Ken Rideout on Overcoming Addiction & Running 155 Miles Through Mongolia | The Forward

all right my guest today on the forward is is actually an old friend of mine Ken R out I met I met Ken I don't know seven or eight years ago uh we did a training camp that he came to and and and I met a guy who who who grew up uh outside of Boston who was Man the the first second I met him he was just constantly talking trash well wait till you listen to the episode this will all make perfect sense but he was a great athlete he hammered on the bike we went for some runs I thought this guy you know and by the way just wanted to bury me on every ride or every run and I'm like all right dude enough of this then you fast forward I don't know five or six years and I start reading all these articles in in legitimate Outlets outside magazine the New York Times uh seen him on other people's podcast you know uh the world's fastest marathoner above the age of 50 and they had all these pictures and and it doesn't look like a marathoner and um and and as I was tracking his story CU we didn't talk about this when we first met he had such I knew he had a um kind of a wild and interesting would be the wrong word but uh complicated uh upbringing um not not the smoothest of upbringings but um as I learned more about a story there was so much that I didn't know when we first met you know talking about addiction talking about even harder times than I thought um the part that I did know about him was uh his journey with his family now um three beautiful young boys and a beautiful girl they adopted from Ethiopia so I just encourage you to listen by the way you know disclaimer here more F bombs in this podcast than any episode of the forward ever um but I always you see this rough and tough guy that still likes to talk trash and but also loves to share uh his journey with everybody uh I always think back to his family and just how generous he has been and and and and also certainly generous like I said with uh being willing to share his story so I I thoroughly I didn't honestly being honest I didn't totally know what to expect in this conversation but I left um just totally enamored with it I thought it went great and so big thanks to Ken for for coming on and sharing his story and um I think you'll get a kick out of it you and I think you you know his next marathon or one of these crazy running challenges he does I think you find yourself uh if you're in the hood you'll find yourself out on the on the side of the road cheering this guy on so enjoy the show and uh thanks [Music] Ken Ken R out I I just I have to start with a question you know because when I last saw you and talked and was was hanging out you know you were just sort of this which I have a lot of these by the way so don't take any offense you were just this [ __ ] buddy of mine and I turn around I mean not literally but you know in the blink of an eye I'm opening up the New York Times I'm opening up outside magazine and you were always talking trash let's go for a run I will [ __ ] I'll beat you down and I was like settle down Ken and then I started reading these articles the world's fastest 50-year-old man Marathon I'm like wait a minute I'm really glad I didn't go for that run that would have been a beat down but like this is like a thing I guess I just hung around long enough until people started falling off and I was the last man standing that's but this is a whole new level n to your point I was always doing a little bit of everything but being mediocre at a bunch of [ __ ] jack of all trades master of none and uh I don't know how much of like my addiction Journey we've ever spoken about but I was that's the other part that that really that I did not know and I you know these you know was popping up in these articles and I was like hang on a second like I know Ken pretty well and and I also well I didn't know that but I didn't know when that sort of was and when it ended cuz I think we first met we met right when I was like coming eight or nine years ago yeah we met right when I was coming out of it but still like struggling to get some longevity so I'd be sober for a month [ __ ] up for a month and just like kind of um seeson back and forth and um trying to use the endurance stuff as a way to stay sober and then um which is very common yeah a lot of people do yeah and and I think that um at some point I was just like man my life is ticking by and I'm not making a difference for anyone including myself I was just like decent at everything work husband dad I was just [ __ ] mediocre and at some point I would just remember a conscious decision of like I'm not going to [ __ ] do this mediocre [ __ ] anymore if I'm going to run I'm just going to pour myself into it and um I recognize early on that this winning at running is a simple equation probably you feel the same way about cycling I was like I'm just going to [ __ ] train harder than everyone and I'm going to leave like the the race was just like like a beauty contest it was like the [ __ ] work is done I'm just here to show off now like I've already suffered more than anything that could happen in this race and I I even if that sounds like hyperbole to people like I convinced myself that that was the [ __ ] truth and on race day I'd also get into this mode of like I'll [ __ ] die to win and I've left the races like a few times in an ambulance where I'm like I'm going to [ __ ] drop dead but I was like after the finished L yeah yeah once during the race during Iron Man Texas I left in an ambulance from the bike but was all [ __ ] up but yeah I just I don't know I I took it on as a source of you we all did that camp it was kind of a man camp training camp we did down in um out in Phoenix uh in Scottdale actually and um so so and there was like I don't know six or eight of us there Rick Cella was there a bunch of good dudes but um so this was this was this was a sober period yeah yeah yeah I think so it's hard to tell which one when I was sober when I wasn't cuz like with that kind of addiction like I would be high like 24/7 like go to bed wake up immediately take pills and like oxies and yeah like perco set um you know Oxy Cotton fendal if I could get it whatever I could same exact [ __ ] same exact thing it's just all it's you know yeah and you know I've only ever experienced that stuff from surgeries right which they give you for you know if you have a big surgery recovery and I was like this you know it didn't really even help me you got the Advil I'll just rock the Advil like I'm cool with that um but if that you know that if that was if there was any bleed over there like you I I mean I have a pretty good radar or meter going this guy's this guy's [ __ ] up but I mean I said I did say that about you just so you know but it wasn't in the sense that like this this guy what is this guy on yeah um but wow yeah that that we have never talked about that and that's that to me outside look the surprises are the surprising performances you know just because so fast I mean just to put this in context for the folks listening with your PR is 229 228 228 so to run 228 a lot of people they know that's a fast time but I think it helps if you break it down per mile 539 539 so so people then in their minds think well if I go down to the high school track and I could just go for anybody listening or watching just go on down to your high school track right and and it gets even crazier you know Kip choi's 430 434 whatever it is it's crazy I mean that's it be hard to run a it would be hard to run one lap of the track at his Pace right today's episode with Ken Rideout is brought to you by eight sleep the Pod cover by eight sleep will keep you cool all night all the way down to 55° fah whatever that is in Celsius you can figure it out but here's the deal you wake up fully refreshed this is particularly important for elite athletes because sleeping cool improves deep sleep and overall Sleep Quality which enhances the body's recovery and everybody knows better 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Chinese are sitting over here the American guys and some of the them recognize me which is still mind-blowing to me cuz they're like hey Ken come sit with us and I'm like oh there's no seats over so the only seat left was next to Kip chogi in the kenyons but everyone's clearly like avoiding him so I just went over there I was like hey what's up fellas Kip chy bang knuckle bum sit down putting our shoes on together chitchatting it was crazy then we walked out to the start line together and there's a picture of us on the start line in Berlin where he's there and I'm like right behind him like one or two people behind him about to start the mer Berlin Marathon he speak English he do he yeah super nice guy yeah I mean I mean that I would I don't even know what I would do I [ __ ] myself cuz when he took off I st tried to hang with like the second group of pro women and I was running like I was in good shape though and it gives you like false sense of security so I was like I'm taking out it was humid in hindsight it was too humid to go this hard but I was running like 530s through 15 miles with these Pro women and every step I was like man I know I'm going too hard but man maybe today is the day but it's literally like so predictable marathon is so much about experience if you go too hard in the first half you will not finish strong you have to run close to even to negative splits to run a PR right you know I've only run I don't know four or five marathons and I always but people ask me a lot that want to do a marathon like oh will you coach me will you train me I was like no I don't know in fact we just had a kid who works for us ran the San Francisco marathon he asked the same question I said no but I kicked him over to RI aell I said hey Jimmy just train this kid like cuz I don't but the one thing I always tell people is uh because to me for a marathon yes you have to train but to your point like it's strategy right and and and also just knowing and I've heard you talk about and I talk it's funny enough I talk about this like looking at your dashboard like which which which uh lights are are now yellow yeah soon to be read and so you're just looking at this dashboard but what I tell everybody and I told this kid who works for us I said listen mile 20 is halfway 100% anyone who doesn't believe that hasn't done enough matter they can't get their mind wait no they think you're crazy they think you're crazy so you get I'll tell you what I would do if I started the Berlin Marathon which isn't going to happen uh standing behind Kip chogi I would run like 100 yards and be like oh [ __ ] my shoe just came untight like I would just get out of the way like I don't want none of that normally I would do that but I was like [ __ ] that I belong here who are these guys the crazy thing is as I'm stand there people are trying to come up trying to squeeze by and you know at that point you're like I'm pretty nice to everyone but at that point you're in like [ __ ] fight mode like if you're in the tour and someone's like hey I'm coming in here you're like no you're not the [ __ ] are you doing so people were trying to come by I'm like yo yo do you see me standing here get the [ __ ] out of here like this is not like nice guy time well we can be friends at the finish line right now I'm like strategically tucked in here exactly where I want to be right but if he's running 4:30 then you're a minute behind after a mile yeah so after they took off I was like all right once once we get enough people get around me we'll get into the pace that I want to run and I'll just slip in and just stay on someone which is what I did in successfully thank God in Tokyo this past March I ran 229 low and I just stayed with the same group of people probably for like 20 miles y yeah but that was the first time I ever ran a negative split in a marathon and I want to say I was like 250th at the halfway and I finished like 114th so on the on the back end not one single person ran past me normally in the marathon someone's coming on strong at the end but not on this one I was the one finishing strong no one passed me I was just blowing past people it was like a magical feeling but in terms of feeling that feels a lot better than being the jake leg that everybody's Blowing by then you really are stopping to tie your shoe and I got a shoe issue I got Berlin I I literally I thought I was going to die I ran 235 the worst I've run in years and I and it took took everything I had to just get to the Finish Line I was like seeing Stars dizzy and in Tokyo I ran I finished I have the k for the last kilometer of the Tokyo Marathon ran it faster than anyone in the race wow or at least anyone on straa right well that's most people these days yeah what do do they I they must keep like you know world records for individual age oh it's I'm not even close oh you're not somebody somebody they knew you were coming on and they said well I I don't know if [ __ ] run 229 world record I said I don't know I mean there's got to be I mean it's probably not even close some guy ran 225 in in London last year at the age group World Championships a Belgian guy there's a handful of guys that are like so yeah I but I would I would guess that there's kenyons in their 50s that have run under 220 as a 52y old yeah well over 50 wow definitely I mean two years a two years ago I won the Masters division at New York City the when I was 50 I think I was the first person over 50 to win The Masters at any major but the previous two winners for the that was over 40 the previous two winners were like Meb and Abdi Abdi Rockman they ran like [ __ ] 212 but I ran 233 on that day but I was like hey no one else is here all I can do is beat the people here like I I had no idea that I could even contest that Division and when I was finishing coming up the finishing shoot chellan Flanigan was closing on me I looked back and she Sprint and cuz the crowd's going crazy I'm like I know they're not going crazy for me and I look back and she's closing I was like [ __ ] this I I started sprinting like a lunatic I beat her by 1 second and I won the Masters division by 3 seconds but you know the the thing is so the thing is so staggered that I I definitely wouldn't have sprinted like that had Sheen up and closing on me and I probably could have lost it by like two or three seconds so it was a nice surprise I didn't think that I would even I had never even thought to that would be a possibility you know the thing I do remember the most about just our chats over runs and rides and hanging out is is uh you know just this and I don't know how much you've talked about or has been talked about but it's stuck with me just like this you for anybody listening or watching and listening I mean the accent is thick right so you're obviously not from Texas not from California not from Mexico not from whatever but you telling these stories of growing up in Boston and and working at the prison and and man I was just I was was like damn you when you were telling me these stories of growing up and I was like that is like that's un like unlike anything I've ever heard like rough I've listened to your childhood I wouldn't say it's any different it's just different different um locations different people around you but different but same like socioeconomic settings I was just around a lot of people because we were in the inner city and it was um yeah man it was rough look I [ __ ] became a drug addict as a way of coping with all the like trauma that I had seen in my life which by the way I would have never two years ago three years ago never thought I had any traumatic events and then I went to um onsite okay workshops I know it very well and been a few times oh you have oh cool cool cuz I have a friend who was there said they were there with someone who knew you but so anyway I went there at these my friend's recommendation a guy I bought my house from played for the Titans and he had gone there and I was like in a moment of like desperation I was like dude [ __ ] onsite what do you think he's like best decision I ever made I was I was literally like call you back and I just went and paid for it and did it did you go individual or with the group individual and then I got there you know you know you get there it's [ __ ] dude I was like driving to the electric chair when I was driving out there I was like I I was literally like driving there Crying by myself I'm like what the [ __ ] has become of my life that I'm so I can't manage it on my own that I'm like going to I kept referring to it as a psych wart I'm like what the what happened to me they said that Jesus right out not supposed to say stuff like that but yeah I understand I say that jokingly so I get there and um I've talked to him about this so I know he doesn't mind me sharing this but I get there and they're like uh oh yeah here's your room with two two other people so there's three beds in there I'm like f i don't even have my own room they take your phone I didn't know anything they take everything and uh guy walks in big athletic looking handsome guy and I'm like oh man you know you're not supposed to ask any names or anything so I was like oh did you play sports yeah I played in college you play after college yeah yeah it was uh Eric Decker and uh we became like best boys he's lives in Nashville super nice guy but having him there was a [ __ ] blessing because man that was I mean you know if you've been there you know it's it's work man it I feel like I was in a [ __ ] 8we training camp for like a heavyweight fight it was uh it was deep yeah I mean I think for me and just to give some uh you some context and maybe some uh um just to fill it out a little more for the audience um you know a lot of folks uh you know will have a therapist right um and they'll see them whether it's once a month or maybe once a week and they sit on the couch and they talk shed a tear every now and again that's great right and I think that's to me um and again we're speaking about on-site which I went for my first time four or five years ago um you know that's uh those are sort of Band-Aids um and I'm not and I'm not criticizing that but just BAS B on my experience if talk therapy once a week or once a month or whenever those are Banda dates M places like onsite Hoffman other modalities that's surgery yeah and so I mean it changed my life and that's why I kept going back in fact I just did a tuneup probably six months ago with with the therapist that I met at onsite who's now um out on his own but yeah man it was it was I wasn't crying I didn't think I was going to the death chair I was nervous and excited um I was you know I was alone they put me alone I don't know what that says about me but but when I didn't know anyone there was alone I was all alone I didn't see I saw people in the in the dining area yeah but outside of that I stayed alone I worked alone and this and and even more um backstory I mean it's you know and you know this I mean it's for those listening it I mean it was they're 10hour days hell yeah for four or five days straight um and they take your stuff you know it was fun funny for me cuz we all these St these [ __ ] phones right and and they take everything like the Apple watch okay give it up like so computer iPad phone anything any and look people could sneak them in of course you could sneak anything in yeah but you'd have to be crazy to pay that kind of bread and go there and sneak that kind of [ __ ] in cuz so I give it up and you know the like the first day you're like hey where oh yeah they took it second day I'm like man it's kind of nice yeah third day I'm like this is amazing and then the fourth or fifth whenever they give them back yeah I was like no no no no no no just do you mind keeping them for maybe like a month I just couldn't wait to call my wife cuz I put her through hell and back so I couldn't wait to call her and explain a bunch of [ __ ] I'm glad I'm glad you did that yeah that's why we do things like that because the people in our lives that we love and care about that's and and and for you and I think you know the reason you know I went and you you said it right I didn't realize you know in the way we sorted without getting into a lot of my work or your work but I can just talk about some of the um the te the techniques or tactics you know we you know we did a thing you know like a like a trauma egg right where you you layer in literally anything that's happened to your life if somebody when you were 11 said you know what you're a little you're a little punk ass [ __ ] you still remember it today whatever I mean if somebody flipped you off 5 years a go when you're riding whatever it is or even worse something with a loved one a parent um any kind of assault sexual assault um anything you you put that in the egg and and then you just you see it all there and you're like okay because the world Associates and and as they should they asso associate trauma and PTSD with with our veterans um but which is true but that that doesn't mean that athletes don't have trauma that doesn't mean that CEO don't have trauma that doesn't mean that wives don't have trauma so yeah that's rad dude I didn't I didn't know that you I mean I knew you were living in in Nashville but yeah that was special yeah to your point like I was saying earlier I didn't think I had trauma until I went there and started writing all the [ __ ] on the wall and they're like what about this and how what would this person represent of these animals I was like h fire breathing drag fire breathing dragon and uh it was just uh it was eye openening but yet to your point about the kids like someone could say something to you that sticks with you like I remember at one point my mother married some guy from Alabama it's a crazy story I don't even know if I've ever told it before and we were in like the second grade and my mother moves to Alabama like away from my dad who my only real connection with him was through sports but now I was like all on and these kids were like [ __ ] bullying me bad I was just a little kid and they like knocked me down at the football game and the kid was standing over me he's like what are you going to do about this and even now when I think about it I'm so enraged that I'm like with my own kids I'm like anytime someone has a problem with you you will always be better served to try to fight because at least if you fight and lose everyone else sees that you're not going to be pushed around and no one else no one wants a fight so if they know you'll fight back they're going to leave you alone and with my kids I'm like there's four of you you should be able to handle this anything that comes your way so I've like tried to emphasize and my kids like stick together so as a result they're like a pack of hyenas and I've seen them do it and they like really do stick together but yeah all those things add up and um going there and seeing it all in one place and seeing it all written down was eye openening and um yeah definitely changed my life and made me feel like [ __ ] I've got some things to fix well I know I mean you know I mean for you know this podcast is about me but I will say real quick like um you know it's you could look at your you know you think about your upbringing you think about your parent all the things that happen to kids right parents getting divorced there certainly worst scenarios like assault any kind of assault um and you know I certainly had a [ __ ] up youth right that that you're just like wow that I mean I spent most of my life just going well that sucked yeah I'm with but the reality is um which all of that needed to be addressed anyways but um you know what's happened in my life the last now 10 years I mean you can't not you can't have gone through the experience that I went through the last 10 years without having PTSD straight up and so it just you know it took this little unraveling and then I was glad man it was it was been the best thing I ever did that's cool speaking of kids this is uh for those and you can find it on the internet you know you're hearing Ken talk right this guy just encourages kids to beat the [ __ ] out of other kids stick together stick together defend yourself never ever start a fight so don't be a bully I was just having fun with that but you listen to the guy right you know you worked in a prison I'm certainly not want to get in a fight he's going to all the MMA fights with Dana White he's at you know he's got a boxing podcast with Teddy Atlas which we're going to talk about all this stuff but just go look at you hear in this guy right you're like Jesus this guy's looks like he musts have jump through the mic and kick my ass but go ahead go on the internet here you have Kenny you've got his beautiful wife you've got these three beautiful white boys yeah and then you get right there what this this little Ethiopian girl my princess yeah ex thank you I mean that's that's was and you know people ask me about Kenny's like man that dude's that dude's intense I said I don't want to hear anymore just go look at the family photo right like that to me that that's like hul pass for years like I'm just like wait I mean and we've talked a little bit about it but give the audience like how did we end up I think it's amazing yeah well when I when I met my wife I said to her I want to um adopt children because again reflecting on my own childhood I I feel so lucky I mean I have a degree from in sociology from Framingham State College I went to New York and was able to have like a fairly successful Finance career and make more money than I ever dreamed of and I don't say that to be like hey look at me I made a lot of money relative to rich people I wouldn't say I'm rich but I I would have never thought that I would do the things that I did so when I met my wife I was like I feel I'm not um I'm not very uh spiritual but I would say that I felt like if I don't do something to help someone else with the like gifts that I've been given it ain't going to work well for me and I said to I want to make a difference in someone else's life I mean I we would have adopted as many kids as we could afford but the adoption process is dude she's the oldest yeah if you don't want to ad she just turned 13 right which we can talk about trying to raise a teenage daughter I'd rather get whacked in the head with a hammer than try to have like a a sensible conversation with about it's but um so yeah when when we started the adoption process it actually was pretty smooth as soon as we got married we started it we started trying to have our own kids too and neither of us had any identifiable medical problems but she wasn't getting pregnant we did seven rounds of inv vitro three miscarriages it was a nightmare and I was like all along though I thought it'll it's going to work out well it'll all sort itself out so in the process of trying to have our own kids the adoption gets approved we go and get her she's newborn deathly sick she weighed like I don't know 7bs at 4 months like Ser severely malnourished born in Ethiopia y we went and got her in the orphanage my wife lived you went to Ethiopia oh yeah my wife lived there for two months with custody of her because after you get you go you go and adopt then she's yours then the pro the uh Embassy has to process the paperwork which is about eight weeks so most people that have jobs that don't have this luxury we like okay we'll come back in two months but soon as they hand her to you like it would be like giving birth to to a daughter and they be like all right be back in 2 months to G I was like we not leaving if if staying is the option we'll stay so my wife stayed I went back and forth a couple times and and I had to work but she lived in Adis aaba and a guest us dude it was it was rough man we checked into that room there was no mattress just a box spring and I'm like guys the mattress is missing they're like no no that's that's the bed I'm like there's no bed it's like a hardwood floor my wife was like it's fine I go you're going to be here for eight weeks she's like I'll get an egg crate or something I'm like where Costco it's like you know you're in a saaba so she lived there and then literally I the while we were there getting custody she must have gotten pregnant that week so when she came home she was two months pregnant and she got pregnant on that box spring so it was okay no I just want to make sure I heard that right she got a pregnant and you should have tried the Ethiopian box spring before you did seven rounds of IVF I was [ __ ] anything to like keep the flow going anything to like keep trying I was the best at trying but uh so when she came home she my son was due on my daughter's first birthday so we only had her home for you know eight months six months before cuz she came home at four months and then yeah and then he was a month early so all the kids birthdays are within five weeks she was like had that one fertile window annually and got pregnant every two years so now we have three boys 12 10 and 8 that's amazing yeah yeah man uh Middle School girls it doesn't make any sense it's completely irrational well it must make some sense because it's totally consistent and I say to her I want you to [ __ ] treat me as nicely as you treat your friends I everything that you want I hope you don't say it like that more or less I go everything you have you want Lululemon shorts for no reason okay you want a jordes okay and then you come home and you give me the bad attitude I don't understand you're like you couldn't be nicer to your friends they're the coolest people in the world I'm a jerk somehow cuz I will say come and say hello to me when you come home from school it's just it makes no sense but it's been a struggle man honestly I have two that have gone through that period and now Olivia our Olivia is is 12 so it's the same thing it's it's yeah yeah you know she's like Dad I want to go to the Drake concert so you get on like whatever seek geek or whatever I'm like whoa okay my daughter tlor no she she went to Taylor Swift at Broncos stadium I summer and I U uh I hear you all the fathers listening with middle school girls are just like they're just like see they come out of it like I don't SPO I don't spoil them by any means usually if they want something out of the ordinary like if she wants Lululemon short usually I'm like all right I'll pay for half of them but you just have to have some you have to have some like skin in the game you can't just get whatever you want but [ __ ] like that she's like oh Taylor Swift is in Nashville tonight I'm like where going I go let's do this pull up the internet I'm like $2,000 for nose please I'm like I'm sorry girl unless we know someone who can help us I can't do it $4,000 to sit up in the freaking [ __ ] seats in in a football stadium or watch a concert I go watch the Youtube special but that was like and in that one I was like I'm just not doing it I'm sorry I'd rather give you $1,000 than spend four to go to this concert and be unhappy oh she she she don't want that um does she uh I'm just curious I mean I know some of course adoptions kind of vary but some sometimes there's contact for the with the yeah we're in contact with her mom we met her when we were there my wife stays in contact with her and they use Google Translate and talk back and forth just a young girl really nice super religious um interestingly my wife when we were trying to we met her while we were there but literally the agency sells you like a line of [ __ ] they're like oh she doesn't speak Amar she's speaking some other dialect and we have Ethiopian professional Runner friends that I was like look at this video what's she speaking they're like she's speaking Amar I'm like then why the [ __ ] is The Interpreter acting like we needed to inter they just don't want you in contact with them with the with the birth parents to avoid the look of like fraud like you're paying the mom or something right so we Shelby put on a Ethiopian adopt adoption group on Facebook like hey my daughter's name is this the mom's name is this and a woman like a day or two later calls sends her a message and says my children are your birth mom's brother and sister I adopted them from your birth mom's mom they live with us in New Hampshire so T they're only like a year or two older than tensei so she has an aunt and uncle in New Hampshire we we we speak to them we haven't met them in person but like they'll call the house on like holidays when they're in DC with the extended Ethiopian film of course tensei wants nothing to do with it she doesn't want to be adopted she doesn't even want to acknowledge that she's adopted nothing she doesn't want to talk next question like is that even of Interest I think when she's older she'll she we'll go back and meet her but like now we Shel is in constant contact with the mom so we haven't like lost track of her so at some point we definitely will we're planning on it but right probably she's just a regular American Middle School 100% with her freaking braces and her Lululemon stuff and yeah dude she's just like a typical American Girl Sports she does but unfortunately for tensei she didn't get too many athletic jeans she um she loves music and like creative stuff and uh she's playing lacrosse cuz her friends play but uh yeah and your boys you said the youngest was like a the youngest is a n he's a killer he's a killer I mean every time he gets the ball in football boom to the house they have to take him out of the games and but he but I will say this of all my kids he's the kindest nicest kid he's super friendly he even said to me he's like Dad did you see when that kid pushed me when I hand him his flag back I said what did you say I said oh I didn't say anything that we were killing them what was I going to do on top of it beat him up I was like good boy yeah he got Dad's sporting jeans and mom's mom sporting jeans and and and sort of Personality no Mom's the athlete for sure she's 10 times more athletic than I am on a relative basis I'm a [ __ ] athlete I'm just trying hard okay I wasn't really good at anything I mean I played football and hockey in college division three but I was like just there [ __ ] in division three like if you can run from one end of the field to the other without falling down like you're on the team yeah all right get in there Ken but uh hockey I was okay University of what what did you say Framingham State College never even heard of that of Framingham mous that's what they call it um let's talk about boxing for a second because I know you're uh you know crazy about it and in MMA but you you have the podcast with with Teddy you you guys still do that right yeah every Monday every Monday every Monday why wouldn't you just do it after like a big fight do on what if there's no fights there's always some fights there's always and if there you got to watch them I love it I love it my wife's like oh we got a party on Saturday I'm like not for me I'm working I got to watch these damn fights oh you're such she's like DVR exactly I go I don't want to blow it someone's gonna put on Twitter what happened I can't miss it no we we we manage it but yeah there's always something and then if there's not we'll do like fight plans like a preview of upcoming fights where we get in the ring and walk through what to look for from each guy like okay if this guy this is what this guy can do to win watch him like faint with the job and then he should step in behind it do XYZ and then in the course of doing that at one point Teddy and I trained Alex vosik I was like his assistant trainer Alex vosic was Olympic bronze medalist he had the WBC light heavyweight title and we fought arter babv who was The ibf Undefeated Russian champion and we had a um huge Pay-Per-View fight ESPN pay-per-view in Philly we lived in Philly for eight weeks in a training camp it was crazy didn't go home once it was like wow we were getting ready for the Super Bowl I mean this was a unification fight two undefeated Champions it was a wild experience I mean crazy you get in the ring you get in the ring let him put on the pads dude no way this these [ __ ] light heavyweight champion of the world dude he was beating up the sparring partners the pads let him hit your oh no no no Teddy Ted imagine being in preparing for a Super Bowl and uh parcel of bellich the coach there was no [ __ ] about this was like deadly serious business Teddy wasn't at one point we had sparring partners so I would work the corter for The Spar ing partner and Teddy was just I mean he's all business there it's like we're friends but he was like he was like Bill parcel's type just nuts and he was like uh Ken work the corner for this guy Chim kich Turkish undefeated um super middleweight and because you know the super middle weight is a little bit weight below but they're always heavier prior to cutting weight so they were the same size so he's like and Alex is just tuning him up and and and chem's a pro fighter so at one point he's coming back to the corner I'm like CH move your [ __ ] head like don't just stand right and Teddy's like hey Angelo Dundee I told you don't coach him in between the rounds he's doing exactly what I told him to do but Teddy was like controlling the flow he didn't want the kid to get beat up if Alex was tuning him up he'd be like all right stop that chem I want you to do XYZ Alex I just want you to work on slipping punches like so he wasn't letting the kid get beat up like some some camps like with Mayweather and some of those guys they'll bring guys in and just beat the [ __ ] out of them which is C productive to every get guys hurt not we can't find anybody exactly 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purchases of over a 100 bucks again true classic.com thememove what is your take because I I I I I went to you know I got to know uh Jake Paul and and that whole crew through hvm men which I know you work with um and so we went to the fight we went to this Jake Paul Nate Diaz fight and oh in Dallas in Dallas my son well they they invited me down and I thought well you know that could be I mean by the way it's at American Airlines Arena 20,000 people sold out I think sport I think fights are the best sporting event in the world by I've I've been to a lot of other fights I mean I've been to three Tyson Furies and a bunch of uh crawfords and um anyway so it's it's it was it's it's unlike anything it's not what I expected when I first went to a fight I was like this shit's going to be crazy like it's nonsense it's not like it's it's more because it gets so quiet during I mean it gets loud obviously any anytime somebody lands something the place erupts but if they're just moving and and and positioning it's dead silent which is the cool part and that you my wife has been all of them with me and she's like this is not what I expected right was all the pageantry and then just the the way the whole thing unfolds but so we go to the the Jake Paul fight which you know my brought my son my older son he loved it um but what's your take on this uh you know a fighter like Jake Paul that's that you know didn't come from fighting yeah I've got huge respect for anyone that would walk into the ring and fight another man for money right they're fighting and um I mean that's I I left with the same thing I mean I got you know I know they you you you hear I really wasn't sure what you were going to say right you you hear everything from you know some Fighters going this is [ __ ] don't don't you know get out of my sport listen it's not highlevel fighting but to to think that a dude in his fifth fight is fighting undef fighting former UFC okay they're UFC but they're still professional fighters right to think that you could do that like by by contrast you look at someone like Canelo or tank Davis that are superstars and it's not necessarily a knock on them but the natural progression for a pro fighter is to fight 10 tomato cans and literally if you look at the record of tank Davis he might have fought Five Guys that had like two wins between them and a 100 losses I'm exaggerating a little but if you look at their early records any pro you pick a pro look at the first 10 opponents I'll guarantee you that none of them had a winning record with the exception of someone like Vil lomachenko in his second Pro fight now he's two-time Olympic gold medalist second Pro fight ever he fights for a legitimate World title and loses a decision comes back and avenges it and beats him but the pro and amateur games are so different it's a big adjustment for amateurs right cuz in amateurs you're scoring on points they're super fast their hands move so fast they're just trying to touch you as many times not anymore they removed that because it's like gives a false sense of security and let you take much more extensive concussive blows so now they like like with the UFC if you get hit a shot you're better off almost to go down than to just get a concussion type blow over and over and sustained over the course of the fight so no more headgear in the amateurs so like in the Olympics next summer there will not be head gear correct wow I didn't know most corrupt sport on Earth by the way Olympic boxing oh my god there was a I think in 2012 aaban like bribed like several uh officials aiba officials like Association of international boxing or something Teddy was calling the fights and Teddy called it out like at one point a Japanese fight a lost to a guy from Azan the guy from aan got knocked down like three times and he still won and Teddy went crazy and they were like yeah you can't call the fights anymore they made him call the last um two days from a closet in the arena but not ringside wow and eventually they the Olympic [ __ ] caned AA they did away with that I mean it was so corrupt it was like based in aaban or some former Soviet country crazy corrupt right but but back to Jake Paul so in and then and maybe I saw it because I watched his documentary um I think it was on it was uh Untold on on Netflix but they had Tyson in there Tyson said listen asses and seats I'm a fan 100% And I roll up that night I'm like I don't I mean I know this place you know they play basketball to 16,000 people and there's a little ass ring in the middle of it it's going to be I was shocked I was like this is a show I would say this like the kids like we had them on the show and I said anyone who hates Jake Paul hates themselves this is the American dream you might not like the way you might not like his personality but this guy was like Hey I'm going to entertain you and you're going to pay me and we do and like what's you can dislike the character and stuff but like what what has he done he's challenging people to fights and and no matter who he fights like he should fight someone better you'll say he should fight someone better until he fights [ __ ] Crawford and loses like what's the difference two guys are going to get in a fight how much to watch I'll do that I think one of my the most fun fighting events ever is the uh rough and rowdy on on bar stool everyone they have I buy it it's like a Pay-Per-View online thing and they just take people basically from like the crowd in Virginia and let them fight each other in a boxing ring it's so entertaining I love it so anytime someone's like hey I'm going to fight your wife's like we have a party tonight no no Ruff and Rowdy is on Ruff and Rowdy's always on a Friday so I usually get away with that one what's amazing I mean he basically put the fight on yeah and which isn't easy it isn't easy but there's a whole crewp for that but you like you think I'm putting the fight on this is my production this is my party guy the kid walks out 20,000 I mean like 19 ,500 of them were just lighting him up booing I'm like whoa I thought this was your party I was shocked and then n Diz comes out the place goes nuts I'm like are you sure like how is this I was I was blown away yeah I I love it I I think what he's doing is great any like I said anytime someone's like hey I'll fight you for money like oh cool I'm I'm I'm here for that yeah I will say you know and I haven't trained with him but by all accounts man he trains hard oh he's got he's does real professional boxer training yeah he's got a facility in in Puerto Rico he's the real deal yeah I mean he's he's got on the bike he's training they sent me a picture of him on the bike the other day yeah he's got the new CLL he's got the helmet he's bike shoes flipped in everything oh all right yeah nothing pisses me off more than when you see like Conor McGregor riding a road bike shorts and a tank top no helmet sneakers with with platform pedals and the seat is like 6 in too low and he's just like elbows out of my that's like a pet PE every time someone rides by me with a saddle too low I'm like yo you see it's too low most of the time they'll turn around like really I'm like yeah man it's way too low you feel funny yeah I can't help it my wife be like why did he even bother saying anything I'm like I don't know seat tool I was helping him I wasn't trying to be a jerk right right no I agree with that man um let's go back to Ronnie for a second cuz I I have to talk about this which I mean like when woke up I don't know three year two years ago whenever it was that the whole world started saying the world's fastest 50-year-old I was like wait a second this is the same guy who was always talking [ __ ] on me and want to go and then then I then you know you know not that long ago I open up and he's halfway around the world I don't even know how to describe it I'll let you do it but you're running some race in Mongolia you're wearing a backpack you're and this is looks you obviously looks very different than any kind of marathon picture you're you're running around in the desert alone mhm and I'm like oh he's totally lost it to is [ __ ] crazy a friend of mine who works at equinox Gary Brown he says Hey a guy the president of Equinox former dean of Michigan business school um Scott Dar he wants to meet you and I was like oh cool connect me he's like oh by the way I'm doing this race in Mongolia called the GOI March it's a selfs supported Six-Day stage race so every day predetermined like 20 to 50 miles for six days and you have to carry everything except water and a tent that they provide and um I don't know why food you got to carry everything spare shoes everything clothes shoes minimum safety equipment sleeping bag everything anything you want clean clothes you don't need to take clean clothes you had to have certain minimum things you had to have a a down jacket because it got cold it night you had to have long pants shorts four pairs of socks you know and some basic basic requirements my backpack was way too heavy I I didn't know what the [ __ ] I was doing so the guy told me this and I said to my wife just I don't even know why I still don't know why I just looked at her and I said am I crazy to think that I could go and do this and win this race and she's like yeah you're crazy but you always talk about doing things outside of your comfort zone so [ __ ] do it you preach this stuff all the time dud take your own medicine I got to meet your wife by the way I never met your wife ni dude my wife you know my wife has like a Tik Tok sensation she put up a Tik Tok the other day she was on The Today Show she got like 20 million views in a week she does like little things with the kids like lesson plan and my [ __ ] son's frog jumped out of the cage and got stuck in the wall so she was like staking it out for like 6 hours waiting until it popped out cuz she couldn't get it and then when she caught it and that's the one that was on the Today's Show it's crazy so she was like yeah go for it okay and then I was like yeah it's probably going to be like 25 Grand she's like yeah forget we'll take the kids to Hawaii so a bunch of uh I'm lucky that a bunch of brands that I work with were nice enough to step up like Equinox reok hvmn athletic greens athletic Brewing we both love um they came through and helped me put this whole thing together and but then dude this m put like professional athletes in perspective me because I was like holy [ __ ] there are a lot of people like watching and thinking I can win this race like the pressure is oh I was like I mean in my mind they were no one said like we expect you to win but afterwards when I did win the guy uh Chris Chris um at athletic Brewing was like holy [ __ ] I can't believe you won I'm like what the [ __ ] are you talking about you can't believe I won what are you he's like d you know how many people call us and tell us they're going to do X Y and Z can we help out and blah blah no one ever does it I'm like well good I'm glad you had a good experience so I I would never do that I would do a lot of things I would never it was awful they were like when are you doing the next one I'm like never right even for 100 grand I wouldn't do it yeah I think you said I heard you say somewhere that um the T you know if if it were like five star hotels and you'd consider eat and sleep in a hotel and just suff during the day like what are you eating like just what literally [ __ ] you buy at like camping food you buy at um at Ari you know you pour hot water in it it it it's dehydrated like gross rice and chicken it actually wasn't that bad did you bring some back honey no dude I was out of everything shees she's like you feed the kids and you're like I got some of this [ __ ] I still have a few left but I was like Scavenging for food from other people cuz as it got later in the race I had just the minimum you had to have a minimum of 2,000 calories a day which by the way on I was measuring all my [ __ ] on whoop and I was burning um 10 to 12,000 calories a day and consuming 22 to 2500 so by the last day I was like I'm gonna [ __ ] I'm so hungry right and so I was like getting anything people would throw half a food half a thing away I'm like are you going to eat the rest of that strangers they were like no I'm like give that to me dude it was like to me we were in like survival many can't be that 125 yeah I would and probably 10 were competitive in the first day I and that's the fields full that's not like hey that's there's only 125 idiots in the world where they say we're capping it n dude there was so many like precautions like they had to have the these buses follow us everywhere through the desert so they had to have somewhat we were never on a road or even narrow road these buses were driving through like the desert and the pastures because one day like a lightning storm came and they were like everyone getting the bus like they had a contingency emergency Escape Plan every day if crazy weather rolled in so we'd get on get on the bus to ride through the um till the till the lightning passed and um on the LA so going through the race on the first day I get blown out I finish in fourth I'm like holy [ __ ] A friend of mine uh who runs banking at Deutsche um James Davies he said to me man if you could get top five or even top 10 at that race it would be incredible and I was like are you [ __ ] C I'm winning this race like I'm telling you right like I don't know I believed it but I was trying to convince myself even find Mongolia on a map and you want to win yeah so then I sent the text to Rich Ro cuz I knew he knew about these race I said hey Rich goldby March what do you know he's like dude claimed many a good Ultra Runners I've never run an ultra in my life claim man an ultra Runner someone died there in 2010 be careful if you're going to do that I told him when I did his show in July it hasn't come out yet I said when you told me that I was like [ __ ] Rich thinks that this is too tough for me [ __ ] [ __ ] rich I'm going to kill this face but these are the things that I have to tell myself to do this cuz I didn't want to do it when I was getting on the plane to go there I was like what have I done what have I done Everyone's Watching I just want to remind The Listener because this part of the show when when you're getting a lot of candid [ __ ] this and [ __ ] that and [ __ ] this and [ __ ] you and [ __ ] just go back to the part of the show where the Ethiopian adopted daughter like that's that's the we got to keep no man I'm living a life of service don't misinterpret the words that's my defense me do you see like people out like like uh like Lo not locals but like Nomads hell yeah it was they're just like cruising like they have no idea that y'all we ran past herders every step of the way it was like just rolling pastures in desert so they'd be like you know like uh and they don't know the race is coming yeah no yeah the the I think that the organizers go through cuz they tie up the dogs dude they had Mongolian Shepherds that were like gigantic German Shepherds and a couple times we went by and the guy was the Swiss guy who I was really competing with we were together most of the time off the front he had pulls I didn't so anytime they came I would like liter I wouldn't even ask him I just snatch a pole I'm like dude this [ __ ] dog's coming and then thank God the dog would come and then he would spark and stop but I was like I mean it was it was like a wolf just I want to be really clear if I would have seen a picture of you with PS we're not doing this podcast the crazy thing is if I had the plls I wouldn't have got beaten so bad the first day we were going going up the side of a mountain it was like it was like a black diamond ski slope no not on a trail just up the side of the mountain through the trees go up there bushes bugs uh you know cow [ __ ] it was crazy we crossed like six Rivers every race every day so your shoes are soaked you know we're like waste deep in the water and the water isn't like some of it wasn't very clean it was it was I'm sure it's not it was crazy I would just got into this mode of though of like this isn't this is not forever there are people out there doing much harder [ __ ] thought about like military Special Forces guys like Mitch Hall doing this stuff with someone trying to kill them and that would literally put everything into perspective for me I'm like toughen the [ __ ] up just get this over with let's go just empty the tank we'll get to the camp and chill so after the first day I was like I'm I'm I might be lucky to get in the top five right and then the second day was 28 miles and I just went out purposely slow and eventually we were just me the Israeli there was an Israeli Special Forces guy that was real good and the Swiss guy were just running and then I looked back and they were gone and I couldn't even see them and I'm like but I knew I wasn't off the course and I just stayed steady and one that day was down like 12 minutes and then on the fourth day we did 50 miles and me and the Swiss guy were way off the front and slowly he was like dude I got to walk but at this point it wasn't like we're going to kill each other cuz there was almost a responsibility We're alone in the desert and there's like checkpoints like 9 miles apart you almost couldn't carry enough water to get to the next one it's hot and now the middle of the day it we doing 50 miles and it's like 3:00 hot during the day and cold and cold at night so he like I got to walk a little I'm like all let's walk then he's like dude I got to sit down I'm like dude please don't sit down in the desert like we have to keep let's just get to the next checkpoint you'll get water so now at this point he I'm giving him my water I'm dumping my water on his head I'm trying to carry his backpack and he was like no no no no just let me rest for a second I'm like I can't leave him but I wouldn't but I I can't leave him there you know and and just take off he's sitting down they might not ever see him again and then eventually a support like a 4x4 Ford Raptor truck came by and I was like hey and then they like started giving him Aid and I was like are you good you guys good here and then I just took off and that day I took like a 90-minute lead and that was it that was it yeah hardest thing you've ever done by Miles right I mean cuz marathons are hard I mean this is not that's not even on the same Stratosphere so you say Obviously it is the farthest you've ever run um a marathon probably wasn't the farthest or maybe it was the farthest you've ever run before that yeah it was yeah okay so it's but marathons are hard like especially if you have a bad one it's a different kind of hard man cuz in the marathon like you said if you do it right you got a hard 10K the first 20 shouldn't be hard it's uncomfortable but like bearable yeah then you get into that like okay all the all the lights are blinking and all the freaking dashboards exploding but you know you've only got a mile or two this was more like managing that load for like hours at a time see forever yeah and only the last day was like five you could see a mountain range barely in the distance you know I have to get over that mountain range and then onto the next mountain range that you can't even see but on um the last day was like five miles and I had a 90minut Le the stage was five miles yeah just a ceremonial last stage one put into the one before this be done into the last into the um kind of ceremonial into the town the gangas Khan like Fortress like a walled City it was really cool but it was behind a m over a mountain small Mountain you just had to get up and over at five miles and um uh a um South African kid said to me like man you got it you're G to take it easy you're gonna like let someone else win this stage and I had visions of like thinking about the tour I was like I would never let someone win are you crazy we're [ __ ] racing and sure enough me and the Swiss guy got into like a foot race I mean we I was sprinting I you got to carry the pack on the five m at that point there's no food left you just have like a backpack I mean a um sleeping bag and your basic like you could do five miles without all that [ __ ] they make you keep yeah yeah oh yeah yeah yeah you have to finish with everything and you run into this wall City and so I just took off and I was like I have to represent the race I can't disrespect the leader Jersey and come in in second so even on the last day I was like almost killed myself cuz at that point it was crazy how your body adjusts and adapt you would think like how am I going to run a marathon every day if I told you we're going to run 100 miles this week think oh [ __ ] that's a huge workload I would say that but this was like you know 155 miles in 6 days but it was like anything like recovery you're just like like like addiction recovery you're just like let me just worry about today let me just get through this day come back lay down and I'll deal with tomorrow tomorrow everyone's going to be dealing with the same [ __ ] that was what really kept me going I was like everyone has to recover the next day it's not like someone here is going to be some phenomenal like different hum different species who can recover quickly we're all going to be be hurting by the end I'm just going to assume that I'll be hurting less or be willing to hurt more you get the hell out of there afterwards oh immediately did you I mean I mean I don't know maybe maybe the the the you know the places around gask Khan's you know chatau or whatever the buck you just split yeah we we took the buses back to the uh Anan bat the capital and uh next morning 6 a.m. boom out of there hope you w flying in the back for that I just told you I'm a big baby I got to stay at the nicest hotel flying for class yeah that's right I spent my whole childood in coach I'm done with it your wife well I should have known that when you said it was 20 grand to go over there I should have been like well that's an expensive coach Su it was too too long of a flight especially from Nashville I had to connect a couple times really you told me you're writing a book yeah I mean everybody listening to this podast podcast is like this why don't you just put some of this down on on paper yeah yeah about the life about the well doesn't have to be or it could just be a you know kind kind of like like what I've learned like Lessons Learned and things that I've experienced and how I dealt with them because listen I can be very self-deprecating and get down on myself when you go through that kind of addiction it's hard not to like have a lot of self-loathing it's hard I'm sure you've experienced this you you can get along with your thoughts and convince yourself you're a complete and total piece of [ __ ] not just okay I made a mistake let's fix this you treat yourself 10 times worse than you would treat another person you talk to yourself in a way you would never speak to another people person at least I do and um you know I think that some of the experiences I've had and some of the things that I've done to deal with the adversity that I've been through some of it self-induced um is valuable information and I think that you know if you apply some of these techniques to your own life I think think that you can overcome anything like when I came back from the goby race I was like I wasn't trying to be arrogant I was like what else can I do could I win Leadville could I win bad water and I wasn't saying like I'll smash those people like but but if I'm going to win at anything like I have to believe it first and and I think a lot of times people are afraid to State their intentions or state their beliefs because you don't want to come across as arrogant or disrespectful but the truth is if you don't believe it why should anyone else like you have to believe in yourself so just a lot of these things that I've f get out on my own or through therapy or however I think that there is some lessons that I can um impart or or advice that I can impart on others to deal with some of the things some of the things that I've dealt with might be relatable when I Shar this stuff and started sharing talks about the addiction like you wouldn't believe they people came out of the woodwor like I'm going through this right now and I was like listen I'm not in a position to counsel others I'm like barely surviving but if if hearing my experience in my journey helps people to take the first step because that's the most important is like being willing to go to onsite is a huge step you thought you were going to the electric chair when I was driving there I was like going I was going to check into prison for the week weekend I wasn't like I can't wait to get there we're going to the Bahamas this weekend I was like I didn't you know I'd go back right now I'd leave right now yeah but it's like the goldby desert it's like you do these things that you know are going to be hard but the only way to get better and to grow is to be uncomfortable and go through these these moments of like discomfort if you're just like [ __ ] getting up every day and being like yeah things are good I got money um I'm going to go to take kids to practice come home have a drink like what the [ __ ] like the clock's running there's no injury timeouts there's no TV timeout the clock's going to run one day is gone if you don't do anything today not that I'm saying you have to do [ __ ] every day but there should be personal and professional goals and for me the running is just that's I got four kids the only thing that I have that's mine is my running I get up and do it before they wake up but I think that it's a mistake when people don't prioritize their own physical and mental health so my wife will say like when we went skiing an aspen last winter and she every day before we ski I run every day 10 miles appreciate it I knew you wouldn't answer so when uh when I I was like I heard kins in town I haven't heard from I ran I run every day but my wife knows she's like just go get it over with so we can go enjoy the day and you don't have to have this hanging over your head and she so in that regard she's supportive of it but I think people doing the themselves a disservice when they're like I don't have time the kids have this the kids have that if you don't prioritize yourself and your own the things that you have to do like you're going to be useless to everyone and and I'm just not a good dad or a husband if I don't do something to take care of myself I follow I follow this guy and and actually invested in this company Michael chernell who's got a really cool young oatmeal company called creatures of habit he and I just caught this yesterday on his Instagram and he was talking about the very and he's uh he's in recovery uh but it was it went very badly um almost to death or was dead it depends on how that goes came back guy's a beast but he I saw this clip and he was like the most important person in the world is me yeah like I love me more because if I don't love me then I can't love my wife I can't love my kids I can't love my best friend I can't love my brother it was I'll send it to you it was it's funny as this literally word for word and the guy is a [ __ ] monster you have to do the best way when people are like you do that every day like I'm like you don't do that every day you don't do something for yourself every day like your life isn't you know my kids aren't [ __ ] Fab eggs they're children I'm raising them I'm like but they've got to experience some stuff on their own they've got to deal with some things figure some stuff out I'm not going to be there to hold their hand when they get out of college and go stop working you know what I mean you see I hear a story the other day some dude's dad was emailing a buddy of mine like hey my son's getting out of school he wants an internship I was like what can you imagine this is but this is like the the the the the culture that we're we're living in it's like can you imagine 20 years ago someone being like yeah my dad's trying to get me an internship he's sending emails out I mean it's one thing to be like hey Lance I know you got a production company my son's really into production we know each other okay but a cold email to a stranger like talking up your son who's what [ __ ] is wrong with you like type an email to this guy and send it yeah the uh uh here's what I wish man for you I I I I I I hope you write a this is I'm just I'm have fun with this I hope you write a bestseller and what happens when you write a bestseller then you go on the the speaking circuit right all right first company I'm hiring the bestselling author Ken WR out he gets up to the podium he's going to 30 minutes of remarks maybe 15 minutes of Q&A all right listen [ __ ] this is you you're all [ __ ] and [ __ ] this and I would never talk like that one and done no I would never talk like it goes in the notes like the the speakers Bureau is like wow you know he came out with listen [ __ ] I'm speaking to the um uh all of the Massachusetts pension plans um in at a conference in um in two weeks in Springfield so like all the um you know County and municipality all the allocators they they most of them deal with Consultants but all those allocators um come together for a conference and I'm going to get to address them and uh I still do some work for um different funds like private Equity Venture and I've raised the uh I've raed ra money for a lot of funs over last few years and um yeah it's uh well let me know how it goes yeah for sure I've done a bunch of I've spoken to a bunch of elementary schools too I have a whole different I know you can come on I know you can control that all right before I let you go so I have to ask because you're you know we're we're here in Austin I moov back you're here I'm here and you're with this guy jelly roll my man that's my best friend and so I cuz I watched I had really heard of it like I I listen to a lot of music mus and I I listen to country music I heard the names but I saw the documentary like 3 months ago and I was like now this is a story like if y'all haven't seen this jelly roll and I forget if it's on Showtime or Max on Hulu I said if y'all haven't seen I mean this story is crazy yeah he's the best guy so I met him at the um we live in a in a uh on a golf course in Nashville so when I went in there uh he saw me at he's a big boxing fan and he saw me at the club and was like oh I love the show with Teddy so I'm talking to him and he's a big guy so one of one of the waitresses came over and was like you know that that's a jelly roll I'm like no do you know who that I'm like no who's that and when so when I tell people oh do you know who jell is they're like no I'm like he's definitely the most famous person you don't know if you don't know who he is but when I got there I I joke with him all the time like he couldn't get arrested we we my friend Jamie harowitz was an exec at WWE and wrestling was in town and he loves wrestling so I'm like you want to go sit ringside on the WWE sure we go there together he had one security guy with him but you know a few people were like hey jelly roll 18 months later he sells out Bridgestone Arena 177,000 people we can't go anywhere I mean went to dinner last night he had two security guards with them like it was crazy and he's such a nice guy that people are just like all over him and a and a crazy Journey crazy Journey like you can't I was watching this like come on this I mean it's dude it's next level story I was telling someone this this morning his Chef is uh used to be a fighter uh used to be a um he's a fighter he was a chef for a nutritionist for a lot of Fighters he goes to the fight camps and helps him cut weight and he's traveling now with jelly and I was saying to him like you know a lot of people they see this southern guy he's kind of he's overweight it's easy to assume he's like not intelligent but when you talk to him he comes out with some things sometimes I'm like what he he's incredibly intelligent and he notices everything and remembers everything and I identify with that cuz I do too even with my kids I'm like who left this rapper for the straw here like if you do that and everyone does that that means I've got to pick up eight straws every day like why don't we just all take care of our own business but we were sitting there at that restaurant and I was eating the Pickled cucumbers and he's like you've had like eight uh plates of those I'm like I can't believe you would Rec recognize that and notice that but that's what I would notice too and be like why does that guy keep eating all those cucumbers but I probably wouldn't say anything right cuz you weren't getting enough food had you were you were eating whatever they put down I hadn't eaten all day and I did like a hard workout yesterday flew to Austin and was late for the flight and didn't get to eat so by the time we got to scratch I was like I need six of everything but so I ate a ton of cucumbers but that's what I mean he he's he's incredibly intelligent super curious about a lot of things and then we went to um Rogan's uh Club the mothership it was awesome super fun time but I've known Jo and they don't tell you who's performing or they do somebody told me that that I Mayan maybe they tell you guys but most people don't know who I mean it could what did you what did you say earlier a can of tomato soup I mean you could roll up and it's a can of tomato soup comedian and you like oh picked a bad night or you could roll up and Dave Chappelle comes out you're like I picked a good night yeah he had uh Tony Tony hitch hitch Cliffe was with him was like one of his like normal I think in the regular rotation and then there were a few guys that I hadn't heard of before I think Joe tries to give opportunities to a lot of comics he's a good dude and then uh and then we went down to the bar afterwards and they all came in it was cool but by like 12:30 1:00 they're going hard and I'm like yeah I'm a [ __ ] goodbye guys I'm going to bed I got too much stuff to do this morning yeah you did in this heat yeah every day every single day miles I did uh 12 did you run down on the trail I ran from Commodore Perry down to the river yeah every time the river yeah yeah the rivers I mean I just just being back in Austin and and I mean we' come back and forth but just being here you know basically every day and out r riding or running whatever I'm doing I'm like damn I mean it is that that trail I mean Town Lake Trail yeah is such a vibrant scene it's like and it was it's always been that way but super eclectic dude so many people like it's it's badass I love when I see a guy come racing through on like a mountain bike or a road bike all kitted out and he's like racing I'm like dude what the [ __ ] are you doing like you're going to kill somebody can you get on the road but yeah I ride on that thing I hopefully slow well I'm respectful respectful yeah there's nobody there that I ride but I I use it to get out to these side because these car I don't like being I I tell it all the say all the time I don't like riding with cars I don't trust people in cars anymore dude people looking at their cell phone you all you have to do is drive down the road and watch what other people are doing everyone's doing it yeah I've I've done this thing lately where I get I get either I get really mad because you know you're in a red light like all right then it turns green and nobody goes anywhere I'm like so like laying on the horn but then there are other times where I'm like three lanes over and I'm like I have to be all the way in the right lane yeah and I'm like somebody's going to be on their phone 100% so in one hand I'm like livid and laying on the horn the other o the other hand I'm like looking for opportunity like there he is boom just that's my hole I'm in did I tell you the story when I was riding my bike in New York City I went over the George Washington Bridge the guy almost hit me in his car you tell the story him at the light he got out tell out to beat me up yeah then the police came and da d da and I'll just remind The Listener this is also the guy cuz I reminded them before in the last time about the adopted daughter I I will now remind them of the guy who at one of the rest stops in this run around the Mongolian desert offered or did give his water to his main competitor for sure just remind I'm just just bringing people back to the to the on-site K they the accent can throw people off I live a life of service I I respond to everyone who sends me a message I try to help anyone I can even if someone ask me something crazy might just ignore them I'm like ah I don't like ignoring people I should at least tell them why I'm saying no yeah and she's like what yeah but yeah I don't uh I don't know I think I'm pretty kind I just don't want anyone to [ __ ] with me this is a good place to end dude it's been great let's not make it so long next time yeah thanks brother thank you keep it up [Music] go

Channel: WEDŪ

Views: 19,705

Keywords: The Forward, Podcast, Forward, Lance Armstrong, WEDU, Ken Rideout, Interview, Gobi March, Mongolia, Winner, Race, Over 50, Marathon, Marathoner, Jake Paul, Boxing, Teddy Atlas, The Fight with Teddy Atlas

Id: -0Z_FAXDSq0

Length: 74min 29sec (4469 seconds)

Published: Fri Oct 13 2023