Letters of Jesus Part 8 - Laodicea

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well here we are at a unique place called pamukkala that s'right in the middle of the earthquake zone in Turkey where these crust of the earth is very thin which means that rainwater filtering through the crust of the earth is dissolved tor is heated over heated by the molten rock underneath our feet and then it comes up boiling hot full of salts mainly calcium but potassium and other salts and you see the result behind me it's just covered this whole hillside with white crystals and there are little pools with people paddling in them now this water is piping hot here but it's channeled through an aqueduct over there right behind me is the place called Laodicea and by the time this boiling hot water full of salts reaches Laodicea it's lukewarm and then it goes into the meander River which goes out into the Aegean Sea at Ephesus and by that time it's cold now you can drink this kind of water when it's hot and you can drink it when it's freezing cold but you cannot drink it when it's lukewarm it acts like an emetic and it just makes you sick you just vomit it's supposed to be very healthy but you have to drink it hot or cold and this is the background to the letter to the church at Laodicea the rich town of Laodicea is so rich that when the emperor said I'll remit your taxes so you can rebuild the city after the earthquake they said no thank you we don't need help we don't rely on charity and I'm afraid that was their spiritual attitude - we're rich we don't need any thing from anyone including the Lord and so they're very self-sufficient let's read the letter way over in the distance in that direction is pamukkala from which we've just come where the hot springs were and the hot water by the time it reached here and the aqueduct was lukewarm and then it was cold by the time it got to the sea at Ephesus let's read the letter to the church to the Angel of the Church in Laodicea and once again I think we'll find that Jesus knew all about the city as well as about the church and this is what he says to them this is the message from the Armen the loyal and honest witness the ruler of the whole universe I know just what you're like you are neither freezing cold no piping hot I just wish you were either one or the other but you are tepid and look warm neither hot nor cold and this just makes me feel sick wanting to throw up you seem to think you are prospering for I hear you say I'm well off I've made a fortune I don't need a thing you don't seem able to see yourself as you really are poverty-stricken wretched blind naked a beggar if you are wise you'll buy what you really need from me pure gold that has been refined in a furnace able to make you truly rich and white garments to expose to hide your exposed shame and pointment for your inward eyes that will give you true insight I correct and discipline all those are love so don't resent my rebuke shake off your complacency and turn back to me look I'm standing right outside the door of your church knocking because I want to be back in among you and if just one member of your congregation here's what I'm saying and let's me in I will come back and sit down with him for a meal and he will share it with me anyone who does this now will be given the honor of sitting beside me on my throne later just as I myself won my battles and took my seat beside my father on his throne in heaven let everyone who hears these letters read take heed of what my spirit is communicating to all seven churches and once you've been here and seen that water and seen these ruins you begin to appreciate that letter in a new way Laodicea City 43 miles southeast of Philadelphia and the capital of the County of Phrygia romina sized town all the usual things like theater stadium etc within 10 miles of here a palace where the Apostle Philip was martyred and is buried and colossi founded by a Paris if you read Paul's letter to the Colossians he mentions Laodicea a number of times in that letter and clearly it was Paul's converts in Ephesus who went up the meander River or the road back by its side and reached this place and evangelized it so this could well have been the place evangelized by a Paris it was founded in 250 BC by the Greek Antiochus and named after his wife Laodicea three roads and two rivers made it again a trading center and this brought many Jews seven and a half thousand adult Jews in the census in 62 BC that's quite a large number the main industry was the clothing industry and the Jews of course have been an associated with the clothing and tailing industry wherever they've been I think they still have most of the fur coat shops in London but in Laodicea it was black woolen clothes there was a particular local breed of sheep with very fine soft wool that was jet black and very glossy and if you can imagine glossy black garments made of this very fine war they really were very special but like those old black coats you used to see with Astrakhan collars to remember those well it was not just the color it was the whole coat if you had a layered of seeing black garment then you were somebody and you obviously were very wealthy it was the equivalent of the modern fur coat the two main features for which it was noted our wealth and health and I've told you before these two things go together the wealthy those who are most concerned about money seem to be the most concerned about health because frankly if you don't have your health what is wealth any use you've got to have health and wealth together if that's what you're after a very affluent place it was the Center for banking and finance it was the city and in fact Cicero on his travelers travels changed his letters of credit here in the banks he records that to you and me he changed his traveler's checks here so it was a center for money it went through the earthquakes in AD seventeen and eighty sixty but again it did not want help from the Emperor no remitted taxes he offered it but they said no thanks we can look after ourselves and they refused help to rebuild we know that from Tacitus so they were very self-reliant people self-sufficient a lot of millionaires homes and therefore Laodicea teamed with beggars so you had this terrific contrast between the wealthy people in their Dossi black clothes walking past wretched beggars who moved into Laodicea hoping to get a few crumbs that fell from the tables as it were of the rich men there so you had a complete contrast streets lined with beggars wretched naked beggars and then the wealthy people who lived their health the local God they worship was the God men a Mian who is the God of healing and there was a medical school here with a hospital with a the most expensive treatments if you wanted Bupa you went to Laodicea if you wanted the best private health treatment this was the place you made for and they were famous for their aunt Minh spur fumes and medicines and especially for two famous medicines which you would only buy here they were a secret formula one was an ointment for sore ears people are having difficult with hearing and saw ears then you went to Laodicea to get ointment the other was for the eyes it came in the form of tablets and it was called the phrygian tablet and you you ground it up to powder and then dissolve that in water and then bathed your eyes with an ID less the tephra Phrygia if you couldn't see well now within sight of course of Laodicea and much nearer here Ovilus was this extraordinary cliff covered with carbonate the rainwater would filter through the cracks in the very thin crust of rocks in this area reached the molten red-hot Rock and boil and come back up dissolving everything in its wake and in fact when my wife and I lived in Arabia the our water came up through a natural deposit of epsom salts so we can sympathize with this and we could drink it as a hot drink to your coffee or we could put it in the fridge and drink it very cold but if you drank it when it was lukewarm it just made you sick it acted like an emetic and this was exactly so with this water it pie came piping hot out of the ground did you see the steam on the video it was too hot when it came out to put your hand him and each of the local hotels had a swimming pool filled with this hot water but you couldn't go up to the place where the water was coming into the pool it was too boiling hot but then the Romans built an aqueduct a sort of hollow pipe of stone right across the countryside to Laodicea and by the time it got there it was simply tepid and you didn't drink it in that state you could pass in and washing it and it's supposed to bring you all sorts of health and again on the video you probably saw it had a fountain amazing fountain with all these pipes going up and of course it fed by gravity it meant that as a great fountain of water at the top but when we got there and looked at it the pipes were just choked up with this white carbonate like your pipes go in a hard water area now this background of course is very significant for the letter it just explains what Jesus said today it's a tourist resort the Turks call it cotton castle and they sunbathe wonderful place to sunbathe because the Sun reflects underneath you from the the water and the white salt so you can get done on both sides without turning over but people mainly go there with rheumatism and other things and bathe in this sulfurous and calcium filled water well now moving on the church founded from Ephesus and mentioned in Colossians 4 different references and it says that Paul sent tychicus to this church and he hopes to send mark but there is one fascinating name in Scripture a man called onesimus came from here and Anissa mmus actually later we read of a pastor here called honest honest and I wonder if it's the same name same man actually the name means useful and Paul plays on that name in his letter to Philemon the owner of this slave from whom he'd run away to Rome and Paul sends him back but sends him with the letter because he knows his master Philemon is a Christian and he says receive him back as a brother he's been converted but it's right for him to come back and be your servant the lovely letter and he says you will find that he's not useless now he's useful again and the name is Ernie tzimmes so there are all sorts of little interesting things connected with this we know also from the Colossians letter that at Laodicea the church was meeting in a house at first of a lady called ninfa so we know quite a bit Paul wrote two letters one to colossi and one to Laodicea but unfortunately the one to Laodicea has been lost or has it it could be that he's referring to the letter we call Ephesians because as I told you the letter to the Ephesians some early copies don't have the word Ephesus at the beginning and it is a very general letter it doesn't deal with specific or local situations or problems so it could well have been a circular letter which went around these churches from Paul and if so that might be this letter to Laodicea that he's referring to otherwise if it was a letter only to them then we've lost it and we don't know what Paul thought of this church but we do know what Jesus thought of it they were apparently successful large congregations and collections they were prospering that's quite a common where the Christians use when discussing conditions prospering God is prospering us but was it God now how does Jesus describe himself this is in a sense that deepest and the most intense description of himself that Jesus gives in all these letters it's not drawn from chapter one the only ascription of himself that is not taken from that initial vision and he calls himself first they are men that's a favorite word on Jesus lips it's a word that we ought to be much more careful to use and confess to be intensely irritated when preachers use it as a question amen do you know what I mean sort of you agree with me amen is not a question it's the exact opposite it is an absolute affirmation it's same so be it that's true and if you say it at the end of a prayer you are saying I'm absolutely certain that will happen and I'm very careful about saying Amen in church to prayers especially when a long shopping list has been given to God of all the troubles around the entire world that's not intercession to me and so often we feel that's what we should do in church and give them a long shopping list of all the latest headlines of what's happening in Atlanta and what's happening in Belfast and what's happening and and then everybody says Amen and what they're really saying is all of that is going to be sorted out God's going to bring peace everywhere I just can't say Amen unless I really feel this faith in that prayer and that God is responding to that prayer and he's going to do it Jesus used it when he was speaking again and again he said amen amen we translated as verily verily or truly truly or honestly honestly but it means I'm telling you the absolute truth here this is real this is true this is fact so it's a word that I think we should just be careful to use Jesus is the Amen that's very similar to another title of Jesus which I love the title of yes Jesus is called yes he is the yes to every promise of God he's the Amen at the end of every promise God has made it Jesus has the guarantee that when God says he will do something he will do it Jesus is the Amen so strong word then he is also the faithful and true witness I had to see a solicitor last week was it this week no last week to swear an affidavit as an executor of a will we're a long discussion because I didn't want to swear in the Bible I wanted simply to make what's called a solemn affirmation that I will tell the truth because Jesus told us not to swear and he told us let your yes be yes and your no be no and that should be good enough for Christian but the solicitor who was a lovely Christian man who has helped us a great deal over the years he said well it's going to make it much more complicated I have to go back to the other solicitor up north and get this reworded I said ok ok give me the Bible and we sat opposite the desk I swore to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth but Christians shouldn't have to take an oath they should be known for people who if they say something they mean it they are to be like their Lord faithful and true witnesses telling the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth that's what he means he says that's what I'll tell you you see without truth there can be no justice every court case is an attempt to establish truth that's why swears witnesses in because you can only be fair to people if you know the whole truth you follow me and Jesus saying I'll be fair to you in what I'm writing because I am the true and faithful witness and then it says an unusual thing which I'm afraid has been again misunderstood he calls himself the beginning of God's creation now that's ambiguous it could mean one of two things and I'm afraid the Jehovah's Witnesses have made it mean one thing and I believe it means the other and not only the jehovah's witness did you remember my talking to you about Sorrento's a man who lived in ephesus well he was saying the same thing the beginning of God's creation the wrong way to interpret that is to say then Jesus was the first creature that God made the first being the best and the foremost but nevertheless he is on the creature side of reality rather than the Creator side but when you read the rest of the New Testament and read this wider context it is very clear that this phrase does not mean that the beginning of God's creation means the source of God's creation not the first creature but the creator himself here is another case of God and Jesus Christ being given the same title it's saying God created I'll never forget one opportunity I had to preach at an open-air meeting in Canada in a place where no open-air meetings had ever been held before it was forbidden below ha and it was a wonderful place to preach it was right in front of Niagara Falls and we got permission and the meeting was being televised through the whole of Canada and into parts of the United States there were three speakers myself first than a Roman Catholic priest in a pentacle Pentecostal pastor all of us enjoying the spirits fullness mentioned that because that's what brought us together and so I got up first and there were many thousands of people there and I said I'd like to tell you and pointing behind to where three million gallons of water thundered over that cataract every minute and I pointed that Ness that I know the men who made the Niagara Falls I said I met him when I was 17 and that side was that me but I said his name is Jesus and without him nothing was made that has been made and it's wonderful to know the men have made all the hotness and before he made chairs and tables he made the trees so he'd have some timber and before he preached the Sermon on the Mount he made the Mount so he had a pulpit now this is the truth he is the lagos he is the reason why and without him nothing was made that has been made this is a big Jesus when you look out there and see the wonders the trees and sky and the stars Jesus our Jesus had a hand in all that it's a big big Jesus here I'm the are men I'm the face on true witness and I'm the beginning of God's creation I was there well that's a pretty big suck under the jaw for them before they read on that's really a very magnified view of the Lord I love that word magnified means to get a big view magnify the Lord with me get a big view of some people you know the book Phillips wrote your God is too small I think one ought to be written your Jesus is too small we need a bigger view of our Lord Jesus Christ the beginning of God's creation well approval nothing there it is again nothing Sardis Laodicea nothing so we've got to move straight on there is no idolatry in the church there's no immorality in the church there's no mention of pagan persecution or Jewish hostile t-there having quite an easy time of it actually maybe that's the problem so what's wrong with Laodicean well there are three things I've written down that Jesus highlights three very serious charges about the state of any church it's almost a damning indictment of a church the first is they are insipid or in other words self-satisfied they're not indifferent but they're not excited they're not enthusiastic a memorable phrase here you are neither hot nor cold lukewarm Yorkshire we have a proverb neither mountainous summit and that just about sums it up now the one thing near the other now the words hot and cold and not just warm and cool they are literally boiling hot or freezing cold now that's an important point to notice boiling hot or freezing cold you're neither they are in between respectable satisfied complacent smug we're all good Christians here satisfied with things as they are have you noticed how often we use the word warm today we pride ourselves on being a warm fellowship we we give you a very warm welcome does that sort of talk made Jesus feel sick now what we should say is we give you a hot welcome here we preach a hot gospel here not likely to make us popular we'd rather be nice warm glow well why does Jesus have this reaction first of all his desire was that he would rather they were freezing cold or boiling hot you know I can understand why he would rather they were on fire for him but why this is the question we must grapple with why would he prefer freezing cold no temperature at all to warm at least warms better than cold isn't it it's on the way it's it's better than being freezing cold no he'd rather have God's frozen people why well there a number of reasons I've written down and you must take your pick I think I know which one I'd go for but first it is an insult to God God's not worth getting enthusiastic about the very word enthusiasm comes from the Greek word n for in and Theo's for God and enthusiasm is to be in God that's the origin of the word if you can't get excited about God and the gospel that's an insult to God and you know you can go to some churches where actually there's more animation as soon as the check the service is over than in the service and if you go to such a church and listen to the conversation they're not talking about God when they're excited talking about the football match yesterday or the picnic later or whatever or even the good weather if we are less animated about God than about everything else it's an insult isn't it that's one possible reason the next is that it's a church that is only just worn is pretty useless to the world it is not likely to get anybody else accepted about the gospel or about God it will simply carry on as it is a kind of religious clung it is enthusiasm that spreads the gospel it's that woe is me if I preach not the gospel or the love of Christ constrains me it's in fact the world gathers very quickly when the house is on fire my wife and I were in the country outside Guildford and we suddenly saw smoke through the trees as we were driving back and we went over and he was a mansion on fire and it was an empty deserted mansion nobody was there the astonishing thing was within 10 minutes there was the huge crowd all around it and it wasn't even near the town it was in the country where they seemed to be popping up from the grass when the house is on fire the world comes to look and see what's happening which is what happened on the day of Pentecost see but when there's just were a nice warm fellowship here who's gonna come and see what's going on but there is a third reason I believe this is the real reason you can do something about someone who's cold and you can do lots of things that people are hot but you can't do anything with people who are tepid because they're satisfied with what they've got you see what I mean and a tempered church is a hopeless situation you just can't get them going no we're alright we're fine we're warm fellowship here and they're satisfied and so Jesus expresses his disgust in a form that he has never used anywhere else in the New Testament he says lukewarm people make me sick they make me want to throw up to get rid of them to expel them to repudiate them they're not part of me it's a very vivid and the actual tense of the verb it says I am about to spew you out of my mouth I'm just on the verge of throwing you out of my body so there is strong and vivid statement and of course because of that lukewarm water which they drank at their peril they understood only too clearly interesting that the two churches the only two churches that Jesus threatens with closure are the two most southerly Ephesus in Laodicea and both for the same reason and both of which are furthest from Satan's throne in Pergamum they're not troubled by Satan because frankly Satan's said fine I don't need to bother with them I'll get after the live churches I can leave them there just cooling off anyway so it's only a matter of time to live alone so why should Satan bother with them there was a Christian gamekeeper on a big estate in Scotland and is the lead was not a Christian and was constantly teasing the gamekeeper about his faith and his belief in the Lord and above all his belief in a personal devil and they were out shooting ducks and the lead shot a duck it fell down he shot another and had only wounded that one it was fluttering and trying to fly away and the dogs set off after the dead duck to pick it up and bring it back and the lead was shouting no don't go after that one gaff the only one that's the one I want because it's still alive and the deer gamekeeper said to the Lord I can't imitate the Scottish action but the history was now I know why the devil doesn't trouble you he doesn't go after the dead dogs he only goes after the live ones I think there's a profound truth in that that's why I think the world doesn't believe in the devil and he doesn't need to bother them it's when you start trying to live the Christian life that you realize this an enemy who's troubled about the life well there's no trouble here from there just cool and Jesus is disgusted with you now that's the first thing that's wrong with them their insipid they are self-satisfied they don't want to be any hotter they don't want to go any further second they are independent or self-sufficient now we saw this in Silas we see it in here now they say I'm rich we need nothing you've got all the funds we need the collections are big enough they were prosperous and therefore they were proud too proud to accept help we need nothing thank you it's one of the tragedies of being rich that you don't need people's help and therefore become too proud to receive it it's humbling to receive help isn't it I remember going overseas once think to New Zealand and a dear old age pension earn our church and she shook hands with me at the door she said you're going to New Zealand aren't you she said here's a little something to buy yourself an ice cream and she gave me a parent you know and as all notes of thank you look I've got and I've got all I need I really couldn't take that because that's all she had a pensioner and she looked at me with anger she said it's more blessed to give them to receive and you must let some of us have the blessing sometime and she really rebuked me I felt lactic and I humbly took it you know when you've got enough you're gonna be too proud to seek help from somebody else there's a stiff neck it's different muscle in the back of our necks that we don't like to say I need help and Laodicea was like that worse they could well have fallen into the trap of thinking that prosperity was a proof that God was blessing them that's a very subtle trap look at our church budget we must be all right because God's blessed us with we can pay all our bills we don't need to appeal for money very subtle the third thing that was wrong with them they were ignorant would have put it another way they were self deceived they were living in unreality Jesus said I know what you like but the implication is you don't you have no idea of your real condition so there were self satisfied self sufficient and self deceived it's a tragic letter it says four things about the view bankrupt you're blind you're bare and your beggarly how about that for alliteration you're bankrupt despite all your bank balances you're paupers you've no treasure in heaven in fact you're the poorest in the city and you're blind now of course they got a lot of blind beggars they're hoping for a little gift to buy some of that I self that tephra Phrygia which would maybe cure that blindness your bear you're naked despite your fine clothes I remember that childhood fairy tale of the Emperor's New Clothes remember that when the Emperor proudly naked march through the streets and the little boys but he's got no clothes all the rest were self-deluded because the tailor who'd so-called made these invisible clothes said if you a wise man you can't see my clothes everybody was kidding themselves but the truth was he was naked and humiliated and in disgrace and Jesus says that's what you really like beggarly and the word means the poorest kind of beggars sitting on the streets a wretched beggar just saying can you spare a couple that's how Jesus saw them and of course his words could be bitterly resented by such a church they could be very cross abilities he hasn't he doesn't know the whole truth see he hasn't got it right they could have said that so immediately Jesus says now listen I only rebuke you because I love you he still loves them he still wants them as a church he still wants to keep them desperately he said it's my love that makes me say these things to you it's love that tells the truth he said I'm telling you the truth in love Hebrews 12 says as many as the Lord loves he disciplines and if you don't ever get a little spanked from the Lord you ought to rest as he still loved me because real love wants the best so his advice is everything you need you can get from me I can give you true riches true gold I can give you white raiment instead of your black glossy woolen overcoats and I can give you a remedy for your blindness fund enough he used as an interesting word he doesn't say con Bing he said you're our biggest but he says coming by without money of course without price but it's almost as if he's saying do business with me instead of everybody else do some business with me come to me it's a lesson down gently leaves them with a little of their pride maybe to say come and buy it but like Isaiah 55 says come and buy without money and without price but he says do you want me said that's the real issue I've got all your need to get you out of this situation but you want me and then comes this devastating revelation that he isn't inside their church he hasn't been attending services for a long time that he's outside the church door devastating to find out that Jesus has stopped attending your church that he's no longer part of it that he's outside the door the door is the door of the church now this of course is the verse that has been used for gospel preaching so much and it spoils conversion because it it gives you a wrong picture of Christ here's a little door in your heart and Jesus knocking will you open the little door and get your little Jesus inside there it reduces him to a little person who's knocking at a little door whereas actually the real fact is it's the sinner who has to knock and have it open to them and it's Jesus who is the door actually into the kingdom it's a very different thing we so often talk about Jesus in me or Jim as it has been called Jesus in me it's the wrong way around very very rarely only twice in the New Testament does it talk about Christ in us and it's us not me and it's Christ in all of us far more often the description of a Christian is someone who is in Christ hundreds of times it's not Jesus is in me but I'm in him he's the bigger one and I've come into him that's the right way around and furthermore if you use this in counseling as every little book that I've read on how to become a Christian uses it Jesus stands at the Doria heart and wants you to let him in patronising but everyone what was I going to say and forgot it now it's the thought he can't open it we have to open it and let him in but there's another thought I was trying to get hold of there in every one of these yes I know what it is it says all you need do to become a Christian is open the door whereas really if you want to become a Christian you've got to repent of your sins believe in Jesus be baptized in water and receive the Holy Spirit that's why I wrote a book called the normal Christian birth I've got a whole chapter on this verse that says don't use it in evangelism you're oversimplifying see if you just say to someone all you got to do is open the doors there's no repentance there there's no baptism there no receiving the Holy Spirit there it's just let Jesus into your life you'll never find the apostles talking the way that modern evangelists do you don't hear these phrases commit your life to Jesus invite him into your heart let him in a Savior you just don't hear them talk like that they say repent toward God and believe in the Lord Jesus and be baptized in water and receive the Holy Spirit those are the four steps into the kingdom in the New Testament well I've said enough but look at the text in its context it's addressed to the church that has lost Jesus and the glorious news is it only takes one member to get him back in he's waiting for just one person to say we miss you Jesus please come back in and he says if you'll do that I'll come in and we'll sit down and have a meal together we'll have two supper together supper was of course the main meal of the day in those days you had a sort of bit of bread and wine for breakfast and you had a snack at lunch but you came home and you sat down and had a leisurely meal in the evening and there's perhaps a sideways look at the Lord's Supper here fancy they were still having the Lord's Supper but the Lord wasn't there so it wasn't supper with him and I think he's almost saying if just one member of the Church invites me back in the next time they have bread and wine they will have communion with me and I'll be having communion with them and he said if you sit down with me in that church one day you can sit down with me on the throne of my father let me sit with you here and you can sit with me Hereafter so we've come to the promise and the assurance sit down with him later that would mean poverty to plenty and rags to riches and he says in all this you're just being called to follow me I overcame and sat down on the throne of my father and now you overcome and you can sit down on my throne with me Jesus never caused us to do anything he hasn't done himself first it doesn't just sit up in heaven say now you do that he says follow me I've already done it now you do it I've already overcome now you overcome I've already inherited the throne now you can inherit it that's what the Christian life is it's to follow Jesus it's to share in his sufferings and then his glory it's to walk the way of the cross and then the resurrection and the Ascension it is to follow in his steps that's all it is and isn't it lonely to follow a leader who's done everything first and gone through it first he says just do it the way I did it and this is how it'll all end up well if you go to Laodicea today one of the fascinating things is that in the middle of nowhere is a door the whole of layout of Seir is gone the city's gone it's just a hilltop the archaeologists haven't had a bite at it yet so most of it is buried on the turf you climb the hill and you see this vast stadium and then you see archways and you see the ruins of this fabulously wealthy city and then to hear where are you they went further afield there ran away when I was trying to get everybody back on the bus and they ran away over the hill and they saw this doorway standing by itself in this barren waste it's amazing how things left behind seem to underline the letter behold I stand at the door and knock If any man lets me in this is what will happen well frankly the application of that letter is very easy because we are in the wealthy West and all these things can happen to a church here without any persecution from outside without any opposition from Georgian tile we can just be tepid an insult God with half-hearted worshipped and half-hearted fellowship and half-hearted evangelism there's only one thing he wants and that's wholehearted disciples following him all the way
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