Leaked audio of principal allegedly admitting making white students feel 'less than'

>> Martha: LAUREN GREEN, THANKS VERY MUCH. JOINING ME NOW, THE ATTORNEY FOR PAUL ROSSI, SAMANTHA, VERY GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US TODAY. I WANT TO START BY PLAYING ANOTHER SOUND BITE FROM THIS LEAKED AUDIO TAPE, WHICH YOU PURPORT TO BE A CONVERSATION BETWEEN PAUL ROSSI AND GEORGE DAVISON WHO IS THE HEAD OF SCHOOL IS. THAT YOUR BELIEF? >> YES. ABSOLUTELY. >> Martha: HERE'S PART 2 OF IT. >> SO WE'RE DEMONIZING WHITE KIDS. WHY DON'T YOU JUST SAY IT? >> WE ARE USING LANGUAGE THAT MAKES THEM FEEL LESS THAN. FOR NOTHING THAT THEY ARE PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR. >> Martha: SO I'M CURIOUS, SAMANTHA, A, THE SCHOOL WILL NOT VERIFY THIS IS GEORGE DAVISON ON THE TAPE. DO YOU HAVE PROOF? >> THAT'S VERY INTERESTING. OTHER THAN MY CLIENT WOULD TESTIFY UNDER OATH THAT THAT IS THE MEETING THAT WHICH HAD TAKEN PLACE. WE HAVE THE FULL RECORDING. >> Martha: SO WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THAT RECORDING? THAT'S WHAT I'M CURIOUS? WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THAT CONVERSATION? HE'S SAYING YES, WE DO HAVE CURRICULUM THIS TEACHES WHITE KIDS THAT THEY ARE LESS THAN IS HIS WORDS. IS HE STICKING UP FOR THE CURRICULUM? HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THE CONVERSATION? >> I THINK IT WAS A FRANK CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE HEAD OF SCHOOL AND SOMEONE HE KNEW FELT A CERTAIN WAY ABOUT THIS CURRICULUM. I THINK WHAT IT SHOWS YOU AND WHAT I SEE EVERY DAY IN MY PRACTICE IS THAT THIS IDEOLOGY IS BEING SPREAD THROUGH FEAR. PEOPLE ARE TERRIFIED TO SPEAK OUT EVEN THOUGH THEY SEE PEOPLE BEING DIVIDED AND DEMEANED ON THE BASIS OF THEIR RACE. THEY KNOW IT'S WRONG. MANY, MANY, MANY PEOPLE KNOW IT'S WRONG. THEY'RE AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT FOR FEAR OF LOSING THEIR JOB AND FOR FEAR OF OF THEIR CHILD FACING REPERCUSSIONS IN THE SCHOOL. I THINK THE REAL TAKE-AWAY FROM THIS AUDIO IS THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN PEOPLE AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF THESE INSTITUTIONS HAVE DOUBTS ABOUT WHAT THIS IS DOING TO CHILDREN. BUT THEY'RE AFRAID TO SAY SO PUBLICLY. I THINK -- >> Martha: SO YOU THINK THE INTERPRETATION OF PAUL ROSSI, IN THIS CONVERSATION -- WE CAN ONLY CHARACTERIZE IT FROM WHAT HIS UNDERSTANDING WAS -- WOULD HE SAY THAT GEORGE DAVISON WAS SAYING, I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THIS EITHER BUT WE DON'T HAVE A CHASE? IS THAT AN ACCURATE CHARACTERIZATION FROM ROSSI'S POINT OF VIEW? >> I THINK HE'S SAYING THAT HE SHARING ROSSI'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE WAY THE CURRICULUM IS BEING IMPLEMENTED. NEITHER PAUL ROSSI -- PAUL ROSSI AGREES THAT RACISM IS A TERRIBLE THING. CHILDREN NEED TO TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT, DIGNITY AND FAIRNESS. VERY FEW REASONABLE PEOPLE WOULD DISAGREE ABOUT THAT. THIS IS REALLY A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THIS SHOULD BE TAUGHT IN THE SCHOOLS. THE CRITICAL RACE THEORY IDEOLOGY IS JUST ONE WAY TO APPROACH THIS. IT'S A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, MANY PEOPLE, PAUL ROSSI AND MYSELF INCLUDED, BELIEVE IS AN INCREDIBLY TOXIC AND DIVISIVE. WHAT WE SEE ON THIS AUDIO IS THAT THE HEAD OF THE SCHOOL SHARES SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. HE'S AFRAID TO SAY SO PUBLICLY. >> Martha: LET ME ASK YOU, SAMANTHA, IS IT TRUE, IS IT PAUL ROSSI'S UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WERE KIDS IN HIS CLASS THAT SAID I DON'T WANT TO BE IN HIS CLASS ANYMORE? I'M NOT COMFORTABLE IN HIS CLASS ANYMORE? IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED? >> THAT IS WHAT THE SCHOOL HAS SAID. YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE REASON THAT PAUL ROSSI SPEAK OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE, HE KNEW THERE WERE STUDENTS BECAUSE THE STUDENTS HAD COME TO HIM WHO WERE AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT. HE WANTED TO MODEL THAT IT'S POSSIBLE TO SPEAK OUT. SO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE STUDENTS THAT HAVE EXPRESSED DISAGREEMENT WITH WHAT PAUL ROSSI HAVE SAID, THERE'S STUDENTS THAT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS CURRICULUM AND FEEL AFRAID TO SHARE IT. THAT'S NOT JUST TRUE AT GRACE CHURCH BUT AROUND THE COUNTRY. WHAT IS HAPPENING AT GRACE CHURCH IS WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND THE COUNTRY. >> Martha: IT'S ABSOLUTELY BIGGER THAN THIS ONE SCHOOL. WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TALKING WITH US. IT'S ASTONISHING THIS IS A CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WHERE YOU CAN'T HAVE A COUPLE SIDES PRESENTED IN A CLASSROOM AND HAVE KIDS DEBATE IT. IT'S JUST REALLY ASTONISHING. THANK YOU VERY

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Length: 4min 34sec (274 seconds)

Published: Wed Apr 21 2021