Kurt Leland - Chakra Clairvoyance: Part 2

okay so first does anybody have any questions about the morning or about anything I've talked about with respect to clairvoyance before we go on you had mentioned a couple of different definitions for clairsentience and I would be interested in hearing what those are please okay so the question has to do with what is clear sentience the phrase itself would be a combination of clear plus sensing and I think of it as clearly sensing energy in any of its modes but it's interesting to pair that with mystics because mystics often consider themselves to be the high-end mighty of the spiritual hierarchy and clairsentience is sometimes considered to be the most basic or most elementary form of clairvoyance personally I think that case could be made for all inner sense impressions having to do with a quality of touch just like we use with the energy hands and in an interesting way that would parallel parallel the development of the body where all of our five senses may have eventually developed from the organ of the skin and therefore be related to a sense of touch or at least a sense of vibration so it is probably that that contrast between the Mystics and the idea of you know a sort of basic sense of touch through clairvoyance that I was referring to it's a it's a it's the quality of sensing energy and maybe the best way to talk about it is there's a continuum from the simple experience of sensing energy in a room up to sensing the presence of a higher being or God consciousness which is the thing that that mystical types are especially interested in experiencing so I want to talk a bit about the chakras and how I work with them the historical research that I've done I mentioned something that I called the continuum of human potential and the idea is that the continuum of human potential starts with the most basic immersion in physical experience or material experience and then extends to some kind of connection with higher beings or powers or God consciousness and it seems that in the Western chakra tradition the chakras as they are experienced in the body are linked to this idea of a continuum of human potential so the most basic chakra the one that's called the root chakra which is at the base of the spine is said to correspond to survival and therefore have a strong connection to the physical body and the topmost chakra is connected to spirit and cosmic consciousness and then you've got seven stages as you ascend there are a number of different systems that describe those stages and I want to talk about the one that I use so in LED beaders teachings about the chakras he talks about the spiritual powers to come with the activation of each chakra and interestingly enough he talks about them in connection with two of the subtle bodies one is the feared body which is the body of lifeforce the other is the astral body which is the body of emotion and there's a suggestion that the mental body also has a chakra system and that would possibly then also be true of any of the subtle bodies and because there's such a strong parallel in his description between the etheric body chakras and the astral body chakras that makes it seem likely that the same sequence of development operates in all the subtle bodies so what I've done is I've extrapolated from that with a list of how the subtle bodies develop and how its parallel in each of the bodies and how different abilities show up at each level and it's still a continuum of human potential but it's a little bit more advanced than the one that was brought out in Esalen where typically first chakra was survival second was sensuality and sexuality third was power forces heart based relationships love compassion fifth is self-expression sixth is synthesis or integration sometimes third I and the seventh is cosmic consciousness or some higher level of intuition so the way that I think about it is the first chakra gives you the ability to experience a new body or the sense of being present in a new body and an example of that would be when I had my first out-of-body experiences which started when I was about 14 I didn't know where I was I couldn't see or hear or feel anything all I knew was that I was no longer in my bed asleep and that's fairly typical from work that I've done on astral projection forms helping people understand their experiences people will have an experience of knowing that their out-of-body and not having any understanding or other kind of sense experience associated with that so I think of that as an activation of the first chakra it just gives you the experience of being in a body and because the experience of being in a body is related to material things and survival in a sense there's a cross correlation with the idea of the eslint chakra system which is the one that most new-age books draw from so the second chakra is our sense based experience of a body it's the body starting to reach out into its subtle body environment and pick up impressions in the same way in the SLM new-age system the second chakra is talked about as sensuality so the idea is if you're able to experience a an impression that you're not just in a body but you're in a place and start to pick up the atmosphere the energetic atmosphere of the place then the second chakra is active the third chakra in the esslyn system is sometimes power sometimes motivation and that corresponds to the ability to move so if an astral projector is developing let's say the ability to move about in the astral body then they would have to have the first three chakras active the first one would mean being a being in the body the second would be being able to pick up impressions of the environment and the third one would be being able to move within the environment and all of us regardless of our level of spiritual development have at least that much development in the astral body because we dream and in our dreams we have the experience of being in a different body picking up sense impressions from that body and moving around so yes just a second question here what about interacting with the environment is that also the third chakra that would be coming along with the second the second chakra sent it it's literally the body reaching out with its abilities to pick up information what about manipulating the environment manipulating the environment that would be a combination of all three actually because you have to you have to maneuver the body you have to have some experience of what's going on outside of you and you have to be able to move so the fourth chakra has to do with compassion in the S alone New Age system and in Leadbeater and in the way I think about it it has to do with empathy and it's our ability to sense the presence of other beings to identify those other beings so for example a lot of astral projectors will find beginning ones will find that they're in another environment but they don't perceive other beings and they'll sometimes believe that they're in an environment that is absent of beings but it may be because the fourth chakra isn't operating and this is especially true of some of the more techie nerdy type of Astro projectors for some reason their heart center doesn't seem to be as active as in other people and as a consequence they don't have to do give empathy that even allows them to perceive that there are other beings in the environment so if for example you're having a moment of connection with a pet that would be a fourth chakra experience not necessarily in the physical body or the etheric body but possibly through the astral body and this builds to the point where if you're traveling in the astral body and you encounter other beings you can identify whether they are less developed than you are equally developed or more developed where they come from what their purpose is and things of this nature so then moving on to the fifth chakra up question yeah this may be a little more specifically for people that have experienced astral projection line sometimes when it happens when it's like when I'm lucky enough to have it happen I'll do like a reality check and if there's other astral beings out there I'll sometimes try to approach them but sometimes they respond and then sometimes they don't and how would that how would you characterize that or how would that fit into the how you're breaking down moving in shock about the fifth chakra issue so the the fifth chakra is the ability to communicate with the other entities and this also is typically a problem for a lot of the astral projectors that I've worked with on forums they have developed the first three they don't see the beings or if they see them they can't communicate with them and part of the problem with that is the method of communication when you're working on the non-physical planes of being is a kind of telepathy but it's feeling based and most of us are so developed in our mental bodies that when we communicate we think too much in terms of words and concepts and I actually had a set of lessons that occurred maybe 25 to 30 years ago where I learned what I call feel think which that's my word for the language of non-physical reality where I was trying to talk with a being and whenever I said anything that was feeling based but being heard me whenever I said anything when I would get excited and talk about a concept the being would say I thought you were going to say something that I mean there they didn't get it at all and this is typical also of that problem I talked about earlier with the friend of mine that had the strong consciousness sense developed but was asking people their names when he met them online a name is a concept and therefore it can't be hurt so the beatings will often ignore turn their back on you if you're thinking that one of the problems is we bring too much of our conditioned thinking into these experiences so if we see a BA and we want to talk we start talking but we're thinking we're talking in words and if the being doesn't respond it's because they recognize that we're not able to communicate with them according to what happens on the higher planes or they don't hear us at all or they're making an attempt to communicate with us but it's not even like the mouth is moving and nothing is coming out it's like there's no mouth because we expect that as a part of our communication experience based on our conditioning so the sixth chakra is the one that brings everything together it integrates and synthesizes our experience when we're out of body and I think it does the same thing at all levels of our being it is possible to have the sixth chakra operating without the fourth and fifth so it's not like people's development through the bodies is always from the bottom up there can be gaps and you can perceive things fairly accurately except there may be no beings or you may not be able to communicate with them which means that the fourth and the fifth chakras need some work and then finally the seventh chakra is a kind of disentanglement from the conceptual or perceptual biases of the plane that we're operating on and I think of it in terms of transcendence it allows us to transcend that plane and then begin the process of building a new body on the next higher plane to the same set of chakras but in a more subtle environment so I think of the chakras therefore is a way of talking about how our subtle bodies develop and I believe that the template that I just gave you is the same for every subtle body so in the etheric body with respect to the development of our ability to be responsive to subtle elements of the physical planes such as fairies or Davos or nature spirits we would have to have the fourth and fifth chakras of the etheric body developed in order for that experience to be available astral plane lucid dreaming astral traveling those things come with a more fully developed astral body it's possible to travel on the mental plane also and beyond and in each case what you perceive on these planes develops from how many of the chakras are operating now this is not something that I'll be teaching you how to do but the practices of working with the chakras are pretty much the same for all the bodies and some of my students quite spontaneously find that they're able to perceive the chakras multi-dimensionally which means that through engaging with the positions that the chakras are said to be in along the central core of the body they bring in their energy hands and they're able to experience a level that corresponds to each of the bodies now it takes a fairly refined sense of discernment to be able to tell the difference between one body and another but as you experiment with the chakras today you may find that some of these perceptions show up is there a correlation between them in the sense of if we have a lack of empathy at the lowest level moves into the other love like there's no empathy at other levels to answer that question a little indirectly and I'll get to the specific thing after that I give you the background so there's a concept in theosophy that doesn't get talked about very often and it is associated with a Sanskrit word Surat nun or Sutra Allah which means thread soul and the idea is that the source of all being or the logos as it's called in theosophy has extended a thread of its own being down into the lower planes and this is our individuality and we build it out and we develop it and gradually that becomes our path back up and what I've noticed in my classes is that the chakras and the subtle bodies all form around this thread and so even though it's correlated with the spine in the physical body it's actually its own kind of core flow of energy it's talked about in some let's see or some Asian healing methods talk about a core flow and so this energetic flow is essentially our thread soul and the chakras in the body's form around it now there can be deficiencies in any of the bodies and there can be undeveloped chakras there can be chakras that you developed in a past life that you haven't somehow found your way back into in the present lifetime I found that more advanced Souls may have developed a full set of chakras up through the causal body but they have a hard time finding support for remembering how to use that or develop that and part of their process of growth is reclaiming that most of us have a fully developed astral body but we only use the first three chakras and maybe the sixth when we're dreaming so we have to reclaim the fourth and fifth if there's a lack of empathy it shows up differently in each body so a lack of empathy and the astral body is probably what most people would consider to be a lack of empathy in the etheric body it would be a lack of empathy for the beings of the physical plane so someone who has a pet that mistreated for example in the astral body it would be a lack of empathy for other beings of a similar level of development such as other human beings at the mental level it would be a lack of empathy for the beings that are characteristic of that level and in this case it wouldn't necessarily be that we are in any way opposed to them we just wouldn't be able to perceive them but I mean some of us hate math and at the level of the mental body it's conceivable that a mathematical equation would have a corresponding form of consciousness and that we would have no empathy for that okay now it's funny to think about and yet you know within the Theosophical system it's plausible and I have actually known people who have done some study of higher mathematics where they they passed a test a very advanced test that no one else passed as a result of listening to the mathematical beings tell them what the solutions were and it wasn't just like telling them the end result of the problem it was telling them all of the energetic shapes they needed to go through to get to the end so it's not necessarily as improbable as you might think but that would be someone who had a strong degree of empathy in the mental body so you have to think about which body you're working on and you have to think about whether the chakras was developed and just needs to be redeveloped or whether it is the leading edge of your growth in a sense if you're working on developing the buddhic level of being which is corresponds with what in theosophy is called unity consciousness then all the lower chakras will come into alignment with that and if there's any problem with empathy it'll be cleared up and it's personally my theory that this is what Madame Blavatsky was directing us to do with the first object of brotherhood was to orient ourselves towards unity consciousness so that the buddhic level of being would be activated and then start influencing and helping us develop in all the lower bodies so this corresponds to the abstract theoretical information that I wanted to provide you with and we'll do some experiential work with it in a moment and when you talk about entities what do you mean by entities when you talked about uh this is Chuck where you talked about telepathy to other entities okay the word entity simply means being but I think if you read around in some of the new-age literature it often refers to negative entities which is supposedly something to be afraid of or something that that's bad for you my understanding and my experience is that everything is consciousness and a certain level of being it's all the source but there are many different levels of evolution and many different pathways back to the source and so you can have human beings their entities for example you can also have non-human beings that are evolving nature spirits Devas angels are what are talked about in the Theosophical tradition as being entities and anything that we think about that creates what in theosophy is called a thought form that thought form is in sold by an entity that holds it together it's a very primitive entity for example if you are thinking loving thoughts of support and help and growth for someone and you're praying in that person's direction or your constantly embracing them in your in your thoughts prayers and meditations a thought-form will form itself that contains all of that and a being lower-level nature spirit type being will in soul that and will be the carrier of that to the other person and sometimes these are perceived sometimes not but it's an entity but a fairly primitive one so did that answer your question there are so many different kinds of qualities of entities that you know would be impossible to list them you can only really talk about basic principles but when the fourth chakra is active in any of the bodies you can start perceiving the entities that are characteristic of that level of being and when the fifth chakra is developed you can start communicating with them I'm wondering um if access to these entities or these feelings has to be developed or if it's something that is some people have subconsciously and whether they want it or not and if that person has that ability to pick up on things whether they want it or not if developing the chakras and learning how to work within them will help this person use this ability in a positive way in other words I'm saying is it possible for a person to have certain abilities subconsciously whether they want them or not and if so how do you kind of control that yep so in the morning I was talking about how inner sensibilities show up according to three different possible ways you can be receptive to energy or information or consciousness so what you're talking about is someone who has the rest activity to consciousness which means a person who is very aware of and responsive to the existence of other beings for example people who've passed on which would be in theosophy each of the bodies has a kind of vision associated with it and there are people who are gifted with or who can develop this vision so you could have a furyk body vision which allows you to perceive nature spirits fairies and so on you can have astral body vision which would include being able to see people who've passed on and then it goes on into the higher bodies so the challenge for people who have these natural sensitivities is they can't turn it off they often feel overwhelmed or burdened by the information and they're often even afraid that if they do turn it off it will be turned off forever so there's kind of an ambivalent feeling around that in the work that I've done in my classes the idea is to create some protections in the energy bodies because you can take the the outer membrane so to speak of the energy body and make it less receptive to negative influences or unwanted energy and that can screen out some of the scary or heavy things that can come through from the astral plane some of those techniques are talked about in my book the multi-dimensional human which is you can take a look at it when we're finished so did that answer your question okay good um maybe this will come up maybe it already has and you can redirect me so like physical pain like in my world I work with people in pain and if it's not your typical painful symptom how do is there a connection or is there a way to work with that as far as pain goes yes so this is an important point before we start working on the chakras my preference would be to encourage people to do a lot of experimenting on themselves before they make any attempt to do this work with anyone else one of the reasons that I feel strongly about this is there's a lot that we have to learn another one is I think in many forms of healing too much power is given to the practitioner and everybody has energy hands so what I do is if somebody is experiencing a problem in one of the bodies is I teach them how to use their energy hands to find out what it is and then they've got something that they can take home with them and play with them and it's sometimes possible to come to an understanding of the source of the pain which may not be only in the physical body there may be an element of it in one of the subtle bodies - occasionally I'll read someone's chakras if they ask me to do it but that's a very personal intimate kind of thing because you pick up stuff that I wouldn't want to tell a stranger and a stranger probably wouldn't want to hear from you so it's good to be discerning about how you make use of anything that I teach and the best use that you can make of it is to encourage other people to experiment with it themselves however there's often a certain amount of unwanted energy and some of the energy field associated with the pain and that idea of flushing it out with the energy cans can be very helpful and if you're working with your hands with someone you can also encourage that or you can bring their attention to the fact that there's a knot or something of this nature but again my recommendation would be empower them as much as you can to find their own way of working with it anybody else okay so I'm going to do a quick sketch for you of what we're going to do in the in the practice part we're going to do our centering practice again just as a way of resettling ourselves after lunch we'll be summoning up our energy hands and the energy hands will be working with us chakra by chakra and for the first five it's a pretty straightforward experience now you can pick up a lot of information about the chakras through using your energy hands I'm just going to ask four basic questions these are just things to experiment with to see what shows up for you you can look for a color you can look for a texture you can look for what I call a feeling tone sort of the mood of the chakras and you can look for how if at all there is energy moving through the chakras now in the beginning all this is really designed just to help you use your energy hands to start getting inner sense impressions so if you only get the fact that that this chakra is spinning a little bit that's perfect if you get a color too great if you only get a mood perfect if you get all four five all of these things mean something but we won't be able to go into all of the possibilities of what they mean so this is really just giving you a taste of what your inner senses can can pick up through the energy hands also the chakras have their own story to tell about everything you've done to traumatize them and Karla McLaren says they're incredible chatterboxes so we're not going to deal with that aspect either but it's something that can be interesting to explore if you feel like the chakras are able to communicate information to you what we're going to do is we're going to go sighs five questions that I had forgot to mention the size what we're going to do is adjust a shot the chakras according to what could be called their ideal functioning so this is a gentle way of encouraging them to develop in the best healthiest possible way regardless of whatever condition or state they might be in right now so I'll be asking you with the energy hands to reshape the chakra to be somewhere between two and four inches if it's too small there's a kind of tightness and not a lot of room for expansion or growth and it was too large it's kind of diffuse and there's probably energy leakage going on there in some way and I'm going to ask you to ask the energy hands to give it a color and the colors are the traditional rainbow colors that start with red in the first chakra orange yellow green blue indigo and well actually indigo as a question and violet for the first five chakras this is fairly straightforward and it should be understood that the color is a symbolic message to your chakras to let them know to help you heal and support you in any area of problem in the physical world and with the physical body and that will be the red color in the first chakra any area of sexuality sensuality sense experience in the second chakra and so on and I'll remind you as we go chakra by chakra what you're working on remember that the energy hands come from this causal level of your being and they know more than you do all you're doing is you're requesting of the energy hands that they change the shape and change the color and then that they just give it a stir now there are tons of books written about whether the chakras should be clockwise or counterclockwise or pulsing or you know a whole bunch of different things what I've learned is any form of movement is fine again it probably means something but you don't really need to concern yourself with it if it if there's a little bit of movement in it then you know that there's some energy flowing now this is another important point that I need to make what I'm teaching has nothing to do with Kundalini energy all of the chakras are constantly circulating vitality through all the bodies all the time and if you read literature on yoga and Kundalini activation and breaking through the knots and chakras in the body to achieve enlightenment it not only sounds like and seems like a fairly violent process but can often be experienced as destructive and people have had any number of negative physical experiences from constant feelings of burning sensations or itching and so on throughout the body or in the spine but it can also lead to big dislocations in your relationships with other people and even symptoms that mirror or actually are psychotic in nature and so we don't go there this has nothing to do with any of that I personally questioned whether the experience of Kundalini is useful for spiritual growth and development I think it's dramatic and I think for people that need some kind of drama to help them feel like they're liberating themselves the system of all the bodies can organize itself to support that including wherever there are blockages and if there are blockages your energy hands can help you gently remove them you don't have to have some kind of violent destructive breaking through there are also many teachings about the order of development of the chakras and it's important to keep these in mind to some start from the bottom and go up that's considered to be the hardest and most potentially dangerous the ones that are considered safest are the ones that start from the top and go down we're going to start from the bottom and go up but again this has nothing to do of Kundalini the idea is if you're practicing Brotherhood if you're constantly living from unity consciousness you really are starting from the top down everything that goes on especially if you're using these energy hands that come from the causal body is going to be affected from there and there's nothing violent about it if you're not ready for something it just doesn't show up so the there's another one that starts in the heart center and builds its way up and then goes down that's considered to be a fairly safe method to I think probably that's all I'll say about Kundalini unless people have any questions about it I'm preferring to leave it aside because I don't believe it has anything to do with what we're practicing today okay I think I think I will say just one more thing about it I have had a Kundalini experience and it wasn't I guess it might be called a Kundalini spark it wasn't a full-fledged thing and it might be useful for me to describe it just so that people understand that I know something about you know what I'm talking about when I refer to it it's true that these experiences can develop from sexuality this happen in conjunction with a partner we were making an experiment which was interesting because it was all about restraint and the restraint was what happens when you're kissing somebody and there's no escalation and the only thing that you're doing is being present with the other person through the touch of the lips well what happened for me was after I don't know 10 minutes maybe of having this experience time disappeared space disappeared there was a flash of light in my brain that surprised me enormous ly and it felt like there was this sort of gently spinning galaxy going on in my brain it wasn't painful it was very blissful and ecstatic very surprising and for three or four days afterwards everywhere I went light was like a plasma it was like something I could see it was like rolling and dripping off of everything if I was walking out in nature it's like there was this liquid light happening everywhere just rolling off of leaves and flowers and what it was very very beautiful and it disappeared and I let it go and I never tried to go there again because I assumed these things happen for a reason and I think a lot of times when people have problems with them it's because they get ambitious they have a plan they're going to try to make something happen so I feel blessed by having had that experience if it happens again I'm open to it I'm not afraid of it and it's nice to know that there is a something real behind the idea of Kundalini and that you know some of the teachings behind it are useful and you know I wouldn't go there although that little experiment I made with my partner is well worth trying but under the right circumstances I think what we'll do is we'll do the first five chakras and talk about it and take a break and then we'll do the last two chakras because they have a different structure from the first five so have your eyes closed and have your attention focused inward take a couple of deep breaths to help you transition into a meditative state so the centering practice begins with finding your witness platform using the imagery that you came up with this morning and a witness platform is an emotionally neutral state that you're able to visualize as a place with a wide view that's the witnessing part and that has a definite sense of a platform underneath you that creates an experience of grounding see yourself on your witness platform it can be a real place it can be an imaginary place again if you've already got imagery use the imagery or familiar with and notice the experience in your body when you're in this emotionally neutral place and notice the feeling of the energy in the room when you're surrounded by people who are also in this emotionally neutral place on the witness platform and remember off to the left of your witness platform is a landscape or an energy field or a state of consciousness however you want to experience it that represents your limited self every heavy thing every disappointment every frustration every unresolved issue going back to childhood is over there somehow you've got an image that helps you perceive this limited self reach out from your witness platform and make contact with that limited self just as if you were reaching out your toes to test the temperature of water and notice how it feels in the body when you're in touch with that limited self how it's different from the witness platform and then notice how the energy in the room also feels different and then let go of that connection bring your focus of attention back to the witness platform feel a sense of relief allow the emotionally neutral state to re-establish itself and then remember off to the right of your witness platform is your unlimited self which you can also experience as a landscape or an energy field or a state of consciousness reach out and make contact with your unlimited self in the same way notice how that changes your experience in the body notice how it changes your experience of the energy in the world and then bring your focus of attention back to the witness platform keeping your connection with your unlimited self and just notice that you feel clearer more focused become aware now of your physical body here in this room because we've done some inner sense work already you may find it a little easier to sense the presence of the energy field that surrounds your physical body just be aware of it if it helps to light it up with a bright color do that you might want to notice where the outer edge of the energy field is could be close to the body few inches away a few feet away it could be as large as the room and then requests the presence of your energy hands hands that are able to rest on your shoulders or on the top of your head they come from a higher level of your being the causal level of being the soul level they know more than you do so the idea is to ask them to do various things and learn from watching them to do these things and remember when I tell you or ask you to do anything with the chakras what is meant is asking your energy hands to do them constantly remind yourself to work with the energy hands so ask your energy hands to go to the area of the first chakra at the base of the spine in the core of the body and through the touch of the energy hands it may be possible for you to answer these questions through your inner sense impressions what's the mood or feeling tone of that chakra is it happy is it unhappy is it vibrant is it dead or somehow not as active as it could be fatigued maybe and see if you can get a sense or the energy hands can show you how big that chakra is and maybe also what shape it's in is it a sphere is it one-dimensional two-dimensional three-dimensional does it have protuberances there are all kinds of things that you can pick up it could show stress by being squeezed for example and is there a color or a set of colors associated with that chakra is the energy moving in any way now the energy hands can work very quickly and I'd like for you to make the assumption that once you pass my instructions on to them they've done the work whether you see or understand it or not because some people may not so easily perceive images ask your energy hands to shape this first chakra which has to do with physical survival in the direction of its highest best functioning two to four inches across perfectly spherical bright red vibrant and some form of energy moving for example one of the fingers and the energy hands could just give it a little stir we're going to move fairly quickly so ask your energy hands to move on now to the second chakra this is in the sacral area or the genital area same core line of the body once again the energy hands can help you see the shape the size the color the feeling tone or how the energy is moving gather some quick impressions this is the chakra that has to do with our sense experience of ourselves in the world and also sexuality pleasure and so on and ask the energy hands to reshape the chakra give it a spherical shape resize it two to four inches across give it a bright orange glowing orange color and give it a stir and if it helps you can also use images like a fruit for example of an apple in the first chakra bright red in orange in the second chakra that makes it the visualization just a little more concrete especially if you're not finding easy to visualize things and then moving up to the third chakra this is in the solar plexus which is below the windpipe below the ribcage above the navel again in the centre of the body the same questions apply here what's the size what's the shape what colors are associated with it what's the feeling tone how is the energy moving and let's reshape that chakra now two to four inches remember the energy hands are doing the work for you nice vibrant lemon yellow color perfectly spherical in shape giving it a stirrer visualizing a perfectly round lemon that's useful and this is the level that has to do with willpower motivation our ability to create our experience then let's move to the heart center the fourth chakra in the center of the chest once again feeling tone how's the energy moving size shape color and ask the energy hands to reshape and resize it perfectly spherical two to four inches across nice emerald green color ask them to give it a stir this could be a larger than usual perfectly round and very sweet lime if you like and it's the level of love compassion relationships empathy and then move on to the fifth chakra in the throat ask the energy hands to get some idea of what's going on with that chakra in terms of size shape color feeling tone energy movement and then ask the energy hands to shape it towards the highest realization of its function which has to do with self-expression communication creativity to the four inches across perfectly spherical maybe a sky-blue color there's not really a fruit of that color unfortunately and have them give it a stir to get some energy moving then ask the energy hands to return to your shoulders or the top of your head we're just going to park them there for a little while while we talk a little bit about our experience so feel free to open your eyes when you're ready now ordinarily in my classes we might spend a whole class on one or two or three of the chakras really all I'm trying to do today is introduce you to the idea that the energy hands can help you sense something and explore the chakras and also shape them towards the highest realization of their potential so I apologize if it seemed like I was moving too fast but we'll have a sometime later in the afternoon where we can go back to one chakra and that really interests you that we can explore more deeply and do some some deeper healing work with so questions noticing there's one other thing I wanted to say going back to the centering practice I mentioned when I asked you to reach out to the limit itself to look for it as an image or as a an energy field or as a state of consciousness that's one of the ways that I try to encourage people to develop their inner senses along all three lines so an image is the clairvoyant information an energy field is more energy per se a state of consciousness is more like a being or the consciousness element it's good to invite yourself they have experiences along all three of those lines so anybody have something to share okay just very concrete how far are they from the physical body or how close how far are the chakras from the physical body tell me what your experience was did you have an experience yes pretty close to the physical body so they're in front and back all in front to the side to the front in front of the physical body okay so I'm sort of on the surface or under surface or a little bit out from there pretty much on the surface okay maybe a little out but it doesn't really matter mm-hmm I'll tell you in a minute why I asked my questions there is a core flow in the body it can be aligned with the spine it can go through you can experience as going through the center of the body it can be experienced at the front in some cases that may be a bit of information about something that you need for example if it's too far behind you might be buried by something if it's too far in front that could mean another kind of misalignment I would say for today it's not that important but from the way you asked the question I wanted to check to see which body you were experiencing because the etheric body is experienced anywhere between the surface of the skin and about nine inches out and so if you were experiencing it at the front of your body you were probably looking at your theorists body chakras which is good I mean that's a good beginning point you're not the the astral body goes out to about 18 inches but you're probably not going to experience your chakras out here but there are people who might want to divorce the experience of the chakras from the physical body because it helps them visualize it more easily that would be the case for somebody who's approaching this more from a mental body perspective and again that's perfectly legitimate another question or comment or sharing you had mentioned earlier about the the size could be pretty large sphere could be very compressed in smaller is there a meaning behind any of that based on size yeah I have found that people who are constantly questioning their safety who have experienced some kind of trauma who are victims in some way will often experience chakras being very small and tight and it's a matter of you could say hyper vigilance on one side or you or self protectiveness or survival orientation and there's not a lot of room for them to for the energy to circulate on the other side this is often especially true with the heart chakra people who are doing a lot of service on behalf of others who are in healing work or who have families especially young families their heart center can get very very large because they're constantly projecting out this love and compassion but it can exhaust itself that way too and can sometimes show itself as being squeezed in one or another direction deflated there are all kinds of ways that an exhausted heart chakra can show it up show up the idea is if you size it down you're not diminishing the amount of love you're putting out you're just making sure that you don't pump out more energy than you can actually keep regenerating within yourself so that was my experience it was the heart chakra and it little bit was huge and we both work together and so we're both in the healing profession and so it is and we've brought in some of this work because for what we do it's draining sometimes and we want to make sure we protect ourselves but still be there for our patients as much as we can and so so that's what I noticed was it was just so big and yeah my suggestion is call on your energy hands and I don't know if I'll have time for this but there's in theosophy there's a higher self than the causal body and it's called the de monad which is considered to be our highest self and I've been experimenting in my groups for the last couple years with what I call the higher energy hands basically their energy hands that have the capacity to completely surround you and they come from this monadic level of being which is one step away from God consciousness they have an unlimited supply of energy and so if you're calling upon them to support you in the process of supporting others you're not necessarily drawing on more energy than you can you know manage the mental body or and you're also inviting the universe or the source itself to participate in the healing process and then you will run out so easily sure someone else so shall we go on to the fifth and sixth or sari 607 chocolates yeah by the way any any breakdown in the technique or any lack of awareness or any place that anybody gets stuck I may have an intervention that's developed from the 15 years that I've been teaching things like this so I know that it can be challenging to speak up in a group about what looks like a deficit but if you think about it as a contribution to the knowledge base of the whole group then it can actually be useful especially because as I mentioned at the beginning people have different ways of interpreting inner sense material and sometimes the problem is conceptualizing so but then also what's going on in the chakras is often private information so it's perfectly fine if you want to stay quiet about it question here I hope I'm not asking questions that were insured this morning um but my chakras were internal and I'm wondering is was that I mean I saw them inside my body is that that's the most common it's Denarius it is that's perfectly fine oh yeah the question that I answered earlier was about more unusual circumstances that people might experience but yeah and I didn't talk about that this morning and you know even if you want something reviewed from this morning that's perfectly fine so anybody else yeah this direction is not this direction right see any movement is fine okay and there are all kinds of theories about whether you know men's chakra spin one way and women spend another way and/or I mean whether you could have yeah exactly and my understanding is it's not important the only thing that's important is that there's movement of some kind and also you know the mind wants to get involved and it often wants to interfere and so if you've got an idea or a concept that they should all be going in one direction and then they're balanced you're not listening to your energy hands because the energy hands you have to assume that they know what they're doing and they also have to assume that that the chakras are doing what they need to do for things that you may never think about so it's usually better to let this higher level of your being decide how to interact and interface with them and to have some concept of the way you want things to be another question okay this just kind of came up in my head it wasn't my experience but but I've had questions about this before in your experience can Kennish chakra become completely blocked like shut down or are they always on some level moving because otherwise I mean I don't know that make sense oh yeah that book by Karla McLaren your aura and your chakras is so well thought out and she is someone who started her work with people who were severely traumatized victims of various kinds people with addictions and so on and she's gone on from the chakras to do other work around what she calls developing empathy not so much in the sense that we think of it maybe in the New Age but more that it's an actual ability of the mind brain body system but this is this early book of hers she talks about how sometimes the chakras go offline because they need a rest and it's perfectly natural if you're doing a check on your chakras and one of them is blank or empty or not there it's gone on vacation for a while and it's not a bad thing it comes back at some point it's not something that you need to or should interfere with so there are so many books about the chakras and that one is absolutely the most sensible hands on and I think empowering to work with of all the ones that I know of yes your aura and your chakras and it's by Karla with a K Maclaren MCL a Rin and not to cause a stampede but the bookstore has one copy in in the in the used book section of the energy healing and mercy water okay so go ahead so my chakras were pulsing been a rotating okay you know sometimes all you can say is that's nice I mean you know it means something or it doesn't mean something you know oftentimes we have to learn because the way that our that we interface with these energetic systems has to be personalized by our experience whatever our family and social conditioning might be the symbol sets that we are brought up with or that we eventually develop in a sense just like interpreting dreams the same image can mean something different to people in a different culture or from a different you know generation and we just have to sometimes watch and look and wait and then maybe something eventually helps us clarify for ourselves what it is that's one of the reasons why it's useful to assume that when we're sizing and shaping and changing them in the way we are with the energy hand that no matter what's going on no matter whether we understand it or not we're shaping that chakra in the direction of its best highest functioning and then anything beyond that is a subtle subtle ization or refinement of your inner senses and of your ability to interpret the experience it's certainly not a bad thing so yes so this is the first time I've ever done this kind of exercise so I'm glad to hear that what's going on with my chakras right now is probably it might be related to current circumstances and that they're not always as suboptimal some of them seem to be at the moment but I would be interested in hearing what you you know you said you might have some I don't know pointers or things to talk about what I have in mind is after we've done six and seven the chakras and taking a break we'll come back and we'll go much much more deeply into a chakra of your choice so if one of them sort of shouted out to you that it needed attention or had some very unusual circumstance around it we'll explore that more deeply now it's true that we've shaped it in the direction of its highest potential that doesn't mean that we've quote-unquote healed it you know there may be issues of some kind of it we'll still want to talk to you about and that'll be a possibly enough opportune time and because everybody will possibly be working on a different chakra it's a much speedier way of developing a kind of knowledge Bank by drawing on the group as people talk about the different experiences so probably what I'll do is I'll ask if anybody worked on the first chakra and then if they're willing to share we'll talk about that and on will go so anything else before we take a look at the sixth and seventh okay so my experience in teaching about these two chakras is different from what you'll find in most books and one of the things that I've learned is that if you treat your sixth chakra as the same as the others and try to get it you know perfectly spherical and indigo and so on you're not really helping it really helping it realize its highest potential if it shows itself as a closed fear that probably means that the possibilities of your third eye or intuition are not operating so what I encourage people to visualize is a flower and it's a flower that is opening out and it should be a large petal flower so for example in a discus flower but any any petal flower will do it can be small or large there are a couple reasons why that's useful one of them is you can choose whether you want to have it active or not if it's closed like a bud then you've turned your intuition off and this can be helpful for people if they're overwhelmed by inner sense impressions if you want to open it and it's an abyss Cassander have it as wide as you possibly can its receiving information something like a radio telescope and it should be organic because if it's hard like a literal radio telescope then there's a certain amount of willfulness going on about gathering intuitive information and for me the softness of the flower is like a protection against that kind of willfulness so that you're only drawing in what's useful and what you're ready for and sometimes we get rigid in our thinking and that can show up also in the sixth chakra so you can conceive of the chakras up to the sixth as being like a vine with a fruit on the vine each of the different stages of the chakras and this flower at the top and again the idea of using fruits and flowers on a vine is a kind of reminder to let your experience of the chakras grow organically rather than be willful and pushing and hard about it and then the seventh chakra is a completely independent structure it's not connected to the vine it's not a flower above the flower the way that I perceive it in terms of its optimal functioning is you know the a gas burning stove it has got a burner in the center and that burner has flames that come up on all sides which can make a point that's the way I see the seventh chakra it's like a gas burner and the gas is coming up there's a flame it can show itself up and show up in other ways I've seen it upside down on people that usually indicates that they have some strong beliefs about how it's not a good thing to open up the chakras but if it's up the things that we'll look for our whether the flame is a complete circle because it could be that some of the elements of the burner or not operating like only half of it or if there might be a chunk missing we can also look at the the height if it's if it's high that usually indicates that you're reaching for that you have the ability to perceive higher-level intuitive information or you could be exhausted by it you can have the energy hand to actually adjust the height of the flame and then finally the color of the flame is variable violets the one that we'll use today but in in my classes we've experimented with a kind of deep blue color which somehow really strongly enhances the ability of the mind to focus on what it's doing and to have a kind of not only one pointed mind but openness to intuitive information white if you run white light or ask your energy hands to adjust a white light on the seventh chakra it's a special kind of spiritual protection and if you run it with a rose color that's an invitation to radiate and live from unity consciousness so and there are many many variations of that that I've experimented with all we can really do today is just suggest the opportunity that you can experiment with it as far as colors are concerned if it looks yellow you're burning off impurities that just means that their stuff gathered up in the system that just needs to be burned off and it'll eventually turn blue or violet or one of these other other colors they tend to be pastel colors in the Rose purple range usually or white so it's important to understand that you may see something different from what I've said when you look and that if you're going to shape it towards the highest realization of its potential in my experience the images that I've just given you are the most helpful [Music] if your energy hands want to shape them in a different direction learn from that and bring it up if you want to I'm not trying to impose my personal vision on anybody I just have found this is helpful I'll give you an example if you want to have a more active dream life close down the sixth chakra so that you're not thinking and open the seventh chakra and that leads to dreams of a higher nature instead of just processing if you're having trouble with sleeping at night turn down the seventh chakra and close the sixth chakra if you're looking on problem solving and dreams turned down the seventh open the sixth I mean there are a bunch of different variations that you can experiment with so questions on here just wait my question are we like to color I see a mo green when I what does that indicate I can't say for sure as I mentioned there's not a universal relationship between colors and symbols and so on my guess so the green color is a healing color that you're carrying around with you the intention of in in all actions coming from compassion coming from healing wanting to inspire some form of [Music] empathy and so on between yourself and other people what you could experiment with is the energy hands want to change it to another color how does that change the way you view the world or the way other people experience you there's nothing I mean I I wouldn't suggest that anybody try to run the color of you know what comes out of your faucets when they've been working on the fire hydrants in your neighborhood you know that sort of muddy rust brown color through any of the chakras I mean that's you know but there's a lot of room for if a color that isn't a part of one chakra shows up in another one that can sometimes mean that you're a little mixed up about your priorities for example if your heart chakra shows up as yellow instead of green maybe your version of love is telling everybody what to do and what's good for them because that's the third chakra thing I mean you know they don't when you learn the simple sysm system they can tell you a lot of information but you have to kind of play with it and experiment and be willing to and open to learn and grow and to hold on to whatever you learn lightly and to follow principles instead of books because there are books that will tell you it's this it's this it's this and my experience is it's what you need to know about how to work with your own individual energy bodies and chakra system so uh just to reiterate for the sleeping did you say that turned down the seventh and sixth yeah chakra yeah that's that's like asking for deep restful dreamless sleep okay and then to be able to have more vivid dreams to close down the sixth chakra and open up the seven right that would lead that would lead to you know how you can have just sort of ordinary mundane dreams about the world if you open the seven that close the sixth those dreams are probably going to be more about higher realms okay was there one more you shared because I didn't get that so there were various ways of tuning out intuitive information if you feel like you're overwhelmed with it that's actually something I'll lead you through in the practice thanks okay so once again close your eyes have your attention focused inward take a couple deep breaths and once again request the presence of your energy hands or remind yourself that they're present either on your shoulders or resting on the top of your head if you like before we go on you can make the experiment of requesting the higher energy hands if it feels too intense just let it go but the higher energy hands coming from the monadic level of being one step away from God consciousness well feel how the energy of the room shifted right away feel that these higher energy hands are completely surrounding you supporting you embracing you cupping or cradling you this actually is another thing that's very useful to do if you're having trouble sleeping these energy hands come from a level where everything is just learning and growth there's no good or bad there's no likes and dislikes everything is a part of your evolution back to the source so there's a lot of forgiveness of self and forgiveness of others that can be experienced in the connection with these higher energy hands and that's one of the best things to do before you fall asleep at night is call them up be surrounded by them field at peace with them and drift off into that peace for the rest of the night now you can use these energy hands to work with the chakras too you want to make that experiment go ahead if it's easier to visualize and stay connected with the soul level or lower energy hands that's also perfectly fine so bring your attention now to the area just at the point a little above where the brows come together above the root of the nose the area where the third eye is said to be or you might find that your sixth chakra is more in the center of the body be aware of the other chakras be aware of the vine that connects them and just take a moment to probe that area with your energy hands is there a color is there a size or shape is there a feeling tone is energy moving and when you're done with that ask your energy hands to shake this chakra towards its highest possible functioning and let that be a large flower like an abyss kiss flower any large petal flower will do where the vine comes up to your forehead and the flower opens out from your forehead and the flower should be a white flecked with gold and ask the energy hands there's no stirring around with this one like with the other chakras ask the energy hands to show you what it's like to close that into a flower bud notice how that feels notice what shifts in your awareness and then ask them to open it again as wide as you possibly could be comfortable with notice how that's different from the closed State some of you are already drifting off I can feel it maybe a little too open and then ask the energy hands to adjust it to just right whatever size that might be so the gold flex represents something that I call cosmic wisdom energy basically the idea is they have the sixth chakra be open to that but not overwhelmed by it and the whiteness is a symbol of only allowing the information that's really for your highest good to come in so like a good idea for us to stop and talk about anything you notice with this one before we go on to the seventh chakra because again it's a different system so when you're ready open your eyes your energy hands can just hover around you somewhere holding you anybody have anything they want to check in about or share about the higher energy hands or okay just a second oh I actually been looking for an answers of this a little while okay so and it just happened now so it's valid but um seems like when I when I ever I am focusing on that and I'm just I say connecting to Source Energy I get a pain in my head it's not and I said well I try not to call it a pain and I sometimes I'll describe it as just like a pressure but it's it's um it's right there you know so I've kind of identified it in that at least in that sixth chakra area so I was interested when we were doing the flower to see and when I closed it like it got a little more intense the pain dude yeah and then then I thought oh I open it back up it's going to go wave it it it kind of went away in the middle of and then when I got to open it I felt it again and I don't I can't I just can't figure out I've been trying so hard to figure out where it's coming from and it starts sometimes when I just like when you say okay start taking the breath the deep breaths when I meditate or when I work with like now I do Reiki so I work with that energy just almost always feel it I don't know if it's a bad thing I don't know if it's a good thing I just don't know what to think of it one-zero ear I'm going to suggest that we explore that in the phase when we're working on a particular chakra so remember I said we would each of us would choose a chakra and before I say anything about it ask your energy hands to gather as much information about it as as you can and then let me know what you found and then we can talk about it a bit the thing is I I shouldn't be taken as an authority when I'm interpreting someone else's experience I can only offer speculation but if you gather some more information I may be able to speculate more in the direction of something useful for you because I can think of a number of possible things but I don't have enough information to know which one it would be and it seems to me to be a pretty important thing to look into so we'll work on that somebody else well I was just luxuriating in the feeling of that openness of the petal and that's when you said whoa oh there's maybe some of you are going too far and then there was a point when you told us to close it and I felt such intense sadness it's like I didn't want to close that and then when you said open it back up again to where it feels comfortable like kind of went into the middle area nice as well maybe that's about just right mm-hmm okay what I've often found is that for people who are deeply psychically and spiritually sensitive it's so easy to get overwhelmed with the information that comes and it's also so difficult to shut it out because the fear is that if you're successful in shutting it out you won't be able to let it in again and people often will feel a sense of really chief about recognizing that this is something that you have some control over you can close it when you need a rest and you can know that you can open it again when you're ready the energy hands can help you do that I fear that I would lose it exactly and and that was maybe that feeling of sadness that oh my gosh I don't really want it to be shut up right okay but if you need to have it that way sometimes then you can do it intentionally exactly it's a choice I've got a question about just the appearance yeah I was surprised that that chakra took the appearance of a lily and I thought well this can't be you know and it never did change when I closed it and open it up again and add in the pewter spin it was really pretty and instead of flex I got a streak so gold through it but it never moved in a glowed instead I mean a so long doesn't have to move okay slow in glowing is good enough to let you know that there's some energy flowing through it you know I like the abyss cos flower because it's big and Lily is just as good and in fact in some respect that's a little closer to what Leadbeater saw in his impressions I mean he called them lotuses but the idea was that they were vortices and that they had a kind of funnel effect and so as a funnel supposedly they allow you to draw energy in and circulate it so I think that's a perfectly valid image you mentioned the word vortices yeah for about three months last year I was just really hell-bent on trying to read everything I could develop mortises and mathematical flow dynamics and everything possible to be known and there's not a lot other than basic basic elementary fluid dynamics stuff once you get into what's going on in the vortex things become so incredibly complicated it's it's the math gets really hard you might say just wondered if you have any comments or if you've run across to any ion fund anything other than perhaps Lud Peters comment um and other folks that say well they're like vortices but like in a fluid a vortex is usually observed on the surface of the fluid and it's uh it takes place in the area like on your bathtub drain so all the water the bathtub is part of that vortex it's all moving that's why if you try to stir it in to go to a different direction it will go back to what it was because the whole tub is moving and the fluid comes from somewhere and goes somewhere it doesn't just poof and disappear it's a it's a product of the vortex make is be the visual experience of what's actually happening is that stuff is moving from somewhere and generating a lot of energy at that point of where everything is taking place just wonder if you've run across to other material in it actually no but I'm going to suggest that you at some time ask your energy hands to open up the sixth chakra of your mental body and see whether any intuition or inspiration comes from that it's I mean obviously if the worthwhile question I was getting some interesting visuals as you were talking about how the we don't we think of our etheric body for example as being a self-contained unit but it is a bubble within the matter of the etheric plane and according to Leadbeater each chakra is a vortex that allows for transmission of energy cross plains just like a vortex in a bathtub is allowing the water from the bathtub to go down to a lower level so to speak so I think it's interesting to think about the etheric level of being as matter a spheric matter that is everywhere that has a bubble in it and that there's an interactive relationship between the inside and the outside that the chakras have something to do it and that this vortex dynamic may be related to in some way but that's probably about as far as I can go it's not something I thought about it explored question here I had this experience and I wasn't sure what to make of it but was honest when I we first started with you know the tractors it was like if I looked at one I could see through to another one and I thought could you see chakras and back of the shack are you looking at yes that would be one way of experiencing the chakras in the different bodies and this is an interesting question to which I won't go into a lot but the problem of how to organize information that's perceived multi-dimensionally so if you've got let's say four chakras one for each of the bodies a theory astral mental causal and they are all occupying basically the same space but there might be a way in which one of them is a little larger than the other that can help you perceive the difference which way are you perceiving it is the larger one the most material and dense one and as you go in towards the center they become more subtle or if the outside one the most subtle one and either way of perception is completely valid it depends on how your mind wants to organize the because they all overlay each other so for you to make a distinction between chakras and the bodies you saw them related on this plane but they could also be related like this or they could be clustered like that it really depends I think on what makes sense to you as a way of analyzing them also I got the sense from your description that you might your awareness might be stepping outside of yourself yeah sense of doing it is like if I be looking at someone else or something I go to my witness platform even when I look at my own yeah okay so stepping outside of yourself to look at the chakras that's that's also perfectly valid what that means is that you you're stepping into a higher body and in my classes I teach a technique where we strip off the body so that we're in the buddhic body so the buddhic body can then work on the chakra systems of the other bodies and it sounds like you you're working along those lines yourself okay at the most dense material level do do you agree with a lot of the others that say that there's the in the material physical plane the connection of the third eye with the pineal gland well I don't go there there's a lot of argument about that and in my book rainbow body it's something that I had to refer to a half a dozen times because of the different teachers and the different versions there are two different traditions where the pineal gland is associated with a third eye there's another one where it's associated with the crown chakra and there are some variations where they are mixed and merged so to speak into a sort of super organ and the seventh crown chakra is something completely different I don't personally find that it's useful or necessary to relate the chakras to the endocrine but I think it helps people understand that there's an impact between the energetic centers and the subtle bodies and the physical body by realizing that there may be a place that the chakras are influencing or talking to in the physical body and I think that's very important for people who are doing energy healing but my focus on the chakras is developing the higher bodies so it hasn't been a relevant question yes I was able to open up to flour almost backwards but not also not all of them opened up that way but when it was time to close them I saw darkness okay I need a little more clarity the only the only chakra that was a flower was the fifty-fifth so what were you experiencing yester 6:00 when it was time to close the sixth chakra I started seeing darkness and I got kind of scared oh yeah okay I don't think you would have gone unconscious but it's an indication that consciousness really does change when you affect the chakras I was talking about how if you close that chakra down it helps you sleep so you were getting a message through that darkness that that might be useful for you as a way of quieting down the amount of information that you're taking in or the amount of activity going on in your brain now what now tell me what was it about backwards it was just when you said to open up the flower it was starting to open up way back oh okay so when flowers do that it usually means they're done you know it's like they're they're not they're going to turn into seeds and so on that was probably a warning from your higher self or your energy hands not to stretch it beyond the point that's just right because that can be I don't know whether the word is damaging or not uncomfortable so probably for you asking the energy hands to find the the level of openness and closeness that's just right would be useful I just want to make a comment on you know the different parts of the body like the endocrine status system and things like that so we're physical therapists by license like that's about it for what we really do at the clinic you know we think that the body heals itself we're just there to kind of listen and do whatever the body wants us to do you know we're just a little assistant but I have found that to start to talk to patients about chakras and energy work and those types of things the really nice bridge to get them into the system so I just want to tell you bye you're absolutely right by experience we get this every day like if we didn't have that bridge I mean we'd probably get like what maybe five percent of our patients that might be on board with what we're doing but the bridge helps us get into it and then once they're into it they're like okay we don't even care about that body part is anymore because all this amazing stuff is happening but we kind of need that little bridge just for them to even be open for it for some patients you're the majority that are coming from Western medicine Romans this brings up an interesting question because are the chakras real quote-unquote and one way of thinking about it is that it's a model for interacting with the operating system which could be purely material purely physical but it gives us a way for turning up and down the dials and if states of consciousness are are only some balance of hormones and neurotransmitters to have an ability to create a state of consciousness that's supported by that by visualizing an energy center somewhere along the spine and working with it to get a color a pretty amazing thing because otherwise we wouldn't have access to that operating system in the same way that if you're booting up a computer there's like a moment that you have to press a special button to get into the system that allows you to adjust things that the operating system normally doesn't get you into so for me I mean I know what I experienced with the subtle bodies I know what I experienced with the chakras it could all be brain stuff but it's a kind of modeling of the brain that gives you a sort of power of talking to different levels of experience and consciousness that may have an effect so that the hormones and the that they're produced by the endocrine glands could actually be influenced by thinking about the chakras so it's not something that negligible regularly first of all thank you for the meditation from my experience after opening up the sixth chakra all this energy just kind of came out and was coming from the seventh chakra out and then you ended the meditation so my question to you is is the energy coming from your body up or you being pulled from divine consciousness the universe is it coming up or down which way you know is the energy going because mine felt it was just going out it was pretty cool well this idea of a Sutra plan or thread soul or core flow I think energy moves in both directions there are practices that I've done that involve clearing unwanted energy like we did earlier sending it down the grounding cord the idea really is to think about that thread soul extending all the way from the source down to grounding us in the core of the planet you can send information and energy up or down depending on your need probably it's a little bit like those cables where somehow energy and information can go both directions simultaneously without interfering as far as the idea of going out you're talking about the sixth chakra flower after I did that meditation then I just felt all this energy in my body and then a1 from the 6th to the 7th and just out oh yeah so I'm almost kind of like having an out-of-body experience but all this energy I could just feel going out oh all right I think that was an invitation to open up to a higher body that's my guess so what you were calling out was really sort of like opening up or activating the first chakra the next higher body okay and you wouldn't have gone necessarily gone out-of-body here in the room but your perception may have shifted to the higher level yes it did okay let's continue and we'll take a break after this next little practice so once again have your eyes closed and your attention focused inward take a couple breaths be aware of the presence of your energy hands and then when you're ready has the energy hands to focus your attention on the seventh chakra the crown chakra the one that has to do with higher consciousness and again you can gather information about what's there is there anything there what's its shape of color what's its condition and when you're ready ask that the energy hands reshape whatever is there into a burner like you might find on a gas stove and ask that the energy hands help there be a little energy flowing through that seventh chakra so you can see a flame and the flame is continuous all around the circle and just notice the color of the flame as it's currently manifesting itself if it's yellow just let it be it'll clarify itself in a little bit good colors are blue violet purple rose possibly white but that wouldn't be our that wouldn't be the thing that we would most want you to experience right now and then ask the energy hands to find a way to turn up this flame you could imagine that it's like a kerosene lantern and there's a handle but don't turn that handle yourself but the energy hands do it you want to have three experiences as open as you can as closed as you can and just right and notice with each of these settings how it changes your experience first as open as possible then as closed as possible and then just right this might go a little too quickly but just to show you that it's possible ask the energy hands to change the color to that blue color and notice what you experience this is the color of high mental concentration with intuitive support and then have them change it to a rose color at the color of unity consciousness if and then have them change to white which is a color of divine protection [Music] come and have them change the violet which is the color of being open to higher intuitive guidance which is the most recommended color and then when you're ready open your eyes now if you got nothing more out of that than something felt different each time you made a shift that means that your inner senses are working for you and you can explore it more deeply another time I recognized that again we're moving more quickly than maybe everybody can follow but I wanted to just give you a repertoire of things to experiment with so does anybody have anything they want to ask about or share with respect to this chakra so when I was experiencing the other chakras I was also experiencing this violet purple color I often have that experience when so where sometimes when I close my eyes and when I was doing the seventh one that wasn't as evident I was visualizing more than Berner visualization okay so I think from conversations that I've had with you before that your spiritual practice involves kind of transcendence of illusion does that make sense I mean there are many ways to describe it it's is it the Advaita ok non duality non-duality so I mentioned at the very beginning of the talk that the 7th chakra corresponds to disentangling yourself from illusion transcending the perceptual biases of a particular body of planes so my interpretation of your experience is that that has become such a strong solid intention for you in terms of your spiritual practice that just about everything that you undergo inwardly and outwardly is used as you'll so to speak for this process of disentangling yourself and so that chakra will always be there because your your innocence viewing your life from that perspective there's a teaching in Leadbeater called the star of consciousness it's only mentioned a couple of times and one of the places is in the masters and the path and his idea is that the star of consciousness is in one of your chakras and that it stays there and it's the way that you view your life for most people it's in the fourth chakra or the sixth chakra but it could conceivably be in any of them including the seventh so it's possible that you've moved your star of consciousness to the seventh and that's you know a part of your spiritual practice in my classes we use the energy hands to move the star of consciousness to different chakras and the degree of change in the state of consciousness that you're in can be really quite radical I wouldn't advise making that experiment for the lower chakras because it's so radical because we're so unused to processing things at that level that it can be really disorienting but the energy hands especially the higher energy hands can show you which chakra your star of consciousness is in and if there's a desire to experiment with moving it they can move it but always move it back to the place that's most comfortable and stay for five six or seven when it's in fix everything tends to be perceived intellectually and when it's in for everything is perceived as a matter of relationship and love five doesn't get a lot of attention but everything at that level would be perceived as an aspect of expression or creation creation creativity and the seventh is disentangling yourself so it's funny they said I don't that what happened but I when I got the burner I had a little baby burner sprout and then I just couldn't I thought well that's silly you know how you you always have that I'm just imagining things which that's what it is anyway it's all our imagination but so I but I couldn't kind of get it to go away J it's not wasn't supposed to go was to go away no like I said at the beginning when you start to see things that you don't expect that means that you're really getting intersex perspective or perceptions so remember the chakra system operates in every energy body if you see a seventh chakra burner within one you're perceiving that chakra into energy body simultaneously now I don't know exactly how that might be relevant for you and I'm not sure which two bodies they would be but it means that you have the ability to perceive chakras multi-dimensionally which is something you could explore so again there's not a lot that I can cover other than to show you the point you in some directions that you can explore on your own could you just go over again what if your star of consciousness is what it means if it's in the floor sure fifth or six so red beaters description of the star of consciousness is that it is an expression of your monad and the higher energy hands are also an expression of your monad but it's it's where your monad has placed itself in terms of organizing your perceptions of your experience so sometimes we do it by habit sometimes it's chosen for us sometimes when we experience radical shifts in consciousness it's because we've moved into a different body but it can also be that the star of consciousness has shifted so you know I have friends if they're if they're star of consciousness is in their sixth chakra I don't want to be around them I mean you know because everything is coming from this head mental analysis intellectual place you know that serves a purpose but if I want to do play time that's not a fun place to do play time you know however I have one friend who can be either there or in the have the star of consciousness in the fourth chakra and he apologizes to people sometimes by saying oh my god I don't know who that was when he goes from the sixth to the fourth because you know there's just all of this ambivalence and all these stories and you know and then when he's in the fourth is just you know very open and compassionate so it's a very interesting thing to experiment with but anyway the fourth is love and compassion empathy the fifth is communication expression creativity I imagine that would be an interesting place for creative artists and performers to experiment with and certainly public speakers in fact I think I had a student who needed to overcome some shyness about public speaking and putting the star of consciousness in the fifth chakra really helped suddenly stuff got very fluent that had been kind of blocked before the sixth chakra is ideally analysis synthesis understanding hopefully not obsessive ambivalence but that happens too and the seventh is transcendent but especially you know dissolving or disentangling yourself from whatever the perceptual biases are of the plane that you're operating on you

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Keywords: Chakras, Clairvoyance, Chakra Clairvoyance, Energy Healing, Yoga, Spirituality, Intuition, Insight, Personal Growth, Chakra Awareness, Meditation, Theosophy, C. W. Leadbeater (Author), Kurt Leland (Author), Theosophical Society, Aura, Human Aura, 7 Planes of Consciousness, 7-fold Human Nature, Atma, Buddhi, Manas, Kama, Prana, Linga, Sthula, Unlimited Self, Witness Platform, Limited Self, Antahkarana, Chakra Meditation, Workshop

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Length: 122min 44sec (7364 seconds)

Published: Thu Aug 10 2017