- Yes. - Yes.
- Wow. - [Mike] He was shot and
killed three weeks after her. - After her, after she passed. - People think it's not their problem, until that problem knocks on your door. See I work as, I work law
enforcement, Deputy Sheriff. - You're in the police force?
- I risk my life every day for the citizens in this city, and this county and this, everywhere. I risk my life daily, and I did everything that I thought was right
and possible to raise my daughter, to give her a chance, to shield her from the violence. Thinking, "Oh, my daughter,
she went to college, she's got her life together, she doesn't have worry about the violence that's happening in here," but it still touched my door. And I tell people all the time, it's gonna touch your door if you don't get up and do something. It will, it will get to you. Sooner or later, it's
gonna come to your door. - [Protestors] Put the guns
down, put the guns down, put the guns down, save
our youth, save our youth, save our youth, save our youth. Stop the violence, stop the violence, stop the violence, stop the violence, put the guns down, put the guns down, put the guns down, put the guns down, save our youth. (gentle music) - Tiara and Lee Junior were two young, connected lives lost out of hundreds on the streets of Chicago. Victims of the deadly combination of guns and depravation that's fueling
segregation and prejudice, tensions that are ripping
the country apart. I think in a city like Chicago, where you see that
separation and that division, not only in-terms of racial groups, but in-terms of wealth, that
you really start to understand what America is really all about. The realization is that for many, the American dream is
now just about survival. To be in Chicago, particularly
here in the South Side, I think the toughest
thing to have, is hope. (somber music)
